Things that don't deserve their own thread

[Blackmac]

Some strange people about... why would you do this to a lady with MS growing food for those who can't afford to eat properly...

Yeah, it seems a very personal attack but that amount of salt sprinkled around really isn't going to do that much damage. If they raked off the top soil where it is sprinkled she will be fine. I believe it's a bit of a myth how damaging it is and you would need a huge amount for an area like that.

Edit. I see a local garden company have come in and done exactly that. Good on them.

[Grandpa]

Some strange people about... why would you do this to a lady with MS growing food for those who can't afford to eat properly...

Yeah, it seems a very personal attack but that amount of salt sprinkled around really isn't going to do that much damage. If they raked off the top soil where it is sprinkled she will be fine. I believe it's a bit of a myth how damaging it is and you would need a huge amount for an area like that.

Edit. I see a local garden company have come in and done exactly that. Good on them.

Plus her Gofundme page has £150k in 24 hours... though still doesn't excuse the nastiness of whoever spread the salt...

[Jock42]

My Brashers are falling apart and need replaced after 10 years, and based on the intel above, I won't be buying a new pair of Brashers. TBH I'm not sure I would have anyway, as while they were comfortable, the waterproofing stopped working 2 or 3 years ago, and I would have expected a decent pair to last more than 10 years (I bag a handful of Munros each year, but I'm probably not out more than once a month on average these days). My previous pair (can't remember the brand) lasted 20 years.

I've always had leather boots, and my default would be to do the same again, but should I consider fabric ones? Lighter, but are they as robust? Will they be as waterproof as leather ones, and will they last as long? Opinions welcome!

I've just bought a pair of leather boots, can't remember the make, for the winter doing munros. My lowas are fabric but I don't mind having wet feet, which I sometimes end up with towards theend of a tab, during the better weather.

[tabascoboy]

Some strange people about... why would you do this to a lady with MS growing food for those who can't afford to eat properly...

That is truly bizarre and despicable, not even some "generic" mindless vandalism but very specifically targeted

[Grandpa]

Some strange people about... why would you do this to a lady with MS growing food for those who can't afford to eat properly...

That is truly bizarre and despicable, not even some "generic" mindless vandalism but very specifically targeted

I wonder if it's someone with mental health issues... maybe even one of the people she was feeding who wanted more salt in their diet? I hope it's something like that, rather than vindictive.

[Ymx]

Some strange people about... why would you do this to a lady with MS growing food for those who can't afford to eat properly...

It’s absolutely appalling. I’m struggling to think why someone would do something so nasty and calculated.

My theory being on adjacent allotment owners?? To stop homeless lurking around??

Or local antagonists?? But it doesn’t strike me as something youth would do. It would require a tiny bit of pre planning. Ie buy a sack of salt.

[inactionman]

Some strange people about... why would you do this to a lady with MS growing food for those who can't afford to eat properly...

It’s absolutely appalling. I’m struggling to think why someone would do something so nasty and calculated.

My theory being on adjacent allotment owners??

Or local antagonists?? But it doesn’t strike me as something youth would do. It would require a tiny bit of pre planning. Ie buy a sack of salt.

I was brought up in that town (well, the village the town is built around) and I can confirm this is definitely something that the youth - and indeed adults - would do.

There were some genuinely lovely people, sadly counterweighted by a small number of truly, utterly dreadful people. It felt like some people had dead-end lives and had a need to drag everyone down to that level. I couldn't wait to leave.

The poor lady is one of the lovely ones sadly impacted by one/some of the dreadful.

[Blackmac]

Some strange people about... why would you do this to a lady with MS growing food for those who can't afford to eat properly...

It’s absolutely appalling. I’m struggling to think why someone would do something so nasty and calculated.

My theory being on adjacent allotment owners??

Or local antagonists?? But it doesn’t strike me as something youth would do. It would require a tiny bit of pre planning. Ie buy a sack of salt.

I was brought up in that town (well, the village the town is built around) and I can confirm this is definitely something that the youth - and indeed adults - would do.

There were some genuinely lovely people, sadly counterweighted by a small number of truly, utterly dreadful people. It felt like some people had dead-end lives and had a need to drag everyone down to that level. I couldn't wait to leave.

The poor lady is one of the lovely ones sadly impacted by one/some of the dreadful.

I can imagine jealousy would be the overriding motivation. I presume she is a bit of a local celebrity.

