Another mass shooting in the US

[Torquemada 1420]

I don't even know why this is even news any more. "Mass shooting" is defined as one with 4 or more fatalities. Always wondered why 4 instead of 3 or 5 but the real scary figure is 99% of gun related deaths are not mass shootings. Mental numbers for a mental country.

[Kiwias]

That's it isn't it. Why would you being kids there now. Disney has become some sort of lightening rod for stupid MAGA bollox so fucked if I would go there.

We're going there in a few weeks.

Gulp!

They have a new, "Must Have", gift for kids, you can pick up over there.

... school back packs made with kevlar !

I don't know if they have the pockets for ballistic plates too, but if they do, it'll help build your 5 year olds core strength hauling all that around as well as a full load of school books

No backpacks in this school district in Flint, Michigan.

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/04/11739186 ... n%20Monday.

[Ymx]

The culture wars in the states is just a mess.

[dpedin]

The culture wars in the states is just a mess.

They are doomed I tell you, doomed!

[Jim Lahey]

Time to burn the place down and start again I reckon.

[TB63]

Nope, not a fucked up country at all...

[fishfoodie]

The Army knew he was a nutter after a few weeks, but Greg Abbott wants to talk about, "Mental Health"

Gunman was removed from US military training

Mauricio Garcia, the 33-year-old Texas man who killed eight people and injured seven after opening fire at a mall in Allen, Texas was removed from US Army training in 2008 due according to Heather J Hagan, US Army Public Affairs Spokeswoman.

In a statement provided to The Independent, Ms Hagan said, “Mauricio Garcia entered the regular Army in June 2008; he was terminated three months later without completing initial entry training. He was not awarded a military occupational specialty. He had no deployments or awards.”

She added that the Army does “not provide characterization of discharge for any soldier.”

However, an Army Official indicated that Garcia’s termination from training was under, “Other designated physical or mental conditions.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 34654.html

[TB63]

[Kiwias]

I just re-read the brilliant and searing article by Pete Hamill after he was close at hand when Robert Kennedy was assassinated in 1968

That kid and the bitter Kennedy haters were the same. All those people in New York who hated Kennedy’s guts, who said “eccch” when his name was mentioned, the ones who creamed over Murray Kempton’s vicious diatribes these past few months: they were the same. When Evers died, when King died, when Jack Kennedy died, all the bland pundits said that some good would come of it in some way, that the nation would go through a catharsis, that somehow the bitterness, the hatred, the bigotry, the evil of racism, the glib violence would be erased. That was bullshit. We will have our four-day televised orgy of remorse about Robert Kennedy and then it will be business as usual.

You could feel that as we drove through the empty L.A. streets, listening to the sirens screaming in the night. Nothing would change. Kennedy’s death would mean nothing. It was just another digit in the great historical pageant that includes the slaughter of Indians, the plundering of Mexico, the enslavement of black people, the humiliation of Puerto Ricans. Just another digit. Nothing would come of it. While Kennedy’s life was ebbing out of him, Americans were dropping bombs and flaming jelly on Orientals. While the cops fingerprinted the gunmen, Senator Eastland’s Negro subjects were starving. While the cops made chalk marks on the floor of the pantry, the brave members of the National Rifle Association were already explaining that people commit crimes, guns don’t (as if Willie Mays could hit a homerun without a bat). These cowardly bums claim Constitutional rights to kill fierce deer in the forests, and besides, suppose the niggers come to the house and we don’t have anything to shoot them with? Suppose we have to fight a nigger man-to-man?

America the Beautiful: with crumby little mini-John Waynes carrying guns to the woods like surrogate penises. Yes: the kid I saw shoot Kennedy was from Jordan, was diseased with some fierce hatred for Jews. Sam Yorty, who hated Kennedy, now calls Kennedy a great American and blames the Communists. Hey Sam: you killed him too. The gun that kid carried was American. The city where he shot down a good man was run by Sam Yorty. How about keeping your fat pigstink mouth shut.

https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/ot ... -f-kennedy

[tabascoboy]

After the two mass shootings recently in Serbia, meanwhile approaching 200 incidents in the US so far this year (!) life goes on as normal...

