Stop voting for fucking Tories

[C69]

Popcorn time indeed. I suspect the corrupt Ms Moan will also wash her dirty underwear in public as well.
It's hard to keep abreast of these issues which are now going postal it seems.

[SaintK]

Busy, busy today. Do they really think this shit is a vote winner?
Still, she's really polishing her credentials to the loons and ultras that will have a vote at the next Tory leadership contest.

Never one to turn down the chance for a good political fight, Kemi Badenoch, the business secretary, hasn’t just gone to war this week with the former chair of the Post Office. She has also used an article in the Daily Mail to condemn the actor Michael Sheen over a comment he made about the steel plant in Port Talbot. She said:

Promoting his new drama The Way, Michael Sheen has said that ‘the people of Port Talbot have been let down’ regarding redundancies at its steel plant.

But he is wrong. Port Talbot is iconic to British industry and that’s why the Government is investing so much to ensure we keep its steelworks for the next century at a time when the market says we should abandon it.

The first episode of The Way goes out on BBC One tonight and it’s a drama about a workers’ uprising in response to the closure of a steel plant in south Wales. The BBC insists its fictional, and not about the Tata factory in Port Talbot. Sheen is a supporter of leftwing causes, but the quote Badenoch refers to is from a Times interview about the drama in which Sheen was not even directly criticising the government.

[inactionman]

Busy, busy today. Do they really think this shit is a vote winner?
Still, she's really polishing her credentials to the loons and ultras that will have a vote at the next Tory leadership contest.

Never one to turn down the chance for a good political fight, Kemi Badenoch, the business secretary, hasn’t just gone to war this week with the former chair of the Post Office. She has also used an article in the Daily Mail to condemn the actor Michael Sheen over a comment he made about the steel plant in Port Talbot. She said:

Promoting his new drama The Way, Michael Sheen has said that ‘the people of Port Talbot have been let down’ regarding redundancies at its steel plant.

But he is wrong. Port Talbot is iconic to British industry and that’s why the Government is investing so much to ensure we keep its steelworks for the next century at a time when the market says we should abandon it.

The first episode of The Way goes out on BBC One tonight and it’s a drama about a workers’ uprising in response to the closure of a steel plant in south Wales. The BBC insists its fictional, and not about the Tata factory in Port Talbot. Sheen is a supporter of leftwing causes, but the quote Badenoch refers to is from a Times interview about the drama in which Sheen was not even directly criticising the government.

I'd usually say such ultra-defensiveness is a sign of nervousness or insecurity, but I think in this case it's just that Badenoch is an arse.

[inactionman]

Popcorn time indeed. I suspect the corrupt Ms Moan will also wash her dirty underwear in public as well.
It's hard to keep abreast of these issues which are now going postal it seems.

Heh.

[_Os_]

Busy, busy today. Do they really think this shit is a vote winner?
Still, she's really polishing her credentials to the loons and ultras that will have a vote at the next Tory leadership contest.

Badenoch is the worst of the lot. Over ambitious and under qualified, gets by through a mountain of bluster and bullshit, Big Dog without the charisma. Sometimes through all the lies you can see her actual ability, what does "Port Talbot is iconic to British industry" actually mean? It's nonsense.

Tory MPs apparently dislike her. She wasn't in favour of scrapping EU laws and wasn't in favour of leaving the ECHR. Tory MPs on the party's right will not support her, which means she'll be up against Mordaunt and Cleverly (and maybe someone like Ellwood who stands no chance) for the votes of MPs that want a unity candidate. They will have to get behind a single candidate to have a candidate in the final two, and that's probably not Badenoch. In the unlikely event members select one of these candidates, it would be smart of them to do what Sunak hasn't done and purge the party (Truss and Rees-Mogg should've had the whip withdrawn for speaking at Pop Con, Braverman for all the times she went against Sunak publicly whilst in the cabinet), after which they get the likes of Stewart/Gauke/May/Hammond/Grieve (Sunak has already added Cameron) back in and start trying to become electable again. Not convinced any of them understand that they're not in a normal centre right party anymore and a lot of their MPs and members need to be removed, Badenoch definitely doesn't.

