Stop voting for fucking Tories

[geordie_6]

None of these were government policy...

It just makes me think he’s even more of a cunt than many others. You know he doesn’t believe this bullshit himself

He's just doing what his/his wife's pals tell him, or maybe the Saudi oil interests we seem beholden to as a country.

[dpedin]

None of these were government policy...

It just makes me think he’s even more of a cunt than many others. You know he doesn’t believe this bullshit himself

He's just doing what his/his wife's pals tell him, or maybe the Saudi oil interests we seem beholden to as a country.

This is the equivalent of Brussels banning the British Banger, Turkey joining the EU, Boat people invasion, no barriers in the Oirish Sea, etc. All complete bullshit the Tories were happy to send out to frighten the good old UK public and fight off the woke, avocado eating, dinner partying, elite, leftie lawyer commies. However Seven Bins Sunak seems to have been found out on this one - the Head of Admin UK seems to have been found out. Sooner the fucker goes the better.

[geordie_6]

It just makes me think he’s even more of a cunt than many others. You know he doesn’t believe this bullshit himself

He's just doing what his/his wife's pals tell him, or maybe the Saudi oil interests we seem beholden to as a country.

This is the equivalent of Brussels banning the British Banger, Turkey joining the EU, Boat people invasion, no barriers in the Oirish Sea, etc. All complete bullshit the Tories were happy to send out to frighten the good old UK public and fight off the woke, avocado eating, dinner partying, elite, leftie lawyer commies. However Seven Bins Sunak seems to have been found out on this one - the Head of Admin UK seems to have been found out. Sooner the fucker goes the better.

Sadly, he seems to be with us until the General Election at least. And hopefully, on the back of this anti-environment bollocks, Labour are contacting the car manufacturers and saying "sit tight, we'll revert this nonsense when we come in".

Its an excellent way for the Tories to put businesses off investing in the UK. No consistency, no stability, just hot air and cruelty.

[Line6 HXFX]

I mean if it was up to pensioners the poor would all be in work camps, the young would all be in National service, homosexuality and being black or brown would be illegal, the disabled and sick would all be forced to work..and we would be invading France.

Right wing Pensioner numbers are rising massively, and Britian has never been a nation for the young anyway.
Think as people approach death (after 55) they get more Christian Conservative..


My solution. I implore all of Britain's young to move to Wales and Scotland. It is the only way progressive politics and your interests will be satisfied in the U.K. democratically. Even the telegraph is telling you to move out of the country, You will never outvote pensioners in England...the voting pensioner will never give you a progressive government...so leave them to their hell scape.

Hey we all tried to change pensioners minds or tried to get them to vote remain regarding brexit..how many of us were successful?

Leave England to the old and the charlatans that prey on them.

Do fuck off somewhere else you monumental loon!

Please provide evidence for all this shit you are spouting, or is this plucked from your completely warped imagination? You and Boris Johnson/Truss etc are a lot alike, live in your own little reality that is devoid of anything to do with reality itself.

What the actually fuck? Lee Anderson want the poor to work in work camps and tents..look it up. National service is seen as the panacea of all Britain's ills, look it up, pensioners have massive political power over the young, sick and unemployed, in the u.k. and their triple lock actually costs lives and a massive amount of cash.. ..look it up and the right wing are recomending anyone young leaves the country...look it up oh and they really really wantbthe sick to work..again look it up.
I am not a monumental loon, this is the UK., today. I am explaining it as is...and only offered a solution, which is basically abandon the resentarted, addicted to resenta'tainmented English old, and move to Wales and Scotland , and create a kind, progressive government.

Hey if you have another better idea..go for it. I will patiently read it and not throw out a single word of abuse.

I am not responsible for your political ignorance and reactionary anger though...that's all you.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

The young could easily fix much of the disparity by voting. Just how much sympathy should one have for the feckless?

[Sandstorm]

The young could easily fix much of the disparity by voting. Just how much sympathy should one have for the feckless?

Did you look that up?

[Hal Jordan]

Interestingly, it appears that the ZEV Mandate, which will require car makers to have electrified models make up at least 22 per cent of their overall sales from 2024 is still coming into force.

Now, "electrified" is a weasel word, but if you miss the target you get clipped at £15k per vehicle. Given that anecdotally the 5 year rollback is making people think about whether to leave getting an EV (and the deadline also being either ill-researched or wilfully misrepresented in certain quarters as "a total ban in ICE"), a cynic might think some mandarin has hit upon a way to screw an income source out of car companies whose EV demand is suppressed by the announcement.

