Kicking off in Israel

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Yep.

After all, it's much more comforting to just suck your thumb and mumble Kumbaya while ignoring the surrounding reality of most people's lives.

Especially when you're surrounded by high walls, razor wire, and armed security guards.

Paradise!

It's emotional loadshedding

FFS we've got Kiwis telling Saffers what a hard life looks like! Every Saffer (Black or White, rich or poor) knows exactly what a "a really hard life" looks like. They see it every time they go the store to buy milk & see their fellow citizens struggling.

There are more desperate people living under bushes within a 10 mile radius of Sard's house than in the entire Australian and New Zealand continent!
There are more people living under plastic sheets in the dirt in sunny Cape Town than there are in Gaza this month.

If you haven't been to South Africa and seen how shit the lives are every day of about 8 million people, STFU.
Don't try to tell us you know about hardship because you saw it on CNN last night.

It's odd isn't that SA has all those people struggling, and as an aside 8 million seems a low estimate, and yet their government isn't siding with Israel rallying around the notion of keeping people living in abject poverty

[Hugo]

Must admit one of my pet hates is keyboard warriors slagging off the UN. People from all political sides and angles do it. Stuff like "let just disband the UN, it is a pointless waste of time". I'm pretty sure the kids in receipt of their aid don't think so.

There is a limit to what they can do but they do their best, they provide humanitarian relief and they send their people in where the missiles and the bullets are flying. It is a very noble institution that reflects the best of humanity namely a desire to work collaboratively across ethic, cultural and national lines to support those in dire need. Its hardly their fault that their work is undone by the bloodthirsty and uncompromising nature of mankind.

[assfly]

Emotional loadshedding

Have you ever been to SA? Just curious.

[Uncle fester]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... dApp_Other

Well there you have it.
No state for Palestinians as Israel will control their territory but I'm guessing Israeli citizenship won't be in the pipeline either.
A permanently oppressed people with no prospects of improvement because it will create an Arab majority within this new "one state to rule them all".

In any future arrangement … Israel needs security control all territory west of the Jordan. This collides with the idea of sovereignty. What can you do?

Unfortunate choice of words considering that pro-Palestinian voices have been cancelled saying the same thing but I guess it's only hate speech when it's not Israel saying it.

[C69]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... dApp_Other

Well there you have it.
No state for Palestinians as Israel will control their territory but I'm guessing Israeli citizenship won't be in the pipeline either.
A permanently oppressed people with no prospects of improvement because it will create an Arab majority within this new "one state to rule them all".

In any future arrangement … Israel needs security control all territory west of the Jordan. This collides with the idea of sovereignty. What can you do?

Unfortunate choice of words considering that pro-Palestinian voices have been cancelled saying the same thing but I guess it's only hate speech when it's not Israel saying it.

From the River to the Sea springs to mind.
Now rephrased as all territory west of Jordan.

[Hugo]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... dApp_Other

Well there you have it.
No state for Palestinians as Israel will control their territory but I'm guessing Israeli citizenship won't be in the pipeline either.
A permanently oppressed people with no prospects of improvement because it will create an Arab majority within this new "one state to rule them all".

In any future arrangement … Israel needs security control all territory west of the Jordan. This collides with the idea of sovereignty. What can you do?

Unfortunate choice of words considering that pro-Palestinian voices have been cancelled saying the same thing but I guess it's only hate speech when it's not Israel saying it.

Indeed. Btw, this was a link to that article, It is imprisoning journalists at a rate equivalent to an authoritarian regime. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/ ... ned-israel

[Hugo]

One thing Hamas has suceeded in doing is exposing for all the world to see precisely how intolerant Israel is toward the Palestinian people. If they are prepared to bomb Gaza to dust in front of a worldwide audience you can only imagine the day to day indignities that are visited upon Palestinians when no-one is watching.

A UN rights expert has said that Israel has broken international law with its “relentless” bombardment of Gaza that has levelled neighbourhoods and collapsed the territory’s healthcare system.

Francesca Albanese, the UN special rapporteur on the Palestinian territories, said at a Madrid news conference on Thursday:

Israel has done a number of things that are highly illegal, highly unlawful.

She said that while Israel has the right to self-defence, international humanitarian law must be respected “to protect people who are not actively involved in combat,” AFP reported.

