RWCR3 Wales vs Wallabies 24/9 @ 21h00

[C69]

Humiliation now

[Guy Smiley]

The shit eating grin on Gatland

[boere wors]

wales on the road to the final?

[Biffer]

This is a nadir for aussie rugby surely. Only way is up.

They said that after Scotland put 50 past them.

[ASMO]

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[Gumboot]

Well done on a record win, Wales. Executed the game plan to perfection.

Australian rugby in disarray. How long is Eddie's contract for again? Fucking muppets. Heads must roll.

[Torquemada 1420]

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No love for Tasmania?

[TB63]

Well played Aus...

[ASMO]

Guarantee Eddie is going to says its all his fault

[TB63]

He's going to blame Wales for breaking the 20 mph speed limit next...

[Torquemada 1420]

He's going to blame Wales for breaking the 20 mph speed limit next...

Did I miss that play?

[Torquemada 1420]

Gregan looks like he's about to cry.

[C69]

First team to qualify
Gats loves Wales and Wales love Gats
Chicken was

[ScarfaceClaw]

Gregan looks like he's about to cry.

Four more years George. Four. More. Years.

[Jethro]

I almost feel sorry for the whole of Australia as a result of this.

Almost. I wonder where that Deepsouth poster is right now?

Actually most of Australia don't give a Rats, radio this morning is all about how the Broncos can stop Penrith in their tracks Of course the rest of the Country are pretty much AFL rusted on.

[C69]

Who was motm?

[TB63]

My son is cursing me ATM, he's in Melbourne and hadn't seen the game yet..

But going to work in a Welsh shirt anyway...

[laurent]

Who was motm?

Biggar's shoulder

[C69]

Pretty much an utter manshaming
Oz can fuck off home, and sack EJ

[Line6 HXFX]

Wales may again make it to a Rugby World Cup semi, and again with all the world's media and youtube rugby pundits and the entire internet shitting on them.


We are the Nick Tompkins of international rugby teams....with Nick Tompkins

[petej]

Wales may again make it to a Rugby World Cup semi, and again with all the world's media and youtube rugby pundits and the entire internet shitting on them.


We are the Nick Tompkins of international rugby teams....with Nick Tompkins

The person who really didn't rate Tompkins was Eddie Jones.

[Fonz]

Looking at the outstanding matches in Pool C, there’s a fairly decent chance this ends up being the most lopsided result in the group.

[_Os_]

[_Os_]

Jones has a strong mad CEO vibe, lots of hubris and entitlement going on. He's like a CEO that's had some success and ends up thinking they're omnipotent and can bend reality to their will (Jobs and Musk obvious examples). He really thought he could select whoever, decide they could win the RWC, and that would work. They've only got a scrappy win against Georgia so far. It doesn't follow that the more "pain" a side goes through the better they'll be, would these players have learned more with Hooper and Cooper leading them or not? Sacrificing a RWC on the promise a group of players will be the best at the next RWC, maybe, but even if Jones has been a good talent scout they'll need to be well coached at some point.

I've watched all the Bok pressers, they're totally different. If Bok coaches were talking about purposely putting the team through "pain" and this being good, most would think they've gone totally mad. Even the stuff about post-RWC jobs, Nienaber has been open cards about moving to Leinster.

[Guy Smiley]

There's a telling moment late in that clip from the Australian press conference where the camera briefly shows Pohecki's look of disbelief when Jones is asked about the 'experiment failing' and he replies with 'I can't really judge on that'... here it is at 12.50 in



I'd say he's lost the locker room. Players interviewed around this game have referred to being in the 'bubble' and not consuming media, to being focussed and unaware of what's going on outside the team environment. I reckon that bubble has popped and it's all over bar the shouting.

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Rugby reporters around the world have hit out at Eddie Jones with the Wallabies on the brink of a humiliating Rugby World Cup exit.

The record 40-6 loss to Wales in Lyon on Monday was the two-time World Cup winners’ worst in the tournament history and almost certainly consigns them to a first-ever exit after the group stages.

Despite being dropped for the World Cup, former Wallabies captain Michael Hooper urged people “not to have a crack at Eddie’’, but Australian and European rugby critics haven’t held back.

Oliver Brown, a columnist for the London-based Telegraph, slammed Jones as “out of touch, out of luck, out of time’’ and said it would be “unconscionable’’ to allow him to carry on.

“Eddie Jones has been a roguish constant in test rugby for over 20 years, turning himself into a one-man vaudeville act with his lethal tongue and rapier wit. Except nobody is laughing any longer, least of all Australia.

