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Is there anything worse you can say about someone than they were less efficient than Matt Hancock ?
Former UK prime minister Boris Johnson’s handling of key Covid meetings was “scatty, incoherent and rambling” an inquiry has heard.

Vaughan Gething, the Welsh health minister during the Covid pandemic, criticised Mr Johnson’s handling of briefings, at the UK Covid-19 Inquiry hearing on Monday.

Mr Gething, who is now the minister for the economy and running to be the next first minister of Wales, said that COBR meetings – cabinet briefings where the Covid response was discussed – were better handled by former UK health minister Matt Hancock.

He made the comments in a written statement to the inquiry, which were read out by Tom Poole, lead counsel for the inquiry.

Mr Poole said: “When Matt Hancock chaired meetings of COBR there was administrative efficiency and it was a matter of regret that the same could not be said for the meetings chaired by Mr Johnson, who you describe as ‘scatty, incoherent and rambling’.”

Mr Gething told the hearing that “the identity (of the chair) really does matter”.

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What he should have said is that the identity of our Politicians & Officials does matter; & not the way they ruffle their fucking hair & assume a persona that makes them appear to be someone you'd want to have a pint with.
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SaintK wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:49 pm
I like neeps wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:40 pm
SaintK wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:48 pm
Wibble wibble!
Very disappointing, someone up who is rightfully disappointed when the Tories play constitutional shenanigans will give Labour a free pass for playing constitutional shenanigans.

Think about it, I know a lot of the English don't mind that the SNP motion wasn't voted on (in a clear disregard for the constitution) because a party leader interfered with the speaker. But if Starmer had convinced Hoyle to pull it (which Hoyle apologised for, because it was wrong) on the reasoning "MPs are in danger" and then Starmer decided to disagree with Sunak days later whose marquee speech was that MPs are in danger and he had no reason to say that to Hoyle. He'd have looked like at best a fool. Or not, to those who are fingers in ears la la la I'm not listening Tories bad.
I am listening and you're right.The Tories are very, very bad and are absolutely fucking over the country I love and have lived in for 70 years.
Can't wait for most of them to lose their (supposedly main) jobs to be honest. And I will delight in voting Labour for the first time in my life to hget rid of the bastards.
Great! I'm tactically voting Lib Fem as it's one of those seats I live in. And Labour's politicians being less obviously in it for their own personal gain will be a benefit.

But unfortunately if they continue to show the same lack of plans (other than personal enrichment) and same continued disrespect for the Constitution as the Tories have done. We're in for continued decline and debasement of our politics.
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dpedin wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:52 pm
SaintK wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:48 pm
I like neeps wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:23 pm

Could have been 4D chess from Starmer.

Or could be he and the speaker undermined the constitution to scratch the SNP opposition day debate for fears of violence towards MPs (Labour being embarrassed by a rebellion that voted for the SNPs motion) a few days before that speech and to disagree with him would've been eh bold. We'll never know!
Wibble wibble!
It was hardly chess let alone 3D or even 4D chess from Starmer if even I saw the hole that Sunak was digging for himself. Starmer merely gave him a bigger spade to keep digging with! This stuff about Hester goes back 4-5 years so it is highly likely that someone in the Labour Party knew of its existence and couldn't believe their luck when Sunak set himself up and all they needed was to spring the trap with the help of some Grauniad journalists. Oh and there will be other similar shit from within the Tory Party to hit the fan make no mistake about it.

Attempts to tie together the Sunak speech that Friday evening and Starmer let him walk straight into the pothole with the shenanigans around the SNP vote are misplaced. Sunak has shown the political nous of a brain damaged woodworm and his own words are coming back to haunt him now, I am not sure he can brave this one out given some of his own Cabinet are now saying Hesters comments were racist and sexist. Looks like the £10m will either have to go back or else given to charity. Hoisted by his own petard - what a twat!

The Tories will regret their decision to go low this GE!
Sunak made the speech (which was obviously an error at the time) because of Starmer's intervention on the Gaza vote which some Tories took to mean that Labour couldn't control the radical Muslims threatening MPs. So he could only agree it with it? Nothing about setting a trap or pothole or whatever for the Tories.