Albanese said she “firmly condemned” the violence carried out by Hamas in Israel – which she said amounted to war crimes and may also be crimes against humanity –but “nothing justifies what Israel has done”. She said:

What has happened is over 100 days of relentless bombing – the first two weeks using 6,000 bombs per week, bombs of 2,000 pounds, in highly crowded area.

Most hospitals in Gaza had been made “dysfunctional”, she said, adding that most Palestinians are dying now “not because of the bombs but because there is not sufficient infrastructure to cure them of wounds.” Albanese added:

The number of kids who get amputated every day is shocking, one or two limbs. During the first two months of this (war) 1,000 kids were amputated without anaesthesia. It is a monstrosity.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... dApp_Other

[Kiwias]

This is going to end well, NOT.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/isra ... es-unknown

[Gumboot]

When I was travelling through SE Asia back in the day, the Israeli backpackers had the worst reputation by far for being arseholes to their local hosts.

One of the poor workers at a hostel on Khaosan Rd woke me up at some ungodly hour pleading for help coz these aggro cunts refused to leave or even acknowledge that it was only an hour or so away from them getting up to another day of hard yakka.

And then they refused to keep speaking English and got even more belligerent, waking up veryone else in the process!

A nastier bunch of fuckers you would not want to meet...

[Gumboot]

[Hugo]

When I was travelling through SE Asia back in the day, the Israeli backpackers had the worst reputation by far for being arseholes to their local hosts.

One of the poor workers at a hostel on Khaosan Rd woke me up at some ungodly hour pleading for help coz these aggro cunts refused to leave or even acknowledge that it was only an hour or so away from them getting up to another day of hard yakka.

And then they refused to keep speaking English and got even more belligerent, waking up veryone else in the process!

A nastier bunch of fuckers you would not want to meet...

I think Sandstorm has shared similar sentiments.

[lemonhead]

One thing Hamas has suceeded in doing is exposing for all the world to see precisely how intolerant Israel is toward the Palestinian people. If they are prepared to bomb Gaza to dust in front of a worldwide audience you can only imagine the day to day indignities that are visited upon Palestinians when no-one is watching.

A UN rights expert has said that Israel has broken international law with its “relentless” bombardment of Gaza that has levelled neighbourhoods and collapsed the territory’s healthcare system.

Francesca Albanese, the UN special rapporteur on the Palestinian territories, said at a Madrid news conference on Thursday:

Israel has done a number of things that are highly illegal, highly unlawful.

She said that while Israel has the right to self-defence, international humanitarian law must be respected “to protect people who are not actively involved in combat,” AFP reported.

Albanese said she “firmly condemned” the violence carried out by Hamas in Israel – which she said amounted to war crimes and may also be crimes against humanity –but “nothing justifies what Israel has done”. She said:

What has happened is over 100 days of relentless bombing – the first two weeks using 6,000 bombs per week, bombs of 2,000 pounds, in highly crowded area.

Most hospitals in Gaza had been made “dysfunctional”, she said, adding that most Palestinians are dying now “not because of the bombs but because there is not sufficient infrastructure to cure them of wounds.” Albanese added:

The number of kids who get amputated every day is shocking, one or two limbs. During the first two months of this (war) 1,000 kids were amputated without anaesthesia. It is a monstrosity.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... dApp_Other

And in response, the world mutters and does f#ck all.

Can't quite believe Netanyahu's mob are getting away with it. Won't end without outside intervention.

* For the record, f#ck Hamas too btw

[Gumboot]

When I was travelling through SE Asia back in the day, the Israeli backpackers had the worst reputation by far for being arseholes to their local hosts.

One of the poor workers at a hostel on Khaosan Rd woke me up at some ungodly hour pleading for help coz these aggro cunts refused to leave or even acknowledge that it was only an hour or so away from them getting up to another day of hard yakka.

And then they refused to keep speaking English and got even more belligerent, waking up veryone else in the process!

A nastier bunch of fuckers you would not want to meet...

I think Sandstorm has shared similar sentiments.

They were the exception, of course. The vast majority of fellow travellers were good cnuts iirc...

[I like neeps]

This is going to end well, NOT.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/isra ... es-unknown

The US want it, the Saudi led coalition in the ME want it. A Palestinian state is inevitable.

[Slick]

When I was travelling through SE Asia back in the day, the Israeli backpackers had the worst reputation by far for being arseholes to their local hosts.