[S/Lt_Phillips]

Afraid I'm not sure where you can physically try them on - I got mine from sportpursuit, if you've not used it it's a website for discounted and end of line stuff (I'm a tight sod) but all of good quality. I've returned items that don't fit with no hassles, but you'll of course take a bit of a punt with boots.

I've just checked and they've a load of anatom boots in stock, including the Q2 - I'm not sure if you'll be able to see the link below without registering
https://www.sportpursuit.com/catalog/pr ... /id/752911

I am also a tight sod, and have an account with Sport Pursuit! (They are due to deliver some cycling shorts & jerseys prior to cycling holiday in Sardinia in 5 weeks.)

I would normally try boots on, so will have a trawl round Edinburgh first, but might be worth a punt ordering them online & returning. Cheers.

Have you returned stuff to Sports Pursuit before. I've heard some pretty poor things about the process.

Only the once I think, and it was very easy. Refund was processed quickly.

[S/Lt_Phillips]

My Brashers are falling apart and need replaced after 10 years, and based on the intel above, I won't be buying a new pair of Brashers. TBH I'm not sure I would have anyway, as while they were comfortable, the waterproofing stopped working 2 or 3 years ago, and I would have expected a decent pair to last more than 10 years (I bag a handful of Munros each year, but I'm probably not out more than once a month on average these days). My previous pair (can't remember the brand) lasted 20 years.

I've always had leather boots, and my default would be to do the same again, but should I consider fabric ones? Lighter, but are they as robust? Will they be as waterproof as leather ones, and will they last as long? Opinions welcome!

I've just bought a pair of leather boots, can't remember the make, for the winter doing munros. My lowas are fabric but I don't mind having wet feet, which I sometimes end up with towards theend of a tab, during the better weather.

Cheers, I'm leaning towards getting leather boots to replace the Brashers, for the rougher & wetter stuff (i.e. pretty much everything in Scotland). I have a great pair of Scarpa approach shoes for drier walking.

[inactionman]

Afraid I'm not sure where you can physically try them on - I got mine from sportpursuit, if you've not used it it's a website for discounted and end of line stuff (I'm a tight sod) but all of good quality. I've returned items that don't fit with no hassles, but you'll of course take a bit of a punt with boots.

I've just checked and they've a load of anatom boots in stock, including the Q2 - I'm not sure if you'll be able to see the link below without registering
https://www.sportpursuit.com/catalog/pr ... /id/752911

I am also a tight sod, and have an account with Sport Pursuit! (They are due to deliver some cycling shorts & jerseys prior to cycling holiday in Sardinia in 5 weeks.)

I would normally try boots on, so will have a trawl round Edinburgh first, but might be worth a punt ordering them online & returning. Cheers.

Have you returned stuff to Sports Pursuit before. I've heard some pretty poor things about the process.

I returned a pair of boots, as it happens (not the Anatom ones) - they were slightly too tight, and Sportpursuit sent out larger pair with no problems. I think they used to sometimes send straight form manufacturer, which would complicate returns, but everything I've received recently has been in sportpursuit packaging and goes back to them - I assume they don't do the straight from factory thing any more.

I've not returned anything for refund yet, so can't comment on that aspect.

Receiving and returning by post by its very nature is a bit of a nause anyway.

[Blackmac]

I am also a tight sod, and have an account with Sport Pursuit! (They are due to deliver some cycling shorts & jerseys prior to cycling holiday in Sardinia in 5 weeks.)

I would normally try boots on, so will have a trawl round Edinburgh first, but might be worth a punt ordering them online & returning. Cheers.

Have you returned stuff to Sports Pursuit before. I've heard some pretty poor things about the process.

I returned a pair of boots, as it happens (not the Anatom ones) - they were slightly too tight, and Sportpursuit sent out larger pair with no problems. I think they used to sometimes send straight form manufacturer, which would complicate returns, but everything I've received recently has been in sportpursuit packaging and goes back to them - I assume they don't do the straight from factory thing any more.

I've not returned anything for refund yet, so can't comment on that aspect.

Receiving and returning by post by its very nature is a bit of a nause anyway.

I was put off after one order. The items took 6 weeks to arrive and came straight from the far east, incurring import charges. It was still relatively cheap but a bit annoying. Having to return stuff back to the manufacturer was basically the problems I had heard about.

[Dinsdale Piranha]

My Brashers are falling apart and need replaced after 10 years, and based on the intel above, I won't be buying a new pair of Brashers. TBH I'm not sure I would have anyway, as while they were comfortable, the waterproofing stopped working 2 or 3 years ago, and I would have expected a decent pair to last more than 10 years (I bag a handful of Munros each year, but I'm probably not out more than once a month on average these days). My previous pair (can't remember the brand) lasted 20 years.