[sockwithaticket]

I don't know if it's simply that the media are reporting them rather than there being an actual uptick in numbers, but so many more incidents like this are starting to pop up:



What/who are these people so scared of that they need to blast away at anyone who puts a toe over ther property line? I cannot imagine living my life like that.

[Raggs]

I don't know if it's simply that the media are reporting them rather than there being an actual uptick in numbers, but so many more incidents like this are starting to pop up:



What/who are these people so scared of that they need to blast away at anyone who puts a toe over ther property line? I cannot imagine living my life like that.

There's plenty of mental health issues that can lead to someone being so fearful. It's just in normal countries, they either cower behind their doors or scream and shout (all whilst hopefully also receiving some sort of treatment). In the USA, they have free access to firearms, so just start shooting.

[TB63]

If he'd taken careful aim, she'd have won the game...

[Niegs]

Everytime I see a nightly news feed from there, it’s stories of crime. ‘If it bleeds, it leads.’ Someone with mental health issues and access to weapons gets into a bubble of crime stories and paranoid social media groups…

[inactionman]

An article about the Rubio family, who lost a daughter in the Uvalde shootings.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-polit ... n-control/

An advance warning - there are a fair few lump-in-throat moments and you'll end up wanting to show Ted Cruz first-hand what a round fired from an AR-15 feels like.

[tabascoboy]

Doesn't quite qualify as a mass shooting but....

3-year-old shot and injured 2 people in Indiana, including man wanted for murder, police say

A 3-year-old child shot and injured two people in Indiana on Thursday evening, which led to the arrest of a man wanted for murder in Illinois, law enforcement told CNN.

The child got access to a gun and fired one round, striking two people at an apartment in Lafayette, Lafayette Police Department Lt. Justin Hartman told CNN.

Officers responded to a local hospital where the two victims were being treated for non-life-threatening injuries after the shooting, Hartman said. One of the victims is the child’s mother, he added. Police did not say how the child was able to access the gun or what type of weapon was used.

The second shooting victim, identified as 23-year-old Trayshaun Smith, was a friend of the child’s mother who was visiting the apartment, Hartman said. Smith, a resident of Lafayette, was then arrested on an active murder warrant issued out of Cook County, Illinois, the lieutenant said.

CNN has not been able to reach Smith and has been unable able to determine if he has legal representation.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/20/us/i ... index.html

[Raggs]

All it takes is a good toddler with a gun! Arm all toddlers!!

[Chilli]

All it takes is a good toddler with a gun! Arm all toddlers!!

The NRA have been right all along.

[tabascoboy]

Again not a mass shooting but another one for the America is Fucked Up file

11-year-old Mississippi boy who was shot by responding police officer after calling 911 is released from the hospital


An 11-year-old Mississippi boy who was shot by a police officer after he called 911 for help is recovering after being released from the hospital, according to his family.

The family is calling for the officer to be fired and charged with the shooting.

Aderrien Murry was shot in the chest by an Indianola Police Department officer early Saturday morning while the officer was responding to a domestic disturbance call at the child’s home, according to his mother, Nakala Murry, and the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation.

Murry told CNN that the father of another of her children arrived at her home at 4 a.m., “irate.”

Concerned about her safety, Murry asked Aderrien to call the police.

Murry said the officer who arrived at the home “had his gun drawn at the front door and asked those inside the home to come outside.” Murry said her son was shot coming around the corner of a hallway, into the living room.

“Once he came from around the corner, he got shot,” Murry said. “I cannot grasp why. The same cop that told him to come out of the house. (Aderrien) did, and he got shot. He kept asking, ‘Why did he shoot me? What did I do wrong?’” she said.