One of the poor workers at a hostel on Khaosan Rd woke me up at some ungodly hour pleading for help coz these aggro cunts refused to leave or even acknowledge that it was only an hour or so away from them getting up to another day of hard yakka.

And then they refused to keep speaking English and got even more belligerent, waking up veryone else in the process!

A nastier bunch of fuckers you would not want to meet...

I think Sandstorm has shared similar sentiments.

Me also, always, always a bunch of absolute arseholes.

I remember being in a mini bus with a particularly abusive bunch who were just being such horrendous cunts to the driver that me and another lad eventually got him to pull over and dragged the cunts out in the middle of no where and left them.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

One thing Hamas has suceeded in doing is exposing for all the world to see precisely how intolerant Israel is toward the Palestinian people. If they are prepared to bomb Gaza to dust in front of a worldwide audience you can only imagine the day to day indignities that are visited upon Palestinians when no-one is watching.

A UN rights expert has said that Israel has broken international law with its “relentless” bombardment of Gaza that has levelled neighbourhoods and collapsed the territory’s healthcare system.

Francesca Albanese, the UN special rapporteur on the Palestinian territories, said at a Madrid news conference on Thursday:

Israel has done a number of things that are highly illegal, highly unlawful.

She said that while Israel has the right to self-defence, international humanitarian law must be respected “to protect people who are not actively involved in combat,” AFP reported.

Albanese said she “firmly condemned” the violence carried out by Hamas in Israel – which she said amounted to war crimes and may also be crimes against humanity –but “nothing justifies what Israel has done”. She said:

What has happened is over 100 days of relentless bombing – the first two weeks using 6,000 bombs per week, bombs of 2,000 pounds, in highly crowded area.

Most hospitals in Gaza had been made “dysfunctional”, she said, adding that most Palestinians are dying now “not because of the bombs but because there is not sufficient infrastructure to cure them of wounds.” Albanese added:

The number of kids who get amputated every day is shocking, one or two limbs. During the first two months of this (war) 1,000 kids were amputated without anaesthesia. It is a monstrosity.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... dApp_Other

And in response, the world mutters and does f#ck all.

Can't quite believe Netanyahu's mob are getting away with it. Won't end without outside intervention.

* For the record, f#ck Hamas too btw

If half a million Westerners moved into Palestine as a human shield that would be the world doing something, but people by and large don't want to help, not themselves

[I like neeps]

One thing Hamas has suceeded in doing is exposing for all the world to see precisely how intolerant Israel is toward the Palestinian people. If they are prepared to bomb Gaza to dust in front of a worldwide audience you can only imagine the day to day indignities that are visited upon Palestinians when no-one is watching.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... dApp_Other

And in response, the world mutters and does f#ck all.

Can't quite believe Netanyahu's mob are getting away with it. Won't end without outside intervention.

* For the record, f#ck Hamas too btw

If half a million Westerners moved into Palestine as a human shield that would be the world doing something, but people by and large don't want to help, not themselves

People don't want to go into a country that they can't enter, and die of shelling/starvation/sickness. By Joe that is searing insight.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

And in response, the world mutters and does f#ck all.

Can't quite believe Netanyahu's mob are getting away with it. Won't end without outside intervention.

* For the record, f#ck Hamas too btw

If half a million Westerners moved into Palestine as a human shield that would be the world doing something, but people by and large don't want to help, not themselves

People don't want to go into a country that they can't enter, and die of shelling/starvation/sickness. By Joe that is searing insight.

Indeed, people do not want to (potentially) sacrifice themselves and then want to whine other people don't act in such fashion.

And if half a million people tried to force entry they could do it, and then we'd find out if Israel is happy to shell Westeners

[Uncle fester]

If half a million Westerners moved into Palestine as a human shield that would be the world doing something, but people by and large don't want to help, not themselves

People don't want to go into a country that they can't enter, and die of shelling/starvation/sickness. By Joe that is searing insight.

Indeed, people do not want to (potentially) sacrifice themselves and then want to whine other people don't act in such fashion.

And if half a million people tried to force entry they could do it, and then we'd find out if Israel is happy to shell Westeners

They have killed UN peacekeepers so I don't think they'll worry about "accidentally" dropping bombs on Western civilians "who shouldn't have been there anyway".

[Uncle fester]

When I was travelling through SE Asia back in the day, the Israeli backpackers had the worst reputation by far for being arseholes to their local hosts.