Very surprised someone who I think is pro indy is writing Starmer fanfic over a very cynical ploy which resulted in the SNPs constitutional rights infringed. I can imagine the fury you'd have if the Tories did it, yet Starmer does and it's a political masterclass - odd.
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I'm sure now many more accusations of racism will be dug up to crucify all Parties.
This racist Tory wanting to kill black women is only the opening salvo.
The bigger issue is the stupid fucks trying to defend the racism and then Sunak backtracking faster than an Italian tank in WW2.
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C69 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:13 am I'm sure now many more accusations of racism will be dug up to crucify all Parties.
This racist Tory wanting to kill black women is only the opening salvo.
The bigger issue is the stupid fucks trying to defend the racism and then Sunak backtracking faster than an Italian tank in WW2.
He tried to tough it out “Trump-style”, but it wouldn’t go away.
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:38 am
dpedin wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:52 pm
SaintK wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:48 pm
Wibble wibble!
It was hardly chess let alone 3D or even 4D chess from Starmer if even I saw the hole that Sunak was digging for himself. Starmer merely gave him a bigger spade to keep digging with! This stuff about Hester goes back 4-5 years so it is highly likely that someone in the Labour Party knew of its existence and couldn't believe their luck when Sunak set himself up and all they needed was to spring the trap with the help of some Grauniad journalists. Oh and there will be other similar shit from within the Tory Party to hit the fan make no mistake about it.

Attempts to tie together the Sunak speech that Friday evening and Starmer let him walk straight into the pothole with the shenanigans around the SNP vote are misplaced. Sunak has shown the political nous of a brain damaged woodworm and his own words are coming back to haunt him now, I am not sure he can brave this one out given some of his own Cabinet are now saying Hesters comments were racist and sexist. Looks like the £10m will either have to go back or else given to charity. Hoisted by his own petard - what a twat!

The Tories will regret their decision to go low this GE!
Sunak made the speech (which was obviously an error at the time) because of Starmer's intervention on the Gaza vote which some Tories took to mean that Labour couldn't control the radical Muslims threatening MPs. So he could only agree it with it? Nothing about setting a trap or pothole or whatever for the Tories.

Very surprised someone who I think is pro indy is writing Starmer fanfic over a very cynical ploy which resulted in the SNPs constitutional rights infringed. I can imagine the fury you'd have if the Tories did it, yet Starmer does and it's a political masterclass - odd.
Delusional!
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Sandstorm wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:46 am
C69 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:13 am I'm sure now many more accusations of racism will be dug up to crucify all Parties.
This racist Tory wanting to kill black women is only the opening salvo.
The bigger issue is the stupid fucks trying to defend the racism and then Sunak backtracking faster than an Italian tank in WW2.
He tried to tough it out “Trump-style”, but it wouldn’t go away.
Even this lot realised they couldn't just get away with a full on anti-wokery tirade on this one.
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dpedin wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:54 am
I like neeps wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:38 am
dpedin wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:52 pm

It was hardly chess let alone 3D or even 4D chess from Starmer if even I saw the hole that Sunak was digging for himself. Starmer merely gave him a bigger spade to keep digging with! This stuff about Hester goes back 4-5 years so it is highly likely that someone in the Labour Party knew of its existence and couldn't believe their luck when Sunak set himself up and all they needed was to spring the trap with the help of some Grauniad journalists. Oh and there will be other similar shit from within the Tory Party to hit the fan make no mistake about it.

Attempts to tie together the Sunak speech that Friday evening and Starmer let him walk straight into the pothole with the shenanigans around the SNP vote are misplaced. Sunak has shown the political nous of a brain damaged woodworm and his own words are coming back to haunt him now, I am not sure he can brave this one out given some of his own Cabinet are now saying Hesters comments were racist and sexist. Looks like the £10m will either have to go back or else given to charity. Hoisted by his own petard - what a twat!

