RWCR2 Uruguay - France Thursday 21 PM CET

[laurent]

Thursday 14th 21 PM CET

French squad announced more or less now.

[SaintK]

Thursday 14th 21 PM CET

French squad announced more or less now.

This will be one of several very one sided matches this round!

[laurent]

Yes it's a bit of a mismatch round

[Torquemada 1420]

Yes it's a bit of a mismatch round

Not even going to bother watching most of it.

[laurent]

Bump for the blind kiwi

[Ymx]

I dotted the thread for you

[laurent]

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[sockwithaticket]

Thursday 14th 21 PM CET

French squad announced more or less now.

This will be one of several very one sided matches this round!

I know there are a lot of people (not necessarily on here) who advocate for exapanding the World Cup, but the minnow vs. tier 1 matches last weekend have only hardened my resolve that it's a dumb idea. I doubt this one, South Africa vs. Romania or New Zealand vs. Namibia are going to do much to change that opinion.

[Torquemada 1420]

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Can't spell Tao. Poor man's Boucherie!

Going to a concert tonight instead. I think it will be more interesting. Might watch on catch up at w/e.

[Torquemada 1420]

Thursday 14th 21 PM CET

French squad announced more or less now.

This will be one of several very one sided matches this round!

I know there are a lot of people (not necessarily on here) who advocate for exapanding the World Cup, but the minnow vs. tier 1 matches last weekend have only hardened my resolve that it's a dumb idea. I doubt this one, South Africa vs. Romania or New Zealand vs. Namibia are going to do much to change that opinion.

There should be a Tier 2 comp for sides (Plate, whatever) for the sides that fall at 1st round.

[laurent]

Alternate French squad



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Can't spell Tao. Poor man's Boucherie!

Going to a concert tonight instead. I think it will be more interesting. Might watch on catch up at w/e.

Try listening to lapinou saying a PI name then think again.

[Tichtheid]

There should be a Tier 2 comp for sides (Plate, whatever) for the sides that fall at 1st round.

That would have put France out of the main competition at their last home RWC, South Africa would have been out at the first hurdle last time, when they won it, and the time before that

[Sandstorm]

There should be a Tier 2 comp for sides (Plate, whatever) for the sides that fall at 1st round.

That would have put France out of the main competition at their last home RWC, South Africa would have been out at the first hurdle last time, when they won it, and the time before that

Mate. He means if you don’t make the 1/4 finals. Not lose your opening match.

[Tichtheid]

There should be a Tier 2 comp for sides (Plate, whatever) for the sides that fall at 1st round.

That would have put France out of the main competition at their last home RWC, South Africa would have been out at the first hurdle last time, when they won it, and the time before that

Mate. He means if you don’t make the 1/4 finals. Not lose your opening match.

It may have been helpful if he'd written what he meant.

[sockwithaticket]

This will be one of several very one sided matches this round!

I know there are a lot of people (not necessarily on here) who advocate for exapanding the World Cup, but the minnow vs. tier 1 matches last weekend have only hardened my resolve that it's a dumb idea. I doubt this one, South Africa vs. Romania or New Zealand vs. Namibia are going to do much to change that opinion.

There should be a Tier 2 comp for sides (Plate, whatever) for the sides that fall at 1st round.

Probably less of a big deal now with domestic competitions insisting on fewer foreigners, but I suspect the clubs would have objected to that not so long ago. The Prem and Top14 sides getting a raft of Islanders and Georgians plus the odd Yank or Canuck back in the sides after the pool stages was relatively important for league performance while other international stars were away.

The bigger blocker would probably be union finances. It's not cheap for the likes of Samoa or Portugal to pony up for the travel, accommodation and facilities of a full rugby squad plus support personnel and equipment.

[Torquemada 1420]

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Can't spell Tao. Poor man's Boucherie!

Going to a concert tonight instead. I think it will be more interesting. Might watch on catch up at w/e.

Try listening to lapinou saying a PI name then think again.

Ahh. I see.

[TheFrog]

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[sockwithaticket]

France B not doing much to improve their standing in the selection pecking order against plucky Uruguay.

[OomStruisbaai]

Was a bid shocked when I saw the score.

[tc27]

Enjoyed watching Uruguay..three (well two) great tries.

Wonder if the lack of BP will cost France

[sockwithaticket]

Congrats, Uruguay. Says a lot about how much trouble they were giving France that big guns like Aldritt were brought on before the 50 minute mark and it still didn't make a huge amount of difference.

A very spirited performance with much to be proud of. Shame they couldn't rely on their lineout when they kicked penalties to touch.

[OomStruisbaai]

French depth?

[laurent]

That was painful to watch

Dumb all through the match.