One of the poor workers at a hostel on Khaosan Rd woke me up at some ungodly hour pleading for help coz these aggro cunts refused to leave or even acknowledge that it was only an hour or so away from them getting up to another day of hard yakka.

And then they refused to keep speaking English and got even more belligerent, waking up veryone else in the process!

A nastier bunch of fuckers you would not want to meet...

I think Sandstorm has shared similar sentiments.

Most of them would be straight off a year of military service and if it's anything like what the work colleagues have described, they aren't really fit for human company.

[boere wors]

When I was travelling through SE Asia back in the day, the Israeli backpackers had the worst reputation by far for being arseholes to their local hosts.

One of the poor workers at a hostel on Khaosan Rd woke me up at some ungodly hour pleading for help coz these aggro cunts refused to leave or even acknowledge that it was only an hour or so away from them getting up to another day of hard yakka.

And then they refused to keep speaking English and got even more belligerent, waking up veryone else in the process!

A nastier bunch of fuckers you would not want to meet...

I think Sandstorm has shared similar sentiments.

Most of them would be straight off a year of military service and if it's anything like what the work colleagues have described, they aren't really fit for human company.

3 years!

[I like neeps]

If half a million Westerners moved into Palestine as a human shield that would be the world doing something, but people by and large don't want to help, not themselves

People don't want to go into a country that they can't enter, and die of shelling/starvation/sickness. By Joe that is searing insight.

Indeed, people do not want to (potentially) sacrifice themselves and then want to whine other people don't act in such fashion.

And if half a million people tried to force entry they could do it, and then we'd find out if Israel is happy to shell Westeners

One of the all time unserious posts, chapeau.

[Guy Smiley]

When I was travelling through SE Asia back in the day, the Israeli backpackers had the worst reputation by far for being arseholes to their local hosts.

One of the poor workers at a hostel on Khaosan Rd woke me up at some ungodly hour pleading for help coz these aggro cunts refused to leave or even acknowledge that it was only an hour or so away from them getting up to another day of hard yakka.

And then they refused to keep speaking English and got even more belligerent, waking up veryone else in the process!

A nastier bunch of fuckers you would not want to meet...

I’ve had a similar experience in Nepal… with the pleasant exception of one couple who were really cool, nice company and admitted their country folk were cunce.

[Flockwitt]

When I was travelling through SE Asia back in the day, the Israeli backpackers had the worst reputation by far for being arseholes to their local hosts.

One of the poor workers at a hostel on Khaosan Rd woke me up at some ungodly hour pleading for help coz these aggro cunts refused to leave or even acknowledge that it was only an hour or so away from them getting up to another day of hard yakka.

And then they refused to keep speaking English and got even more belligerent, waking up veryone else in the process!

A nastier bunch of fuckers you would not want to meet...

I’ve had a similar experience in Nepal… with the pleasant exception of one couple who were really cool, nice company and admitted their country folk were cunce.

Yep, can attest to this, back in the day the prize tossers on the road were the Saffers and the Israelis. The Saffers got over it, but the Israelis have their issues in many instances.

[Ymx]

Must admit one of my pet hates is keyboard warriors slagging off the UN. People from all political sides and angles do it. Stuff like "let just disband the UN, it is a pointless waste of time". I'm pretty sure the kids in receipt of their aid don't think so.

There is a limit to what they can do but they do their best, they provide humanitarian relief and they send their people in where the missiles and the bullets are flying. It is a very noble institution that reflects the best of humanity namely a desire to work collaboratively across ethic, cultural and national lines to support those in dire need. Its hardly their fault that their work is undone by the bloodthirsty and uncompromising nature of mankind.

This is simply not believable given their presence (UNRWA) and given the sheer distance of the underground network

[Hugo]

One thing Hamas has suceeded in doing is exposing for all the world to see precisely how intolerant Israel is toward the Palestinian people. If they are prepared to bomb Gaza to dust in front of a worldwide audience you can only imagine the day to day indignities that are visited upon Palestinians when no-one is watching.

A UN rights expert has said that Israel has broken international law with its “relentless” bombardment of Gaza that has levelled neighbourhoods and collapsed the territory’s healthcare system.

Francesca Albanese, the UN special rapporteur on the Palestinian territories, said at a Madrid news conference on Thursday:

Israel has done a number of things that are highly illegal, highly unlawful.

She said that while Israel has the right to self-defence, international humanitarian law must be respected “to protect people who are not actively involved in combat,” AFP reported.

