2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup

[Torquemada 1420]

Need to get Marchand on now as last throw off the di.

[Torquemada 1420]

F**k off Barnes. Blatant neck tackle.

[GogLais]

Am I seeing things? I thought there was a clear neck tackle before that scrum.

[GogLais]

F**k off Barnes. Blatant neck tackle.

I'm comforted now.

[Torquemada 1420]

Only foul play is by van der Flier.

Funny how the officials find that one to review.

[Torquemada 1420]

Un f**king believable. VDF comes in with no arms there. Utter joke.

Barnes needs to f**k off into retirement.

[C69]

Gosh

[Tichtheid]

Only foul play is by van der Flier.

Funny how the officials find that one to review.

The incident was caused entirely by van der Flier, the ball was lost

[ASMO]

Jokeshop decision, Barnes utterly riding Toulouse.

[sockwithaticket]

Ignoring the Porter incident and issuing a card for that is jokeshop stuff.

[JM2K6]

This is strange. Van der Flier runs upright into a ruck, the static defending player dips his head into his chest and then uses his head to get rid of him. It is dangerous, but a) you absolutely can't run into a ruck upright and be considered an innocent party, and b) it very much did not deserve the scream, the amateur theatrics, the lying on the floor, followed by immediately getting up to remonstrate with the AR when it wasn't immediately given.

Toulouse player deserves the yellow I think, you can't do that. But all very odd.

[Tichtheid]

I think Gibson Park joined the maul in front of the ball

[JM2K6]

No HIA for VdF? He was lying prone - surely can't continue. Unless...

[ASMO]

Game is over as a spectacle now, will watch something else

[Blackmac]

That's just incredible. Entirely VDF's fault that. What was he trying to do, charging into a ruck like that.

[Torquemada 1420]

This is strange. Van der Flier runs upright into a ruck, the static defending player dips his head into his chest and then uses his head to get rid of him. It is dangerous, but a) you absolutely can't run into a ruck upright and be considered an innocent party, and b) it very much did not deserve the scream, the amateur theatrics, the lying on the floor, followed by immediately getting up to remonstrate with the AR when it wasn't immediately given.

Toulouse player deserves the yellow I think, you can't do that. But all very odd.

Neti did exactly what I or anyone else would have done initially i.e. duck to protect his head. Not sure about his lifting it after.

As for VDF going all Huget/wendyball, what an embarrassing cheat. Hopefully Fra will meet Ire later in the year and someone will sort the c**t out.

[Slick]

Only foul play is by van der Flier.

Funny how the officials find that one to review.

The incident was caused entirely by van der Flier, the ball was lost

Insane officiating. VdF has 2 goes running at a player standing still, the 2nd leading with his shoulder with no hope of winning the ball. Then the theatrics on and off the pitch.

I genuinely can barely watch Irish teams playing, the crowd, the players, the commentators are all just so awful.

[JM2K6]

This is strange. Van der Flier runs upright into a ruck, the static defending player dips his head into his chest and then uses his head to get rid of him. It is dangerous, but a) you absolutely can't run into a ruck upright and be considered an innocent party, and b) it very much did not deserve the scream, the amateur theatrics, the lying on the floor, followed by immediately getting up to remonstrate with the AR when it wasn't immediately given.

Toulouse player deserves the yellow I think, you can't do that. But all very odd.

Neti did exactly what I or anyone else would have done initially i.e. duck to protect his head. Not sure about his lifting it after.

As for VDF going all Huget/wendyball, what an embarrassing cheat. Hopefully Fra will meet Ire later in the year and someone will sort the c**t out.

Yeah I'm fine with the initial duck but he then barges forward using his head as the weapon and then up, making head contact. It's stupid and illegal. Would not argue too much if it was just a penalty.

VdF has risen from the dead here - incredible impact after being face down and motionless on the floor only a few minutes ago. Remarkable recovery.

Leinster will likely get 50 here. Best side in Europe and they absolutely do not need all the gifts they've been given today by the officials and Toulouse.

[C69]

VDF has for for that sort of shit. Disgraceful.

[salanya]

I was as surprised as anyone that the Porter tackle wasn't reviewed.
But the salty tears on here are getting a bit silly now. Torq has the excuse of being French, not sure about others.

[Blackmac]

Surely in that incident VdF initiated the contact so is essentially the tackler and was always hitting the guy too high and deliberately high.

[salanya]

VDF has for for that sort of shit. Disgraceful.

Are you originally from Tenby? You seem to be fishing, shame you have shite bait.

[JM2K6]

Anyway, for those who are adamant that red cards ruin matches, all decisions can ruin matches. Barnes not letting Toulouse have a sniff at the breakdown in the first half, plus a couple of bizarre calls, plus missing that Porter spear ruined this because a good game required both teams to be getting roughly the same rub of the green. There's not been a red but it's been hugely frustrating and the contest has badly suffered. I'm sure Leinster and their fans rightly won't give a shit but I've not particularly enjoyed watching this despite the quality of both teams.

[Stranger]

I was as surprised as anyone that the Porter tackle wasn't reviewed.
But the salty tears on here are getting a bit silly now. Torq has the excuse of being French, not sure about others.

Are you realytrying to justify VDF
there?

[Blackmac]

I was as surprised as anyone that the Porter tackle wasn't reviewed.
But the salty tears on here are getting a bit silly now. Torq has the excuse of being French, not sure about others.

I don't think it's salty tears for neutrals to comment on some really bad decisions.

