Stop voting for fucking Tories

[Insane_Homer]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... m-my-phone

Penny Mordaunt has told the Covid inquiry that a series of WhatsApp messages with Boris Johnson mysteriously disappeared from her phone, and that Johnson’s then chief of staff ignored 14 attempts by her to arrange a meeting to discuss the matter.

In a further twist to the saga of 5,000 WhatsApp messages lost by Johnson, Mordaunt said she was told by Cabinet Office officials it would cost about £40,000 to examine her phone to determine what had happened.

When Johnson gave evidence to the Covid inquiry early this month, he said it had been impossible to retrieve about 5,000 WhatsApp messages from his old phone – covering the crucial period from January to June 2020 – with the loss possibly caused by the device undergoing a factory reset.

[Insane_Homer]

Rishi Sunak has been chastised by the UK's statistics watchdog for claiming to have reduced public debt - despite not having done so.

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak- ... g-13034204

[fishfoodie]

When does the PPE module of the Covid Inquiry start ?

I can't imagine the head boy, or anyone else in the Party, want to be knocking on people's doors electioneering when that's all being exposed ?

There isn't a good time for the next GE from their perspective, but an earlier one surely allows more of their MPs to potentially survive before the bus goes over the cliff.

[Insane_Homer]

Another oopsies

https://www.taxpolicy.org.uk/2023/12/19 ... _it_again/

Douglas Barrowman and Michelle Mone own a house in Belgravia through a BVI company. That company should show Barrowman and/or Mone as the beneficial owner. It doesn't. That's a breach of company law - and potentially a criminal offence.

[Insane_Homer]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/1 ... rees-mogg/

The talking pencil has another grand idea!

The Equality Act should be scrapped to tackle “wokery” and restore “common sense” to the workplace, Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg has said.

[dpedin]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... m-my-phone

Penny Mordaunt has told the Covid inquiry that a series of WhatsApp messages with Boris Johnson mysteriously disappeared from her phone, and that Johnson’s then chief of staff ignored 14 attempts by her to arrange a meeting to discuss the matter.

In a further twist to the saga of 5,000 WhatsApp messages lost by Johnson, Mordaunt said she was told by Cabinet Office officials it would cost about £40,000 to examine her phone to determine what had happened.

When Johnson gave evidence to the Covid inquiry early this month, he said it had been impossible to retrieve about 5,000 WhatsApp messages from his old phone – covering the crucial period from January to June 2020 – with the loss possibly caused by the device undergoing a factory reset.

All smelling a bit Watergatey to me! Remember it's never the original crime but the cover ups that get the crooks. This mobile phone saga and potentially lying under oath could be the one that nails a lot of these feckers ... hopefully!

[lemonhead]

Was a time when I'd see it this way but right now, these grifting twats still run the country and running the clock down right to the end.

Sincerely wish they'd just feck off the stage.

Of course, same here, I'm just hoping that them openly admitting how corrupt they are might finally start to move the needle in the polls

I'd sooner have people successfully brought to trial.

What was it Bill Bryson said, in this country we have a million ways to joke about this shit without ever seriously challenging it.

One of the very few (possibly only) times you envy US prosecutors: if they want to send you down and have evidence, you're f#cked.

[sturginho]

Was a time when I'd see it this way but right now, these grifting twats still run the country and running the clock down right to the end.

Sincerely wish they'd just feck off the stage.

Of course, same here, I'm just hoping that them openly admitting how corrupt they are might finally start to move the needle in the polls

I'd sooner have people successfully brought to trial.

What was it Bill Bryson said, in this country we have a million ways to joke about this shit without ever seriously challenging it.

One of the very few (possibly only) times you envy US prosecutors: if they want to send you down and have evidence, you're f#cked.

Well in the UK we love to think that we are superior to everyone else in the world, and this includes our politics. We're the "mother of democracies" or something. So I think there's a fear that if we ever seriously went after politicians for corruption, we'd end up exposing exactly how rotten a country we are, and then how could we ever lord it over the French or the Americans or anyone else ever again.

