Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

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The one thing we learned from the NH clubs is that you need to have enough depth for two teams. No way you can play your best team week in, week out. Rassie and Nienaber extend that to test level.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:32 pm
Blake wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:39 pm The only thing that is massive challenge is player management. It's a difficult puzzle to solve for sure, unless we can align on a global season of some kind and play TRC in the SH at the same time that the NH teams play 6N...or something like that.
They want an eight week rest for all players. Its going to be a real challenge specially now that the CC moved to July-Sep. We will get to a global season maybe quicker if we go to the 6 Nations. TRC wont survive without the Springboks, Soup is already on its last legs.
Player management is going to be our biggest challenge going forward. With our players scattered across Europe and Japan and local teams competing in the Currie Cup, URC, European Cups we are going to have to develop some serious depth locally and in the Bok Squad to juggle availability, injuries and planned player rest periods. Each URC team are going to have to develop 2 squads and the Boks will likely need 4-5 players in each position that could just slot in and understand the systems and gameplans.

I think that is going to be the goal of this World Cup cycle for Rassie. While some countries are going into rebuilding cycles and England and NZ are figuring out their eligibility policies, we are finally ahead of the curve. We still have a solid core of players available for this cycle and our eligibility policy has proven its worth in the last 6 years. The Boks will be able to keep most of their core players for this RWC cycle and Rassie can focus on blooding and integrating the next generation of players and build some depth for 2027 and 2031.

And locally I hope the URC teams will get some cash injections to expands their squads a little so they can compete in URC and Europe and the Currie Cup. I really worry about the Lions; they need some cash and they are stuck with Ellis Park. They can't sell it, and they can't really afford to rent an alternate smaller ground and the area is unlikely to get gentrified anytime soon. They really are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Blake wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:57 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:32 pm
Blake wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:39 pm The only thing that is massive challenge is player management. It's a difficult puzzle to solve for sure, unless we can align on a global season of some kind and play TRC in the SH at the same time that the NH teams play 6N...or something like that.
They want an eight week rest for all players. Its going to be a real challenge specially now that the CC moved to July-Sep. We will get to a global season maybe quicker if we go to the 6 Nations. TRC wont survive without the Springboks, Soup is already on its last legs.
Player management is going to be our biggest challenge going forward. With our players scattered across Europe and Japan and local teams competing in the Currie Cup, URC, European Cups we are going to have to develop some serious depth locally and in the Bok Squad to juggle availability, injuries and planned player rest periods. Each URC team are going to have to develop 2 squads and the Boks will likely need 4-5 players in each position that could just slot in and understand the systems and gameplans.

I think that is going to be the goal of this World Cup cycle for Rassie. While some countries are going into rebuilding cycles and England and NZ are figuring out their eligibility policies, we are finally ahead of the curve. We still have a solid core of players available for this cycle and our eligibility policy has proven its worth in the last 6 years. The Boks will be able to keep most of their core players for this RWC cycle and Rassie can focus on blooding and integrating the next generation of players and build some depth for 2027 and 2031.

And locally I hope the URC teams will get some cash injections to expands their squads a little so they can compete in URC and Europe and the Currie Cup. I really worry about the Lions; they need some cash and they are stuck with Ellis Park. They can't sell it, and they can't really afford to rent an alternate smaller ground and the area is unlikely to get gentrified anytime soon. They really are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Why can't they sell it?
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Chilli2 wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:17 am Why can't they sell it?
I mean, they could, but I doubt they'd get a decent price for it. Unlike Newlands which was located in a nice neighbourhood, I don't think there are any developers interested in Ellis Park. The surrounding areas are just so run down. At least once Newlands gets sold, my understanding is that WP Rugby will have a stake in the real estate that will be developed on the land. The revenue from those leases will help fund the union and the clubs into the future.

But for the Lions, without a similar deal like that, even if they did manage to find a buyer, once Ellis Park has been sold, the fixed expense of maintaining it gets replaced with a viarable expense of having to rent training grounds and training facilities in the week, and a match day venue and then hoping the ticket and concessions sales cover that cost.

The cost-benefit analysis becomes quite complicated very quickly.
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4 Saffas in the Premiership team of the year

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assfly wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 8:50 am 4 Saffas in the Premiership team of the year

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Could Wiese look any more Upington? :lol:
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Rumours circulating that Hanro Liebenberg, Jacques Vermeulen, Tyrone Green and Benhard Janse van Rensburg are going to get called up for England.
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assfly wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 10:26 am Rumours circulating that Hanro Liebenberg, Jacques Vermeulen, Tyrone Green and Benhard Janse van Rensburg are going to get called up for England.
Saw that too. Good luck to them. They have been great for their clubs.


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