Another mass shooting in the US

[tabascoboy]

Again not a mass shooting but..."this is America!"

Two Texas cheerleaders shot after one gets into wrong car

Two high school cheerleaders were shot after one of them apparently approached the wrong vehicle in a car park near Austin, Texas. One of the athletes, Payton Washington, 18, remains in hospital in a critical condition, according to family. The other victim was treated at the scene.

Their cheer company called the shooting at 00:15 local time (05:15 GMT) on Tuesday "horrific".

Police charged Pedro Tello Rodriguez Jr, 25, with "deadly conduct". The shooting happened outside a supermarket in Elgin, about 25 miles from Austin.

Elgin police said: "Information suggests that an altercation occurred in the parking lot, and multiple shots were fired into a vehicle."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65330696

[tabascoboy]

FFS what next?

6-year-old girl, parents shot after basketball rolls into man’s North Carolina yard

A North Carolina 6-year-old and her parents were shot Tuesday night by an angry neighbor who fired at them after a basketball rolled into his yard, a report said.

Kinsley White was wounded along with her mother Ashley Hilderbrand and father William White when a gunman opened fire at around 8 p.m. in Gaston County after he became enraged about the bouncing ball, according to WSOC-TV.

White was critically injured attempting to protect his daughter.

Neighbors told the station a group of kids was playing basketball when the ball bounced into the alleged gunman’s yard.

Suspected shooter Robert Louis Singletary grew angry and ran down the street as he fired at a neighbor, they reportedly said.

Then he came back and began shooting at the family, including the young daughter who needed stitches on her face from bullet fragments, WSOC-TV reported.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/6-year-ol ... lina-yard/

[weegie01]

At what point do people become fearful of visiting the US?

I'm not there yet tbf, still have plenty of family and friends there, and need to go twice a year with work. But I do get that uneasy feeling sometimes walking through a shopping mall, thinking is today the day that Michael Douglas from Falling Down is going to be standing behind me in a queue for some food . . . .

US friends of ours were over recently. They live just outside Chicago, and say their lives are now more constrained. They don't do things they used to, and when they do are on their guard.

It is the randomness that scares them. People are dying doing normal, everyday things. They can scarcely believe they have seriously discussed moving to Europe.

[Chilli]

FFS what next?

6-year-old girl, parents shot after basketball rolls into man’s North Carolina yard

A North Carolina 6-year-old and her parents were shot Tuesday night by an angry neighbor who fired at them after a basketball rolled into his yard, a report said.

Kinsley White was wounded along with her mother Ashley Hilderbrand and father William White when a gunman opened fire at around 8 p.m. in Gaston County after he became enraged about the bouncing ball, according to WSOC-TV.

White was critically injured attempting to protect his daughter.

Neighbors told the station a group of kids was playing basketball when the ball bounced into the alleged gunman’s yard.

Suspected shooter Robert Louis Singletary grew angry and ran down the street as he fired at a neighbor, they reportedly said.

Then he came back and began shooting at the family, including the young daughter who needed stitches on her face from bullet fragments, WSOC-TV reported.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/6-year-ol ... lina-yard/

If that 6 year old was packing..................

America is properly fucked up.

[Kiwias]

FFS what next?

6-year-old girl, parents shot after basketball rolls into man’s North Carolina yard

A North Carolina 6-year-old and her parents were shot Tuesday night by an angry neighbor who fired at them after a basketball rolled into his yard, a report said.

Kinsley White was wounded along with her mother Ashley Hilderbrand and father William White when a gunman opened fire at around 8 p.m. in Gaston County after he became enraged about the bouncing ball, according to WSOC-TV.

White was critically injured attempting to protect his daughter.

Neighbors told the station a group of kids was playing basketball when the ball bounced into the alleged gunman’s yard.

Suspected shooter Robert Louis Singletary grew angry and ran down the street as he fired at a neighbor, they reportedly said.

Then he came back and began shooting at the family, including the young daughter who needed stitches on her face from bullet fragments, WSOC-TV reported.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/6-year-ol ... lina-yard/

If that 6 year old was packing..................

America is properly fucked up.

That batshit governor of some redneck state (Noem of South Dakota) boasted that her soon-to-be two year old granddaughter has a shotgun and a rifle.

[Chilli]

FFS what next?

If that 6 year old was packing..................

America is properly fucked up.

That batshit governor of some redneck state (Noem of South Dakota) boasted that her soon-to-be two year old granddaughter has a shotgun and a rifle.

