Congrats Ireland 6N champs !!
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Cheers. Great to have it, especially after our world cup win last year.
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Incidentally, it's never been won back to back in the six nations and I don't think this year will be any different.
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The 6 Nations need the Springboks.
I’ve never thought about that before.
That’s a great idea.
You probably need to ditch a couple too. Perhaps Wales and Scotland??
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Ymx wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:53 pmI’ve never thought about that before.
That’s a great idea.
You probably need to ditch a couple too. Perhaps Wales and Scotland??

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On a more serious note, France look lost without du Pont. Ireland next level It's going to be a massive June series against them.
Suffocating in defence, clinical in the oppo's 22, solid set piece and rarely lose the collisions - hard to see any of the other sides coping with them unless they become victims of an unfortunate red - and their discipline is normally excellent as well - so more likely to happen to their oppo than them !
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That's one of the benefits of keeping the ball & not just kicking it aimlessly away.Ovals wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:14 pm Suffocating in defence, clinical in the oppo's 22, solid set piece and rarely lose the collisions - hard to see any of the other sides coping with them unless they become victims of an unfortunate red - and their discipline is normally excellent as well - so more likely to happen to their oppo than them !
The onus is on the defender to not fuck up their tackle heights, & the more tackles they make, the more perilous the situation gets that you'll cop a card. Get inside the oppos 22, & the percentages get even worse !
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Rests on Twickenham, and England don't scare me.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:55 pm Incidentally, it's never been won back to back in the six nations and I don't think this year will be any different.
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Except that a lot of cards come from attackers clearing out at rucks !!fishfoodie wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:19 pmThat's one of the benefits of keeping the ball & not just kicking it aimlessly away.Ovals wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:14 pm Suffocating in defence, clinical in the oppo's 22, solid set piece and rarely lose the collisions - hard to see any of the other sides coping with them unless they become victims of an unfortunate red - and their discipline is normally excellent as well - so more likely to happen to their oppo than them !
The onus is on the defender to not fuck up their tackle heights, & the more tackles they make, the more perilous the situation gets that you'll cop a card. Get inside the oppos 22, & the percentages get even worse !
Ireland kick the shit out of it, bro. 33 kicks to France's 20 on Friday. JGP's relentless kicking accuracy allied to the catching prowess of the back three and Lowe's siege gun boot are a big part of their success. Absolutely no link between the kicking game and red cards.fishfoodie wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:19 pmThat's one of the benefits of keeping the ball & not just kicking it aimlessly away.Ovals wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:14 pm Suffocating in defence, clinical in the oppo's 22, solid set piece and rarely lose the collisions - hard to see any of the other sides coping with them unless they become victims of an unfortunate red - and their discipline is normally excellent as well - so more likely to happen to their oppo than them !
The onus is on the defender to not fuck up their tackle heights, & the more tackles they make, the more perilous the situation gets that you'll cop a card. Get inside the oppos 22, & the percentages get even worse !
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Key word is "aimlessly". When it's on in the opposition half, ball is kept in hand.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:14 amIreland kick the shit out of it, bro. 33 kicks to France's 20 on Friday. JGP's relentless kicking accuracy allied to the catching prowess of the back three and Lowe's siege gun boot are a big part of their success. Absolutely no link between the kicking game and red cards.fishfoodie wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:19 pmThat's one of the benefits of keeping the ball & not just kicking it aimlessly away.Ovals wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:14 pm Suffocating in defence, clinical in the oppo's 22, solid set piece and rarely lose the collisions - hard to see any of the other sides coping with them unless they become victims of an unfortunate red - and their discipline is normally excellent as well - so more likely to happen to their oppo than them !
The onus is on the defender to not fuck up their tackle heights, & the more tackles they make, the more perilous the situation gets that you'll cop a card. Get inside the oppos 22, & the percentages get even worse !
Uncle fester wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:32 amKey word is "aimlessly". When it's on in the opposition half, ball is kept in hand.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:14 amIreland kick the shit out of it, bro. 33 kicks to France's 20 on Friday. JGP's relentless kicking accuracy allied to the catching prowess of the back three and Lowe's siege gun boot are a big part of their success. Absolutely no link between the kicking game and red cards.fishfoodie wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:19 pm
That's one of the benefits of keeping the ball & not just kicking it aimlessly away.