[lemonhead]

Wholesome apology in front of the select committee it is then. Grave disposition, dressed in funereal black throughout and absolutely NO laughing.

That'll learn em.

[sturginho]

Wholesome apology in front of the select committee it is then. Grave disposition, dressed in funereal black throughout and absolutely NO laughing.

That'll learn em.

And a car crash interview with LK don't forget!

[Insane_Homer]

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[fishfoodie]

Of course the ultimate irony in this is that the overwhelming majority of Unionists agree with the Irish Government in this, & the legislation is a solo run by the ERG scum. There is zero support for this legislation in NI, but when did anyone in Tory land ever give a fuck about that ?

Ireland is to sue the UK over its attempt to halt inquests, civil cases and criminal prosecutions for crimes during Northern Ireland’s Troubles.

Leo Varadkar, the taoiseach of Ireland, said on Wednesday that Dublin would launch an inter-state case against the UK’s so-called legacy legislation under the European convention on human rights.

“It is something that we’re genuinely doing with a sense of regret, and would prefer not to be in this position, but we did make a commitment to survivors in Northern Ireland and to the families of victims that we would stand by them,” the taoiseach said.

The Irish government would seek a judicial review on the basis of legal advice that the legislation breached the convention on human rights, said Varadkar.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... legacy-act

[C69]

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What's he said about inflation?

[Insane_Homer]

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What's he said about inflation?

The plan is working which puts more money in all our pockets

[fishfoodie]

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What's he said about inflation?

The plan is working which puts more money in all our pockets

For once a Tory being honest with the electorate !



..... as long as you remember that, "our", is referring to Tory MPs & their donors ....

[Biffer]

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What's he said about inflation?

The main reason for inflation coming down is decreasing energy prices. Many other things still have high level inflation. When energy pricing stops falling, inflation will increase again, probably later next year.

There’s a structural problem with inflation globally. It was constrained by two key things over the last decade or two - shale gas coming into the market in the US, which choked back energy prices, and the growth of China, which injected a huge amount of low cost labour into the global marketplace. Both of those effects are over, and the signs of increasing inflation were already there prior to Russia invading Ukraine, but have been hidden by the effect of that. You can check this if you want - for example the gas price was already double its long term average in the first half of 2021.

Inflation will not return to the historically low levels we saw for most of the early part of the 21st century.

[Hal Jordan]

Wholesome apology in front of the select committee it is then. Grave disposition, dressed in funereal black throughout and absolutely NO laughing.

That'll learn em.

And a car crash interview with LK don't forget!

Lessons will also have been learnt, no doubt.

[sockwithaticket]

I just read a little more about Mone's business past
- making false claims about celebrities like Julia Roberts wearing her bras in films
- launching a weight loss pill claiming to have undertaken clinical trials, then, when that lie was exposed, that customers had filled out a questionnaire on the results seen from using the drug. Those responses were lost. In the digital age.
- launching a crypto-currency that spectacularly failed
- aborted property development in Dubai

What I can't find, however, is the reason given for elevating her to the lords. I'm sure it was part of the cash for honours scandal, but putting her name and Houe Of Lords into search engines at the moment just gives you page upon page of opinion pieces understandably stating that she should have her title stripped.

[tabascoboy]

Ignorant or just plain gaslighting?

Junior Doctor is a title given to fully qualified Doctors who are either in a 2 year clinical foundation, or have not yet specialised and so are supervised by Consultants in their area of practice. They make up 48% of Doctors in England and could have a decade of experience.

https://fullfact.org/health/what-junior-doctor/

[dpedin]

Ignorant or just plain gaslighting?

Junior Doctor is a title given to fully qualified Doctors who are either in a 2 year clinical foundation, or have not yet specialised and so are supervised by Consultants in their area of practice. They make up 48% of Doctors in England and could have a decade of experience.

https://fullfact.org/health/what-junior-doctor/

I cant work out if she is just thick or if she was trying to wind the docs up?