[Line6 HXFX]

The young could easily fix much of the disparity by voting. Just how much sympathy should one have for the feckless?

35% of the population (which is all you need in a first past the post system) and all the right wing media (thats 90% of all the media in case you were wondering) have England addicted to resenta'tainment and by the bollocks.

England is doomed.

Old, Brexited, resent'tarded, bankrupt and angry.


Come to Wales and Scotland where progressive politics have a hope.

Kier Starmer is just a placater or cunts.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

The young could easily fix much of the disparity by voting. Just how much sympathy should one have for the feckless?

35% of the population (which is all you need in a first past the post system) and all the right wing media (thats 90% of all the media in case you were wondering) have England addicted to resenta'tainment and by the bollocks.

England is doomed.

Old, Brexited, resent'tarded, bankrupt and angry.


Come to Wales and Scotland where progressive politics have a hope.

Kier Starmer is just a placater or cunts.

Wales voted for Brexit, just saying.

It's not so much progressive as an ageing white population living in fear

[Biffer]

After everything else, Sunak seems to have killed the fucking cat as well.

[salanya]

After everything else, Sunak seems to have killed the fucking cat as well.

What??! He killed Larry?

If that doesn't start a revolution and a defenestration then there is no justice in this world.

[sturginho]

It's ok guys, Trump says that Sunaks climate U-turn is smart, I dunno about you but I am reassured

[tabascoboy]

[Hal Jordan]

"I will give the Police free reign to shoot people" is entirely on brand for our Home Secretary.

[fishfoodie]

"I will give the Police free reign to shoot people" is entirely on brand for our Home Secretary.

Well it's the logical progression from trying to give Soldiers immunity from prosecution for murder.

[Blackmac]

"I will give the Police free reign to shoot people" is entirely on brand for our Home Secretary.

That's not really what she said though was it and he knows it.
I personally can't understand the mentality of any cops that volunteers to carry a firearm, especially in somewhere like London where you are likely to use have to use them and place your liberty in the hands of a split second decision in a highly charged situation. A lot of these firearms interactions also seem to start with some very dodgy intelligence that immediately puts them on the back foot. They get no extra pay and no backing when it goes wrong.
Firearms officers in places like Scotland are basically considered useless, workshy lads who prefer swanning about in an ARV with little of no danger to doing everyday police work.

[C69]

Fuck the North...

[dpedin]

"I will give the Police free reign to shoot people" is entirely on brand for our Home Secretary.

That's not really what she said though was it and he knows it.
I personally can't understand the mentality of any cops that volunteers to carry a firearm, especially in somewhere like London where you are likely to use have to use them and place your liberty in the hands of a split second decision in a highly charged situation. A lot of these firearms interactions also seem to start with some very dodgy intelligence that immediately puts them on the back foot. They get no extra pay and no backing when it goes wrong.
Firearms officers in places like Scotland are basically considered useless, workshy lads who prefer swanning about in an ARV with little of no danger to doing everyday police work.

Giving any group of people 'special dispensation' from the law of the land is an extremely slippery slope to go down. I have a lot of admiration and indeed sympathy for the armed police but they cant be held to a different legal standard to everyone else in the land. The guy has been charged and will have to go through the legal process as it stands, suggesting only police don't have to go through this process, or will have a different police only process, is very, very dangerous. We cannot have any group of people who are above the law. Unlike many of our current Government I do have faith in our legal processes and hopefully it will come to the correct result.

[Biffer]

"I will give the Police free reign to shoot people" is entirely on brand for our Home Secretary.

That's not really what she said though was it and he knows it.
I personally can't understand the mentality of any cops that volunteers to carry a firearm, especially in somewhere like London where you are likely to use have to use them and place your liberty in the hands of a split second decision in a highly charged situation. A lot of these firearms interactions also seem to start with some very dodgy intelligence that immediately puts them on the back foot. They get no extra pay and no backing when it goes wrong.
Firearms officers in places like Scotland are basically considered useless, workshy lads who prefer swanning about in an ARV with little of no danger to doing everyday police work.

Giving any group of people 'special dispensation' from the law of the land is an extremely slippery slope to go down. I have a lot of admiration and indeed sympathy for the armed police but they cant be held to a different legal standard to everyone else in the land. The guy has been charged and will have to go through the legal process as it stands, suggesting only police don't have to go through this process, or will have a different police only process, is very, very dangerous. We cannot have any group of people who are above the law. Unlike many of our current Government I do have faith in our legal processes and hopefully it will come to the correct result.