The Tories will regret their decision to go low this GE!
Sunak made the speech (which was obviously an error at the time) because of Starmer's intervention on the Gaza vote which some Tories took to mean that Labour couldn't control the radical Muslims threatening MPs. So he could only agree it with it? Nothing about setting a trap or pothole or whatever for the Tories.

Very surprised someone who I think is pro indy is writing Starmer fanfic over a very cynical ploy which resulted in the SNPs constitutional rights infringed. I can imagine the fury you'd have if the Tories did it, yet Starmer does and it's a political masterclass - odd.
Delusional!
You should know by now that every time the Tories fuck up or get in trouble, Neeps will post another criticism of Starmer. Its almost a Pavlovian response now.
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So will they return the money just before PMQs to spike Starmers guns ?
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:04 am So will they return the money just before PMQs to spike Starmers guns ?
But he's not a racist! Let's gloss over the fact he also said he'd happily see Diane Abbott shot...
We would accept another £10m from Hester, says Tory minister
We mentioned not long ago that postal affairs minister Kevin Hollinrake earlier told BBC Breakfast his party would accept further donations from Frank Hester.

Hollinrake told BBC Breakfast he agreed that comments Hester allegedly made about MP Diane Abbott were racist, but added: "I don't think he's a racist person.

"He said something a bit stupid, completely inappropriate. We all say stupid things at times – I don’t think people generally say things as stupid as that – but he’s apologised, and I think we should move on from that."

Asked if the Tory party would accept another £10m from Hester, he replied: "On the basis that we don’t believe Mr Hester is a racist, yes."

In his later interview with the Today programme, Hollinrake gave a slightly different response to this question, saying it was a "decision for others to decide".
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:13 am
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:04 am So will they return the money just before PMQs to spike Starmers guns ?
But he's not a racist! Let's gloss over the fact he also said he'd happily see Diane Abbott shot...
We would accept another £10m from Hester, says Tory minister
We mentioned not long ago that postal affairs minister Kevin Hollinrake earlier told BBC Breakfast his party would accept further donations from Frank Hester.

Hollinrake told BBC Breakfast he agreed that comments Hester allegedly made about MP Diane Abbott were racist, but added: "I don't think he's a racist person.

"He said something a bit stupid, completely inappropriate. We all say stupid things at times – I don’t think people generally say things as stupid as that – but he’s apologised, and I think we should move on from that."

Asked if the Tory party would accept another £10m from Hester, he replied: "On the basis that we don’t believe Mr Hester is a racist, yes."

In his later interview with the Today programme, Hollinrake gave a slightly different response to this question, saying it was a "decision for others to decide".
That was the sub-text of Badenochs tweats; it's not okay to want to shoot someone because of their colour, or gender, but it's fine of it's because they don't agree with your point of view !
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Liz Truss levels of support, dear God this is embarrassing
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... r-32123308
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Far more embarrassing is the potential 12 million+ people who still want to vote for them.

What exactly was it that inspired you all, folks? Form an orderly line.
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lemonhead wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:17 pm Far more embarrassing is the potential 12 million+ people who still want to vote for them.

What exactly was it that inspired you all, folks? Form an orderly line.


Some people have said it here "Labour would be worse"

Which makes me think of the guy about to be stoned to death in the Monty Python "Life of Brian" film - he is told that repeating the word "Jehovah" is only making things worse and he asks "Worse? How could it possibly be worse?"
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I'm confident this absolute shower will find a way.
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The Tories are pressing on with the definition of extremist today.
Unfortunately they may have to be deemed an extremist organisation by taking millions from a man who is a racist and wants a black female MP shot.
Oh dear. This is going to be a bit silly. Gove realised this earlier his squirming was uncomfortable
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lemonhead wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:17 pm Far more embarrassing is the potential 12 million+ people who still want to vote for them.

What exactly was it that inspired you all, folks? Form an orderly line.
I imagine that a not insignificant portion of that 12 million are our benevolent elders, who've always voted Tory and are not for the turning no matter what...
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geordie_6 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:06 am
lemonhead wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:17 pm Far more embarrassing is the potential 12 million+ people who still want to vote for them.