“The 63-year-old sweet-talked his way back into the Wallabies job on the pretext that his country needed his Solomonic wisdom to succeed. Eight months later he has guided this team only to rank humiliation, with a first World Cup pool-stage exit in their history on the cards. Belatedly, his compatriots think they have been duped by someone who has talked a far better game than he has delivered.”

“Forget all the flannel that he could yet turn Australia into world-beaters in 2027. In eight test matches he has contrived only to beat Georgia, with that miserable sequence reaching its most vivid expression with this capitulation to a Wales side who could scarcely believe the flimsy resistance. “We’ll beat Wales,” he had declared, with an impish smile. Who was he kidding? In taking this £400,000-a-year job straight after his sacking by the Rugby Football Union, this diminutive dictator has been trading on nothing more than blind faith.”

Brown said Jones’ record should be “grounds for Hamish McLennan, chairman of Rugby Australia, to dismiss him, however seduced he might have been by Jones’ cult of personality”.

“But now it is reported that Jones has been seeking alternative employment with Japan behind the scenes – a story he was furious to be asked about, but did not deny – he should be dispatched on the first flight to Tokyo without delay.”
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The Sydney Morning Herald’s Tom Decent wrote: “The Eddie Jones experiment can officially be declared a disaster after the Wallabies all but crashed out of the World Cup in record-breaking fashion”.

He said the Wallabies were “humiliated and outclassed’’ by Wales, who “continued their perfect record’’ with their third win to clinch a quarterfinal place.

Decent homed in on Jones’ coaching nadir occurring “just hours after [the Sydney Morning Herald] revealed he’d had a job interview with Japan last month.

Jones has refused to discuss the claim and Rugby Australia chief executive Phil Waugh is still backing him, but Sonny Bill Williams felt if any talks had been held it could have been unsettling for players.

“From a player’s point of view, I’m not following a guy that’s sitting having a meeting with another national team, potentially looking for another job days before you are hopping on the plane [to the World Cup],” Jones, a Stan Sport commentator, said.

McLennan’s own role in recruiting Jones is also likely to come under scrutiny.

Former England international Andy Goode wrote on social media: “Whoever sacked Dave Rennie and employed Eddie Jones at the Wallabies needs to walk and take Eddie with him!”

Former England and British and Irish Lions flyhalf Stuart Barnes said “Lyon represented a new low’’ for Australia, “a country where rugby union has long played back-up to rugby league and Aussie rules football”.


“Eddie Jones's team came into the test with six losses in seven matches, bruised egos and battered confidence, not to mention rumours of the head coach's clandestine negotiations with Japan. Australia were at an all-time World Cup low before kick-off. They tumbled into the world of the abject.”

Gerard O’Meagher, writing in The Guardian, said the loss to his “old sparring partner Warren Gatland’’ would “hammer home the extent of it’’ and “only deepen the wounds’' for Jones.

“By the end of this humiliation, the Wallabies had long since thrown in the towel, Wales playing out a glorified training session.

“The only previous time Jones has failed to make it out of the pool stage at a World Cup was in 2015, when he was Japan’s head coach. It was a tournament that changed the course of his career, and you wonder if history will repeat itself eight years on.”

[Ymx]

This part is pathetic of Eddie



Asked if he did Japan interview, replies like a child “I don’t know anything about that”. What kind of ridiculous childish pathetic response is that. Then threatens to walk out.

[Stranger]

Another game where the organisers have failed to man the turnstiles properly, pathetic

I was there last night and saw no problems a all.

[C69]

Wales fecked now Chicken is not fit

I was wrong very wrong

[C69]

Wales may again make it to a Rugby World Cup semi, and again with all the world's media and youtube rugby pundits and the entire internet shitting on them.


We are the Nick Tompkins of international rugby teams....with Nick Tompkins

That's a fantasy in your head. The vast majority said you would reach a semi. It was the draw that was a disgrace. We didn't factor in the digout that Carley would give you but that's Wales and that's on us

Now now ER you have crossed a line.
You are a lunatic

[C69]

I wish some of the neutrals would actually give Wales some credit.
Gats has turned this bunch of rag tag nobodies around.
A semi final place a possibility with an inevitable bumming from Ireland on the cards.
Just happy to be at the knockout stages.
Unlike the gash Scots

[boere wors]

I wish some of the neutrals would actually give Wales some credit.
Gats has turned this bunch of rag tag nobodies around.
A semi final place a possibility with an inevitable bumming from Ireland on the cards.
Just happy to be at the knockout stages.
Unlike the gash Scots

I wrote above that Wales is on the way to the final. Easy QF coming up, they will be set up nicely for a surprise in the semi against NZ.

