So, coronavirus...

[Sandstorm]

No chance I’m trusting people to judge personal risk. People are selfish idiots.

NL wasn’t one I expected to be selfish, but I think he’s got 20-something kids that are his whole world.....

[Slick]

I was out in central Edinburgh today and mask wearing on the buses during the day was pretty much 100%. School kick out time and pretty much 100% of kids not wearing them on the bus.

This shouldn’t be too fucking difficult to police through parents, teachers and bus drivers, but there we are

[Sandstorm]

I was out in central Edinburgh today and mask wearing on the buses during the day was pretty much 100%. School kick out time and pretty much 100% of kids not wearing them on the bus.

This shouldn’t be too fucking difficult to police through parents, teachers and bus drivers, but there we are

Funny how many kids were behind Greta last year when the plan was to save the planet.

This year when we could save granny.....yeah nah.

[Openside]

Farkin hell you moan about everything and anything.

Then mute me. cunt

oh and edit:

or don't be such a whiny thin skinned princess.

[Openside]

No chance I’m trusting people to judge personal risk. People are selfish idiots.

NL wasn’t one I expected to be selfish, but I think he’s got 20-something kids that are his whole world.....

His kids are school age.as opposed to having 20 of them

[Enzedder]

This year when we could save granny.....yeah nah.

Perhaps they should have been at school learning the ropes - some parents either don't believe or are too lazy to teach. I have been watching the kids here and they are generally very good at following the "rules"

[Sandstorm]

This year when we could save granny.....yeah nah.

Perhaps they should have been at school learning the ropes - some parents either don't believe or are too lazy to teach. I have been watching the kids here and they are generally very good at following the "rules"

Kids are fine. Turn 19, leave home and then the rules don’t apply to you.

[Slick]

This year when we could save granny.....yeah nah.

Perhaps they should have been at school learning the ropes - some parents either don't believe or are too lazy to teach. I have been watching the kids here and they are generally very good at following the "rules"

Kids are fine. Turn 19, leave home and then the rules don’t apply to you.

I do have some sympathy to be honest. 19, away from home for the first time, just started uni - I’d be/was out every night getting pissed and trying to get laid.

[Sandstorm]

From Monday England back to limit of groups of just six.

[Raggs]

From Monday England back to limit of groups of just six.

I have to assume that rugby training etc is more or less out again...

Edit apparently not. As long as it's conducted safely.

[yermum]

https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/ast ... n-the-u-k/

Not sure how serious this is but it looks like bad news for the oxford vaccine...

[Sandstorm]

From Monday England back to limit of groups of just six.

I have to assume that rugby training etc is more or less out again...

Edit apparently not. As long as it's conducted safely.

Sport is still ok. They’re trying to stop house parties and similar gatherings.

[fishfoodie]

https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/ast ... n-the-u-k/

Not sure how serious this is but it looks like bad news for the oxford vaccine...

Par for the course when doing clinical trials; & exactly why responsible people are concerned when Politicians decide that they don't need to go thru the standard approval processes when doing validation

[Quade]

https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/ast ... n-the-u-k/

Not sure how serious this is but it looks like bad news for the oxford vaccine...

Par for the course when doing clinical trials; & exactly why responsible people are concerned when Politicians decide that they don't need to go thru the standard approval processes when doing validation

Fortunately the other Phase III vaccines aren't based on the same approach, so even if it is an issue and not just an unrelated event, it likely does not impact on COVID-19 vaccines generally. Still, not ideal.

[Quade]

Apparently it was transverse myelitis, which happens occasionally even with approved vaccines.

Review at https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1988056 ... accination.

Transverse myelitis is a rare clinical syndrome in which an immune-mediated process causes neural injury to the spinal cord. The pathogenesis of transverse myelitis is mostly of an autoimmune nature, triggered by various environmental factors, including vaccination. Our aim here was to search for and analyze reported cases of transverse myelitis following vaccination. A systematic review of PubMed, EMBASE and DynaMed for all English-language journals published between 1970 and 2009 was preformed, utilizing the key words transverse myelitis, myelitis, vaccines, post-vaccination, vaccination and autoimmunity. We have disclosed 37 reported cases of transverse myelitis associated with different vaccines including those against hepatitis B virus, measles-mumps-rubella, diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis and others, given to infants, children and adults. In most of these reported cases the temporal association was between several days and 3 months, although a longer time frame of up to several years was also suggested. Although vaccines harbor a major contribution to public health in the modern era, in rare cases they may be associated with autoimmune phenomena such as transverse myelitis. The associations of different vaccines with a single autoimmune phenomenon allude to the idea that a common denominator of these vaccines, such as an adjuvant, might trigger this syndrome.