What exactly was it that inspired you all, folks? Form an orderly line.
I imagine that a not insignificant portion of that 12 million are our benevolent elders, who've always voted Tory and are not for the turning no matter what...
Plus second generation immigrant Asian women who might look up to certain MPs they aspire to be?
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geordie_6 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:06 am
lemonhead wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:17 pm Far more embarrassing is the potential 12 million+ people who still want to vote for them.

What exactly was it that inspired you all, folks? Form an orderly line.
I imagine that a not insignificant portion of that 12 million are our benevolent elders, who've always voted Tory and are not for the turning no matter what...
The amount of, 'Well, yes, the Tories are awful, but Labour would be worse' you still hear about is staggering.
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Some people still bang on about three day weeks, power cuts and rubbish in the streets when thinking "Labour could be worse".
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Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:16 pm Some people still bang on about three day weeks, power cuts and rubbish in the streets when thinking "Labour could be worse".
Its worth remembering that the Three Day Week was introduced by Edward Heath's Conservative government. It was Wilson's minority Labour government that ended the three day week (as well as the power cuts and other hardships that came along with it).

One unexpected consequence of the three day week was a temporary spike in the birth rate, possibly caused by couples having to find something else to do in the evenings when all TV broadcasts ended at 10:30 pm.
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Business as usual:
Rishi Sunak is under fresh pressure over his ties to Frank Hester - the party donor embroiled in a race row - amid reports his party received £5m more than previously declared.

The Conservative Party has not denied reports, first published by Tortoise Media, that it received as-yet-undeclared funds from Mr Hester.

Party donations made after December are due to be published in June.

Labour and the Lib Dems have demanded the Tories hand back the money.

Electoral Commission records show Mr Hester has donated more than £10m to the Conservative Party in the past year - including gifting Mr Sunak a £16,000 helicopter journey.

But on Thursday, news website Tortoise Media reported that the Conservatives were "sitting on" an extra £5m cash donation from Mr Hester that had yet to be declared - taking the total to over £15m.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68567484
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tabascoboy wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:54 pm Business as usual:
Rishi Sunak is under fresh pressure over his ties to Frank Hester - the party donor embroiled in a race row - amid reports his party received £5m more than previously declared.

The Conservative Party has not denied reports, first published by Tortoise Media, that it received as-yet-undeclared funds from Mr Hester.

Party donations made after December are due to be published in June.

Labour and the Lib Dems have demanded the Tories hand back the money.

Electoral Commission records show Mr Hester has donated more than £10m to the Conservative Party in the past year - including gifting Mr Sunak a £16,000 helicopter journey.

But on Thursday, news website Tortoise Media reported that the Conservatives were "sitting on" an extra £5m cash donation from Mr Hester that had yet to be declared - taking the total to over £15m.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68567484

You'd think the prick was on the breadline the way he gets, gifts, like this, instead of being the wealthiest PM ever.

He could replace these donations himself from petty cash, & have it be a rounding error in his wealth.
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fishfoodie wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:33 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:54 pm Business as usual:
Rishi Sunak is under fresh pressure over his ties to Frank Hester - the party donor embroiled in a race row - amid reports his party received £5m more than previously declared.

The Conservative Party has not denied reports, first published by Tortoise Media, that it received as-yet-undeclared funds from Mr Hester.

Party donations made after December are due to be published in June.

Labour and the Lib Dems have demanded the Tories hand back the money.

Electoral Commission records show Mr Hester has donated more than £10m to the Conservative Party in the past year - including gifting Mr Sunak a £16,000 helicopter journey.

But on Thursday, news website Tortoise Media reported that the Conservatives were "sitting on" an extra £5m cash donation from Mr Hester that had yet to be declared - taking the total to over £15m.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68567484

You'd think the prick was on the breadline the way he gets, gifts, like this, instead of being the wealthiest PM ever.

He could replace these donations himself from petty cash, & have it be a rounding error in his wealth.
Yeah, rich people don’t turn down freebies either.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:38 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:33 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:54 pm Business as usual:


You'd think the prick was on the breadline the way he gets, gifts, like this, instead of being the wealthiest PM ever.