[JM2K6]

Surely in that incident VdF initiated the contact so is essentially the tackler and was always hitting the guy too high and deliberately high.

French guy butted forward tbh.

[Torquemada 1420]

Yeah I'm fine with the initial duck but he then barges forward using his head as the weapon and then up, making head contact. It's stupid and illegal. Would not argue too much if it was just a penalty.

VdF has risen from the dead here - incredible impact after being face down and motionless on the floor only a few minutes ago. Remarkable recovery.

Leinster will likely get 50 here. Best side in Europe and they absolutely do not need all the gifts they've been given today by the officials and Toulouse.

3 card decisions here that are questionable
1) I can't get back to that early clear out on Willis but it was definitely a lift, off the ball and my first impression was there was shoulder to head.

2) The tip on Mallia which is right in front of Barnes.

3) The VDF farce.

On top off that, it's a blatant pen (1m in front of Barnes) for a neck tackle (quite a nasty one) on Aldegheri whereas he was happy to give a pretty soft one against Mauvaka early doors.

Now, I don't think Barnes is a cheat (unlike Brace) but he's not made any friends in the South of France after this one. Will be interested to see what Mola says after this one.

[Tichtheid]

I was as surprised as anyone that the Porter tackle wasn't reviewed.
But the salty tears on here are getting a bit silly now. Torq has the excuse of being French, not sure about others.

I don't think it's salty tears for neutrals to comment on some really bad decisions.

Thing is for me is that Leinster are a brilliant team who are capable of playing the best tactical and/or flowing rugby, depending on what is in front of them, but shite like today makes it difficult to applaud.

[Blackmac]

Surely in that incident VdF initiated the contact so is essentially the tackler and was always hitting the guy too high and deliberately high.

French guy butted forward tbh.

He was getting the head contact regardless though, not once but twice, and over reacted in an effort to protect himself. Not saying he shouldn't have got a card but VdF definitely should have followed him.

[JM2K6]

I was as surprised as anyone that the Porter tackle wasn't reviewed.
But the salty tears on here are getting a bit silly now. Torq has the excuse of being French, not sure about others.

I don't think it's salty tears for neutrals to comment on some really bad decisions.

Thing is for me is that Leinster are a brilliant team who are capable of playing the best tactical and/or flowing rugby, depending on what is in front of them, but shite like today makes it difficult to applaud.

They've also been so good for so long that it counts against them for some. I used to love watching them but there's certainly a bit of fatigue at watching them outclass teams and I'm not going to sit here and post about how good they are all the time, it's kinda taken as read. What I'd much rather do at this stage is watch them in a proper contest.

For me it's a huge shame that Toulouse suffered the early injury that has badly damaged them, and an even bigger shame that the decisions swung so heavily in the direction of the team already likely to outclass their opposition.

[JM2K6]

Surely in that incident VdF initiated the contact so is essentially the tackler and was always hitting the guy too high and deliberately high.

French guy butted forward tbh.

He was getting the head contact regardless though, not once but twice, and over reacted in an effort to protect himself. Not saying he shouldn't have got a card but VdF definitely should have followed him.

Yeah I get that. And the combo of VdF's reckless initiation plus the dramatics should've been punished.

[Blackmac]

I was as surprised as anyone that the Porter tackle wasn't reviewed.
But the salty tears on here are getting a bit silly now. Torq has the excuse of being French, not sure about others.

I don't think it's salty tears for neutrals to comment on some really bad decisions.

Thing is for me is that Leinster are a brilliant team who are capable of playing the best tactical and/or flowing rugby, depending on what is in front of them, but shite like today makes it difficult to applaud.

That's how I feel. Went into the game rooting for them but then you start wishing them ill because of all the shite that comes with them. Barnes performance is not their fault but it does sour the outcome.

[Torquemada 1420]

On top off Barnes, Mola really killed his own chances with his selection here. Utter insanity to move the world's best player away from his position and your country's FH too to accommodate a dreadful SH like Graou (when Retire can play SH or wing anyway).

Lebel is a poor man's Thomas. Blistering in open space but somehow only has half that speed if he has to chase and defend and no kicking game. Also does nothing else around the park unlike, say Villiere.

Willis has possibly had his best game to ST and with a half decent ref would have seem reward for all his efforts.

[Sandstorm]

VDF is a klarse player and usually a good egg, but today’s theatrics are a disgrace.

[JM2K6]

Congrats Leinster. La Rochelle's sheer bulk could present some problems in the final maybe, but Exeter wouldn't be a difficult match.

[Blackmac]

VDF is a klarse player and usually a good egg, but today’s theatrics are a disgrace.

He always reminds me of a Warlord comic hero. Not sure if it's Union Jack Jackson or Lord Peter Flint.

[Torquemada 1420]

For me it's a huge shame that Toulouse suffered the early injury that has badly damaged them,

Yeah, but as per earlier post, that was self inflicted. You go 6-2, you'd better have the right cover on the bench.

[CM11]

What idiot decided one injury in the outside backs meant Dupont had to move?

[JM2K6]

For me it's a huge shame that Toulouse suffered the early injury that has badly damaged them,

Yeah, but as per earlier post, that was self inflicted. You go 6-2, you'd better have the right cover on the bench.

Yeah, going by what you've said even the decision to bring him on was mad. Surely you'd want to keep Dupont in such a crucial role at all costs.

[OomStruisbaai]

Leinster had to much class.