The radical right wing candidate will come from the Pop Con/Nat Con types. Which means Truss/Braverman/Patel. They must know Braverman/Truss aren't viable, they're far too extreme and incompetent. Which leaves Patel who was also at Pop Con but didn't speak, she was a Spartan, she's a maximum level right wing loony. Her odds have been falling at the bookies. Patel is very close to Big Dog ("Protect the Prit-ster!") and Farage too (danced with him at the last Tory conference and her father was a UKIP candidate), she'll bring them both in. Her pitch to Tory members will be "vote for me and get Big Dog and Farage too" and maybe also "I'll get rid of the likes of Ellwood". Which will give Farage a chance at being leader after her and then becoming PM.

Gauke is convinced it'll be Patel.

[SaintK]

Busy, busy today. Do they really think this shit is a vote winner?
Still, she's really polishing her credentials to the loons and ultras that will have a vote at the next Tory leadership contest.

Badenoch is the worst of the lot. Over ambitious and under qualified, gets by through a mountain of bluster and bullshit, Big Dog without the charisma. Sometimes through all the lies you can see her actual ability, what does "Port Talbot is iconic to British industry" actually mean? It's nonsense.

Tory MPs apparently dislike her. She wasn't in favour of scrapping EU laws and wasn't in favour of leaving the ECHR. Tory MPs on the party's right will not support her, which means she'll be up against Mordaunt and Cleverly (and maybe someone like Ellwood who stands no chance) for the votes of MPs that want a unity candidate. They will have to get behind a single candidate to have a candidate in the final two, and that's probably not Badenoch. In the unlikely event members select one of these candidates, it would be smart of them to do what Sunak hasn't done and purge the party (Truss and Rees-Mogg should've had the whip withdrawn for speaking at Pop Con, Braverman for all the times she went against Sunak publicly whilst in the cabinet), after which they get the likes of Stewart/Gauke/May/Hammond/Grieve (Sunak has already added Cameron) back in and start trying to become electable again. Not convinced any of them understand that they're not in a normal centre right party anymore and a lot of their MPs and members need to be removed, Badenoch definitely doesn't.

The radical right wing candidate will come from the Pop Con/Nat Con types. Which means Truss/Braverman/Patel. They must know Braverman/Truss aren't viable, they're far too extreme and incompetent. Which leaves Patel who was also at Pop Con but didn't speak, she was a Spartan, she's a maximum level right wing loony. Her odds have been falling at the bookies. Patel is very close to Big Dog ("Protect the Prit-ster!") and Farage too (danced with him at the last Tory conference and her father was a UKIP candidate), she'll bring them both in. Her pitch to Tory members will be "vote me and get Big Dog and Farage too" and maybe also "I'll get rid of the likes of Ellwood". Which will give Farage a chance at being leader after her and then becoming PM.

Gauke is convinced it'll be Patel.

Can't be arsed to attend the Commons and make a statement and take questions.. So sends the oily rag Hollinrake.

It also emerged that Badenoch herself is not expected to be in the Commons this afternoon defending her conduct in this matter. Instead Kevin Hollinrake, the postal services minister, is expected to address MPs.

[_Os_]

Can't be arsed to attend the Commons and make a statement and take questions.. So sends the oily rag Hollinrake.

It also emerged that Badenoch herself is not expected to be in the Commons this afternoon defending her conduct in this matter. Instead Kevin Hollinrake, the postal services minister, is expected to address MPs.

Avoiding responsibility because she doesn't want this pinned on her. All her Tory rivals will be keen to do just that. Something which should be above political battles is now right in the middle of one.

A completely mad party. I've never seen a party anywhere with a death wish like this, and I've followed a lot of African and European politics.

