The Rugby Championship - W2 - 15 July : NZ v SA / Aus v Rg

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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:42 am
average joe wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:39 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:35 am Dan du Plessis forJessie Kriel
Thats a good one. Did Kriel even play?
He is in the squad. Dan Doep can play 12 and 13. He is a performer for the Stormers all season. Specially on defense and attack.
Yes, he had a great season this season, previously always broken though. Perhaps next year will be his year.
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Look I dont want to replace the lot in the bigger squad. They much give the others in the group like Joseph Dweba, Thomas du Toit, Vincent Koch, Ox, RG Snyman, Evan Roos , Deon Fourie & Grant Williams a start against the Pumas. After that they should reward the performers and drop the non performers.
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Are we all in agreement then that Vermeulen was crap against the Ozzies and the All Blacks?

He should be put out to pasture.
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Chilli wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:12 am Are we all in agreement then that Vermeulen was crap against the Ozzies and the All Blacks?

He should be put out to pasture.
Who would you take to the world cup as back up for Wiese? I thought he was very good against the Wallabies, but so was the rest of the team.
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LoveOfTheGame wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:19 am
Chilli wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:12 am Are we all in agreement then that Vermeulen was crap against the Ozzies and the All Blacks?

He should be put out to pasture.
Who would you take to the world cup as back up for Wiese? I thought he was very good against the Wallabies, but so was the rest of the team.
That was for the benefit of Wors and $ards.
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Chilli wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:12 am Are we all in agreement then that Vermeulen was crap against the Ozzies and the All Blacks?

He should be put out to pasture.
Nope, he should be put in cotton wool. He booked his place, also best captain
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LoveOfTheGame wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:19 am
Chilli wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:12 am Are we all in agreement then that Vermeulen was crap against the Ozzies and the All Blacks?

He should be put out to pasture.
Who would you take to the world cup as back up for Wiese? I thought he was very good against the Wallabies, but so was the rest of the team.
Evan Roos or Elrich Louw
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Roos is n doos, Louw is te blou.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:40 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:38 am
Sards wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:42 am We lost anyway. Even with resting our players and getting them there early to prevent jet lag.
Chilli wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:58 am The All Blacks were better than us on the day, as they normally are.
We can debate that whole strategy of splitting the squad and travelling early...

but there's another aspect to the performance that's being missed a little. After the first 30 minutes or so when the ABs had been on fire, they lost their way a little and settled into a more conservative game. Then your guys started to exert their own influence on the game and momentum completely shifted, swing the Boks' way... and the Boks were dominant for the middle hour or so of the game. To come back from so far behind is no mean feat and the power your guys had over the breakdown was pretty convincing... the ABs started to look pretty rattled. Of course some individual brilliance sealed the deal and that early lead proved enough... this time.

The thing I look at it here is, the next time we play will be at the RWC when both sides have had the same travel and build up issues. Barring injury or some sort of brainfart suspension, both sides will be able to name their best teams... and from what I saw the other night, the Springboks have a lot more to show whereas we saw the ABs pretty much at their best. You guys have a bigger upside to look forward to... and I think you're on track to go deep into the RWC. How we go next time out against each other is impossible to predict but I think it'll be a much closer result and there's no way I see it automatically going the ABs way.
Guy I like your thinking.

How many of the matchday All Blacks played in the Soup final.?
Of the starting 15...

Forwards: Hooker, two locks and Openside.

Backs: Number 10 and 14.

Six in the starting team..

On the bench: Samisoni, Williams and Ennor (3)

In total, Nine of the 23 played in the Super Final.