[OomStruisbaai]

I wish some of the neutrals would actually give Wales some credit.
Gats has turned this bunch of rag tag nobodies around.
A semi final place a possibility with an inevitable bumming from Ireland on the cards.
Just happy to be at the knockout stages.
Unlike the gash Scots

I wrote above that Wales is on the way to the final. Easy QF coming up, they will be set up nicely for a surprise in the semi against NZ.

Ditto England. They do their stuff quietly.

[Guy Smiley]

Wales fecked now Chicken is not fit

I was wrong very wrong

We're used to it now.

[boere wors]

I wish some of the neutrals would actually give Wales some credit.
Gats has turned this bunch of rag tag nobodies around.
A semi final place a possibility with an inevitable bumming from Ireland on the cards.
Just happy to be at the knockout stages.
Unlike the gash Scots

I wrote above that Wales is on the way to the final. Easy QF coming up, they will be set up nicely for a surprise in the semi against NZ.

Ditto England. They do their stuff quietly.

Absolutely, England are also playing themselves in form

[Torquemada 1420]

This is a nadir for aussie rugby surely. Only way is up.

Here: this covers some of it
https://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id ... eath-knell

[C69]

Wales fecked now Chicken is not fit

I was wrong very wrong

We're used to it now.

You lot are blind utterly blind and in the land of the blind the one eyed man is the King.
I am Cyclopian at times.

[dpedin]

Wales are very fit, very organised and very motivated and have some very good players. They play a very structured game and do it well. Bigger going off and Anscome coming on was probably a blessing in disguise for them, he is a far more expansive player and got the Welsh backs onto the front foot.

However the opposite was true of the Aussies - they were just awful. No organisation, no game plan, poor skill sets, no confidence and looked desperately forlorn after 20 minutes. Their pack was murdered, their half backs were rabbits in the headlights and their backs disjointed. Anyone on this forum could have predicted the Welsh game plan but the Aussies didn't seem to have a feckin clue how to play against them. I have never seen an Aussie team play so badly and who were so poorly coached and motivated. Eddie shouldn't go back to Australia, he should head straight to Japan after the RWC otherwise he will be lynched. He took a huge feckin gamble by ditching some experienced players from the squad and then not selecting those he took, he threw some poor young guys into the game and they struggled. His gamble backfired but tbh I dont think he gives a shit and he is off to a big pay check. I suspect there will now be all sorts of stories coming out of the squad complaining about his management approach and how badly he has treated some players.

Wales are in the 1/4 and will likely make it to the 1/2 but their strengths are also their limitations against the better teams they will face.

[OomStruisbaai]

What happened to our Deep South friend?

[C69]

Wales are very fit, very organised and very motivated and have some very good players. They play a very structured game and do it well. Bigger going off and Anscome coming on was probably a blessing in disguise for them, he is a far more expansive player and got the Welsh backs onto the front foot.

However the opposite was true of the Aussies - they were just awful. No organisation, no game plan, poor skill sets, no confidence and looked desperately forlorn after 20 minutes. Their pack was murdered, their half backs were rabbits in the headlights and their backs disjointed. Anyone on this forum could have predicted the Welsh game plan but the Aussies didn't seem to have a feckin clue how to play against them. I have never seen an Aussie team play so badly and who were so poorly coached and motivated. Eddie shouldn't go back to Australia, he should head straight to Japan after the RWC otherwise he will be lynched. He took a huge feckin gamble by ditching some experienced players from the squad and then not selecting those he took, he threw some poor young guys into the game and they struggled. His gamble backfired but tbh I dont think he gives a shit and he is off to a big pay check. I suspect there will now be all sorts of stories coming out of the squad complaining about his management approach and how badly he has treated some players.

Wales are in the 1/4 and will likely make it to the 1/2 but their strengths are also their limitations against the better teams they will face.

Very good summation of the situation. I was worried that Anscombe was not fit and had too little game time. Boy was I wrong. That was perhaps Wales most complete performance for 10 years.
Can't see them losing to the Argies or Japan but they would get bummed by Ireland in the Semi

[Slick]

I wish some of the neutrals would actually give Wales some credit.
Gats has turned this bunch of rag tag nobodies around.
A semi final place a possibility with an inevitable bumming from Ireland on the cards.
Just happy to be at the knockout stages.
Unlike the gash Scots

That's a shame. I was happy to go along with you for a bit of that and then you spoilt it. Wales have done well in the Tier 2 competition but would get splatted across the park by 3, maybe 4, of the teams in the Tier 1 competition we are in.