Yeah. The police are a civil force not a military one, and it should stay that way.

[shaggy]

That's not really what she said though was it and he knows it.
I personally can't understand the mentality of any cops that volunteers to carry a firearm, especially in somewhere like London where you are likely to use have to use them and place your liberty in the hands of a split second decision in a highly charged situation. A lot of these firearms interactions also seem to start with some very dodgy intelligence that immediately puts them on the back foot. They get no extra pay and no backing when it goes wrong.
Firearms officers in places like Scotland are basically considered useless, workshy lads who prefer swanning about in an ARV with little of no danger to doing everyday police work.

Giving any group of people 'special dispensation' from the law of the land is an extremely slippery slope to go down. I have a lot of admiration and indeed sympathy for the armed police but they cant be held to a different legal standard to everyone else in the land. The guy has been charged and will have to go through the legal process as it stands, suggesting only police don't have to go through this process, or will have a different police only process, is very, very dangerous. We cannot have any group of people who are above the law. Unlike many of our current Government I do have faith in our legal processes and hopefully it will come to the correct result.

Yeah. The police are a civil force not a military one, and it should stay that way.

There is a very significant difference between police and civilian. Armed police are following orders and are trained in the application of that process, civilians are not.

I think that difference means there is value in looking at whether a different process should be followed for potential prosecution.

[inactionman]

Interestingly, it appears that the ZEV Mandate, which will require car makers to have electrified models make up at least 22 per cent of their overall sales from 2024 is still coming into force.

Now, "electrified" is a weasel word, but if you miss the target you get clipped at £15k per vehicle. Given that anecdotally the 5 year rollback is making people think about whether to leave getting an EV (and the deadline also being either ill-researched or wilfully misrepresented in certain quarters as "a total ban in ICE"), a cynic might think some mandarin has hit upon a way to screw an income source out of car companies whose EV demand is suppressed by the announcement.

Much as I applaud any initiative to get us off fossil fuels, is that completely in the gift of the manufacture? It's the buyer's choice.

THe manufacturer may incentivise the purchase of EVs of whatever ilk, but they can't make people choose those options.

[inactionman]

"I will give the Police free reign to shoot people" is entirely on brand for our Home Secretary.

That's not really what she said though was it and he knows it.
I personally can't understand the mentality of any cops that volunteers to carry a firearm, especially in somewhere like London where you are likely to use have to use them and place your liberty in the hands of a split second decision in a highly charged situation. A lot of these firearms interactions also seem to start with some very dodgy intelligence that immediately puts them on the back foot. They get no extra pay and no backing when it goes wrong.
Firearms officers in places like Scotland are basically considered useless, workshy lads who prefer swanning about in an ARV with little of no danger to doing everyday police work.

Giving any group of people 'special dispensation' from the law of the land is an extremely slippery slope to go down. I have a lot of admiration and indeed sympathy for the armed police but they cant be held to a different legal standard to everyone else in the land. The guy has been charged and will have to go through the legal process as it stands, suggesting only police don't have to go through this process, or will have a different police only process, is very, very dangerous. We cannot have any group of people who are above the law. Unlike many of our current Government I do have faith in our legal processes and hopefully it will come to the correct result.

It is, but you've already given someone legal right* to kill someone in certain circumstances, which is itself a special dispensation. It would make sense to me that you examine those circumstances and the legality of their actions differently.

Not so differently as to allow murder, of course, but it's really not the same situation as joe public picking up a gun and shooting someone.

* I assume it's not a responsibility - they can't prosecute an armed policeman for not shooting someone who then goes on to harm someone else, can they?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Is there a summary somewhere as to what happened with the lad being killed, arguably murdered in the car? Or put another way, does it make sense the police are getting upset about this incident and the charges being brought, or are there wider concerns about the Monday morning quarterbacking of post incident procedures getting conflated into an already upsetting situation?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Fuck the North...

Pfft. Wait for the Charlie Line to connect Old Oak Common into central London to handle the volumes (if the line proves unbelievably unpopular they may call it the Meghan Line, but maybe even the Tories have the wit not to ask the Northern Line to give up its current colour)

[petej]

Interestingly, it appears that the ZEV Mandate, which will require car makers to have electrified models make up at least 22 per cent of their overall sales from 2024 is still coming into force.