Merica, Fuck Yeah!

[sockwithaticket]

Thankfully not an actual shooting, but yet another example of how broken the relationship between many Americans and their firearms is.



Such an astonishingly stupid thing to go to prison for.

[Sandstorm]

FFS what next?

6-year-old girl, parents shot after basketball rolls into man’s North Carolina yard

A North Carolina 6-year-old and her parents were shot Tuesday night by an angry neighbor who fired at them after a basketball rolled into his yard, a report said.

Kinsley White was wounded along with her mother Ashley Hilderbrand and father William White when a gunman opened fire at around 8 p.m. in Gaston County after he became enraged about the bouncing ball, according to WSOC-TV.

White was critically injured attempting to protect his daughter.

Neighbors told the station a group of kids was playing basketball when the ball bounced into the alleged gunman’s yard.

Suspected shooter Robert Louis Singletary grew angry and ran down the street as he fired at a neighbor, they reportedly said.

Then he came back and began shooting at the family, including the young daughter who needed stitches on her face from bullet fragments, WSOC-TV reported.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/6-year-ol ... lina-yard/

If my neighbours put up a hoop in the driveway, I’d start shooting too. “Bounce-bounce-bounce-bounce……”

[Niegs]

Thankfully not an actual shooting, but yet another example of how broken the relationship between many Americans and their firearms is.



Such an astonishingly stupid thing to go to prison for.

Things haven't been the same for him since he lost the ability to mail-order Trump Steaks.

[tabascoboy]

5 dead in Texas 'execution-style' shooting, suspect armed with AR-15 is on the loose

Five people are dead after being shot in a Texas home by a suspect armed with an AR-15 style rifle in a horrific series of "execution style" shootings, police said.

A manhunt is currently underway for the suspect, identified by the San Jacinto County Sheriff's Office as 38-year-old Francisco Oropeza. The FBI's Houston Field Office said it is assisting in the ongoing search.

A judge has issued an arrest warrant for Oropeza and assigned a $5 million bond. He is believed to have fled the county and is considered armed and dangerous, authorities said.

[https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/5-dead-te ... d=98957271

No fucken shit...

[Blackmac]

I'll see your shot at the front door going to the wrong house and raise you with being shot after turning into the wrong driveway, despite not getting out of the car and already heading out of the driveway on realising the mistake.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65307556

Just needed a good guy with a gun in the car, didn’t they?

What a fucking ridiculous country.

Should have been driving this

Have you see the lawyers comments in that article. Unbelievable bloody country

[Kiwias]

If your neighbour is in the habit of shooting an AR-15 in his backyard until very late at night and your kids can't get to sleep, DO NOT ASK HIM TO STOP!!

https://apnews.com/article/mass-shootin ... edthetitle

[sockwithaticket]

Also in Texas a guy got duped into paying $40 for his car and his date's car at a place that doesn't have valet service, so he walked out and shot the scammer.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/te ... r-AA1awezT

Throwing your life and someone else's away over £40. Can't comprehend it.

[Kiwias]

Also in Texas a guy got duped into paying $40 for his car and his date's car at a place that doesn't have valet service, so he walked out and shot the scammer.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/te ... r-AA1awezT

Throwing your life and someone else's away over £40. Can't comprehend it.

The article does clarify the most important part of the story: did he get a chance to have his dinner or was he arrested before he and his girlfriend could eat?

[Niegs]

Also in Texas a guy got duped into paying $40 for his car and his date's car at a place that doesn't have valet service, so he walked out and shot the scammer.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/te ... r-AA1awezT

Throwing your life and someone else's away over £40. Can't comprehend it.

The article does clarify the most important part of the story: did he get a chance to have his dinner or was he arrested before he and his girlfriend could eat?

I recall reading that she reported him a day or two later, so yes? Maybe some post-date nookie, too?

Aguirre's date contacted police two days later after police had released photos of the couple, who had been identified by tips to Crime Stoppers.

"She wanted to do the right thing. She wanted to make sure that she came forward and told the police what she knew," Rick DeToto, the woman's attorney told KPRC.

[Hugo]

Saw a very interesting pair of statistics the other day -

1. The US supplies about 40% of the worlds arms,
https://www.thenation.com/article/world ... ns-market/

2. The US has about 40% of the worlds civilian owned firearms.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newswe ... 73%3famp=1

My takeaway - those numbers are too similar to be coincidental.
The extent to which the military industrial complex is tied into the gun culture cannot be overlooked.