The onus is on the defender to not fuck up their tackle heights, & the more tackles they make, the more perilous the situation gets that you'll cop a card. Get inside the oppos 22, & the percentages get even worse !
The claim is that keeping ball in hand is what prevents the cards. Ireland kick the hell out of it. Aimless kick or accurate kick isn't going to be the deciding factor on whether it leads to more cards.
I am bloody nervous about the tour. Ireland look very good and they have our number. Our last win against them was when they toured here in 2016!OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:32 pm On a more serious note, France look lost without du Pont. Ireland next level It's going to be a massive June series against them.
We are going to have to be at the top of our game, or Ireland are going to make history on another SH tour.
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Part of the problem with having a player as good as Dupont is that the team can come to rely on him being brilliant rather than their structures and systems. He also rarely gets substituted, so his back ups have very little experience playing in tests. It takes a special player to overcome that and Lucu isn't that. France looked much better when Lucu went off and Le Garrec came on.OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:32 pm On a more serious note, France look lost without du Pont. Ireland next level It's going to be a massive June series against them.
I don't think Lucu is as bad as he seemed to be on Friday, however, what you say is true.sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:20 pmPart of the problem with having a player as good as Dupont is that the team can come to rely on him being brilliant rather than their structures and systems. He also rarely gets substituted, so his back ups have very little experience playing in tests. It takes a special player to overcome that and Lucu isn't that. France looked much better when Lucu went off and Le Garrec came on.OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:32 pm On a more serious note, France look lost without du Pont. Ireland next level It's going to be a massive June series against them.
There is rarely a 6N without a couple of twists and turns so not giving it to Ireland yet.
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It's downright ludicrous that this is even a conversation after the first week. Favourites for the title sure, I'll take that, but being favourite is no sure thing. Grand Slam talk is fucking nuts until the final weekend.Slick wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:56 amI don't think Lucu is as bad as he seemed to be on Friday, however, what you say is true.sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:20 pmPart of the problem with having a player as good as Dupont is that the team can come to rely on him being brilliant rather than their structures and systems. He also rarely gets substituted, so his back ups have very little experience playing in tests. It takes a special player to overcome that and Lucu isn't that. France looked much better when Lucu went off and Le Garrec came on.OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:32 pm On a more serious note, France look lost without du Pont. Ireland next level It's going to be a massive June series against them.
There is rarely a 6N without a couple of twists and turns so not giving it to Ireland yet.
I also wish I could say that no Irish are talking like this, but unfortunately all this crazy talk is quite common with the media at the moment. Pride comes before a fall and all that!
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France is up and down (be aware Scotland) but as a neutral the Irish look a class above the rest. They got a special structure, even the u20s beating France at home.
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Scotland are not beating Ireland in Dublin. Slam is done.Ymx wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:33 pm God, sadly the above is not going to be risked.
Italy dogshit
Wales dogshit
England only just beat Italy and Wales, also dogshit.
France already played Ireland
Scotland??
Left hand down a bit
I dunno, I think England might pull out a one off game and beat them at TwickenhamS/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:21 pmScotland are not beating Ireland in Dublin. Slam is done.Ymx wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:33 pm God, sadly the above is not going to be risked.
Italy dogshit
Wales dogshit
England only just beat Italy and Wales, also dogshit.
France already played Ireland
Scotland??
But, no, we are not winning in Dublin.
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Ireland to put 30+ against all the teams. To classy for the rest.
This.Slick wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:26 amI dunno, I think England might pull out a one off game and beat them at TwickenhamS/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:21 pmScotland are not beating Ireland in Dublin. Slam is done.Ymx wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:33 pm God, sadly the above is not going to be risked.
Italy dogshit
Wales dogshit
England only just beat Italy and Wales, also dogshit.
France already played Ireland
Scotland??
But, no, we are not winning in Dublin.
Although all it takes is an Irish forward doing something idiotic early in a game a la POM in Cardiff in 2021 and all bets are off.
Good test to see if they can avoid shitting the bed.
Ian Madigan for Ireland.