The shooting happened within what felt like “one to two minutes” after the officer asked those in the house to come outside, Murry said.

The boy was given a chest tube and placed on a ventilator at the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson after developing a collapsed lung, fractured ribs and a lacerated liver because of the shooting, his mother said. He was released from the hospital Wednesday. CNN has reached out to the hospital.

Two other children, including Murry’s daughter and 2-year-old nephew, were also in the home at the time of the shooting, she said.

Body camera footage has not been released
Murry’s family attorney Carlos Moore told CNN the incident was captured on police body camera.

The attorney said his request for the body camera footage was denied due to “an ongoing investigation.”

The body camera video of the incident has not been released publicly.

Moore also said he was told there is video of the incident from a nearby gas station.

The Indianola Police Department confirmed that the officer involved in the shooting is named Greg Capers but did not provide any additional details on the shooting, telling CNN the police chief was unavailable.

CNN reached out to Capers for comment but did not immediately hear back.

On Monday evening, the Indianola Board of Aldermen voted to place Capers on paid administrative leave while the shooting is investigated, according to the family attorney.

In a statement over the weekend, the MBI said the agency is “currently assessing this critical incident and gathering evidence” and would turn over its findings to the state attorney general’s office after the investigation is complete.

On Wednesday, MBI spokesperson Bailey Martin declined to answer additional questions, telling CNN in an email, “Due to this being an open and ongoing investigation, no further comment will be made.”

CNN has contacted the District Attorney’s Office for the Fourth Circuit Court and the Mississippi Attorney General’s Office for comment.

Family angry police officer remains employed by department
Murry said that after her son was shot, she placed her hand on his wound to apply pressure as he “sang gospel songs and prayed while bleeding out.” The officer, she said, tried to help render first aid and placed his hand on top of hers to try to stop Aderrien’s bleeding.

When an ambulance arrived, medics were “very attentive,” she said.

“Aderrien came within an inch of losing his life,” Moore said. “It’s not OK for a cop to do this and get away with this. The mother asked Aderrien to call the police on her daughter’s father. He walked out of his room as directed by the police and he got shot.”

Murry said police told her that her daughter’s father was taken into custody later in the day on Saturday but eventually released because she had not filed a police report against him.

“When was I going to have time to do that? I was in the hospital with my son,” she said, reacting to the news of the man’s release from custody.

Four days after the shooting, Murry told CNN that “no one came to the hospital from the police station” nor had she spoken to any police investigators about the shooting.

“I’m just happy my son is alive,” she said through tears.

Moore told CNN that he is furious that Capers remains employed by the Indianola Police Department.

“We believe that the city and the officer should be liable to Aderrien Murray, for the damages they have caused,” the attorney said.

Moore said they will hold a sit-in protest at the Indianola City Hall on Thursday morning.

Indianola is a small, mostly African American town with 31% of the population below the poverty line. It lies in the Mississippi Delta, about 100 miles north of Jackson.

[tabascoboy]

30 people shot, 2 fatally, at site of Baltimore block party

Thirty people were injured, two fatally, during an overnight shooting in southern Baltimore, police said Sunday.

The shooting occurred around 12:35 a.m., acting Baltimore police commissioner Richard Worley said during a news conference. There was a block party underway at the address, he said.

Officers received calls about a shooting at 800 Gretna Court in the Brooklyn neighborhood and arrived to find “multiple victims” with gunshot wounds, Worley said.

An 18-year-old woman was pronounced dead at the scene, and a 20-year-old man was pronounced dead at a hospital “a short time later,” according to the Baltimore Police Department.

Twenty-eight other victims were taken to or walked into hospitals, police said, adding that three victims were in critical condition early Sunday.

Police are looking for those responsible and their motive, Worley said. Detectives “are going to be here quite a while,” he said, to comb through what he called “an extensive crime scene.”

“This morning, all of Baltimore is grieving for the lives that we lost here,” Mayor Brandon Scott (D) said during the news conference.