[troglodiet]

FFS what next?

6-year-old girl, parents shot after basketball rolls into man’s North Carolina yard

A North Carolina 6-year-old and her parents were shot Tuesday night by an angry neighbor who fired at them after a basketball rolled into his yard, a report said.

Kinsley White was wounded along with her mother Ashley Hilderbrand and father William White when a gunman opened fire at around 8 p.m. in Gaston County after he became enraged about the bouncing ball, according to WSOC-TV.

White was critically injured attempting to protect his daughter.

Neighbors told the station a group of kids was playing basketball when the ball bounced into the alleged gunman’s yard.

Suspected shooter Robert Louis Singletary grew angry and ran down the street as he fired at a neighbor, they reportedly said.

Then he came back and began shooting at the family, including the young daughter who needed stitches on her face from bullet fragments, WSOC-TV reported.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/6-year-ol ... lina-yard/

To be fair, it might not have been just a normal firearm incident; perhaps a racism element too.

[bogbunny]

FFS what next?

6-year-old girl, parents shot after basketball rolls into man’s North Carolina yard

A North Carolina 6-year-old and her parents were shot Tuesday night by an angry neighbor who fired at them after a basketball rolled into his yard, a report said.

Kinsley White was wounded along with her mother Ashley Hilderbrand and father William White when a gunman opened fire at around 8 p.m. in Gaston County after he became enraged about the bouncing ball, according to WSOC-TV.

White was critically injured attempting to protect his daughter.

Neighbors told the station a group of kids was playing basketball when the ball bounced into the alleged gunman’s yard.

Suspected shooter Robert Louis Singletary grew angry and ran down the street as he fired at a neighbor, they reportedly said.

Then he came back and began shooting at the family, including the young daughter who needed stitches on her face from bullet fragments, WSOC-TV reported.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/6-year-ol ... lina-yard/

To be fair, it might not have been just a normal firearm incident; perhaps a racism element too.

White men can't jump?

[Hugo]

FFS what next?

To be fair, it might not have been just a normal firearm incident; perhaps a racism element too.

White men can't jump?

Speaking of which - they are remaking that film - or have done so. Its a shame because the original was a classic, or at least good enough to not be disrespected with a pointless cover version.

[Hal Jordan]

If your neighbour is in the habit of shooting an AR-15 in his backyard until very late at night and your kids can't get to sleep, DO NOT ASK HIM TO STOP!!

https://apnews.com/article/mass-shootin ... edthetitle

It's OK, Governor Abbott has offered a reward for anyone who offers info to catch the killer of these "illegal immigrants". The GOP. Cunts, all of them.

[dpedin]

I suspect this is going to end up as the longest thread on this site!

[Sinkers]

Just needed a good guy with a gun in the car, didn’t they?

What a fucking ridiculous country.

Should have been driving this

Have you see the lawyers comments in that article. Unbelievable bloody country

This one does look a little different to me: I’d imagine deer slugs and a shot gun is a perfectly reasonable and very common combination to have in your home out in the sticks and one that I wouldnt expect to be restricted under any future gun laws.
But the sheer paranoia that makes you use that combination to start shooting at any car that happened to turn into your driveway is the bit that I just can’t imagine.

[troglodiet]

FFS what next?

To be fair, it might not have been just a normal firearm incident; perhaps a racism element too.

White men can't jump?

Also gives new meaning to "he shoots, he scores!!!".

[fishfoodie]

Pond scum Abbott couldn't resist othering the victims

[laurent]

cuntry of arseholes...

[Jim Lahey]

Shooting in school in Serbia by a boy, 9 dead.

May as well highlight it here. The NRA and gun lobby will be all over this when they wake up. The kuntz.

[tabascoboy]

Shooting in school in Serbia by a boy, 9 dead.

May as well highlight it here. The NRA and gun lobby will be all over this when they wake up. The kuntz.

Another one also this week. Imagine what would happen if a POTUS declared this...

Serbia will be “disarmed”, its president, Aleksandar Vučić, has pledged in an address to the nation, after eight people were killed and 14 wounded in a second mass shooting in the Balkans country in as many days.

Thursday night’s drive-by assault by a 21-year-old with an automatic weapon had followed the death of nine people at the hands of a 13-year-old who opened fire in a school in downtown Belgrade on Wednesday.

