Stop voting for fucking Tories

[GogLais]

Fuck me I have gone into Town and forgot it's the 12th.
Feral drunkards roaming the streets draped in Union flags and St George's Crosses wearing Rangers shirts and spouting foul language.

FFS

Where’s town if you don’t mind my asking? I remember them lining up outside our office in Liverpool before going off to Southport for the day.

[C69]

Fuck me I have gone into Town and forgot it's the 12th.
Feral drunkards roaming the streets draped in Union flags and St George's Crosses wearing Rangers shirts and spouting foul language.

FFS

Where’s town if you don’t mind my asking? I remember them lining up outside our office in Liverpool before going off to Southport for the day.

Southport

[GogLais]

Mad Nad still spitting feathers about that peerage!!
Wish she'd just fuck off like she promised!

Nadine Dorries has been reported to the chief whip and Commons speaker after allegedly sending “forceful” emails to the government about not being given a peerage.
In a highly unusual move, the cabinet secretary, Simon Case, revealed he had “flagged” the issue to the parliamentary authorities, and also asked for advice about any potential breach of the law.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ ... johnson

It’s still astonishing that she has no idea how this looks to the rest of us. Or she doesn’t care more likely.

[GogLais]

Fuck me I have gone into Town and forgot it's the 12th.
Feral drunkards roaming the streets draped in Union flags and St George's Crosses wearing Rangers shirts and spouting foul language.

FFS

Where’s town if you don’t mind my asking? I remember them lining up outside our office in Liverpool before going off to Southport for the day.

Southport

I should have expected that.

[Insane_Homer]

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[Sandstorm]

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Could the Tories BE any more cuntish?

[Insane_Homer]

I think what he meant to say is that Tories want 'donations' to make up for the all the Rubles they've lost out on?

[SaintK]

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I thought Wallace was supposed to be "the" safe pair of hands in cabinet!!

The Sun asks if Sunak would have said the comments made by Ben Wallace about Ukraine needing to show the west “gratitude”.
Sunak says: “President Zelenskiy has repeatedly expressed his gratitude to me and to the British people and indeed other allies as well. He did it very movingly in parliament when he was in the UK earlier this year.

[tabascoboy]

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Could the Tories BE any more cuntish?

That's a challenge I expect them to take on with relish

[fishfoodie]

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Could the Tories BE any more cuntish?

That's a challenge I expect them to take on with relish

Well that's assault & criminal damage, & all recorded for the Met too !

[SaintK]

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Could the Tories BE any more cuntish?

That's a challenge I expect them to take on with relish

"Don't you dare publish that"
What a twat!

[GogLais]

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I thought Wallace was supposed to be "the" safe pair of hands in cabinet!!

The Sun asks if Sunak would have said the comments made by Ben Wallace about Ukraine needing to show the west “gratitude”.
Sunak says: “President Zelenskiy has repeatedly expressed his gratitude to me and to the British people and indeed other allies as well. He did it very movingly in parliament when he was in the UK earlier this year.

Feeling resentful after not getting the NATO job?

[shaggy]

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I thought Wallace was supposed to be "the" safe pair of hands in cabinet!!

The Sun asks if Sunak would have said the comments made by Ben Wallace about Ukraine needing to show the west “gratitude”.
Sunak says: “President Zelenskiy has repeatedly expressed his gratitude to me and to the British people and indeed other allies as well. He did it very movingly in parliament when he was in the UK earlier this year.

Feeling resentful after not getting the NATO job?

I thought the Yanks had already said the thing?

Edit - Jake Sullivan, US national security advisor.

[petej]

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I thought Wallace was supposed to be "the" safe pair of hands in cabinet!!

The Sun asks if Sunak would have said the comments made by Ben Wallace about Ukraine needing to show the west “gratitude”.
Sunak says: “President Zelenskiy has repeatedly expressed his gratitude to me and to the British people and indeed other allies as well. He did it very movingly in parliament when he was in the UK earlier this year.

Feeling resentful after not getting the NATO job?

While no fan of the Tories I think this comment has been taken out of context.