I've always had leather boots, and my default would be to do the same again, but should I consider fabric ones? Lighter, but are they as robust? Will they be as waterproof as leather ones, and will they last as long? Opinions welcome!

I've just bought a pair of leather boots, can't remember the make, for the winter doing munros. My lowas are fabric but I don't mind having wet feet, which I sometimes end up with towards theend of a tab, during the better weather.

Cheers, I'm leaning towards getting leather boots to replace the Brashers, for the rougher & wetter stuff (i.e. pretty much everything in Scotland). I have a great pair of Scarpa approach shoes for drier walking.

I bought my BiL a pair of Alt-Berg boots for his birthday some years ago as he does a fair bit of walking/hiking. He swears by them.

[Kiwias]

It almost seems as if hiking boots/shoes deserves its own thread now.

[robmatic]

I've just bought a pair of leather boots, can't remember the make, for the winter doing munros. My lowas are fabric but I don't mind having wet feet, which I sometimes end up with towards theend of a tab, during the better weather.

Cheers, I'm leaning towards getting leather boots to replace the Brashers, for the rougher & wetter stuff (i.e. pretty much everything in Scotland). I have a great pair of Scarpa approach shoes for drier walking.

I bought my BiL a pair of Alt-Berg boots for his birthday some years ago as he does a fair bit of walking/hiking. He swears by them.

I have Alt-Bergs and they are pretty good. They have a (small) factory in Yorkshire although I think most of the boots are made in Italy.

[Blackmac]

Cheers, I'm leaning towards getting leather boots to replace the Brashers, for the rougher & wetter stuff (i.e. pretty much everything in Scotland). I have a great pair of Scarpa approach shoes for drier walking.

I bought my BiL a pair of Alt-Berg boots for his birthday some years ago as he does a fair bit of walking/hiking. He swears by them.

I have Alt-Bergs and they are pretty good. They have a (small) factory in Yorkshire although I think most of the boots are made in Italy.

I bought a pair of Alt-Bergs when I joined the police. They are indestructible and they guarantee they can repair them for life. I think I would find them a bit heavy for long walks but I can assure you they are brilliant for pub fights.

[S/Lt_Phillips]

I bought my BiL a pair of Alt-Berg boots for his birthday some years ago as he does a fair bit of walking/hiking. He swears by them.

I have Alt-Bergs and they are pretty good. They have a (small) factory in Yorkshire although I think most of the boots are made in Italy.

I bought a pair of Alt-Bergs when I joined the police. They are indestructible and they guarantee they can repair them for life. I think I would find them a bit heavy for long walks but I can assure you they are brilliant for pub fights.

The bootnecks seem to favour Altbergs, I assume the pongos do too?

[Niegs]

The way some people are, I could see the salter being someone unhinged by all this 'woke' pity on the poor. "Let 'em grow their own damn food!"

Salt seems too specific a thing for an idiot random act of vandalism person to do. As some said in the thread, there must be CCTV in the area that could narrow down suspects?

[tabascoboy]

The way some people are, I could see the salter being someone unhinged by all this 'woke' pity on the poor. "Let 'em grow their own damn food!"

Salt seems too specific a thing for an idiot random act of vandalism person to do. As some said in the thread, there must be CCTV in the area that could narrow down suspects?

Seen another comment elsewhere that because she's probably on disability benefit, someone thinking if she can work this allotment then she shouldn't be getting the benefits and hence...

Sounds quite plausible.

[Insane_Homer]

Option #3, being a good Samaritan didn't get enough of the desired 15 mins of fame, so she salted it herself.

[Grandpa]

The way some people are, I could see the salter being someone unhinged by all this 'woke' pity on the poor. "Let 'em grow their own damn food!"

Salt seems too specific a thing for an idiot random act of vandalism person to do. As some said in the thread, there must be CCTV in the area that could narrow down suspects?

Seen another comment elsewhere that because she's probably on disability benefit, someone thinking if she can work this allotment then she shouldn't be getting the benefits and hence...

Sounds quite plausible.

So after all this she may end up in prison for fraud... oh the web we weave...

[Grandpa]

Yeah, it seems a very personal attack but that amount of salt sprinkled around really isn't going to do that much damage. If they raked off the top soil where it is sprinkled she will be fine. I believe it's a bit of a myth how damaging it is and you would need a huge amount for an area like that.

Edit. I see a local garden company have come in and done exactly that. Good on them.