He could replace these donations himself from petty cash, & have it be a rounding error in his wealth.
Yeah, rich people don’t turn down freebies either.
Hardly free; the racist cunt got £400 million in Government contracts
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sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:47 am
geordie_6 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:06 am
lemonhead wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:17 pm Far more embarrassing is the potential 12 million+ people who still want to vote for them.

What exactly was it that inspired you all, folks? Form an orderly line.
I imagine that a not insignificant portion of that 12 million are our benevolent elders, who've always voted Tory and are not for the turning no matter what...
The amount of, 'Well, yes, the Tories are awful, but Labour would be worse' you still hear about is staggering.
I wouldn’t complain too much - in thirty/forty years people will still be talking about this government as a reason not to vote Tory
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fishfoodie wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:43 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:38 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:33 pm


You'd think the prick was on the breadline the way he gets, gifts, like this, instead of being the wealthiest PM ever.

He could replace these donations himself from petty cash, & have it be a rounding error in his wealth.
Yeah, rich people don’t turn down freebies either.
Hardly free; the racist cunt got £400 million in Government contracts
That's not his money though ;)
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:lol:
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Armed Forces Minister to quit his post on a few weeks and to not stand as an MP again.
That's 61 not standing next election
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C69 wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:04 am Armed Forces Minister to quit his post on a few weeks and to not stand as an MP again.
That's 61 not standing next election
And not one of the older MPs either, his (would be, new under boundary changes) seat predicted to go to the LIb Dems in the GE
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C69 wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:04 am Armed Forces Minister to quit his post on a few weeks and to not stand as an MP again.
That's 61 not standing next election
62. Brandon Lewis announced his standing dowm yesterday
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy:
Jeremy Hunt, the chancellor, has claimed that the Conservative party is “transparent” about its donations – while refusing to say whether or not the party has had another £5m from Frank Hester.
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Did Gove add this den of iniquity and unhealthy foreigners to his list of "Things that Are Not British", or is that just reserved for Muslims, environmental protesters and socialists?
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SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:12 pm :lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy:
Jeremy Hunt, the chancellor, has claimed that the Conservative party is “transparent” about its donations – while refusing to say whether or not the party has had another £5m from Frank Hester.
They've got to replace those rubles somehow.
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petej wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:16 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:12 pm :lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy:
Jeremy Hunt, the chancellor, has claimed that the Conservative party is “transparent” about its donations – while refusing to say whether or not the party has had another £5m from Frank Hester.
They've got to replace those rubles somehow.
No problem !

There's more than enough despotic regimes in the Gulf who are happy to fill the gap
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:21 pm
petej wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:16 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:12 pm :lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy:
They've got to replace those rubles somehow.
No problem !

There's more than enough despotic regimes in the Gulf who are happy to fill the gap
True. They can have the same backers as hamas (and man city).
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Bigots Unite !
Traditional Unionist Voice (TUV) leader Jim Allister has announced a formal "partnership" with Reform UK in the upcoming general election.

He made the announcement as Reform UK leader Richard Tice attended the TUV's annual conference in County Antrim.

The two leaders signed a "memorandum of understanding" at the conference.

And the parties will later announce "agreed candidates" for constituencies in Northern Ireland in the forthcoming Westminster election.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ir ... s-68547753
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:42 pm Bigots Unite !
Traditional Unionist Voice (TUV) leader Jim Allister has announced a formal "partnership" with Reform UK in the upcoming general election.

He made the announcement as Reform UK leader Richard Tice attended the TUV's annual conference in County Antrim.

The two leaders signed a "memorandum of understanding" at the conference.

And the parties will later announce "agreed candidates" for constituencies in Northern Ireland in the forthcoming Westminster election.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ir ... s-68547753
If reform takes say 16% of the vote and the tories end up around18% then fptp will really hurt.
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:21 pm
petej wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:16 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:12 pm :lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy:
They've got to replace those rubles somehow.
No problem !

There's more than enough despotic regimes in the Gulf who are happy to fill the gap
Although the Tories are less than happy about the proposed takeover of their daily newsletter, The Telegraph, bu the Saudis.
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