[Hal Jordan]

They've driven out anyone even vaguely able to compromise and are left with a bunch of dregs who in any sane world would either never be selected to contest a seat, or would at the very most be a Junior Minister for Biscuit Procurement.

But the elevation of these profoundly useless and often stupid people (in terms of real world ability to combine book smarts with street smarts) has given them an inflated notion of their worth, which was pretty high to begin with, and also the utter conviction that their way.is not only right, but anyone suggesting otherwise, or even suggesting a modification is both wrong and disloyal to the True Faith.

[SaintK]

Can't be arsed to attend the Commons and make a statement and take questions.. So sends the oily rag Hollinrake.

It also emerged that Badenoch herself is not expected to be in the Commons this afternoon defending her conduct in this matter. Instead Kevin Hollinrake, the postal services minister, is expected to address MPs.

Avoiding responsibility because she doesn't want this pinned on her. All her Tory rivals will be keen to do just that. Something which should be above political battles is now right in the middle of one.

A completely mad party. I've never seen a party anywhere with a death wish like this, and I've followed a lot of African and European politics.

She has done a quick U turn and will now make a statement to the House at 4 15

[Hal Jordan]

"Woke trans boat travelling socialists did it!

[tabascoboy]

As someone once discovered:

Kemi Badenoch is an anagram of Bonehead Mick.

[_Os_]

The political incompetence of this. Anyone that's fair knows ministers were lied to and not to blame for the Post Office scandal, Ed Davey and the Lib Dems have taken a beating, not sure what they were supposed to do after they were given false info. Maybe you could go after some Tories for going slow after all the facts were known but it didn't have much public interest. It wasn't directly political in the way other scandals are.

But the Tories seem determined to wade into the scandal, to add a new chapter to it they're writing themselves, embroiling the scandal in their wish for tax cuts and when an election should be held. They'll end up owning the scandal if they keep going. This is total madness.

[sockwithaticket]

As a collective, the prominent members of the parliamentary conservative party, and any less prominent ones willing to step in front of a camera to run interference for someone notable, seem to have the political nous of a concussed sea cucumber.

[C69]

Staunton has replied to Bad Enoch's HOC claims labelling them all lies.
I suspect this is not going to end wellfor Bad Enoch, she is now in a public spat with a 75 year old Grandee of the City who really has very little to lose.
He apparently totally refutes and denies allknowledge of being investigated for bullying.
He has repeated the claims about the stalling until lthe election and has apparnetly made a personal note about this which was communicated by email contemporaneously to collegues and the Post Office.

[tabascoboy]

Staunton has replied to Bad Enoch's HOC claims labelling them all lies.
I suspect this is not going to end wellfor Bad Enoch, she is now in a public spat with a 75 year old Grandee of the City who really has very little to lose.
He apparently totally refutes and denies allknowledge of being investigated for bullying.
He has repeated the claims about the stalling until lthe election and has apparnetly made a personal note about this which was communicated by email contemporaneously to collegues and the Post Office.

It's a long message but...worth a look at the points made. Who to believe? If Staunton can back these up with evidence Badenoch looks like she was misleading the House ( not that it's viewed with any disfavour now...)

Firstly, with regard to the comment made to Mr Staunton by the senior civil servant to the effect that he was to stall on compensation payments to Horizon victims and on spend on the
Horizon replacement so the government could “limp into the election” with the lowest possible financial liability. Mr Staunton stands by this comment which he recorded at the
time in a file note which he emailed to himself and to colleagues and which is therefore traceable on the Post Office Server.

Secondly, Mr Stanton stands by his characterisation of the conversation with the Secretary of State in which he was informed of his dismissal.