Now, "electrified" is a weasel word, but if you miss the target you get clipped at £15k per vehicle. Given that anecdotally the 5 year rollback is making people think about whether to leave getting an EV (and the deadline also being either ill-researched or wilfully misrepresented in certain quarters as "a total ban in ICE"), a cynic might think some mandarin has hit upon a way to screw an income source out of car companies whose EV demand is suppressed by the announcement.

Much as I applaud any initiative to get us off fossil fuels, is that completely in the gift of the manufacture? It's the buyer's choice.

THe manufacturer may incentivise the purchase of EVs of whatever ilk, but they can't make people choose those options.

Once electric cars are cheaper which will likely be in a year or so this will just happen.

[Biffer]

Giving any group of people 'special dispensation' from the law of the land is an extremely slippery slope to go down. I have a lot of admiration and indeed sympathy for the armed police but they cant be held to a different legal standard to everyone else in the land. The guy has been charged and will have to go through the legal process as it stands, suggesting only police don't have to go through this process, or will have a different police only process, is very, very dangerous. We cannot have any group of people who are above the law. Unlike many of our current Government I do have faith in our legal processes and hopefully it will come to the correct result.

Yeah. The police are a civil force not a military one, and it should stay that way.

There is a very significant difference between police and civilian. Armed police are following orders and are trained in the application of that process, civilians are not.

I think that difference means there is value in looking at whether a different process should be followed for potential prosecution.

Yeah, I'm not saying they're civilians, I'm saying they're a civil force not a military one. If there are clear rules of engagement for firearms officers and they are followed, then that should determine whether a prosecution follows. They can't just be exempted from accountability though.

The problem highlighted by police unions about 'years of legal proceedings' is more an indication that the justice system is fucked and it's taking years to get even simple crimes through the courts because of massive underresourcing.

[Hal Jordan]

Interestingly, it appears that the ZEV Mandate, which will require car makers to have electrified models make up at least 22 per cent of their overall sales from 2024 is still coming into force.

Now, "electrified" is a weasel word, but if you miss the target you get clipped at £15k per vehicle. Given that anecdotally the 5 year rollback is making people think about whether to leave getting an EV (and the deadline also being either ill-researched or wilfully misrepresented in certain quarters as "a total ban in ICE"), a cynic might think some mandarin has hit upon a way to screw an income source out of car companies whose EV demand is suppressed by the announcement.

Much as I applaud any initiative to get us off fossil fuels, is that completely in the gift of the manufacture? It's the buyer's choice.

THe manufacturer may incentivise the purchase of EVs of whatever ilk, but they can't make people choose those options.

I think the purpose is to stop OEMs sitting on their hands and slow walking the delivery of EVS. Most of them are packing in the ICE R&D anyway.

[inactionman]

Interestingly, it appears that the ZEV Mandate, which will require car makers to have electrified models make up at least 22 per cent of their overall sales from 2024 is still coming into force.

Now, "electrified" is a weasel word, but if you miss the target you get clipped at £15k per vehicle. Given that anecdotally the 5 year rollback is making people think about whether to leave getting an EV (and the deadline also being either ill-researched or wilfully misrepresented in certain quarters as "a total ban in ICE"), a cynic might think some mandarin has hit upon a way to screw an income source out of car companies whose EV demand is suppressed by the announcement.

Much as I applaud any initiative to get us off fossil fuels, is that completely in the gift of the manufacture? It's the buyer's choice.

THe manufacturer may incentivise the purchase of EVs of whatever ilk, but they can't make people choose those options.

I think the purpose is to stop OEMs sitting on their hands and slow walking the delivery of EVS. Most of them are packing in the ICE R&D anyway.

It seems odd that our wonderfully free market advocating leaders don't realise that incentivising customers to buy EVs would necessarily incentivise manufacturers to provide them.

<removes tongue from cheek>

To be honest, anything to phase out hydrocarbon vehicles should really be applauded. This just seems a bit misplaced, as I understand it.

[dpedin]

Yeah. The police are a civil force not a military one, and it should stay that way.

There is a very significant difference between police and civilian. Armed police are following orders and are trained in the application of that process, civilians are not.

I think that difference means there is value in looking at whether a different process should be followed for potential prosecution.

Yeah, I'm not saying they're civilians, I'm saying they're a civil force not a military one. If there are clear rules of engagement for firearms officers and they are followed, then that should determine whether a prosecution follows. They can't just be exempted from accountability though.

The problem highlighted by police unions about 'years of legal proceedings' is more an indication that the justice system is fucked and it's taking years to get even simple crimes through the courts because of massive underresourcing.

