Stop voting for fucking Tories

[tabascoboy]

And it'll work with a depressing number of people because many can only focus on simple, immediate issues, while plenty of others don't pay attention to any news whatsoever except bits and pieces they absorb via Osmosis on social media.

'Get Brexit Done' worked because it was simple, it absolved people of thinking about issues.

They love their 3 word mantras: now it's all anti "war on motorists"

It's very effective.

The left need to engage with it more. I'm not comms strategist, but if I can do "Tax the rich", "Fight corporate greed", "Pay the workers" in 30 seconds surely they can come up with something better.

"Piss on Populism"?

[fishfoodie]

They love their 3 word mantras: now it's all anti "war on motorists"

It's very effective.

The left need to engage with it more. I'm not comms strategist, but if I can do "Tax the rich", "Fight corporate greed", "Pay the workers" in 30 seconds surely they can come up with something better.

"Piss on Populism"?

"Flush the Turds !"

[Random1]

We’ll worth a listen.

[SaintK]

Not good timing for Sunak and could very tasty!

“Bombshell” evidence on decisions taken by Rishi Sunak during the Covid pandemic that could undermine the Prime Minister’s election campaign will be heard in the coming weeks, i can reveal.

Mr Sunak gave the go-ahead for his Eat Out To Help Out scheme in summer 2020 without the knowledge of the Department of Health under Matt Hancock, evidence to the Covid Inquiry is understood to claim. At the time the department was leading the fight to contain a fresh wave of the virus.

https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://i ... s-2653877

[Tichtheid]

A few more three worders for the Tories after watching Rory Stewart’s opening salvo on that video, which is more than enough apologist bollocks for anyone.

I Don’t Care
Bugger the Consequences
I Matter More
Fuck You Jack
No Climate Change
Science Is Boring
Rights Not Responsibilities
Future Be Damned

[Sandstorm]

Not good timing for Sunak and could very tasty!

“Bombshell” evidence on decisions taken by Rishi Sunak during the Covid pandemic that could undermine the Prime Minister’s election campaign will be heard in the coming weeks, i can reveal.

Mr Sunak gave the go-ahead for his Eat Out To Help Out scheme in summer 2020 without the knowledge of the Department of Health under Matt Hancock, evidence to the Covid Inquiry is understood to claim. At the time the department was leading the fight to contain a fresh wave of the virus.

https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://i ... s-2653877

I wouldn’t tell Hancock about my dinner plans either in case he wanted to come.

[SaintK]

Sunak got a wee bit snippy when he was shown this dduring his Kuenssberg interview earlier

[sockwithaticket]

He gets snippy the moment anyone doesn't just nod or say "Yes, Rishi."

Another thin-skinned rich boy who doesn't like it when those he perceives as proles don't validate his every uttering.

[Line6 HXFX]

13 years of some of the harshest welfare reforms anywhere in earth, millions sanctioned, people forced to visit the job centre for 35 hours a week, foodbanks,.billions spent on creating a fucking nightmare universal credit system ( and they knighted Iain Duncan Smith for it) .. and apparently millions of people can still get unemployment benefits without looking for work?

They can all hide in the system and not be bothered by the DWP, apparently.

You have to wonder if welfare reform and smearing and slandering the unemployed is bullshit now, after all of this, and their reforms (which they are basically now saying failed), if they have the brass neck to go there now... with something that was their responsibility, their massively expensive policies, like A4e, Working Links, the work programe, the welfare to work scheme......wasn't it all bullshit to begin with?

Shame the unemployed cannot sue the government and news media for all the smears and lies.


We really need laws jn this country to protect the unemployed. Portraying unemployed people as lazy scum all over the media, and then punishing them when inevitably no one will employ them is nuts.

The right will always have self serving contempt for the unemployed no matter what they do to them, no matter how much damage, penury and misery they inflict... this is why the unemployed must now be protected by law.

[I like neeps]

Which strategist is telling the Tories to invent a load of fake policies to come out against?