Thirdly, with regard to the alleged failure to observe due process in respect of the proposed appointment of a senior independent director, this is once again a mischaracterisation of the
situation. What happened was that the Government via the UKGI had proposed for the post an external candidate with Whitehall experience. Initially the Board acquiesced, but when it
came to the Board for discussion, because so much had happened in the intervening four weeks the Board voted 6-2 to express clear preference to appoint a well qualified and in their
view better qualified internal candidate, Andrew Dafoor who was already a director, and understood the issues. The 6 included the chief executive. Of the two dissenters one was the
UKGI representative. Mr Staunton informed the Board that they would now have to go through a due process including a nomination committee, Board and shareholder approval
process and could not simply impose their preferred candidate. This was all at an early stage in the consultations, and could not be characterised as a breach of due process.

Fourthly, with regard to allegations of bullying behaviour, this is the first time the existence of such allegations have been mentioned, and Mr Staunton is not aware of any aspect of his
conduct which could give rise to such allegations. They were certainly not raised by the Secretary of State at any stage and certainly not during the conversation which led to Mr
Staunton’s dismissal. Such behaviour would in any case be totally out of character.

With regard to the appointment letter which the Department has chosen to publish, it should be noted that the reference to settlement with claimants is one of a number of issues arising
out of the Horizon issue that are listed and not necessarily the most prominent. It should also be noted that if indeed the Secretary of State were concerned about the lack of urgency with
which it was being addressed, this was never raised in any of the quarterly review meetings to assess progress against these objectives. These meetings were fully minuted.

Last but not least, it should be noted that the Secretary of State has admitted that a letter was sent by the Post Office CEO to Alex Chalk setting out a legal opinion stating the reason so
few sub-postmasters had come forward to have their convictions overturned was because they were “guilty as charged”. That letter was set after the ITV documentary was screened and
after the government had set out a pledge to bring forward legislation to exonerate the postmasters.

As chairman, Mr Staunton championed the cause of the postmasters who he saw as the real backbone of the organisation and the best hope for the future. As a number of recent press
articles have indicated, historically postmasters were treated with contempt by much of the Post Office hierarchy, those attitudes were deeply entrenched and Mr Staunton fought hard
with their representatives on the Board and others including the CEO to change that culture.

Mr Staunton said: “It was in the interests of the business as well as being fair for the postmasters that there was faster progress on exoneration and that compensation for wrongly
convicted postmasters was more generous, but we didn’t see any real movement until after the Mister Bates programme.”

[Hal Jordan]

Ouch. The response of someone used to setting down a reasoned position in words against the hooting of an overpromoted milk monitor.

[fishfoodie]

Ouch. The response of someone used to setting down a reasoned position in words against the hooting of an overpromoted milk monitor.

The bullying allegation, if not supported by a written record somewhere in HR, should lead to a fucking huge lawsuit for defamation, & Badenochs political career going down the shitter with the rest of the turds.

She shows all the signs of yet another non-entity promoted far above any level of competence, & who surrounded herself with worm tongues telling her how clever she was, & has now ran into the cold harsh reality, that she isn't really that clever, or she wouldn't have fucked up this simple situation.

[C69]

Let's see what unfolds.

[SaintK]

Ouch. The response of someone used to setting down a reasoned position in words against the hooting of an overpromoted milk monitor.

The bullying allegation, if not supported by a written record somewhere in HR, should lead to a fucking huge lawsuit for defamation, & Badenochs political career going down the shitter with the rest of the turds.

She shows all the signs of yet another non-entity promoted far above any level of competence, & who surrounded herself with worm tongues telling her how clever she was, & has now ran into the cold harsh reality, that she isn't really that clever, or she wouldn't have fucked up this simple situation.

Quite!
Let's hope she's slowly painting herself into a corner. Would be very good if Staunton recorded their conversation.

[SaintK]

Pretty neat

[fishfoodie]

Another slimeball gone !

Blackpool South MP Scott Benton, who was caught in a lobbying scandal, has lost his appeal against a 35-day suspension from Parliament.

MPs will now vote whether to trigger a recall petition which could see the government facing a by-election.