Albanese said she “firmly condemned” the violence carried out by Hamas in Israel – which she said amounted to war crimes and may also be crimes against humanity –but “nothing justifies what Israel has done”. She said:

What has happened is over 100 days of relentless bombing – the first two weeks using 6,000 bombs per week, bombs of 2,000 pounds, in highly crowded area.

Most hospitals in Gaza had been made “dysfunctional”, she said, adding that most Palestinians are dying now “not because of the bombs but because there is not sufficient infrastructure to cure them of wounds.” Albanese added:

The number of kids who get amputated every day is shocking, one or two limbs. During the first two months of this (war) 1,000 kids were amputated without anaesthesia. It is a monstrosity.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... dApp_Other

And in response, the world mutters and does f#ck all.

Can't quite believe Netanyahu's mob are getting away with it. Won't end without outside intervention.

* For the record, f#ck Hamas too btw

Yes, the way the world is just sitting & watching as this tragedy unfolds is pretty damning.

iIn addition to South Africa, Mexico & Chile referred the situation to the ICC which is at leas. Something.

[Uncle fester]

Brave kid.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... dApp_Other

[Ymx]

Hamas need to be destroyed. It can’t end until then.

https://www.thisishamas.com/

Fvck anyone calling to protect Hamas with a ceasefire, quite frankly !

[Slick]

Hamas need to be destroyed. It can’t end until then.

https://www.thisishamas.com/

Fvck anyone calling to protect Hamas with a ceasefire, quite frankly !

How many dead and maimed children is a reasonable number to achieve this aim?

[Ymx]

The fewer the better. But Hamas absolutely have to be destroyed.

[Uncle fester]

The fight has gone out of you Dinghy boy.
You've been reduced to popping up with soundbites and running away from what is actually being discussed.

[Ymx]

Did you look at that web link video?

What did you think about it?

Was it just a soundbite for you.

[Ymx]

Re: the next generation will get indoctrinated …

The children of Gaza are already subject to constant propaganda.

I sent an earlier video on little Palestinian school kids talking about how there aspirations are to kill Jews.

Here is another cute treat for the really young ones.



Until Hamas are gone, this doesn’t ever go away.

Hope they might stop cowardly hiding behind civilians, and civilian buildings.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Hamas need to be destroyed. It can’t end until then.

https://www.thisishamas.com/

Fvck anyone calling to protect Hamas with a ceasefire, quite frankly !

How many dead and maimed children is a reasonable number to achieve this aim?

The better question, in so much at least is it's one Israel may care about it, is can one destroy Hamas, or at least can one destroy Hamas with guns and bombs?

To steal a line from Steve Hughes we find Israel is currently claiming theirs is good terror, and I suspect a lot of people remain unconvinced. Supposing even every single member of Hams was eviscerated today and tomorrow the entire supply chain was dismantled in their absence it's still hard to see what stops a new Hamas being born the next day again.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

People don't want to go into a country that they can't enter, and die of shelling/starvation/sickness. By Joe that is searing insight.

Indeed, people do not want to (potentially) sacrifice themselves and then want to whine other people don't act in such fashion.

And if half a million people tried to force entry they could do it, and then we'd find out if Israel is happy to shell Westeners

One of the all time unserious posts, chapeau.

Yes, but also no. There are a lot of people gnashing their teeth right up until the opportunity for them to act is presented, at which point suddenly it's not so serious an issue.

[Slick]

Re: the next generation will get indoctrinated …

The children of Gaza are already subject to constant propaganda.

I sent an earlier video on little Palestinian school kids talking about how there aspirations are to kill Jews.

Here is another cute treat for the really young ones.



Until Hamas are gone, this doesn’t ever go away.

Hope they might stop cowardly hiding behind civilians, and civilian buildings.

I suppose killing them before they become really indoctrinated is one way to stop it.

[Ymx]

No, it won’t. The entire indoctrination regime needs to be dismantled.

Hamas operates a vast and diversified apparatus to indoctrinate children from a very young age to love jihad and devote their lives to fighting the Jews, and to seek martyrdom as the ultimate glory that is highly rewarded in Paradise. This indoctrination is complemented and amplified by parents, especially mothers, who express joy over their children's martyrdom and willingness to sacrifice all their children to the cause[1].