You can have a Junior Doctor who has done a 5 years undergraduate degree, 2 years Foundation training during which they attain their full registration with the GMC, 2-3 years of core training in something like medical or surgical specialities and then be 4-5+ years into specialty training in a recognised sub specialty ie neurosurgery, cardiac surgery. Some may take time out to do a MD/PhD or even a managerial qualification. Others may do a further year of study once they qualify as a consultant in order to do highly specialized training as a Post CCT Clinical Fellow from an expert before getting their first consultant job. Finally some might have taken time out to get work experience abroad in US or Australia or even with a charity such as Medicine Sans Frontiers. So some who eventually get their first consultant job may have spent 15-20 years of study and getting experience first.

Atkins is just a twat. Sure every patient must legally have a named consultant who is ultimately responsible for their care but in reality the majority of that care will be delivered by highly qualified and well trained junior doctors. Without these guys the NHS would collapse. To make them sound like YTS trainees is just ignorant and demonstrates a lack of understanding of the medical training process.

Does this mean we call all MPs who are not in Cabinet 'trainees' regardless of how long they have been an MP and what their previous work experience might be? I also suspect the average Junior Doctors has more qualifications than the average MP! I also suspect the average training pathway to becoming an MP is a lot shorter and less onerous than the medical pathway - apparently giving Boris a blow job got you into the cabinet, HoL or even marriage!

[petej]

Ignorant or just plain gaslighting?

Junior Doctor is a title given to fully qualified Doctors who are either in a 2 year clinical foundation, or have not yet specialised and so are supervised by Consultants in their area of practice. They make up 48% of Doctors in England and could have a decade of experience.

https://fullfact.org/health/what-junior-doctor/

Intentional gas lighting. The likelihood of most the public knowing what training a junior doctor has had is bugger all.

[sockwithaticket]

I cant work out if she is just thick or if she was trying to wind the docs up?

Neither. Someone in the Tory comms straegy team knows that a lot of the public 1) Don't have as much sympathy for doctor's strikes as some others and 2) Don't actually know that junior doctor refers to fully trained and sometimes quite experienced staff. The perception that junior doctors are young and inexperienced also helps to play into generational conflict.

They're deliberately trying to put it out there that junior docs, being young and inexperienced, are being particularly greedy with their pay demands.

Facts don't matter, perception is all.

[ASMO]

I just read a little more about Mone's business past
- making false claims about celebrities like Julia Roberts wearing her bras in films
- launching a weight loss pill claiming to have undertaken clinical trials, then, when that lie was exposed, that customers had filled out a questionnaire on the results seen from using the drug. Those responses were lost. In the digital age.
- launching a crypto-currency that spectacularly failed
- aborted property development in Dubai

What I can't find, however, is the reason given for elevating her to the lords. I'm sure it was part of the cash for honours scandal, but putting her name and Houe Of Lords into search engines at the moment just gives you page upon page of opinion pieces understandably stating that she should have her title stripped.

She probably noshed off the bumblecunt in exchange for a peerage.

[sockwithaticket]

I just read a little more about Mone's business past
- making false claims about celebrities like Julia Roberts wearing her bras in films
- launching a weight loss pill claiming to have undertaken clinical trials, then, when that lie was exposed, that customers had filled out a questionnaire on the results seen from using the drug. Those responses were lost. In the digital age.
- launching a crypto-currency that spectacularly failed
- aborted property development in Dubai

What I can't find, however, is the reason given for elevating her to the lords. I'm sure it was part of the cash for honours scandal, but putting her name and Houe Of Lords into search engines at the moment just gives you page upon page of opinion pieces understandably stating that she should have her title stripped.

She probably noshed off the bumblecunt in exchange for a peerage.

That's the other, younger blonde. Mone was elevated on Cameron's watch.