Mr Benton was caught breaching Commons rules by offering to lobby ministers and table parliamentary questions on behalf of gambling investors.

He was elected as a Conservative in 2019 with a 3,690 majority.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-68348594

[C69]

By election in a red wall seat with Benton's majority 3,690.
This is going to get worse before it gets better for Sunak.

It feels like the death throes of a Zombie government now, I note the approval ratings are -2 for Starmer and -43 Sunak.
I suspect there are many more scandals to come on both sides. It is starting to feel like Sunak will lose een more support and Farage will pick up the pieces after the GE.
Perhaps like the Canadian Conservatie decimation and merger with the far right?

[fishfoodie]

By election in a red wall seat with Benton's majority 3,690.
This is going to get worse before it gets better for Sunak.

It feels like the death throes of a Zombie government now, I note the approval ratings are -2 for Starmer and -43 Sunak.
I suspect there are many more scandals to come on both sides. It is starting to feel like Sunak will lose een more support and Farage will pick up the pieces after the GE.
Perhaps like the Canadian Conservatie decimation and merger with the far right?

How about this for a senario.

Farage throws his lot in with Reform, citing Sunak as the reason why he won't support the Tories, too soft of immigration, raised taxes etc etc.

Reform then runs in enough seats in the GE to steal votes from the Tories, to give that Canada result.

Post election, Sunak gone, & some far-right non-entity made leader, Farage offers to merge his couple of MPs with the Tories in return for the Tories lurching even further to the right, & he (assuming he finally breaks his electoral duck), gets a plum office, like shadow Home Office.

[C69]

By election in a red wall seat with Benton's majority 3,690.
This is going to get worse before it gets better for Sunak.

It feels like the death throes of a Zombie government now, I note the approval ratings are -2 for Starmer and -43 Sunak.
I suspect there are many more scandals to come on both sides. It is starting to feel like Sunak will lose een more support and Farage will pick up the pieces after the GE.
Perhaps like the Canadian Conservatie decimation and merger with the far right?

How about this for a senario.

Farage throws his lot in with Reform, citing Sunak as the reason why he won't support the Tories, too soft of immigration, raised taxes etc etc.

Reform then runs in enough seats in the GE to steal votes from the Tories, to give that Canada result.

Post election, Sunak gone, & some far-right non-entity made leader, Farage offers to merge his couple of MPs with the Tories in return for the Tories lurching even further to the right, & he (assuming he finally breaks his electoral duck), gets a plum office, like shadow Home Office.

I think Reform and a few Tories know the game is up and the far right entryism into the Tory Party has been going on for years.
I suspect a new Tory Party will emerge after the (fingers crossed) decimation of the Tory Party.
A new right wing common sense Party based on populism, greater choice, immigration promises and Culture Wars.

[petej]

By election in a red wall seat with Benton's majority 3,690.
This is going to get worse before it gets better for Sunak.

It feels like the death throes of a Zombie government now, I note the approval ratings are -2 for Starmer and -43 Sunak.
I suspect there are many more scandals to come on both sides. It is starting to feel like Sunak will lose een more support and Farage will pick up the pieces after the GE.
Perhaps like the Canadian Conservatie decimation and merger with the far right?

Got to hope it gets so bad they aren't even the second largest party.

[tabascoboy]

By election in a red wall seat with Benton's majority 3,690.
This is going to get worse before it gets better for Sunak.

It feels like the death throes of a Zombie government now, I note the approval ratings are -2 for Starmer and -43 Sunak.
I suspect there are many more scandals to come on both sides. It is starting to feel like Sunak will lose een more support and Farage will pick up the pieces after the GE.
Perhaps like the Canadian Conservatie decimation and merger with the far right?

How about this for a senario.

Farage throws his lot in with Reform, citing Sunak as the reason why he won't support the Tories, too soft of immigration, raised taxes etc etc.