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Could easily have a 2012 scenario.Jim Lahey wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:57 amThis.Slick wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:26 amI dunno, I think England might pull out a one off game and beat them at TwickenhamS/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:21 pm
Scotland are not beating Ireland in Dublin. Slam is done.
But, no, we are not winning in Dublin.
Although all it takes is an Irish forward doing something idiotic early in a game a la POM in Cardiff in 2021 and all bets are off.
Good test to see if they can avoid shitting the bed.
A few crucial injuries.
Porter gets crucified in the scrums.
England do their best belligerent refusal to lose.
Six nations are not won in Feb and there's a reason why nobody has done back to back slams.
Yup. It does very much feel like Ireland will walk this but just about every year throws up a surprise.Uncle fester wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:34 pmCould easily have a 2012 scenario.Jim Lahey wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:57 amThis.Slick wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:26 am
I dunno, I think England might pull out a one off game and beat them at Twickenham
But, no, we are not winning in Dublin.
Although all it takes is an Irish forward doing something idiotic early in a game a la POM in Cardiff in 2021 and all bets are off.
Good test to see if they can avoid shitting the bed.
A few crucial injuries.
Porter gets crucified in the scrums.
England do their best belligerent refusal to lose.
Six nations are not won in Feb and there's a reason why nobody has done back to back slams.
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Also Crowley gets kicking yips.Slick wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:26 amYup. It does very much feel like Ireland will walk this but just about every year throws up a surprise.Uncle fester wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:34 pmCould easily have a 2012 scenario.Jim Lahey wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:57 am
This.
Although all it takes is an Irish forward doing something idiotic early in a game a la POM in Cardiff in 2021 and all bets are off.
Good test to see if they can avoid shitting the bed.
A few crucial injuries.
Porter gets crucified in the scrums.
England do their best belligerent refusal to lose.
Six nations are not won in Feb and there's a reason why nobody has done back to back slams.
So no points from the boot, England refuse to cede the white line and the feral home support create a hostile intimidating atmosphere, then panic sets in.
The mockers won't be happy with that.Uncle fester wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:03 pmAlso Crowley gets kicking yips.Slick wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:26 amYup. It does very much feel like Ireland will walk this but just about every year throws up a surprise.Uncle fester wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:34 pm
Could easily have a 2012 scenario.
A few crucial injuries.
Porter gets crucified in the scrums.
England do their best belligerent refusal to lose.
Six nations are not won in Feb and there's a reason why nobody has done back to back slams.
So no points from the boot, England refuse to cede the white line and the feral home support create a hostile intimidating atmosphere, then panic sets in.
Nailed on for the GS, you guys won't choke in the 6N. It's not the RWC FFS.
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Reverse mockers doesn't work but I do enjoy your seething.
What! At Twickenham?Uncle fester wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:03 pmAlso Crowley gets kicking yips.Slick wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:26 amYup. It does very much feel like Ireland will walk this but just about every year throws up a surprise.Uncle fester wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:34 pm
Could easily have a 2012 scenario.
A few crucial injuries.
Porter gets crucified in the scrums.
England do their best belligerent refusal to lose.
Six nations are not won in Feb and there's a reason why nobody has done back to back slams.
So no points from the boot, England refuse to cede the white line and the feral home support create a hostile intimidating atmosphere, then panic sets in.



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The Irish hate being favourites.
They should be putting at least a 15 point victory past this England team.
They should be putting at least a 15 point victory past this England team.
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Was wondering if anybody would pick up on that.SaintK wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:44 amWhat! At Twickenham?Uncle fester wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:03 pmAlso Crowley gets kicking yips.Slick wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:26 am
Yup. It does very much feel like Ireland will walk this but just about every year throws up a surprise.
So no points from the boot, England refuse to cede the white line and the feral home support create a hostile intimidating atmosphere, then panic sets in.![]()
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Other points are serious though.
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Small reminder that we play Wales next and without Keenan, we may as well be playing with 14.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:36 am The Irish hate being favourites.
They should be putting at least a 15 point victory past this England team.
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You really won't need him to play this Wales team.Uncle fester wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:25 pmSmall reminder that we play Wales next and without Keenan, we may as well be playing with 14.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:36 am The Irish hate being favourites.
They should be putting at least a 15 point victory past this England team.