15 minute cities is about having everything you need within 15 minutes. Isn't that a good thing? How in any way is it bad?(Apart from it'll never happen because we don't develop infrastructure, have enough doctors, dentists, butchers and bakers).

[Insane_Homer]

BREAKING: Rishi Sunak faces another nightmare by-election in a Red Wall seat as an MP is set to be ousted over a lobbying scandal.
The Standards Committee is poised to suspend Scott Benton (Con, Blackpool South) for more than 10 days, which will trigger a process that will give his constituents the chance to remove him. (a recall petition)

[tabascoboy]

Which strategist is telling the Tories to invent a load of fake policies to come out against?

15 minute cities is about having everything you need within 15 minutes. Isn't that a good thing? How in any way is it bad?(Apart from it'll never happen because we don't develop infrastructure, have enough doctors, dentists, butchers and bakers).

Which is pretty much the case of how life was in the 1950s - the same period that ironically the Tories keep trying to take us back to...

[Slick]

Which strategist is telling the Tories to invent a load of fake policies to come out against?

15 minute cities is about having everything you need within 15 minutes. Isn't that a good thing? How in any way is it bad?(Apart from it'll never happen because we don't develop infrastructure, have enough doctors, dentists, butchers and bakers).

I actually just saw someone on social media earlier who was convinced that he would be kept in his 15 minute patch and would need a permit to leave. He seemed absolutely genuine.

[sockwithaticket]

Which strategist is telling the Tories to invent a load of fake policies to come out against?

15 minute cities is about having everything you need within 15 minutes. Isn't that a good thing? How in any way is it bad?(Apart from it'll never happen because we don't develop infrastructure, have enough doctors, dentists, butchers and bakers).

Well they can't exactly tout their record on anything and it might finally have dawned on them that, having been in power for the last 13 years, blaming Labour is somewhat falling on deaf ears. All they can really rail against is falsehoods.

[tabascoboy]

[C69]

Fuck The North

[I like neeps]

Which strategist is telling the Tories to invent a load of fake policies to come out against?

15 minute cities is about having everything you need within 15 minutes. Isn't that a good thing? How in any way is it bad?(Apart from it'll never happen because we don't develop infrastructure, have enough doctors, dentists, butchers and bakers).

I actually just saw someone on social media earlier who was convinced that he would be kept in his 15 minute patch and would need a permit to leave. He seemed absolutely genuine.

I'm sure he is genuine but that means that his critical thinking and rationality has been rotted by social media sadly.

[Sandstorm]

Fuck The North

That’s good advice. Fit and keen birds up there.

[sturginho]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... russ-group


It's official, they've gone completely fucking insane!

[ScarfaceClaw]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... russ-group


It's official, they've gone completely fucking insane!

I had to double check that wasn’t the daily mash. They can’t be seriously backing PM Lettuce.

[C69]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... russ-group


It's official, they've gone completely fucking insane!

I had to double check that wasn’t the daily mash. They can’t be seriously backing PM Lettuce.

Yes, yes they are.
They don't want a Tory Victory. They want a Trumpian rally after the loss and go full out and purge the Tory Party of Liberals and want to see GB news as the bellwheter for sensible opinion.
Truss' words earlier

[fishfoodie]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... russ-group


It's official, they've gone completely fucking insane!

I had to double check that wasn’t the daily mash. They can’t be seriously backing PM Lettuce.

Yes, yes they are.
They don't want a Tory Victory. They want a Trumpian rally after the loss and go full out and purge the Tory Party of Liberals and want to see GB news as the bellwheter for sensible opinion.
Truss' words earlier

Well you've had the same PM for a year now, surely you're due a new one ?

If the head boy had a pair of balls, he'd have a, "Back me, or Sack me", vote, & he'd deselect any of them that forgot who was their Leader.

The twat Farage was in the audience for this latest shitshow by Truss, along with the usual suspects amoungst his own MPs.

[Tichtheid]

Some people are still staring unblinking at a wall, slowly mouthing the words, "Labour will be worse" for hours on end.

[tabascoboy]

Rules? We don't need no stinking rules...