Reform then runs in enough seats in the GE to steal votes from the Tories, to give that Canada result.

Post election, Sunak gone, & some far-right non-entity made leader, Farage offers to merge his couple of MPs with the Tories in return for the Tories lurching even further to the right, & he (assuming he finally breaks his electoral duck), gets a plum office, like shadow Home Office.

I think Reform and a few Tories know the game is up and the far right entryism into the Tory Party has been going on for years.
I suspect a new Tory Party will emerge after the (fingers crossed) decimation of the Tory Party.
A new right wing common sense Party based on populism, greater choice, immigration promises and Culture Wars.

Make
England
Great
Again

...because they sure don't give a shit about the rest of the UK any more

[C69]

How about this for a senario.

Farage throws his lot in with Reform, citing Sunak as the reason why he won't support the Tories, too soft of immigration, raised taxes etc etc.

Reform then runs in enough seats in the GE to steal votes from the Tories, to give that Canada result.

Post election, Sunak gone, & some far-right non-entity made leader, Farage offers to merge his couple of MPs with the Tories in return for the Tories lurching even further to the right, & he (assuming he finally breaks his electoral duck), gets a plum office, like shadow Home Office.

I think Reform and a few Tories know the game is up and the far right entryism into the Tory Party has been going on for years.
I suspect a new Tory Party will emerge after the (fingers crossed) decimation of the Tory Party.
A new right wing common sense Party based on populism, greater choice, immigration promises and Culture Wars.

Make
England
Great
Again

...because they sure don't give a shit about the rest of the UK any more

[Hal Jordan]

It us important to note that not all Reform voters are Tory defectors, there is a sizeable amount who wouldn't ever vote Tory

[_Os_]

This is another landmine the Tories are leaving for Labour. A report on the agri sector which isn't being released, the key part being:

But at a series of meetings that year, officials raised concerns about the financial analysis and the scheme as a whole, and concluded it would be better not to publish them. Various reasons were given, with one official saying it was “a case of waiting for the political situation to settle”. Another said: “[it is] important we make sure ministers are happy with what we put out into the public environment – sensitivities around that.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... nts-scheme

In other words the report is being buried until after the GE. This is happening because a report that was supposed to show how it would be possible to run viable upland/hill farm businesses once the Basic Payment Scheme (which is EU derived) is fully replaced by Environmental Land Management, instead showed there is literally no way to run a viable upland farm once the UK has taken back control. In England entire rural communities will die.

The new scheme focuses on the environment and not production. Upland farms have poorer quality land, the farmers themselves are the poorest, and often tenants not landowners which makes changes to land use to get ELM payments after the production based BPS system is phased out more difficult. The Guardian article doesn't go into this much, but the new system is massively tilted towards the Tory voting south of England which has higher quality lowland land where it's possible for a wildflower meadow or whatever to exist, over the north of England which has poorer quality land and is less Tory voting.

The article focuses only on England, agri support is fully devolved. All the new schemes are more environment focused but there's a lot of variation, Wales/Scotland/NI all look more production focused than what's happening in England. In NI it's political too, Catholic farmers tend to be poorer tenant hill farmers and SF is now the largest party, they're not going to pay wealthy Protestant landowners not to farm without paying struggling Catholic non-landowners. Easy to see how once all the new payment structures are fully in place some English farmers are going to end up disadvantaged compared to Welsh/Scottish/NI farmers.

English farmers are starting to protest about their post-Brexit situation, there's polling which shows Labour now has a majority in rural English constituencies.

[tabascoboy]

By election in a red wall seat with Benton's majority 3,690.
This is going to get worse before it gets better for Sunak.

It feels like the death throes of a Zombie government now, I note the approval ratings are -2 for Starmer and -43 Sunak.
I suspect there are many more scandals to come on both sides. It is starting to feel like Sunak will lose een more support and Farage will pick up the pieces after the GE.
Perhaps like the Canadian Conservatie decimation and merger with the far right?