[C69]

I thought Wallace was supposed to be "the" safe pair of hands in cabinet!!

Feeling resentful after not getting the NATO job?

While no fan of the Tories I think this comment has been taken out of context.

Wallace knew exactly what he was doing and watching the Ukrainian leaders response was telling he was fucking furious , his body language was clear and obvious.

[fishfoodie]

Feeling resentful after not getting the NATO job?

While no fan of the Tories I think this comment has been taken out of context.

Wallace knew exactly what he was doing and watching the Ukrainian leaders response was telling he was fucking furious , his body language was clear and obvious.

I think Zelenskiy is seeing his soldiers & civilians getting killed by barbarians, & listening to NATO et al worrying about escalation, & thinking to himself; how bad does it have to get before they; "Get It" !

NATO think he's being ungrateful, but they could do with walking a mile in his shoes.

I accept there are legitimate concerns around how far things can be pushed, but I can also imagine the massive stress, & heartche that Zelenskiy goes thru daily.

[Hal Jordan]

There's always another baby announcement, he barebacks more than a rodeo rider with three shows to do before dinnertime.

Dude. That put me off my lunch.

If only he had been put off his stroke a few times.

[C69]

So GDP down and no growth since 2019.
Interes rate rise mean less ability for industry to invest.
The Pay Review bodies to recommend rises greater than the Govt will resource.
Mortgages to rise by £500 a month.

Not a great look for UK PLC and the government.
Omnishambles springs to mind.

[Jim Lahey]

So GDP down and no growth since 2019.
Interes rate rise mean less ability for industry to invest.
The Pay Review bodies to recommend rises greater than the Govt will resource.
Mortgages to rise by £500 a month.

Not a great look for UK PLC and the government.
Omnishambles springs to mind.

I'm not an avid follower of politics but seems like an open net 1 yard out for Labour next GE. New ideas required.

What reforms are likely to be brought in by Starmer and co., or is it too early for a clear direction yet?

[fishfoodie]

So GDP down and no growth since 2019.
Interes rate rise mean less ability for industry to invest.
The Pay Review bodies to recommend rises greater than the Govt will resource.
Mortgages to rise by £500 a month.

Not a great look for UK PLC and the government.
Omnishambles springs to mind.

Don't forget house prices are falling !, so your extra interest is going on a depreciating asset.

[GogLais]

So GDP down and no growth since 2019.
Interes rate rise mean less ability for industry to invest.
The Pay Review bodies to recommend rises greater than the Govt will resource.
Mortgages to rise by £500 a month.

Not a great look for UK PLC and the government.
Omnishambles springs to mind.

I'm not an avid follower of politics but seems like an open net 1 yard out for Labour next GE. New ideas required.

What reforms are likely to be brought in by Starmer and co., or is it too early for a clear direction yet?

With the economy in the state it’s in they can only tinker at the margins. Honesty and competence would be good. I fear there’s little chance of constitutional stuff like PR or HoL reform. But really everything stands or falls on our weak economy and low productivity.

[Line6 HXFX]

As far as I am aware, Labour are not getting rid of any tory policies re social security.
So Bedroom tax, 2 child limit, terrorising the poor sick and unemployed, universal credit system, The PIP assessment system, the sanctions regime ...foodbanks.. all staying in place.

So straight away the poor are going to pay.

Lots more "death by middle class morality tale" and finger jabbing.

Wales may as well go for independence.
What the fuck have we got to lose?

There will always be foodbanks.

[Yeeb]

As far as I am aware, Labour are not getting rid of any tory policies re social security.
So Bedroom tax, 2 child limit, terrorising the poor sick and unemployed, universal credit system, The PIP assessment system, the sanctions regime ...foodbanks.. all staying in place.

So straight away the poor are going to pay.

Lots more "death by middle class morality tale" and finger jabbing.

Wales may as well go for independence.
What the fuck have we got to lose?

There will always be foodbanks.

You not a labour supporter then ?

If wales were Independant, who would fund those food banks ? Tom Jones ?!