Vučić described the 48 hours of bloodshed as an “attack on our entire country” as he announced that registered and illegal arms would be seized in what he said would amount to “an almost complete disarming of Serbia”.

Mass shootings are rare in Serbia but there is a high level of gun ownership. There are more than 760,000 registered firearms in the country of roughly 6.8 million people and many more are held unofficially. A large number of weapons entered the black market after the wars in the Balkans that followed the breakup of Yugoslavia.

[tabascoboy]

Sigh

Texas shooting: Eight killed by gunman in Allen mall

A gunman has shot and killed eight people shopping at a mall north of Dallas, Texas, emergency services say.

Hundreds of people were evacuated from the mall in the city of Allen, as eyewitnesses described a man firing indiscriminately at passers-by.

Police said they shot the gunman dead and believe he acted alone.

Some of the victims are reported to be children. At least seven people are being treated in hospital, three of whom are critically ill.

Allen Fire Chief Jonathan Boyd said seven people - including the gunman - were pronounced dead at the scene and two died later in hospital.

A police officer "heard gunshots, went to the gunshots, engaged the suspect and neutralised the suspect", Allen Police Chief Brian Harvey said.

The victims' ages range from 5 to 51, according to a hospital spokesperson.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65515915

[dpedin]

I know I am now stating the bleeding obvious but the US is now a toxic mess - Trump, right wing loons, QAnon, drugs inc fentanyl, ongoing racial tensions, Fox News, dodgy police forces, etc and guns, lots of guns freely available for anyone and openly carried in normal life. It is descending into a mass shooting nirvana where anyone with a grudge and high/mentally ill or just plain nasty resorts to a gun to settle their issues. Private homes, schools, shopping malls, car parks - nowhere is really safe. What used to be contained within dodgy low rent neighbourhoods is now seen anywhere and everywhere in the good old USofA. The American Dream isn't what they think it is and it is getting worse.

It makes me feel really sad as I loved going to America on golfing holidays but, as I have said before, after our last trip when the local Walmart in a posh area of SC was held up by drugged up twats armed to the gunnels literally 10mins after we had been there we won't be going back.

[Jim Lahey]

I know I am now stating the bleeding obvious but the US is now a toxic mess - Trump, right wing loons, QAnon, drugs inc fentanyl, ongoing racial tensions, Fox News, dodgy police forces, etc and guns, lots of guns freely available for anyone and openly carried in normal life. It is descending into a mass shooting nirvana where anyone with a grudge and high/mentally ill or just plain nasty resorts to a gun to settle their issues. Private homes, schools, shopping malls, car parks - nowhere is really safe. What used to be contained within dodgy low rent neighbourhoods is now seen anywhere and everywhere in the good old USofA. The American Dream isn't what they think it is and it is getting worse.

It makes me feel really sad as I loved going to America on golfing holidays but, as I have said before, after our last trip when the local Walmart in a posh area of SC was held up by drugged up twats armed to the gunnels literally 10mins after we had been there we won't be going back.

I think I asked on this thread a few pages back when will people stop visiting the US as a result of this madness. Talked with the missus (US citizen with lots of family still there) this morning and we've decided to give it a miss for the foreseeable future.

Obviously the chances of getting caught up in one is miniscule, but the general edgy atmosphere we've felt there on our last few trips hasn't been pleasant, especially with 3 kids in tow. Best to stick to Western Europe or even her native South America

[Calculon]

Mate of mine is a teacher at a high school in san antonio texas. two shooter lock downs at is school in the past three months. first one a shoot out spilled onto campus, second one, one of the students dropped his gun so the police was called

[robmatic]

I know I am now stating the bleeding obvious but the US is now a toxic mess - Trump, right wing loons, QAnon, drugs inc fentanyl, ongoing racial tensions, Fox News, dodgy police forces, etc and guns, lots of guns freely available for anyone and openly carried in normal life. It is descending into a mass shooting nirvana where anyone with a grudge and high/mentally ill or just plain nasty resorts to a gun to settle their issues. Private homes, schools, shopping malls, car parks - nowhere is really safe. What used to be contained within dodgy low rent neighbourhoods is now seen anywhere and everywhere in the good old USofA. The American Dream isn't what they think it is and it is getting worse.

It makes me feel really sad as I loved going to America on golfing holidays but, as I have said before, after our last trip when the local Walmart in a posh area of SC was held up by drugged up twats armed to the gunnels literally 10mins after we had been there we won't be going back.