[petej]

I cant work out if she is just thick or if she was trying to wind the docs up?

Neither. Someone in the Tory comms straegy team knows that a lot of the public 1) Don't have as much sympathy for doctor's strikes as some others and 2) Don't actually know that junior doctor refers to fully trained and sometimes quite experienced staff. The perception that junior doctors are young and inexperienced also helps to play into generational conflict.

They're deliberately trying to put it out there that junior docs, being young and inexperienced, are being particularly greedy with their pay demands.

Facts don't matter, perception is all.

The issue is the fixed costs of living and tax has just go up so quickly and a lot of generations are very insulated from it. With a bit of money and wealth you can really shield yourself from things like energy (including transportation) and housing costs.

Just massive arseholes playing on conflicts between generations and classes to line their own and their mates pockets.

[SaintK]

I cant work out if she is just thick or if she was trying to wind the docs up?

Neither. Someone in the Tory comms straegy team knows that a lot of the public 1) Don't have as much sympathy for doctor's strikes as some others and 2) Don't actually know that junior doctor refers to fully trained and sometimes quite experienced staff. The perception that junior doctors are young and inexperienced also helps to play into generational conflict.

They're deliberately trying to put it out there that junior docs, being young and inexperienced, are being particularly greedy with their pay demands.

Facts don't matter, perception is all.

Not quite.

The BMA has confirmed that it does not like the term “junior doctors”, and that it prefers the term “doctors in training” – although it also says this is still not ideal.

[sockwithaticket]

I cant work out if she is just thick or if she was trying to wind the docs up?

Neither. Someone in the Tory comms straegy team knows that a lot of the public 1) Don't have as much sympathy for doctor's strikes as some others and 2) Don't actually know that junior doctor refers to fully trained and sometimes quite experienced staff. The perception that junior doctors are young and inexperienced also helps to play into generational conflict.

They're deliberately trying to put it out there that junior docs, being young and inexperienced, are being particularly greedy with their pay demands.

Facts don't matter, perception is all.

Not quite.

The BMA has confirmed that it does not like the term “junior doctors”, and that it prefers the term “doctors in training” – although it also says this is still not ideal.

Yes I've seen them rush that out as a defence. Junior doctors has still been the common terminology in the press for the duration of the disputes and the Tories have shown zero inclination to bow the BMA on anything in recent times, so I still subscribe to a more nefarious and cynical reading the situation.

The government have long since surrendered any benefit of the doubt.

[Paddington Bear]

I cant work out if she is just thick or if she was trying to wind the docs up?

Neither. Someone in the Tory comms straegy team knows that a lot of the public 1) Don't have as much sympathy for doctor's strikes as some others and 2) Don't actually know that junior doctor refers to fully trained and sometimes quite experienced staff. The perception that junior doctors are young and inexperienced also helps to play into generational conflict.

They're deliberately trying to put it out there that junior docs, being young and inexperienced, are being particularly greedy with their pay demands.

Facts don't matter, perception is all.

The issue is the fixed costs of living and tax has just go up so quickly and a lot of generations are very insulated from it. With a bit of money and wealth you can really shield yourself from things like energy (including transportation) and housing costs.

Just massive arseholes playing on conflicts between generations and classes to line their own and their mates pockets.

Yes there’s a lot of things in this country atm that are a bit like those high pitched noise emitters to scare off foxes - you can’t hear the alarm if you’re over a certain age.

[Hal Jordan]

The Brains Trust have realised that the £38.7k no foreigners rule was as well thought out as all their other ideas, and have dropped the threshold to £29k. Still up £10.4k from the current limit of £18.6k, mind you.

[Openside]

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God she is nauseating (and I know her well)

[weegie01]

I'm a British citizen and I effectively can't return to the UK with my British son and foreign wife. Meanwhile, foreign students can bring their spouses to the UK. Imagine my resentment.

