Samoa vs Japan

[Oxbow]

That'll be a red.

Nah, they've changed their tune since Curry

Bingo.

[Torquemada 1420]

Love the way the refs have to keep passing the buck to the bunker. Just tell them it's red you spineless twonk.

[Slick]

Sigh

For many reasons

[Tichtheid]

Well colour me surprised, or not really.

[Slick]

Love the way the refs have to keep passing the buck to the bunker. Just tell them it's red you spineless twonk.

They’ve really, really obviously been told to do that you hysterical twonk

[Torquemada 1420]

Love the way the refs have to keep passing the buck to the bunker. Just tell them it's red you spineless twonk.

They’ve really, really obviously been told to do that you hysterical twonk

Ahh. And of course you can point me to the WR directive for that.

We will possibly never seen an onfield red again now as this system is being used by refs to abrogate their responsibilities.

[Sandstorm]

Love the way the refs have to keep passing the buck to the bunker. Just tell them it's red you spineless twonk.

They’ve really, really obviously been told to do that you hysterical twonk

Ahh. And of course you can point me to the WR directive for that.

We will possibly never seen an onfield red again now as this system is being used by refs to abrogate their responsibilities.

I’m ok with it. An on-field red “check check” can take 3-4 mins while everyone stands around waiting. Get on with the rugby, folks.

[Uncle fester]

They’ve really, really obviously been told to do that you hysterical twonk

Ahh. And of course you can point me to the WR directive for that.

We will possibly never seen an onfield red again now as this system is being used by refs to abrogate their responsibilities.

I’m ok with it. An on-field red “check check” can take 3-4 mins while everyone stands around waiting. Get on with the rugby, folks.

This

[Slick]

Love the way the refs have to keep passing the buck to the bunker. Just tell them it's red you spineless twonk.

They’ve really, really obviously been told to do that you hysterical twonk

Ahh. And of course you can point me to the WR directive for that.

We will possibly never seen an onfield red again now as this system is being used by refs to abrogate their responsibilities.

I don’t think I need to do that

[Slick]

Can Japan qualify from this group? They seem to be getting a bit better as they go along

[Torquemada 1420]

They’ve really, really obviously been told to do that you hysterical twonk

Ahh. And of course you can point me to the WR directive for that.

We will possibly never seen an onfield red again now as this system is being used by refs to abrogate their responsibilities.

I’m ok with it. An on-field red “check check” can take 3-4 mins while everyone stands around waiting. Get on with the rugby, folks.

Fine where there is some element of doubt but we've seen plenty of blatant reds which should not require any amount of additional checking.

[Jethro]

Christ away for five minutes grabbing a shower, hey got to work, and Japan are a further 9 points in the lead and Samoa has someone red carded

Japan 25-8, Samoa playing catch up from here

[Torquemada 1420]

Can Japan qualify from this group? They seem to be getting a bit better as they go along

If they beat Arg then yes and it would be Wal next.

[sockwithaticket]

Have Japan ever had a non-residency player in the second row?

[Jethro]

Samoa strike back, Japan 25-15, conversion from sideline!

[Enzedder]

Score twice in 7 minutes with 14 men.

Nah, not happening Samoa.

[Enzedder]

Can't believe Japan aren't going for the try and the BP.

[Slick]

Have Japan ever had a non-residency player in the second row?

Back in the day they used to have Japanese players who were too small to compete in the lineouts and they used to have some wildly innovative throw ins. Under the feet of players jumping up and all sorts

[Biffer]

Have Japan ever had a non-residency player in the second row?

Ito, Ono, Makabe.

[sockwithaticket]

Have Japan ever had a non-residency player in the second row?

Ito, Ono, Makabe.

Have Japan ever had a non-residency player in the second row?

Back in the day they used to have Japanese players who were too small to compete in the lineouts and they used to have some wildly innovative throw ins. Under the feet of players jumping up and all sorts

Ta. Do you recall roughly what sort of era that was? I can only remember seeing them have white guys over the last 15 - 20 years.

I know they've got some 6'5 - 6'9 guys on their national basketball team, so they do produce some people of what would be considered the requisite height for a modern day second row.

[Jethro]

Japan 28-22 ... fairy tale ending or Japan earning a win

[Biffer]

Have Japan ever had a non-residency player in the second row?

Ito, Ono, Makabe.

Have Japan ever had a non-residency player in the second row?

Back in the day they used to have Japanese players who were too small to compete in the lineouts and they used to have some wildly innovative throw ins. Under the feet of players jumping up and all sorts

Ta. Do you recall roughly what sort of era that was? I can only remember seeing them have white guys over the last 15 - 20 years.

I know they've got some 6'5 - 6'9 guys on their national basketball team, so they do produce some people of what would be considered the requisite height for a modern day second row.

The three I mentioned were in the World Cup squad 2015. Ono played 98 times.

[Jethro]

Last roll of the dice for Samoa

[Sandstorm]

Japan hold out to win.

I knew Samoa would get more cards. Filth.

[Jethro]

And Japan deserved winners here, Samoa a bit like NZ, ill discipline costing them.

Japan 28-22

Really enjoyed that one, and feel for Samoa who showed some real bravery when reduced to 14.

[Slick]

Have Japan ever had a non-residency player in the second row?