Agreed - civil or military officers can be prosecuted if found they have operated outwith the agreed parameters/rules of engagement. They cannot be dealt with as if a different law applies to them.

However I do agree that it would be better if the whole process could be sped up as they amount of time it takes for CPS to determine to proceed with criminal prosecution and then getting to court etc is ridiculous. I believe there is an argument for speeding this process up for these types of cases albeit this has problems with leapfrogging equally important cases. It would be less of a problem if we didn't have an underfunded criminal justice system with huge backlogs of cases.

[dpedin]

Much as I applaud any initiative to get us off fossil fuels, is that completely in the gift of the manufacture? It's the buyer's choice.

THe manufacturer may incentivise the purchase of EVs of whatever ilk, but they can't make people choose those options.

I think the purpose is to stop OEMs sitting on their hands and slow walking the delivery of EVS. Most of them are packing in the ICE R&D anyway.

It seems odd that our wonderfully free market advocating leaders don't realise that incentivising customers to buy EVs would necessarily incentivise manufacturers to provide them.

<removes tongue from cheek>

To be honest, anything to phase out hydrocarbon vehicles should really be applauded. This just seems a bit misplaced, as I understand it.

The planning and lead in times that car manufacturers work to means that they cant really deviate from their existing plans based around the 2030 timeframe. Easiest way to avoid incurring the £15k surcharge is to just not make petrol or diesel powered cars! Most will only have EVs available for sale from 2030 - Nissan have already confirmed this is the case. Their plans will see a steady run down of petrol and diesel stocks from now onwards - who want to be left sitting on stocks of RH drive cars they cant sell for a profit? Sunak's decision is really just a political play ignoring the reality!!

A bigger problem for the car manufacturers and dealers in the UK is the stalemate over rules of origin, it looks like the EU aren't all that keen to deviate from the Brexit deal and as a result EV cars will incur a 10% tariff when transported over the channel in both directions - see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66889029. Of course many will be waiting for a last minute deal to extend the deadline -there is considerable pressure from companies on both sides of the channel - but car manufacturers won't like the uncertainty and will have contingency plans ready. This must be another Brexit bonus? Taking back control? Some might suggest this is the issue driving Sunak's walk back from the 2030 deadline?

[Paddington Bear]

Is there a summary somewhere as to what happened with the lad being killed, arguably murdered in the car? Or put another way, does it make sense the police are getting upset about this incident and the charges being brought, or are there wider concerns about the Monday morning quarterbacking of post incident procedures getting conflated into an already upsetting situation?

I think even his family accepted after seeing the footage that he was not murdered

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Is there a summary somewhere as to what happened with the lad being killed, arguably murdered in the car? Or put another way, does it make sense the police are getting upset about this incident and the charges being brought, or are there wider concerns about the Monday morning quarterbacking of post incident procedures getting conflated into an already upsetting situation?

I think even his family accepted after seeing the footage that he was not murdered

And yet the CPS bring a murder charge? unusual for the family of the person deaded to lowball the CPS.

Still the question would stand, which is essentially was there any need for a firearm to be involved, once drawn was there any need for a firearm to be discharged?

[Blackmac]

"I will give the Police free reign to shoot people" is entirely on brand for our Home Secretary.

That's not really what she said though was it and he knows it.
I personally can't understand the mentality of any cops that volunteers to carry a firearm, especially in somewhere like London where you are likely to use have to use them and place your liberty in the hands of a split second decision in a highly charged situation. A lot of these firearms interactions also seem to start with some very dodgy intelligence that immediately puts them on the back foot. They get no extra pay and no backing when it goes wrong.
Firearms officers in places like Scotland are basically considered useless, workshy lads who prefer swanning about in an ARV with little of no danger to doing everyday police work.

Giving any group of people 'special dispensation' from the law of the land is an extremely slippery slope to go down. I have a lot of admiration and indeed sympathy for the armed police but they cant be held to a different legal standard to everyone else in the land. The guy has been charged and will have to go through the legal process as it stands, suggesting only police don't have to go through this process, or will have a different police only process, is very, very dangerous. We cannot have any group of people who are above the law. Unlike many of our current Government I do have faith in our legal processes and hopefully it will come to the correct result.

I totally agree with you and I actually don't understand why these Met lads think there should as that has never been the case.