Plus her Gofundme page has £150k in 24 hours... though still doesn't excuse the nastiness of whoever spread the salt...

Bollox!!! Someone just salted my garden and I was using it to supply nachos to poor children going to the cinema. Cough up you pricks.

It's 200k now by the way and to be honest she could just be a pain in the arse. Not like me. Cough up

You got a GofundMeYaPunks page?

[Jock42]

I have Alt-Bergs and they are pretty good. They have a (small) factory in Yorkshire although I think most of the boots are made in Italy.

I bought a pair of Alt-Bergs when I joined the police. They are indestructible and they guarantee they can repair them for life. I think I would find them a bit heavy for long walks but I can assure you they are brilliant for pub fights.

The bootnecks seem to favour Altbergs, I assume the pongos do too?

Them and Lowas generally.

[Grandpa]

Bollox!!! Someone just salted my garden and I was using it to supply nachos to poor children going to the cinema. Cough up you pricks.

It's 200k now by the way and to be honest she could just be a pain in the arse. Not like me. Cough up

You got a GofundMeYaPunks page?

Yes. Yes I do

#Cornsnacks4heroes

donated!

[SaintK]

For the sake of a cheap pint of milk!!!

Approximately 18,000 cows were killed in a blast at a Texas dairy farm earlier this week, according to local authorities.
The explosion, at South Fork Dairy near the town of Dimmitt, also left one person in critical condition.
Authorities believe that machinery in the facility may have ignited methane gas.

[Grandpa]

For the sake of a cheap pint of milk!!!

Approximately 18,000 cows were killed in a blast at a Texas dairy farm earlier this week, according to local authorities.
The explosion, at South Fork Dairy near the town of Dimmitt, also left one person in critical condition.
Authorities believe that machinery in the facility may have ignited methane gas.

Just seen that... absolutely horrific... but hey... "no loss of human life..." what a bizarre thing to say after 18.000 cows die... like they are blocks of concrete that don't feel pain...

"This is a devastating loss that will impact many," Castro County Judge Mandy Gfeller told CNN.

"While the loss of so many animals and property is devastating I am so thankful that there was no loss of human life.

[robmatic]

For the sake of a cheap pint of milk!!!

Approximately 18,000 cows were killed in a blast at a Texas dairy farm earlier this week, according to local authorities.
The explosion, at South Fork Dairy near the town of Dimmitt, also left one person in critical condition.
Authorities believe that machinery in the facility may have ignited methane gas.

The industrial scale of that operation is nuts. 18,000 cows is a lot to have in one place in terms of environmental impact and being able to pay proper attention to the animals. My folks had a few hundred dairy cows when I was growing up and I thought that was a lot.

[laurent]

For the sake of a cheap pint of milk!!!

Approximately 18,000 cows were killed in a blast at a Texas dairy farm earlier this week, according to local authorities.
The explosion, at South Fork Dairy near the town of Dimmitt, also left one person in critical condition.
Authorities believe that machinery in the facility may have ignited methane gas.

The industrial scale of that operation is nuts. 18,000 cows is a lot to have in one place in terms of environmental impact and being able to pay proper attention to the animals. My folks had a few hundred dairy cows when I was growing up and I thought that was a lot.

Completely unsustainable stuff though.

There was uproar in France when one bloke/company planned for a 1000 cow farm.
He got the planning permission for 500 and the place is a mess with animal welfare issues (what ? someone is surprised? ) ...
Not sure this operation is still going as there was a breach of planning permission with >500 cows on the premises.

[Kiwias]

Over dinner this evening, my wife and I were chatting about primary schools and various restrictions and I was wondering how it is in various other countries.

School uniforms: the primary schools I attended in Te Poi, Northcote, or Te Kopuru did not have uniforms but my grandkids' school in Hauraki requires them to wear a uniform. In Japan, most primary schools and all junior high and high schools have uniforms.

My intermediate schools in Matamata and ChCh had uniforms as did CBHS.

The bag you used to carry your class work and books: we had no restrictions or regulations at any school I attended and my grandkids also have none.
All schools in Japan have one permitted bag style.

PhysEd gear: I don't remember ever having required kit but all schools in Japan have a required shirt and pants.

Hair: in the good old days, our hair was not permitted to reach our collars or cover the ears and forehead but I understand that is far less restrictive now. In Japan, it must not reach the eyebrows , while perms or curled hair.

[Grandpa]

Over dinner this evening, my wife and I were chatting about primary schools and various restrictions and I was wondering how it is in various other countries.