[ScarfaceClaw]

Some people are still staring unblinking at a wall, slowly mouthing the words, "Labour will be worse" for hours on end.

I think at this stage I could lob a handful of my own shite at the wall and that would be better than the likes of Lettuce Liz.

[Slick]

Rules? We don't need no stinking rules...

She is now saying it’s a lie. Her staff recorded all the meetings but “they forgot to send the returns”

[Margin__Walker]

This is a laugh. Still hunting for that Starmer meat tax

[Line6 HXFX]

Brilliant discussion on MSNBC about the rise of anti democratic movements in the USA.. (now lead by Steve Bannon) and he rise of authoritarianism.
Just reminding people that democracy is seriously under threat now..
How the right cannot get their stuff done through the demicratic process without destroying it, as their policies are deepy unpopular.to most of the country...How people have had enough of democracy (no matter who they vote for their rents, food, costs of childcare, healthcare and education just go up and up as wages stagnate) and how 35% just want a ruler or strongman to now take charge..and how these emotions have left the US in a very precarious situation.
If the Democrats are fighting elections like it is the nineties they will lose.

[tabascoboy]

I had to double check that wasn’t the daily mash. They can’t be seriously backing PM Lettuce.

Yes, yes they are.
They don't want a Tory Victory. They want a Trumpian rally after the loss and go full out and purge the Tory Party of Liberals and want to see GB news as the bellwheter for sensible opinion.
Truss' words earlier

Well you've had the same PM for a year now, surely you're due a new one ?

If the head boy had a pair of balls, he'd have a, "Back me, or Sack me", vote, & he'd deselect any of them that forgot who was their Leader.

The twat Farage was in the audience for this latest shitshow by Truss, along with the usual suspects amoungst his own MPs.

Trying to imagine more of a shitshow combination than a Truss & Farage led new party - and it' just not happening

[Hal Jordan]

Rules? We don't need no stinking rules...

She's also had a go at charities daring to wonder if the Government has been a trifle silly with a policy, and shouldn't get public money if they do. In her words, as the Government should "be allowed to mark our own homework".

Authoritarian as they come.

[SaintK]

So every time she opens her mouth she puts both feet in!!

[sockwithaticket]

This is a laugh. Still hunting for that Starmer meat tax

Good for her continuing to point out that the meat tax is made up, but we need journos to really start hammering all these bullshit pronouncements.

ULEZ costing families £12.50 a day - take your pick of it was a Boris policy, you'll be reducing deaths and improving health (thereby reducing strain on the NHS) and 90%> of people don't have to pay it.

Decarbonising the electricity grid will result in very difficult choices for families - how? according to who?

Pushing inflation by borrowing £28 billion - a) even before Covid government borrowing was spiralling under Tories, so who are they to criticise b) borrowing money isn't inherently bad. All governments do it all the time. So long as it's invested in something useful (and not trousered by donors or mate's companies) it can very much be good.

[Slick]

If you read back on this thread a couple of years ago you will see I was pretty dismissive of a lot of the claims of posters on the direction of travel of this government. Yeah, I was very wrong about that.

This conference is utterly unbelievable, I've never seen or heard anything like it. I'm sitting at home furious. Jesus.

[Slick]

This is a laugh. Still hunting for that Starmer meat tax

Good for her continuing to point out that the meat tax is made up, but we need journos to really start hammering all these bullshit pronouncements.

ULEZ costing families £12.50 a day - take your pick of it was a Boris policy, you'll be reducing deaths and improving health (thereby reducing strain on the NHS) and 90%> of people don't have to pay it.

Decarbonising the electricity grid will result in very difficult choices for families - how? according to who?

Pushing inflation by borrowing £28 billion - a) even before Covid government borrowing was spiralling under Tories, so who are they to criticise b) borrowing money isn't inherently bad. All governments do it all the time. So long as it's invested in something useful (and not trousered by donors or mate's companies) it can very much be good.

This. I was listening to Evan Davies this morning talking with Andrew Bowie about the 15 minute cities bullshit. There were so many opportunities to skewer him that were missed, really frustrating.