As part of this indoctrination – which is carried out via multiple platforms, such as Hamas' kindergartens, schools and summer camps – children are taught that waging jihad is a religious duty and that martyrdom earns the believer a greater reward in heaven than any other action or virtue. The objective of jihad, they learn, is to liberate Palestine, from the river to the sea, from the Jews, who have no right to exist there, and to eliminate the state of Israel. The messages imparted to children is replete with antisemitic motifs that demonize the Jews, presenting them as the eternal enemies of the Muslims, as subhuman "descendants of apes and pigs," and as bloodthirsty savages with whom no dialogue or reconciliation is possible.

In addition to ideological and religious indoctrination, young children and teens also receive intensive military training as preparation for joining Hamas' military wing or one of the other terror organizations as adults. This training takes place in Hamas' schools, but especially in the organization's vast network of summer camps. Attended by hundreds of thousands of participants every year, the camps cultivate a "spirit of resistance" and instill a commitment to uncompromising armed struggle against Israel, while also teaching a wide range of combat skills. Many of them are named after terrorists who carried armed operations and suicide attacks against Israeli civilians. Alongside Quran lessons, sports activities, games and entertainment, the camps offer extensive military indoctrination and activities, often carried out by members of Hamas's military wing, the 'Izz Al-Din Al-Qassam Brigades. These activities include training with knives and firearms (in some cases with live ammunition); hand-to-hand combat; marching and foot drills, and tunnel combat. Campers also stage plays and enact scenes of fighting and capturing Israeli soldiers or firing rockets into Israel. Many activities are themed around the liberation of Jerusalem and Al-Aqsa, or deal with commemorating and glorifying terrorists.

Another major platform for indoctrination is Hamas' media. Its television channels, for example, air programs, some aimed at preschoolers, that inculcate values of jihad and martyrdom and glorify terrorists through cartoons, songs, poems and puppet shows. Many of the shows, as well as Hamas rallies and conferences, feature children who articulate the movement's ideology.

Programs aired on Hamas' television channels have shown kindergarten children, dressed in uniforms and armed with mock weapons, staging plays that simulate military attacks and hostage taking.

The following are reports and clips published by MEMRI over the years demonstrating Hamas' indoctrination and training of children to jihad and martyrdom.

[Slick]

No, it won’t. The entire indoctrination regime needs to be dismantled.

So back to the original question, how many dead and maimed kids is acceptable, in your view, to achieve this?

I haven't commented much on this thread because, frankly, I think they are all cunts. But this continuing massacre of children is beginning to grate a little.

[Tichtheid]

Ymx doesn’t say who or what his sources are, but googling the first paragraph of the one posted at 11:22am and then looking at the source, wiki describes them as

The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), officially the Middle East Media and Research Institute,[1] is an American non-profit press monitoring and analysis organization that was co-founded by Israeli ex-intelligence officer Yigal Carmon and Israeli-American political scientist Meyrav Wurmser in 1997. It publishes and distributes free copies of media reports that have been translated into English—primarily from Arabic and Persian, but also from Urdu, Turkish, Pashto, and Russian.[5]

Critics describe MEMRI as a strongly pro-Israel advocacy group that, in spite of describing itself as being "independent" and "non-partisan" in nature,[6][7][8] aims to portray the Arab world and the Muslim world in a negative light by producing and disseminating incomplete or inaccurate translations of the original versions of the media reports that it re-publishes.[9][10] It has also been accused of selectively focusing on the views of Islamic extremists while de-emphasizing or ignoring mainstream opinions

It could be, of course, that the article was reprinted elsewhere and that was where Ymx picked it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ea ... _Institute

The tweet earlier was from Eylon Levy

Eylon Aslan Levy is an official Israeli government spokesman, serving since the start of 2023 Israel–Hamas war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eylon_Levy

[I like neeps]

Indeed, people do not want to (potentially) sacrifice themselves and then want to whine other people don't act in such fashion.

And if half a million people tried to force entry they could do it, and then we'd find out if Israel is happy to shell Westeners

One of the all time unserious posts, chapeau.

Yes, but also no. There are a lot of people gnashing their teeth right up until the opportunity for them to act is presented, at which point suddenly it's not so serious an issue.

There are very few to no actions individuals can actually take though. But it is totally unserious to suggest that people go to Palestine. (A) Israel/Egypt aren't letting enough people into Israel/Egypt for some mass overcoming on the militarised borders and that's not taking into account there's not really even the transport options for that and (b) a few individuals aren't getting in anyway because as said, it's a militarised borders.