Scott called the shooting “a reckless, cowardly act” that “did not have to happen.”

Speaking directly to those responsible, he said, “We will not stop until we find you, and we will find you. Until then, I hope with every single breath that you take that you think about the lives that you took.”

Scott, elected in 2020 with a pledge to reduce gun violence, wrote in an editorial for The Washington Post in January that authorities must work harder and more holistically to tackle gun violence.

“The reality is that one homicide is one too many,” he wrote at the time. “Violence does not exist in a vacuum, and elected officials, advocates, law enforcement leaders and policymakers owe it to our residents to look toward comprehensive, coordinated solutions.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... -brooklyn/

[tabascoboy]

Jacksonville shooting: Racist gunman kills three black people in Florida store

A gunman killed three black people in a racially motivated attack then killed himself in Jacksonville, Florida, the city's sheriff said.

The man, described as white and in his early 20s, entered a Dollar General store and opened fire, triggering a standoff with police.

Sheriff T K Waters said two men and a woman were killed by the gunman, who wore body armour and left manifestos.

Mayor Donna Deegan said it was a "hate-filled crime" driven by racist hatred.

The sheriff said the shooter - who has not yet been officially named - carried a lightweight semi-automatic rifle and a handgun.

He is believed to have acted alone and allegedly wanted to kill himself. He lived in Jacksonville's Clay County with his parents and left several messages about his intentions, Sheriff Waters said, including one to his parents and another to the media. The sheriff added that at least one of the guns had a swastika drawn on it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66630263

[Niegs]

Suing the seller. Guessing Texas won't like that.

[TB63]

[sockwithaticket]

Presumably that's in reference to the Maine shooting spree? Two different incidents so far, believed to be the same gunman; 16 dead, dozens injured.

Just absurd that these are a normal part of life in America.

[TB63]

I read 22 dead over 3 places, same gunman..

[sockwithaticket]

The Guardian are behind the curve then. So senseless.

[Slick]

Presumably that's in reference to the Maine shooting spree? Two different incidents so far, believed to be the same gunman; 16 dead, dozens injured.

Just absurd that these are a normal part of life in America.

Yes, I saw an interview with a woman from there who basically said, of course we knew it would come at some point but it's still surprising when it does happen..... what a way to live

[Thor Sedan]

Gun instructor, trained by the military - in and out of hospital with mental health issues - including admitting that he wanted to commit a mass shooting - and STILL he can buy guns and ammo.

The right wing is correct - it isn't the guns that are the problem - it is the complete lack of mental health care in the world's richest country that is the issue.

[sockwithaticket]

A bit of column A and a bit from column B for the mass shootings. You have to be somewhat unhinged to carry one out. Massive restrictions on guns would make it much more difficult for the mentally ill to obtain one or drastically increasing the funding of mental health services while also taking steps to make the States (or certain states) less of a dystopic look into the future of late stage capitalism might help curb the number of people looking to use a firearm for such purposes. Republicans will back neither and so you have to live with the possibility of your life suddenly incorporating a hail of bullets.


The Yanks do, however, have a level of everyday low level gun violence, from teenagers getting shot at for simply using a driveway to make a turn to toddlers accidentally shooting parents by fiddling with a gun in a purse/out in the open, that cannot be explained away by citing mental health issues. It is everything to do with the proliferation of weapons and cultural attitudes towards them. Other developed nations with high gun ownership still typically have 3 to 4 times fewer guns per person than the US and greater restrictions on everything from type of weapon available to the public to how they can be stored.

[Slick]

Gun instructor, trained by the military - in and out of hospital with mental health issues - including admitting that he wanted to commit a mass shooting - and STILL he can buy guns and ammo.

The right wing is correct - it isn't the guns that are the problem - it is the complete lack of mental health care in the world's richest country that is the issue.

They are the only country in the world where this happens regularly, but not the only one with a lack of mental health care.