I think NZ came back well in the last 20 minutes after SA were gaining some momentum during the middle third of the game. So both teams can improve. Personally I think mentally SA weren't quite there. Which could be because of Eben's dad passing, affecting the whole vibe of the group.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:42 am
average joe wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:39 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:35 am Dan du Plessis forJessie Kriel
Thats a good one. Did Kriel even play?
He is in the squad. Dan Doep can play 12 and 13. He is a performer for the Stormers all season. Specially on defense and attack.
They won't bring in any player who hasn't been with the Boks for the last month (minimum) at this stage unless all the props or flyhalves go down. The squad has enough cover everywhere else.
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Perhaps Buthelezi or Notshe and then drop Marx and Malherbe for Kerron van Vuuren and Mchunu, They're old and over the hill too.
In the backs, drop DDA for Janse van Grensburg and Willie for Thaakir Abrahams.
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average joe wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:58 am Perhaps Buthelezi or Notshe and then drop Marx and Malherbe for Kerron van Vuuren and Mchunu, They're old and over the hill too.
In the backs, drop DDA for Janse van Grensburg and Willie for Thaakir Abrahams.
Sounds like a plan. Also that new utility back at the Lions with 3 caps. He'd be perfect for the RWC.
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Chilli wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:23 am
LoveOfTheGame wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:19 am
Chilli wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:12 am Are we all in agreement then that Vermeulen was crap against the Ozzies and the All Blacks?

He should be put out to pasture.
Who would you take to the world cup as back up for Wiese? I thought he was very good against the Wallabies, but so was the rest of the team.
That was for the benefit of Wors and $ards.
Right, gotcha. Never mind me then.
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:05 am
average joe wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:58 am Perhaps Buthelezi or Notshe and then drop Marx and Malherbe for Kerron van Vuuren and Mchunu, They're old and over the hill too.
In the backs, drop DDA for Janse van Grensburg and Willie for Thaakir Abrahams.
Sounds like a plan. Also that new utility back at the Lions with 3 caps. He'd be perfect for the RWC.
Loads of U20 players also ready for higher honours. I mean just look how.. uhm. No wait, never mind.
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average joe wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:58 am Perhaps Buthelezi or Notshe and then drop Marx and Malherbe for Kerron van Vuuren and Mchunu, They're old and over the hill too.
In the backs, drop DDA for Janse van Grensburg and Willie for Thaakir Abrahams.
Bekommered vir die Bok?
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:52 am

The current crop of Boks are hardly the geriatric Lions that got spanked in NZ in 2005.
Quite, I would rather say that there is a complete lack of game time....Nienaber hinted at it that the team that played Aus were battle hardened.....The toppies are so UN MATCH FIT its not funny.

I would agree with ouboet that Dan Du Plesis should have been in the squad ages ago. I just feel they are giving some players a pass to the detriment of others. Its always like that.
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Chilli wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:04 am
average joe wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:58 am Perhaps Buthelezi or Notshe and then drop Marx and Malherbe for Kerron van Vuuren and Mchunu, They're old and over the hill too.
In the backs, drop DDA for Janse van Grensburg and Willie for Thaakir Abrahams.
Bekommered vir die Bok?
Cant take such random Bullshit seriously
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:55 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:42 am
average joe wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:39 am
Thats a good one. Did Kriel even play?
He is in the squad. Dan Doep can play 12 and 13. He is a performer for the Stormers all season. Specially on defense and attack.
They won't bring in any player who hasn't been with the Boks for the last month (minimum) at this stage unless all the props or flyhalves go down. The squad has enough cover everywhere else.
Ja I understand. I just gave a name to my Vrystaat chom.
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Before this year no one even knew who Dan Doep was. All of a sudden, he should have been a Springbok ages ago. Write off 2020, 2021 anyone calling for Dan? no. 2022? no, where was he even. He was injured. One good season and it's "they should have blooded him in 1998 already"
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average joe wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:12 pm Before this year no one even knew who Dan Doep was. All of a sudden, he should have been a Springbok ages ago. Write off 2020, 2021 anyone calling for Dan? no. 2022? no, where was he even. He was injured. One good season and it's "they should have blooded him in 1998 already"
Yes, but what is season it was. :grin:
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The rusty toppies are out of shape. How do we get them back into shape? We let them sit in the stands and watch these exiting new young players play.

Do you understand that to become match fit you actually need to play matches and the national side only have a limited number of matches to play in?

I'm beginning to think I've rediscovered YMX's twins.
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average joe wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:25 pm The rusty toppies are out of shape. How do we get them back into shape? We let them sit in the stands and watch these exiting new young players play.

Do you understand that to become match fit you actually need to play matches and the national side only have a limited number of matches to play in?