School uniforms: the primary schools I attended in Te Poi, Northcote, or Te Kopuru did not have uniforms but my grandkids' school in Hauraki requires them to wear a uniform. In Japan, most primary schools and all junior high and high schools have uniforms.

My intermediate schools in Matamata and ChCh had uniforms as did CBHS.

The bag you used to carry your class work and books: we had no restrictions or regulations at any school I attended and my grandkids also have none.
All schools in Japan have one permitted bag style.

PhysEd gear: I don't remember ever having required kit but all schools in Japan have a required shirt and pants.

Hair: in the good old days, our hair was not permitted to reach our collars or cover the ears and forehead but I understand that is far less restrictive now. In Japan, it must not reach the eyebrows , while perms or curled hair.

Our school PE kit was standard kit... so everyone had the same. For the final two years of High School though we could wear what we liked as long as it was a shade of brown... the school colours. I think they should have made us wear uniform... it's a good protective mechanism. We were pretty poor so I used to wear my dad's old clothes a lot once I was old enough. But I hated wearing dad's clothes to school as some of my mates recognised stuff I wore as being my dad's... bit embarrassing. But in the end it probably toughened me up.

[Gumboot]

Hair: in the good old days, our hair was not permitted to reach our collars or cover the ears and forehead but I understand that is far less restrictive now. In Japan, it must not reach the eyebrows , while perms or curled hair.

Caps were abolished at the secondary school I went to a couple years before I started (1974). We were still required to wear ties when we left the school grounds, but hair regulations were very lax by then. Most of us had shoulder length mops, and those who could sported sideburns.

[TB63]

Ties and blazers had to be worn at all times. You were allowed to take your blazer off in a classroom. No trainers, had to be black or brown shoes. In the summer of 1976, we were permitted to go to school without a blazer!..

[Kiwias]

Ties and blazers had to be worn at all times. You were allowed to take your blazer off in a classroom. No trainers, had to be black or brown shoes. In the summer of 1976, we were permitted to go to school without a blazer!..

That pretty much sums up my high school uniform regulations, except the last bit. We had to wear blazers to school even in the summer.

[Guy Smiley]

If we could manage a tie in with hiking boots and school uniforms we could have a mega thread.

[Kiwias]

If we could manage a tie in with hiking boots and school uniforms we could have a mega thread.

Is that a round-about way of telling us that you wore hiking boots to school?

[tabascoboy]

Over dinner this evening, my wife and I were chatting about primary schools and various restrictions and I was wondering how it is in various other countries.

School uniforms: the primary schools I attended in Te Poi, Northcote, or Te Kopuru did not have uniforms but my grandkids' school in Hauraki requires them to wear a uniform. In Japan, most primary schools and all junior high and high schools have uniforms.

My intermediate schools in Matamata and ChCh had uniforms as did CBHS.

The bag you used to carry your class work and books: we had no restrictions or regulations at any school I attended and my grandkids also have none.
All schools in Japan have one permitted bag style.

PhysEd gear: I don't remember ever having required kit but all schools in Japan have a required shirt and pants.

Hair: in the good old days, our hair was not permitted to reach our collars or cover the ears and forehead but I understand that is far less restrictive now. In Japan, it must not reach the eyebrows , while perms or curled hair.

Is that the red satchel perchance, or is that only elementary/middle school?

[Monkey Magic]

My daughter just started primary this year, school shirts, trousers, shorts, sun hats for summer terms, school raincoat, school jumper.

Thankfully the school encourage the second hand trading among parents, otherwise spending $40-60 on each bit of kit that she would grow out of in 4 months would do my head in.

Glad our local school has gone for practical clothing options like polo shirts rather than more dress options

[Kiwias]

Is that the red satchel perchance, or is that only elementary/middle school?

That is the prescribed school bag for primary schools nationwide (middle and high schools each determine their own bag) and although they come in a range of colours now, black and red are by far the most common colours.

[Kiwias]

Our school PE kit was standard kit... so everyone had the same. For the final two years of High School though we could wear what we liked as long as it was a shade of brown... the school colours. I think they should have made us wear uniform... it's a good protective mechanism. We were pretty poor so I used to wear my dad's old clothes a lot once I was old enough. But I hated wearing dad's clothes to school as some of my mates recognised stuff I wore as being my dad's... bit embarrassing. But in the end it probably toughened me up.

I was so glad when I got to intermediate/high school to have uniforms because like you, we were pretty poor (Dad was a grossly underpaid methodist minister) and stood out in our hand-me-downs.

[tabascoboy]

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