And that was worth yellow?
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No but there was about 48 penalties before that. Some of them deserved.
Berry had given about 87 penalties against Scotland before that and he kept warning about another one.
He also warned Jamie Ritchie about penalties in the 22 after Price was sent off so he was looking to bin anther Scottish player
What pisses me off, and I really don't like whingeing about referees, is that Darge was penalised for being too long in the ruck, and that was very debatable, but France got away with the same thing soon after.
It's fine if the refs are consistent for both sides.
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It was since Sco were on a warning after racking up almost double figures in pens.

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I had just managed to expunge that from my mind. Thanks.Blackmac wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:52 pm Nice to see a proper game of rugby after that shitshow this afternoon.

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Even without the warning, not retreating 10 and making a tackle is often met with a yellow.
Completely agreeTichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:57 pm
What pisses me off, and I really don't like whingeing about referees, is that Darge was penalised for being too long in the ruck, and that was very debatable, but France got away with the same thing soon after.
It's fine if the refs are consistent for both sides.
The lineout maul penalty against Ritchie was infuriating which led to a few other penalties.Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:57 pm
What pisses me off, and I really don't like whingeing about referees, is that Darge was penalised for being too long in the ruck, and that was very debatable, but France got away with the same thing soon after.
It's fine if the refs are consistent for both sides.
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Now that IS heads up rugby.
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Half time talk seems to have worked for Les Blancs
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Kinghorn should have put the kick into the stand. Oh well
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FFS, the English can't even make balls now, let alone play with them (Marler aside).
Very difficult at that angle unless he was going for 20m gain.And 1 guest wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:12 pm Kinghorn should have put the kick into the stand. Oh well
Yeah, but harsh, it was a stunning kick and he was let down by the chasersBig D wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:13 pmVery difficult at that angle unless he was going for 20m gain.And 1 guest wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:12 pm Kinghorn should have put the kick into the stand. Oh well
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You'll need to explain in what way it is superior please, to when you were denying that Scotland played heads up rugby scoring the opening try.
Note that much of the chat has migrated elsewhere because of the inane nature of some of your earlier contributions.
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Lard Arse's first contribution is to blow a great position with a needless free kick. 

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I think you and J2M have difficulty in understanding what heads up is. It is making the most of situations by making the right decisions. The fact that Sco have been running everything from everywhere does not constitute heads up: it means they play attacking rugby regardless.charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:18 pmYou'll need to explain in what way it is superior please, to when you were denying that Scotland played heads up rugby scoring the opening try.
Note that much of the chat has migrated elsewhere because of the inane nature of some of your earlier contributions.
Note the commentators picking up on Sco NOT playing the right (heads up again) rugby when down to 14.
By contrast, Fra do not run from everywhere but have (twice now) caught Sco with lazy running from a long kick.
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Ntamack off Fra's chances just went up. 

Like Finn spotting the overlap and moving play that way for Scotland to score the first try? Which is where this absurd argument startedTorquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:23 pmI think you and J2M have difficulty in understanding what heads up is. It is making the most of situations by making the right decisions. The fact that Sco have been running everything from everywhere does not constitute heads up: it means they play attacking rugby regardless.charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:18 pmYou'll need to explain in what way it is superior please, to when you were denying that Scotland played heads up rugby scoring the opening try.
Note that much of the chat has migrated elsewhere because of the inane nature of some of your earlier contributions.
Note the commentators picking up on Sco NOT playing the right (heads up again) rugby when down to 14.
By contrast, Fra do not run from everywhere but have (twice now) caught Sco with lazy running from a long kick.
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Lard Arse walking back to cover there and he's only been on 10 minutes.
Except Scotland don't simply "run everything". But they have repeatedly been explicitly prevented from taking a quick throw a few times, while France have repeatedly been allowed to, even when Scotland players are right there.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:23 pmI think you and J2M have difficulty in understanding what heads up is. It is making the most of situations by making the right decisions. The fact that Sco have been running everything from everywhere does not constitute heads up: it means they play attacking rugby regardless.charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:18 pmYou'll need to explain in what way it is superior please, to when you were denying that Scotland played heads up rugby scoring the opening try.
Note that much of the chat has migrated elsewhere because of the inane nature of some of your earlier contributions.
Note the commentators picking up on Sco NOT playing the right (heads up again) rugby when down to 14.
By contrast, Fra do not run from everywhere but have (twice now) caught Sco with lazy running from a long kick.
Oh and did Scotland not play the "right rugby" last week with 14 players?
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Lard Arse misses the tackle FFS.
Heads-up rugby is simply playing what's in front of you, not sticking religiously to what the game plan demands. It doesn't mean always making the right decision; players can play heads-up rugby but still make the wrong call or make an error. It simply means the immediate situation dictates your actions, not the playbook.
I'm not even there so how can I miss a tackle?
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Kerrist you are thick.charltom wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:35 pm Oh and did Scotland not play the "right rugby" last week with 14 players?
As I pointed out to Blackmac at 1/2 time last week, Sco were still in the game if they played any structured rugby. So yes, that was the "right rugby" but that's not heads up rugby. It was just desisting playing dumb rugby, or no no rugby at all.