[Hal Jordan]

From Monday England back to limit of groups of just six.

Poor S Club 7.

Also, has anyone told Jacob Rees-Mogg?

[duke]

From Monday England back to limit of groups of just six.

Poor S Club 7.

Also, has anyone told Jacob Rees-Mogg?

Yul Brunner is going to be pretty hacked off too

[Insane_Homer]

Drug maker AstraZeneca pauses COVID-19 vaccine trials for ‘routine’ checks due to ‘potentially unexplained illness’ during tests

The drug giant said it is “routine action” to pause trials whenever there is an unexplained illness among participants. “In large trials, illnesses will happen by chance but must be independently reviewed to check this carefully,” according to AstraZeneca. This comes after nine major pharma companies, including AstraZeneca, signed a petition, committing to not rush the process of developing a vaccine for COVID-19.

[Saint]

Very likely nothing to worry about. This is the second pause for this vaccine trial (there was one early June), and given that there are now already around 20,000 people involved in the trial, it's inevitable that things like this will pop up. They'll investigate to ensure that this is not cause & effect, and as long as it's not resume further inoculations.

EDIT - it;s not even know yet whether this individual received the COVID vaccine, or the control Meningitis vaccine

[Slick]

My brother in law is due to get married in 10 days time.

His wife to be (6 months pregnant) and him have just returned from a holiday to France with 10 mates. They all decided to get a test the day after they got back and have all gone back to work etc with no quarantine. Her mother has just announced she is going to Turkey tomorrow and will have a test when she gets back so all will be OK.

Anyway, they were a bit upset last night at the new restrictions and he came out with a great line “these rules are not really for us anyway”. Just doesn’t get that they can pass it on it seems.

I pointed out that 2 guests were in their 80’s (one with cancer) two 75 (one had a stroke last year) and a couple of others in their 70’s - “the chances we have it are pretty small”

Just arseholes.

[Ted.]

Italy's Bergamo is calling back Covid-19 survivors, half say they haven't fully recovered.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/30 ... -recovered

[TB63]

From Monday England back to limit of groups of just six.

Why wait till Monday?

Makes no sense.. 5 days of partying like fuck before lock down is how this will be perceived..?

[Biffer]

My brother in law is due to get married in 10 days time.

His wife to be (6 months pregnant) and him have just returned from a holiday to France with 10 mates. They all decided to get a test the day after they got back and have all gone back to work etc with no quarantine. Her mother has just announced she is going to Turkey tomorrow and will have a test when she gets back so all will be OK.

Anyway, they were a bit upset last night at the new restrictions and he came out with a great line “these rules are not really for us anyway”. Just doesn’t get that they can pass it on it seems.

I pointed out that 2 guests were in their 80’s (one with cancer) two 75 (one had a stroke last year) and a couple of others in their 70’s - “the chances we have it are pretty small”

Just arseholes.

That's fucking crazy. I wouldn't be going.

[Insane_Homer]

[Slick]

My brother in law is due to get married in 10 days time.

His wife to be (6 months pregnant) and him have just returned from a holiday to France with 10 mates. They all decided to get a test the day after they got back and have all gone back to work etc with no quarantine. Her mother has just announced she is going to Turkey tomorrow and will have a test when she gets back so all will be OK.

Anyway, they were a bit upset last night at the new restrictions and he came out with a great line “these rules are not really for us anyway”. Just doesn’t get that they can pass it on it seems.

I pointed out that 2 guests were in their 80’s (one with cancer) two 75 (one had a stroke last year) and a couple of others in their 70’s - “the chances we have it are pretty small”

Just arseholes.

That's fucking crazy. I wouldn't be going.

That’s my thoughts. Difficult situation though so these new rules might have saved a family bust up.

[Hal Jordan]

From Monday England back to limit of groups of just six.

Why wait till Monday?

Makes no sense.. 5 days of partying like fuck before lock down is how this will be perceived..?