[Sandstorm]

If Open Carry is encouraged in some parts of whatever country you live in, then there's no hope for your children.

[Biffer]

A bit of column A and a bit from column B for the mass shootings. You have to be somewhat unhinged to carry one out. Massive restrictions on guns would make it much more difficult for the mentally ill to obtain one or drastically increasing the funding of mental health services while also taking steps to make the States (or certain states) less of a dystopic look into the future of late stage capitalism might help curb the number of people looking to use a firearm for such purposes. Republicans will back neither and so you have to live with the possibility of your life suddenly incorporating a hail of bullets.


The Yanks do, however, have a level of everyday low level gun violence, from teenagers getting shot at for simply using a driveway to make a turn to toddlers accidentally shooting parents by fiddling with a gun in a purse/out in the open, that cannot be explained away by citing mental health issues. It is everything to do with the proliferation of weapons and cultural attitudes towards them. Other developed nations with high gun ownership still typically have 3 to 4 times fewer guns per person than the US and greater restrictions on everything from type of weapon available to the public to how they can be stored.

Also a higher suicide rate because it’s easier to stick a gun in your mouth.

Life expectancy in the US is five years less than in Western Europe. The difference is due to guns, opiates and car accidents. If you live to 40, your life expectancy is then the same as in Western Europe. On average, one child in every kindergarten class will be dead by 40 from one of those three causes.

[laurent]

Scary article in Le monde

https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/ar ... 55770.html

and for the hard of hearing ;)
https://www-lemonde-fr.translate.goog/l ... r_pto=wapp

[tabascoboy]

'Merica, man

New Speaker Mike Johnson Blamed School Shootings on the Teaching of Evolution
Johnson’s comments ultimately imply science teachers are to blame for school shootings

While preaching a sermon in 2016, newly elected GOP Speaker Mike Johnson blamed mass shootings on the teaching of evolution.

Johnson remarks were delivered in a sermon titled Preserving Liberty at Christian Center Shreveport in 2016 in which he promoted his “legal ministry.”

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/new-sp ... -evolution

[Gumboot]

[Jethro]

'Merica, man

New Speaker Mike Johnson Blamed School Shootings on the Teaching of Evolution
Johnson’s comments ultimately imply science teachers are to blame for school shootings

While preaching a sermon in 2016, newly elected GOP Speaker Mike Johnson blamed mass shootings on the teaching of evolution.

Johnson remarks were delivered in a sermon titled Preserving Liberty at Christian Center Shreveport in 2016 in which he promoted his “legal ministry.”

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/new-sp ... -evolution

Yeah I'm going to blame terrorism on the Big Bang Theory, stupid physics

[mat the expat]

Also a higher suicide rate because it’s easier to stick a gun in your mouth.

A close friend of mine is now deaf in one ear and even more depressed than he was due to attempting suicide with a pistol

Has to rely on Meetup groups for support, can't work and yet, still has a gun....

[Gumboot]

Also a higher suicide rate because it’s easier to stick a gun in your mouth.

A close friend of mine is now deaf in one ear and even more depressed than he was due to attempting suicide with a pistol

Has to rely on Meetup groups for support, can't work and yet, still has a gun....

[mat the expat]

Also a higher suicide rate because it’s easier to stick a gun in your mouth.

A close friend of mine is now deaf in one ear and even more depressed than he was due to attempting suicide with a pistol

Has to rely on Meetup groups for support, can't work and yet, still has a gun....

I help him out when I can but sadly, the feeling is always there that he'll do it again one day ....

[Insane_Homer]

Police in Las Vegas are responding to an active shooter alert at the Las Vegas campus of the University of Nevada.

They said there appeared to be "multiple victims at this time" near the university's Beam Hall building.

Las Vegas police later said the suspect had been found dead.

The university first tweeted at around 11:53 local time (19:53 GMT) that police were responding to reports of shots fired on campus.