I'm beginning to think I've rediscovered YMX's twins.
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Oh my word.

You lot are so confused

I see the Kiwis are just sitting back and watching the usual bullshit carry on.

It's already established at the beginning of the conversation that there is a team and the rest is just for this kind of bullshit speculation. I never realized that posting that a Kiwi scribe thought our boks are " toppies " would upset so many.

What should be discussed is.....who the vok is this Kiwi scribe......but noooooo....has to be a shitfight
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Sards wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:31 pm Oh my word.

You lot are so confused

I see the Kiwis are just sitting back and watching the usual bullshit carry on.

It's already established at the beginning of the conversation that there is a team and the rest is just for this kind of bullshit speculation. I never realized that posting that a Kiwi scribe thought our boks are " toppies " would upset so many.

What should be discussed is.....who the vok is this Kiwi scribe......but noooooo....has to be a shitfight
We are discussing team selection. We are doing this because we are interested in the team in the lead-up to a RWC.

Not because you or a random Kiwi are trolling us.
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He found reverse gear guys, watch out behind him. He's backpaddling faster than the speed of sound.
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average joe wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:25 pm I'm beginning to think I've rediscovered YMX's twins.
Must say the Barret and specially Whitelock brothers look also suspicious.
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average joe wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:36 pm He found reverse gear guys, watch out behind him. He's backpaddling faster than the speed of sound.
I am so deep in your head your balls tingle everytime I post.
Worst thing is I don't give a shit about your stalking. It is amusing tho. Slightly
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Sards wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:31 pmI see the Kiwis are just sitting back and watching the usual bullshit carry on.
You can hardly blame us bro, nobody's tasted proper comedy till they've tried a Saffer roast...
Sards wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:03 pmI am so deep in your head your balls tingle everytime I post.
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Gumboot wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:07 am
Sards wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:31 pmI see the Kiwis are just sitting back and watching the usual bullshit carry on.
You can hardly blame us bro, nobody's tasted proper comedy till they've tried a Saffer roast...
Sards wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:03 pmI am so deep in your head your balls tingle everytime I post.
Dude. I am a toppie now. I don't have energy to amuse myself with drols that think that taking on old sards is going to make them an internet hard man
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Sards wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:31 pm

I see the Kiwis are just sitting back and watching the usual bullshit carry on.


What should be discussed is.....who the vok is this Kiwi scribe......but noooooo....has to be a shitfight
Well it may or may not be the remarks that were made by yourself and Wors that started this......................... :bimbo:
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I'm guessing a toppie is a grandad or something similar? The inference being that your a new, improved, more mature version of your old self... or rather, your old persona.

And good for you, bro. Nothing to prove from my end...

Regards from an old PR acquaintance.
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Known troll post's nonsense on innerwebs forum.
Gets called on his stupidity.

Troll backtracks and attempts to change the subject.
No one falls for it.

"They're all after me, I'm in their heads. I'm the master troll"

Troll exposes himself to be a moronic idiot with small peepee syndrome.
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average joe wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:27 am Known troll post's nonsense on innerwebs forum.
Gets called on his stupidity.

Troll backtracks and attempts to change the subject.
No one falls for it.

"They're all after me, I'm in their heads. I'm the master troll"

Troll exposes himself to be a moronic idiot with small peepee syndrome.
Give it a vokken break man.....you are starting to get annoying.....go to the Saffer thread if you want to make a name for yourself.....p..s
Leave the match threads alone
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Thats rich coming from you since you're the one who started posting utter rubbish on a 4-day old match thread. I don't need your approval to post, and I won't have you tell me were to post, you of all can go get fucked.
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Fuck know we need reconditioning time before the WC. Poster burn out on the horizon. :lol:
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:42 pm Fuck know we need reconditioning time before the WC. Poster burn out on the horizon. :lol:
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I know this will upset some Aussies and Saffers, but the RGs really know how to do this shit

And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:57 pm I know this will upset some Aussies and Saffers, but the RGs really know how to do this shit

No offence, they know their parilla. Best sausage I have ever eaten was in Argentina. Pork meat, that is.
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Quality beef. Saffers (or anyone else for that matter) don't braai thick steaks like that! Yum yum.
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