I think I asked on this thread a few pages back when will people stop visiting the US as a result of this madness. Talked with the missus (US citizen with lots of family still there) this morning and we've decided to give it a miss for the foreseeable future.

Obviously the chances of getting caught up in one is miniscule, but the general edgy atmosphere we've felt there on our last few trips hasn't been pleasant, especially with 3 kids in tow. Best to stick to Western Europe or even her native South America

I doubt I'll be going for the foreseeable future anyway due to having a small child and no money but went to the US a few times when my wife's family lived in NYC and yeah, it's not just the risk of the shootings, there's police everywhere and I never found that particularly reassuring.

[Biffer]

US male life expectancy is five years lower than for other developed countries. And it’s because of firearms, opiates and road accidents. And those in turn disproportionately affect the young. If you survive to thirty five or forty, your life expectancy rises up in line with other developed countries.

https://www.ft.com/content/653bbb26-8a2 ... 4a0b774303

One in 25 American five year olds does not make it to their 40th birthday.

[dpedin]

I know I am now stating the bleeding obvious but the US is now a toxic mess - Trump, right wing loons, QAnon, drugs inc fentanyl, ongoing racial tensions, Fox News, dodgy police forces, etc and guns, lots of guns freely available for anyone and openly carried in normal life. It is descending into a mass shooting nirvana where anyone with a grudge and high/mentally ill or just plain nasty resorts to a gun to settle their issues. Private homes, schools, shopping malls, car parks - nowhere is really safe. What used to be contained within dodgy low rent neighbourhoods is now seen anywhere and everywhere in the good old USofA. The American Dream isn't what they think it is and it is getting worse.

It makes me feel really sad as I loved going to America on golfing holidays but, as I have said before, after our last trip when the local Walmart in a posh area of SC was held up by drugged up twats armed to the gunnels literally 10mins after we had been there we won't be going back.

I think I asked on this thread a few pages back when will people stop visiting the US as a result of this madness. Talked with the missus (US citizen with lots of family still there) this morning and we've decided to give it a miss for the foreseeable future.

Obviously the chances of getting caught up in one is miniscule, but the general edgy atmosphere we've felt there on our last few trips hasn't been pleasant, especially with 3 kids in tow. Best to stick to Western Europe or even her native South America

I doubt I'll be going for the foreseeable future anyway due to having a small child and no money but went to the US a few times when my wife's family lived in NYC and yeah, it's not just the risk of the shootings, there's police everywhere and I never found that particularly reassuring.

We loved going to the local bars and having a laugh with the locals, had some great times in the past. However last couple of trips and with SC being a very Trumpy state we just felt the atmosphere change. We had to ignore lot of dumb things said to us about Trump, MAGA, guns, religion, etc to avoid getting into arguments. We had a rule of no politics, no religion and no arguments - just smile and buy everyone a cheap gnats piss beer to avoid any problems. The thing is you never know now if someone who has had a few beers and gets pissed off with something you say is going to go and get their gun to settle their argument. We ended up on last trip having cocktails on the veranda of our house watching the sun go down instead of going out to bars or clubs. Lot safer and cheaper too.

[fishfoodie]

Just for variety, todays Texan mass murdered decided to drive a Range Rover thru a bus queue of hispanic people; seven dead, & multiple critical

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65521233

[Gumboot]

That's it isn't it. Why would you being kids there now. Disney has become some sort of lightening rod for stupid MAGA bollox so fucked if I would go there.

We're going there in a few weeks.

Gulp!

[fishfoodie]

That's it isn't it. Why would you being kids there now. Disney has become some sort of lightening rod for stupid MAGA bollox so fucked if I would go there.

We're going there in a few weeks.

Gulp!

They have a new, "Must Have", gift for kids, you can pick up over there.

... school back packs made with kevlar !

I don't know if they have the pockets for ballistic plates too, but if they do, it'll help build your 5 year olds core strength hauling all that around as well as a full load of school books

[Gumboot]

No young kids in tow, thankfully. Just old ones.

[Guy Smiley]

No young kids in tow, thankfully. Just old ones.

You'll be right, just don't go bouncing any basketballs near private driveways.

(a little envious, I've never visited the 'States)

[Enzedder]

No young kids in tow, thankfully. Just old ones.

You're game - more balls than brains I reckon. I wouldn't go onto Whakaari with a level 2 warning.

This is the USA travel warning level

Level 2 Exercise Increased Caution