[Blackmac]

That's not really what she said though was it and he knows it.
I personally can't understand the mentality of any cops that volunteers to carry a firearm, especially in somewhere like London where you are likely to use have to use them and place your liberty in the hands of a split second decision in a highly charged situation. A lot of these firearms interactions also seem to start with some very dodgy intelligence that immediately puts them on the back foot. They get no extra pay and no backing when it goes wrong.
Firearms officers in places like Scotland are basically considered useless, workshy lads who prefer swanning about in an ARV with little of no danger to doing everyday police work.

Giving any group of people 'special dispensation' from the law of the land is an extremely slippery slope to go down. I have a lot of admiration and indeed sympathy for the armed police but they cant be held to a different legal standard to everyone else in the land. The guy has been charged and will have to go through the legal process as it stands, suggesting only police don't have to go through this process, or will have a different police only process, is very, very dangerous. We cannot have any group of people who are above the law. Unlike many of our current Government I do have faith in our legal processes and hopefully it will come to the correct result.

It is, but you've already given someone legal right* to kill someone in certain circumstances, which is itself a special dispensation. It would make sense to me that you examine those circumstances and the legality of their actions differently.

Not so differently as to allow murder, of course, but it's really not the same situation as joe public picking up a gun and shooting someone.

* I assume it's not a responsibility - they can't prosecute an armed policeman for not shooting someone who then goes on to harm someone else, can they?

Police officers already have many powers which could be considered "special dispensation" in relation to a number of laws, the ability to openly carry firearms and where necessary use them, being one of the biggest. A death by police shooting would generally be considered a justifiable homicide, however it is only right that there is extensive scrutiny to ensure those powers are not abused or misused. I presume there is something significant about this case that has caused the CPS to have instigated a murder charge.

[fishfoodie]

Giving any group of people 'special dispensation' from the law of the land is an extremely slippery slope to go down. I have a lot of admiration and indeed sympathy for the armed police but they cant be held to a different legal standard to everyone else in the land. The guy has been charged and will have to go through the legal process as it stands, suggesting only police don't have to go through this process, or will have a different police only process, is very, very dangerous. We cannot have any group of people who are above the law. Unlike many of our current Government I do have faith in our legal processes and hopefully it will come to the correct result.

It is, but you've already given someone legal right* to kill someone in certain circumstances, which is itself a special dispensation. It would make sense to me that you examine those circumstances and the legality of their actions differently.

Not so differently as to allow murder, of course, but it's really not the same situation as joe public picking up a gun and shooting someone.

* I assume it's not a responsibility - they can't prosecute an armed policeman for not shooting someone who then goes on to harm someone else, can they?

Police officers already have many powers which could be considered "special dispensation" in relation to a number of laws, the ability to openly carry firearms and where necessary use them, being one of the biggest. A death by police shooting would generally be considered a justifiable homicide, however it is only right that there is extensive scrutiny to ensure those powers are not abused or misused. I presume there is something significant about this case that has caused the CPS to have instigated a murder charge.

I assume that whenever a Police Officer discharges their weapon in the UK, that triggers a process to ensure that procedures were followed, regardless of the outcome of a shot being fired ?

.... and that such a process would be where any decision to escalate from an administrative, to a full on criminal investigation would happen (politics permitting).

[Sandstorm]

Assuming the CPS in the current climate of poor government and rapid civil service decline are actually competent.

[David in Gwent]

The CPS are pandering to what they think the socially correct answer should be rather than concentrating on the facts, you people, here, are largely to blame for this type of "thinking"

[Simian]

The CPS are pandering to what they think the socially correct answer should be rather than concentrating on the facts, you people, here, are largely to blame for this type of "thinking"

lol. Fuck off

[dpedin]

The CPS are pandering to what they think the socially correct answer should be rather than concentrating on the facts, you people, here, are largely to blame for this type of "thinking"

lol. Fuck off

Ha ha ha - I don't think DinG is aware of the dripping irony in his post! Love it for the comedic value!

[fishfoodie]

Sounds about right.

TORY CONTEST KICKS OFF: Home Secretary Suella Braverman will fire the starting gun on the next Conservative leadership contest with a barnstorming speech Stateside calling on world leaders to rip up the 70-year-old U.N. Refugee Convention and introduce a migration regime “fit for our modern age.” It’s the stuff of grassroot Tory fantasies, a bold declaration that: “Seeking asylum and seeking better economic prospects are not the same thing.” She’s even brought a TV crew along for the ride.

https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/lond ... rting-gun/

Some cynics might have suggested that the Tories would struggle to find a thicker, less suitable candidate than the lettuce, but actually they apparently have cornered the market on ambitious cretins.