Ito, Ono, Makabe.

Have Japan ever had a non-residency player in the second row?

Back in the day they used to have Japanese players who were too small to compete in the lineouts and they used to have some wildly innovative throw ins. Under the feet of players jumping up and all sorts

Ta. Do you recall roughly what sort of era that was? I can only remember seeing them have white guys over the last 15 - 20 years.

I know they've got some 6'5 - 6'9 guys on their national basketball team, so they do produce some people of what would be considered the requisite height for a modern day second row.

Christ, I’m probably thinking back to the 80’s. My dad was a very decent 2nd row and remember him be completely enthralled by their innovations.

[sockwithaticket]

Ito, Ono, Makabe.

Back in the day they used to have Japanese players who were too small to compete in the lineouts and they used to have some wildly innovative throw ins. Under the feet of players jumping up and all sorts

Ta. Do you recall roughly what sort of era that was? I can only remember seeing them have white guys over the last 15 - 20 years.

I know they've got some 6'5 - 6'9 guys on their national basketball team, so they do produce some people of what would be considered the requisite height for a modern day second row.

The three I mentioned were in the World Cup squad 2015. Ono played 98 times.

Well if that's not a validation of the unreliability of memory... Luke Thompson was apparently the only non-Japanese second row they had at the 2015 RWC.

[sockwithaticket]

Ito, Ono, Makabe.

Back in the day they used to have Japanese players who were too small to compete in the lineouts and they used to have some wildly innovative throw ins. Under the feet of players jumping up and all sorts

Ta. Do you recall roughly what sort of era that was? I can only remember seeing them have white guys over the last 15 - 20 years.

I know they've got some 6'5 - 6'9 guys on their national basketball team, so they do produce some people of what would be considered the requisite height for a modern day second row.

Christ, I’m probably thinking back to the 80’s. My dad was a very decent 2nd row and remember him be completely enthralled by their innovations.

I'll bet, sounds interesting. Might see if I can track something down on Youtube later. Also achtung Niegs, sounds right up his alley.

[Paddington Bear]

Just watched it on catch up. Samoa by and large uninspired, bosh and cheap shot merchants. They were much better once they decided to actually play. I back Japan to beat Argentina and head to the quarters

[topofthemoon]

Love the way the refs have to keep passing the buck to the bunker. Just tell them it's red you spineless twonk.

They’ve really, really obviously been told to do that you hysterical twonk

Ahh. And of course you can point me to the WR directive for that.

We will possibly never seen an onfield red again now as this system is being used by refs to abrogate their responsibilities.

Entirely possible there has been further guidance for refs that hasn't been published but even the initial protocol for the Summer Series games made it highly unlikely an on field red would be issued for any incident involving the Head Contact Process.

https://www.world.rugby/news/827495/fou ... es-it-work

"If the officiating team is unable to determine whether an incident warrants a red card after two-big screen replays..."

I don't think there are any HCP decisions that can be fully completed to a red card threshold from 2 replays (confirm head contact, confirm foul play, assess level of danger, identify if always illegal such that mitigation cannot apply, identify mitigation) so by inserting that 2 replays clause they"ve put refs in the position they're going to go to the bunker every time.

[Kiwias]

Ta. Do you recall roughly what sort of era that was? I can only remember seeing them have white guys over the last 15 - 20 years.

I know they've got some 6'5 - 6'9 guys on their national basketball team, so they do produce some people of what would be considered the requisite height for a modern day second row.

The three I mentioned were in the World Cup squad 2015. Ono played 98 times.

Well if that's not a validation of the unreliability of memory... Luke Thompson was apparently the only non-Japanese second row they had at the 2015 RWC.

To the best of my knowledge, Luke had become a naturalized Japanese.

[Insane_Homer]

edit: never mind just watched the Highlights on YT.
They didn't show the Somoa yellow/red incident.

[laurent]

edit: never mind just watched the Highlights on YT.
They didn't show the Somoa yellow/red incident.

it's a red don't bother (some mitigation may apply).

[Torquemada 1420]

They’ve really, really obviously been told to do that you hysterical twonk

Ahh. And of course you can point me to the WR directive for that.

We will possibly never seen an onfield red again now as this system is being used by refs to abrogate their responsibilities.

Entirely possible there has been further guidance for refs that hasn't been published but even the initial protocol for the Summer Series games made it highly unlikely an on field red would be issued for any incident involving the Head Contact Process.

https://www.world.rugby/news/827495/fou ... es-it-work

"If the officiating team is unable to determine whether an incident warrants a red card after two-big screen replays..."

I don't think there are any HCP decisions that can be fully completed to a red card threshold from 2 replays (confirm head contact, confirm foul play, assess level of danger, identify if always illegal such that mitigation cannot apply, identify mitigation) so by inserting that 2 replays clause they"ve put refs in the position they're going to go to the bunker every time.

Thanks.

[Torquemada 1420]

Japan hold out to win.

I knew Samoa would get more cards. Filth.

Idiots. But not as idiotic as my picking them in the FR on the presumption that "surely they can't be that dim yet again".

[Sandstorm]

Japan hold out to win.

I knew Samoa would get more cards. Filth.

Idiots. But not as idiotic as my picking them in the FR on the presumption that "surely they can't be that dim yet again".

Oops