[Jim Lahey]

As far as I am aware, Labour are not getting rid of any tory policies re social security.
So Bedroom tax, 2 child limit, terrorising the poor sick and unemployed, universal credit system, The PIP assessment system, the sanctions regime ...foodbanks.. all staying in place.

So straight away the poor are going to pay.

Lots more "death by middle class morality tale" and finger jabbing.

Wales may as well go for independence.
What the fuck have we got to lose?

There will always be foodbanks.

You not a labour supporter then ?

If wales were Independant, who would fund those food banks ? Tom Jones ?!

Gav must have a few bob left down the back of his sofa.
And there's always Gareth Bale.

[C69]

So GDP down and no growth since 2019.
Interes rate rise mean less ability for industry to invest.
The Pay Review bodies to recommend rises greater than the Govt will resource.
Mortgages to rise by £500 a month.

Not a great look for UK PLC and the government.
Omnishambles springs to mind.

Don't forget house prices are falling !, so your extra interest is going on a depreciating asset.

Fortunately I have paid off my mortgage.

[dpedin]

So GDP down and no growth since 2019.
Interes rate rise mean less ability for industry to invest.
The Pay Review bodies to recommend rises greater than the Govt will resource.
Mortgages to rise by £500 a month.

Not a great look for UK PLC and the government.
Omnishambles springs to mind.

Don't forget house prices are falling !, so your extra interest is going on a depreciating asset.

Fortunately I have paid off my mortgage.

The Tories will be fighting the next General Election on culture wars issues - immigration, cancel culture, woke lefties, etc - so expect it to be even more dirty and messy than usual. The likes of 30p Anderson and Angry Man Gullis are who the Tories see as their secret weapons to engage with the masses ... feckin idiots!

[C69]

Don't forget house prices are falling !, so your extra interest is going on a depreciating asset.

Fortunately I have paid off my mortgage.

The Tories will be fighting the next General Election on culture wars issues - immigration, cancel culture, woke lefties, etc - so expect it to be even more dirty and messy than usual. The likes of 30p Anderson and Angry Man Gullis are who the Tories see as their secret weapons to engage with the masses ... feckin idiots!

I suspect that there will be a focus on Corbyn etc The Deputy PM tried it at PMQs yesterday.
They had better tread carefully with that one.
When people have massive mortgage and energy payments, can't see a doctor or a dentist.

Interestingly there is grumblings of massive NHS strikes in the new year as well as other sextors
This is even more likely if PRBs are ignored.

Tbh the govt is in a terrible position of their own making.
If they accept the PRBs purported increases of 6-6.5% then it will be perceived the Nurses with 5% were shafted.
If they don't accept the PRBs then there will be a summer and winter of continued strikes.


Obviously if they accept the PRB and say it must come from existing monies then it's gonna be somewhat problematic.
By problematic I mean fucking lunacy.

[_Os_]

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Some interesting things going on there.

One of the Tory Brexit claims was the UK could be a "sovereign equal", that just leaving the EU would make the UK equal to all other states and regional blocs. Frost's view that the UK and EU being sat at a table is two equal entities. This wasn't true, power (aka sovereignty) is defined by relative strength and the rules states agree to follow.

Back to the NATO summit. Ukraine is determined to follow more of the rules, it wants to be a NATO and EU member. In other words it wants to have more sovereignty (aka power) than it would have on its own. In a nutshell that's what Russia's invasion of Ukraine since 2014 is about, Russia losing soft power and resorting to hard power.

It doesn't seem like Wallace gets how any of this works, and why those comments wouldn't be taken well. The "sovereign equal" logic is really a rejection that relative strength and rules matter at all, it's the claim the UK can just demand status and get it because it's the UK. That seems to be the logic Wallace is using to interpret Ukraine's actions (Wallace supported remain in 2016, but basically became a hard Brexiter afterwards). But that's not what Ukraine is doing, they're playing by NATO and EU rules (even in how they've conducted a war for survival, outside the rules things like mass killings of POWs or indiscriminate targeting of civilians all become possible, something Ukraine has avoided). If Ukraine were rejecting not only Russia but also NATO and the EU, then making demands of NATO and the EU, the war wouldn't be going so well for Ukraine.