[shaggy]

This is a laugh. Still hunting for that Starmer meat tax

Good for her continuing to point out that the meat tax is made up, but we need journos to really start hammering all these bullshit pronouncements.

ULEZ costing families £12.50 a day - take your pick of it was a Boris policy, you'll be reducing deaths and improving health (thereby reducing strain on the NHS) and 90%> of people don't have to pay it.

Decarbonising the electricity grid will result in very difficult choices for families - how? according to who?

Pushing inflation by borrowing £28 billion - a) even before Covid government borrowing was spiralling under Tories, so who are they to criticise b) borrowing money isn't inherently bad. All governments do it all the time. So long as it's invested in something useful (and not trousered by donors or mate's companies) it can very much be good.

Not specifically you but you can’t pour scorn on Conservatives for blaming all the woes on Labour and also blame the current ULEZ expansion on Boris.

It has been rolled out too quick, 9 months notice is not enough time to enable motorists to adapt when vehicle supply, especially electric, has not recovered from the supply chain issues.

[tabascoboy]

If this poll is accurate reflection of public opinion, the Tories seeming intent on tearing themselves into two warring factions would be a spectacularly pointless process - but could be fun to watch



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And Braverman as repulsive as ever today

[sockwithaticket]

This is a laugh. Still hunting for that Starmer meat tax

Good for her continuing to point out that the meat tax is made up, but we need journos to really start hammering all these bullshit pronouncements.

ULEZ costing families £12.50 a day - take your pick of it was a Boris policy, you'll be reducing deaths and improving health (thereby reducing strain on the NHS) and 90%> of people don't have to pay it.

Decarbonising the electricity grid will result in very difficult choices for families - how? according to who?

Pushing inflation by borrowing £28 billion - a) even before Covid government borrowing was spiralling under Tories, so who are they to criticise b) borrowing money isn't inherently bad. All governments do it all the time. So long as it's invested in something useful (and not trousered by donors or mate's companies) it can very much be good.

Not specifically you but you can’t pour scorn on Conservatives for blaming all the woes on Labour and also blame the current ULEZ expansion on Boris.

It has been rolled out too quick, 9 months notice is not enough time to enable motorists to adapt when vehicle supply, especially electric, has not recovered from the supply chain issues.

It was introduced with pretty significant input from a very recent Tory prime minister and the Tories are currently trying to spin it as a wholly Labour initiative in an invented 'war on motorists'.

Did Boris still back ULEZ by the time he left office? What was the Tory party consensus on it? If the Tory party has been against it in principal, why are we only hearing about it since the Uxbridge by-election? Those are relevant questions to my mind and speak more to exposing (yet more) hypocrisy or lack of actual conviction in what seems to be the current party consensus rather than trying to pin the decision on the Conservatives. To do so would be daft, Khan is clearly a supporter of the policy and happy for it to go ahead. The broader Labour party position isn't so clear, but no one seems to think it's so electorally important as for it to be worth drawing swords with Khan over.

[I like neeps]

This is a laugh. Still hunting for that Starmer meat tax

Good for her continuing to point out that the meat tax is made up, but we need journos to really start hammering all these bullshit pronouncements.

ULEZ costing families £12.50 a day - take your pick of it was a Boris policy, you'll be reducing deaths and improving health (thereby reducing strain on the NHS) and 90%> of people don't have to pay it.

Decarbonising the electricity grid will result in very difficult choices for families - how? according to who?

Pushing inflation by borrowing £28 billion - a) even before Covid government borrowing was spiralling under Tories, so who are they to criticise b) borrowing money isn't inherently bad. All governments do it all the time. So long as it's invested in something useful (and not trousered by donors or mate's companies) it can very much be good.

This. I was listening to Evan Davies this morning talking with Andrew Bowie about the 15 minute cities bullshit. There were so many opportunities to skewer him that were missed, really frustrating.

You have to remember a significant number of the journos in follow an editorial direction that isn't really interested in holding the Tories to account on fibs and most actively promote those fibs anyway.

[tabascoboy]

[tabascoboy]

some staffer had to quickly exercise an attempt at damage control