[sockwithaticket]

French depth?

Not good, apparently.

[Tichtheid]

Wonder if the lack of BP will cost France

Someone else said that on the other thread.

If France beat Italy and Namibia with just straight four point wins they will be on 16. New Zealand can't catch them with three BP wins as that puts them on 15.

Italy are similar, if they lose to France but get a BP and get two more BP wins (including over NZ) they could top France, but it's unlikely

[Grandpa]

Surely a citing coming up for that abominable bunker non-red?

[laurent]

Surely a citing coming up for that abominable bunker non-red?

Falling player and arm in front ? it's going nowhere

[Grandpa]

Surely a citing coming up for that abominable bunker non-red?

Falling player and arm in front ? it's going nowhere

No change in height.. no mitigation.. even the French on the PR thread think it's a stone cold red... all of them... no dissenters...

His height does not change have a look...

[sockwithaticket]

I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.

[Grandpa]

I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.

Because it's France? If that was a Uruguay player...

[Raggs]

I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.

The arm wasn't tucked. Look at the upper arm, it's out wide, the forearm is still coming up, but that's never a tucked arm.

There was a drop in height, not major but it's there, the tackler is also bent kneed and well bent at the waist.

You can check my history on how I view high tackles and often call for reds, but in this case I can see how it stays a yellow.

[sockwithaticket]

I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.

The arm wasn't tucked. Look at the upper arm, it's out wide, the forearm is still coming up, but that's never a tucked arm.

There was a drop in height, not major but it's there, the tackler is also bent kneed and well bent at the waist.

You can check my history on how I view high tackles and often call for reds, but in this case I can see how it stays a yellow.

Ok watched it again. The arm is out, but he's still nowhere close to making a legal tackle, so I stand by saying it should be a red because with it not being a legal tackle mitigations don't apply.

[sockwithaticket]

I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.

Because it's France? If that was a Uruguay player...

Nah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.

[Grandpa]

I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.

Because it's France? If that was a Uruguay player...

Nah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.

And yet it's more red than Tom Curry's... at least there was a change in height with that tackle... as he was coming out the sky...

[fishfoodie]

I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.

Because it's France? If that was a Uruguay player...

Nah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.

At some stage WR will have to respond to the accusations that it's screwing the tier 2/3 teams in decisions; & they'll probably do it when the consequences are minimal to the tier 1 side; like this !

[sockwithaticket]

Because it's France? If that was a Uruguay player...

Nah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.

And yet it's more red than Tom Curry's... at least there was a change in height with that tackle... as he was coming out the sky...

I find Curry's completely inexcusable. If looking to tackle someone as soon as they come down from catching a ball, you have no reason to be standing straight and smashing their face with yours..

[Slick]

Because it's France? If that was a Uruguay player...

Nah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.

And yet it's more red than Tom Curry's... at least there was a change in height with that tackle... as he was coming out the sky...

I agree, think it was the reddest so far. Tucked arm, straight to the head.

My biggest fear is that players on the end of it jumping up and not making a big deal of it are influencing the decision - see also the Kriel hit. We are already getting into the situation of players rolling about to get it looked at and things like this just make it worse. It’s shit.

On another note, well done Uruguay! Those backs looked dangerous and 9 & 12 looked like serious players. They did very well in the the last WC if I remember correctly so another country WR should be throwing cash at.

[Slick]

Because it's France? If that was a Uruguay player...

Nah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.

At some stage WR will have to respond to the accusations that it's screwing the tier 2/3 teams in decisions; & they'll probably do it when the consequences are minimal to the tier 1 side; like this !

To be fair, I thought the ref on the pitch was very good and fair tonight.

I don’t like the TMO being able to start conversations with the ref telling him her wrong like happened a few times tonight. It’s very quickly getting to the stage where the TMO is making all the big calls

[Grandpa]

Nah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.

And yet it's more red than Tom Curry's... at least there was a change in height with that tackle... as he was coming out the sky...

I agree, think it was the reddest so far. Tucked arm, straight to the head.

My biggest fear is that players on the end of it jumping up and not making a big deal of it are influencing the decision - see also the Kriel hit. We are already getting into the situation of players rolling about to get it looked at and things like this just make it worse. It’s shit.

On another note, well done Uruguay! Those backs looked dangerous and 9 & 12 looked like serious players. They did very well in the the last WC if I remember correctly so another country WR should be throwing cash at.

Uruguay were tremendous! A bit more luck and they could have won! Some of their play was top notch.. that second try was class...

[LenCohen]

One of the best ever performances by a minnow in a world cup and most of the thread is filled with red card debate. Who actually gives a fuck!