[Biffer]

Mirror large poll (18,000+ respondents) with the more advanced statistical analysis used by some pollsters now, shows The Tories collapsing to 80 seats, Labour with a majority of 254. SNP only down to 40 in Scotland in this analysis, (rather than using the standard swing method that is often used.), but no Tories left in Scotland. And a second Green MP in Bristol, with them holding Brighton pavilion.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-32121361

[sturginho]

Mirror large poll (18,000+ respondents) with the more advanced statistical analysis used by some pollsters now, shows The Tories collapsing to 80 seats, Labour with a majority of 254. SNP only down to 40 in Scotland in this analysis, (rather than using the standard swing method that is often used.), but no Tories left in Scotland. And a second Green MP in Bristol, with them holding Brighton pavilion.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-32121361

They reckon my constituency would remain tory, which sounds about right

[tabascoboy]

Mirror large poll (18,000+ respondents) with the more advanced statistical analysis used by some pollsters now, shows The Tories collapsing to 80 seats, Labour with a majority of 254. SNP only down to 40 in Scotland in this analysis, (rather than using the standard swing method that is often used.), but no Tories left in Scotland. And a second Green MP in Bristol, with them holding Brighton pavilion.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-32121361

They reckon my constituency would remain tory, which sounds about right

Same, nothing short of the Tory candidate on video massacring babies in a satanic ritual would change it here - and even then maybe not

[Raggs]

Mirror large poll (18,000+ respondents) with the more advanced statistical analysis used by some pollsters now, shows The Tories collapsing to 80 seats, Labour with a majority of 254. SNP only down to 40 in Scotland in this analysis, (rather than using the standard swing method that is often used.), but no Tories left in Scotland. And a second Green MP in Bristol, with them holding Brighton pavilion.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-32121361

They reckon my constituency would remain tory, which sounds about right

Same, nothing short of the Tory candidate on video massacring babies in a satanic ritual would change it here - and even then maybe not

Quite surprised to see mine (now two) not going to the tories, though with their drop, and some semi tactical voting, I can see it happening I guess.

[Tichtheid]

Mirror large poll (18,000+ respondents) with the more advanced statistical analysis used by some pollsters now, shows The Tories collapsing to 80 seats, Labour with a majority of 254. SNP only down to 40 in Scotland in this analysis, (rather than using the standard swing method that is often used.), but no Tories left in Scotland. And a second Green MP in Bristol, with them holding Brighton pavilion.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-32121361

It would be quite something if the Greens held Brighton Pavilion, the outgoing Caroline Lucas is a big figure in local politics as well as national.
The Greens got battered at the most recent council elections after being in control of Brighton and Hove.

[sockwithaticket]

Mine's projected to stay Tory Although I have been looking at moving and a couple of the areas I've been looking at are projected to go Labour.

[sockwithaticket]

Mirror large poll (18,000+ respondents) with the more advanced statistical analysis used by some pollsters now, shows The Tories collapsing to 80 seats, Labour with a majority of 254. SNP only down to 40 in Scotland in this analysis, (rather than using the standard swing method that is often used.), but no Tories left in Scotland. And a second Green MP in Bristol, with them holding Brighton pavilion.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-32121361

They reckon my constituency would remain tory, which sounds about right

Same, nothing short of the Tory candidate on video massacring babies in a satanic ritual would change it here - and even then maybe not

"Well it hasn't affected my house price and I'm sure their parents were benefit cheats anyway".

[Biffer]

A lot of you fuckers seem to live in tory seats.

[Slick]

A lot of you fuckers seem to live in tory seats.

Was just going to say, a perfect cross section of English rugby

[Raggs]

A lot of you fuckers seem to live in tory seats.

Median age of 51 in my county. England median age overall is 40. It was 46 in 2011, 51 in 2021. It's not getting any younger, since I know for a fact that current youngest school years are very low on numbers.