Libya Floods

[assfly]

5,300 dead already, and many more to come

More than 5,300 bodies have been counted in Libya's flood-hit city of Derna so far, a minister for Libya's eastern administration tells the Reuters news agency.

Hichem Abu Chkiouat, minister of civil aviation, says the number of dead is expected to rise, and may even double.

I'm struggling to get my head around that. Thousands of people dead, just like that.

[Slick]

It's absolutely awful. I saw one spokesman saying this morning that they suspect there are tens of thousands buried in the mud

[Kiwias]

A report on Al Jazeera commented that the amount of rain in the last 24 hours was more than the total rainfall over the last 40 years. Hardly surprising that two dams both collapsed under the weight

[SaintK]

A report on Al Jazeera commented that the amount of rain in the last 24 hours was more than the total rainfall over the last 40 years. Hardly surprising that two dams both collapsed under the weight

That is astonishing.
I wonder what the climate change deniers wil put it down to

[Slick]

A report on Al Jazeera commented that the amount of rain in the last 24 hours was more than the total rainfall over the last 40 years. Hardly surprising that two dams both collapsed under the weight

That is astonishing.
I wonder what the climate change deniers wil put it down to

Well, I'd imagine corruption and lack of maintenance were fairly big factors as well, to be fair. In saying that, if that statement is correct, there probably isn't much that could have helped.

[Tichtheid]

A report on Al Jazeera commented that the amount of rain in the last 24 hours was more than the total rainfall over the last 40 years. Hardly surprising that two dams both collapsed under the weight

That is astonishing.
I wonder what the climate change deniers wil put it down to

Well, I'd imagine corruption and lack of maintenance were fairly big factors as well, to be fair. In saying that, if that statement is correct, there probably isn't much that could have helped.

As more of these weather catastrophes happen it must become apparent to even the most intransigent climate change deniers that the only thing that can be done is to try to avoid things becoming worse and that means taking action now.

[Slick]

That is astonishing.
I wonder what the climate change deniers wil put it down to

Well, I'd imagine corruption and lack of maintenance were fairly big factors as well, to be fair. In saying that, if that statement is correct, there probably isn't much that could have helped.

As more of these weather catastrophes happen it must become apparent to even the most intransigent climate change deniers that the only thing that can be done is to try to avoid things becoming worse and that means taking action now.

You'd certainly hope so. I just don't understand the folk, particularly the ones on social media, who will try throwing out the most bizarre "reasons" rather then just looking at the obvious ones. What really annoys me though is those that are against even the most basic measures, such as LTN's - what on earth is wrong with making the air cleaner even if you don't agree with the bigger picture!

[Hal Jordan]

They had a man on the radio this morning who said that he and his extended family all lived in the houses next to each other in a single block, and after the floods came through 30 of his relatives are missing. I have a large extended family and the thought that most of them would be carried off in one fell swoop is horrendous.

[sockwithaticket]

Well, I'd imagine corruption and lack of maintenance were fairly big factors as well, to be fair. In saying that, if that statement is correct, there probably isn't much that could have helped.

As more of these weather catastrophes happen it must become apparent to even the most intransigent climate change deniers that the only thing that can be done is to try to avoid things becoming worse and that means taking action now.

You'd certainly hope so. I just don't understand the folk, particularly the ones on social media, who will try throwing out the most bizarre "reasons" rather then just looking at the obvious ones. What really annoys me though is those that are against even the most basic measures, such as LTN's - what on earth is wrong with making the air cleaner even if you don't agree with the bigger picture!

People start attaching their whole identity to this contrarian nonsense. Even ever so slightly backing down on something doesn't just bring the feeling everyone hates of having to concede being wrong over something you've stridently supported, but tugs forcefully at the jenga blocks that make the foundations of their persona and worldview.

[assfly]

They're saying it could hit 20 000 dead

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... death-toll

[inactionman]

They had a man on the radio this morning who said that he and his extended family all lived in the houses next to each other in a single block, and after the floods came through 30 of his relatives are missing. I have a large extended family and the thought that most of them would be carried off in one fell swoop is horrendous.

It's just gut-wrenching, the sheer scale, randomness and rapidity of it.

Your whole family go to bed safe and sound, and then this happens and you never see them again. Awful.

[Torquemada 1420]

Libya is a mess post Gaddafi.

Notionally country split in 2 factions
- mad mullahs in the East
- military in the West
but it's all warlords within each. Not quite Mujahidin levels. Plus all the oil money is being corrupted away.

This might be in excess of 10,000 dead.

[LoveOfTheGame]

They're saying it could hit 20 000 dead

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... death-toll

That's horrific.