The gratitude is in playing by the rules and wanting to be an equal member of NATO and the EU. Which for the UK will really just means the added security responsibility of defending Ukraine without much benefit. It's Tory contradictions (which Wallace was part of and supported) that means the UK's role is to be an Amazon for weapons, Wallace needs to stop crying and make more Amazon deliveries, or stop making his Amazon deliveries and lose even more influence.

[Openside]

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Could the Tories BE any more cuntish?

Oh FFS read the whole quote, the whole show more gratitude thing was to persuade some reluctant US politicians to get on board with further aid packages.

[_Os_]

reluctant US politicians to get on board with further aid packages.

They're not reluctant, they just don't support Ukraine, Trump Republicans want to cut a deal with Putin and think he's a reasonable guy. Characters in the UK like Farage have a similar view. They would probably prefer NATO doesn't exist and see the EU as a rival.

Wallace's comments about not being an Amazon warehouse were on Wallace's own account made in private a year ago, he has now decided to share them, because he thinks (stupidly) this will help Ukraine apparently. His comments aren't going to help Ukraine and have given supporters of Putin/Russia a pile of soundbites "as Ben Wallace the UK's defence minister said, Ukraine is ungrateful and is treating us like an Amazon store".

Ukraine will keep following all the NATO and EU rules they can, whilst making demands for what they need. The people who oppose NATO and the EU will keep opposing Ukraine.

[sockwithaticket]

A little bit of good news, Tory attempts to undermine strikes by allowing companies to use agency workers struck down by the High Court.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... rt-verdict

[tabascoboy]

[tabascoboy]

Well, well; in the latest "well shit we never saw this coming", it turns out BB has now very conveniently "forgotten his pass code" for his phone!

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Meh, stick him in a jail cell and hold him for contempt until he remembers

[Mahoney]

If they've got physical access to the phone they can clone the storage, then they can just brute force it. If it's your standard 6 digit code its only 1,000,000 tries.

[fishfoodie]

Meh, stick him in a jail cell and hold him for contempt until he remembers

Honey + Testicles + Fire Ants

If he doesn't recall with 5 minutes I'll be very surprised, & at least the planet won't have to deal with any more of his spawn

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Meh, stick him in a jail cell and hold him for contempt until he remembers

Honey + Testicles + Fire Ants

If he doesn't recall with 5 minutes I'll be very surprised, & at least the planet won't have to deal with any more of his spawn

history says he'd get one (or more) of the fire ants pregnant

[C69]

Ffs this is the equivalent of the dog ate my homework.
If our governments tech guys can't get the messages then.....
Get better tech guys


Fucking pathetic

[Uncle fester]

As far as I am aware, Labour are not getting rid of any tory policies re social security.
So Bedroom tax, 2 child limit, terrorising the poor sick and unemployed, universal credit system, The PIP assessment system, the sanctions regime ...foodbanks.. all staying in place.

So straight away the poor are going to pay.

Lots more "death by middle class morality tale" and finger jabbing.

Wales may as well go for independence.
What the fuck have we got to lose?

There will always be foodbanks.

You not a labour supporter then ?

If wales were Independant, who would fund those food banks ? Tom Jones ?!

Welsh TV money

[C69]

As far as I am aware, Labour are not getting rid of any tory policies re social security.
So Bedroom tax, 2 child limit, terrorising the poor sick and unemployed, universal credit system, The PIP assessment system, the sanctions regime ...foodbanks.. all staying in place.

So straight away the poor are going to pay.

Lots more "death by middle class morality tale" and finger jabbing.

Wales may as well go for independence.
What the fuck have we got to lose?

There will always be foodbanks.

You not a labour supporter then ?

If wales were Independant, who would fund those food banks ? Tom Jones ?!

Welsh TV money

Yeeb and Fester the Brains Trust.

Tbh hard to argue with the sentiments of Refry.
Labour and Tory lite again
A rehashed New Labour with Starmer as Blair. The show contempt for the working class politics and redistributed wealth whilst courting Rupert.
Moving ever more to the right and I suppose for some the pursuit of climbing the greasy pole is all that matters.
But to what end?