What? How can your wife not get in based on being your wife? I was under the impression genuine marriage was an automatic entry.

Nope.

This is what these fuckers have done. They’ve slipped all this stuff in and they know the vast majority aren’t paying attention to it (because why would anyone?).

And all of a sudden we find out we have a much more racist, aggressively authoritarian country than we used to have.

I raise this again due to an article showing just how bonkers this is.

It turns out that the number of spouse visas is trivial in the grand scheme of things, and that there is no schedule as to when the new restrictions will be brought in other than incrementally from the Spring, starting at £29k.

Perhaps I am naive, but I would have though that if there was one group the proverbial man on the Clapham omnibus would agree was reasonable to allow easily into the country are bona fide spouses of UK citizens.

This just seems mad to me. The impact will be minor, the damage to those affected could be huge, with little obvious politcal benefit.

What am I missing? Where is the perceived upside?

[Tichtheid]

What am I missing? Where is the perceived upside?

I think if you widen your eyes into a mad stare, bare your teeth and bellow "STOP THE BOATS" it all makes sense.

[dpedin]

What am I missing? Where is the perceived upside?

I think if you widen your eyes into a mad stare, bare your teeth and bellow "STOP THE BOATS" it all makes sense.

Whilst waving a tattered upside down Union Jack with with one hand and a pint of bitter in your other hand and a tatty plastic Union Jack hat atop your shiny bald chubby head?

[SaintK]

Not in my backyard thanks!

The prime minister said in March that he was “showing leadership” by including the Catterick Garrison barracks in his Richmond constituency in North Yorkshire on a list of sites to be repurposed to accommodate thousands of migrants. The site was due to be used as a general accommodation site for asylum seekers who would not be detained and would be free to come and go …

However, The Times has learnt that Sunak has ordered the Home Office no longer to use it as a large-scale asylum facility.

A government spokesman confirmed that the Catterick barracks had been assessed as unsuitable for a large asylum facility and that the government was reviewing “alternative uses for the location”.

[Paddington Bear]

What? How can your wife not get in based on being your wife? I was under the impression genuine marriage was an automatic entry.

Nope.

This is what these fuckers have done. They’ve slipped all this stuff in and they know the vast majority aren’t paying attention to it (because why would anyone?).

And all of a sudden we find out we have a much more racist, aggressively authoritarian country than we used to have.

I raise this again due to an article showing just how bonkers this is.

It turns out that the number of spouse visas is trivial in the grand scheme of things, and that there is no schedule as to when the new restrictions will be brought in other than incrementally from the Spring, starting at £29k.

Perhaps I am naive, but I would have though that if there was one group the proverbial man on the Clapham omnibus would agree was reasonable to allow easily into the country are bona fide spouses of UK citizens.

This just seems mad to me. The impact will be minor, the damage to those affected could be huge, with little obvious politcal benefit.

What am I missing? Where is the perceived upside?

There are a few major sources of immigration that are having clear negatives in a macro context:
- students at low ranking universities
- the massive increase in dependents of students, the vast majority being from a select group of third world countries
- postgrad students on cheap masters to stay on low pay for three years
- care home workers who can leave the industry rapidly
- care home dependents

How they then stumbled upon spouses as the big issue christ knows. They could solve the genuine issues really quite quickly if they grasped the nettle, then move on to ensuring rapists etc actually get deported, and the whole sting would be taken away. Instead we just get more flailing

[I like neeps]

Jeez

[sefton]

Jeez

That can’t be right, you can feed a family of 6 for 30p.

[Uncle fester]

Jeez

Related
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... dApp_Other

What the Dickens

[Sandstorm]

(At Sefton, not the Black Market food shame)

[fishfoodie]

So on the insane new immigration rules.

Am I the only person who sees the obvious consequence of promising to ramp up minimum household income, as inevitably causing a rush next year, as companies & individuals race to get in on the lower incomes ?

So instead of reducing immigration before the GE, it's almost certain to accelerate it !