Probably another balloon floating exercise to be followed by a u-turn.

[Insane_Homer]

Scottish band The Proclaimers are offering to help

[SaintK]

So the Covid-19 testing fiasco is all us, the general public's fault

The UK health secretary, Matt Hancock, has been accused of blaming the public for the mounting problems with access to Covid-19 tests after he claimed that a quarter of those coming forward for checks were ineligible because they were asymptomatic.
Hancock has spearheaded efforts to expand testing, urging people to get checked if they have symptoms or “have any doubt”.

On 21 July, Hancock tweeted a video of himself speaking in the Commons about the issue, adding the message: “If you have symptoms of #coronavirus, or if you have any doubt, get a coronavirus test. Anybody who needs a test can get a test, & it’s the most important thing that you can do to stop the spread of this virus.”

No mixed messaging there then?

[Hal Jordan]

The Speaker has slapped Hancock for not announcing the six person restriction to the Commons first.

No peerage for him, and a committee to investigate whether Parliament needs a Speaker.

[SaintK]

The Speaker has slapped Hancock for not announcing the six person restriction to the Commons first.

No peerage for him, and a committee to investigate whether Parliament needs a Speaker.

Been following a spat between the two in Private Eye over the past few months.
Evidently despite personal assurances and in writing from Hancock that a local A and E department in Speaker Hoyles Chorley constituency would not be closed down..................it was. Speaker Hoyle is not happy and this is probably the 4th or 5th slap down that Hancock has had since Hoyle was elected as Speaker.
It's one thing constantly lying to us, the great unwashed, but cross the Speaker at your peril

[.OverThere]

So the Covid-19 testing fiasco is all us, the general public's fault

The UK health secretary, Matt Hancock, has been accused of blaming the public for the mounting problems with access to Covid-19 tests after he claimed that a quarter of those coming forward for checks were ineligible because they were asymptomatic.
Hancock has spearheaded efforts to expand testing, urging people to get checked if they have symptoms or “have any doubt”.

On 21 July, Hancock tweeted a video of himself speaking in the Commons about the issue, adding the message: “If you have symptoms of #coronavirus, or if you have any doubt, get a coronavirus test. Anybody who needs a test can get a test, & it’s the most important thing that you can do to stop the spread of this virus.”

No mixed messaging there then?

Weren't all MPs tested back in May/June?

[Slick]

These Christmas questions at the press conference are annoying. I don’t know why Boris doesn’t say stick to the rules and we can relax them again you fucking idiots

[ASMO]

[tabascoboy]

Mr Johnson also outlined a "moonshot" plan to control the virus with mass testing.

[Slick]

Latest addition to the wedding plan, book a pub for lunch on the Sunday. Going to do it in stages so they don’t know we are from the same group.

Just unequivocally pulled out of Sunday

[Bimbowomxn]

Well the UK government have now gone officially insane. And for the first time “passports”.

Remember they took emergency powers to protect the NHS.

Bed wetters everywhere allowing this.

Lots,of “covid Marshall” jobs for some posters here though.

[Bimbowomxn]

Latest addition to the wedding plan, book a pub for lunch on the Sunday. Going to do it in stages so they don’t know we are from the same group.

Just unequivocally pulled out of Sunday

Book it as a conference, no restriction on work numbers.

[Un Pilier]

Latest addition to the wedding plan, book a pub for lunch on the Sunday. Going to do it in stages so they don’t know we are from the same group.

Just unequivocally pulled out of Sunday

Book it as a conference, no restriction on work numbers.

Stupid is as Stupid does. Or as Stupid suggests in your case Bimbo.

[Biffer]

Latest addition to the wedding plan, book a pub for lunch on the Sunday. Going to do it in stages so they don’t know we are from the same group.

Just unequivocally pulled out of Sunday

Blimey.

Good move on your part. If someone was trying to get my 80 something Mum to go to a wedding they would get a proper earful from me, and that would before I let my sisters loose on them.

[Ted.]

Well the UK government have now gone officially insane. And for the first time “passports”.

Remember they took emergency powers to protect the NHS.

Bed wetters everywhere allowing this.

Lots,of “covid Marshall” jobs for some posters here though.

For the few of us who are not rattling around in your mind nor reside in your local bubble, would you be able to you explain what you are talking about? For instance, what sort of passports and why are they bad?