President Trump and US politics catchall

[Flockwitt]

It’s going to be interesting. This is from those in the know the weakest of the cases against him and while a bit of white collar fraud may be brushed away the classified docs are not a joke - there is a long record of serious conviction for this which can be easily challenged if Trumps judge is too lenient on him.

[Kiwias]

Given that Florida widely restricts the rights of felons to vote, does this mean that the Orange Buffoon will not be able to vote in the November election?

[Niegs]

I mean, who really gives a fuck about this?

It seems a total storm in a tea cup. An accounting error, assumingly on purpose but when you boil it down, the average voter won't give a shit out of which account the money came from.

His voters already knew he's a sleazy bastard that has been banging hookers anyway, and they still love him. So can't see much materially changing as a result, unfortunately.

Some nice ammo during the campaigns / debates to say "convicted" and throw back at them their supposedly cherished "law and order" values. (Even if many say 'rigged', you have to think that some sane die-hard Republicans will wither... at least not vote for him?)

[Guy Smiley]

This isn't going to end well for anyone.

Very disconcerting.

[Niegs]

His plant among the people being interviewed on the scene!

[bok_viking]

His plant among the people being interviewed on the scene!

I find the reaction of the fox news cult worshipers quite hilarious. You can just imagine their 180% reaction if something like this happened to any of the Bidens or Hillary, etc

[sturginho]

His plant among the people being interviewed on the scene!

He was shown on bbc news as well waving his Father Theresa sign!

and in the guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... kers-react

[TB63]

Melania releases a statement supporting her husband..

". ."

[inactionman]

Donnie goes down

Virtual pint that he doesn't.

He'll most likely never see the inside of a prison cell on this conviction, but baby steps and all that.

The classified docs trial still to come, which looks an order of scale more serious - although I still can't see him going to chokey

[Sinkers]

Is there an enforced exile in shame Edward VIII type option?

[fishfoodie]

Is there an enforced exile in shame Edward VIII type option?

GitMo is lovely this time of year !

I think the worst cast for the Traitor is he gets to spend maybe a month in gaol surrounded by the Secret Service, & then he gets released to home confinement for the remainder.

It's very hard for the Judge to not sentence an unrepentant convicted felon, who has repeatedly threatened members of the Court & Law Enforcement, to some prison time.

[Guy Smiley]

Wait and see if E Jean Carroll decides to strip him of every asset he has left yet.

[TB63]

US laws are baffling, Bannon still hasn't been jailed even after losing his appeal.

I'm assuming Von Shitznpants won't see jail as he's launched an appeal, or am I wrong? If on July 11th, he gets a custodial sentence, can he just stay out due to his appeal?

[David in Gwent]

Just a few hours after the verdict Biden has given Ukraine permission to use US weapons for strikes inside Russia.

The war is being escalated, on purpose.

The day isn't too far away when you will realise you've been cheering for the wrong side.

[inactionman]

Just a few hours after the verdict Biden has given Ukraine permission to use US weapons for strikes inside Russia.

The war is being escalated, on purpose.

The day isn't too far away when you will realise you've been cheering for the wrong side.

I've supported West Ham my whole life, I'm well used to it.

[David in Gwent]

US laws are baffling, Bannon still hasn't been jailed even after losing his appeal.

I'm assuming Von Shitznpants won't see jail as he's launched an appeal, or am I wrong? If on July 11th, he gets a custodial sentence, can he just stay out due to his appeal?

He won't get a custodial sentence. The crime in NY coupled with his lack of previous convictions will mean he won't get prison time. He will have to go through pre-sentencing reports and precedents have already been set.

He's going to get a fine.

[Lobby]

[inactionman]

US laws are baffling, Bannon still hasn't been jailed even after losing his appeal.

I'm assuming Von Shitznpants won't see jail as he's launched an appeal, or am I wrong? If on July 11th, he gets a custodial sentence, can he just stay out due to his appeal?

He won't get a custodial sentence. The crime in NY coupled with his lack of previous convictions will mean he won't get prison time. He will have to go through pre-sentencing reports and precedents have already been set.

He's going to get a fine.

Add it to the list.

He's good with fines. Very good. The finest of fines.

[David in Gwent]

US laws are baffling, Bannon still hasn't been jailed even after losing his appeal.

I'm assuming Von Shitznpants won't see jail as he's launched an appeal, or am I wrong? If on July 11th, he gets a custodial sentence, can he just stay out due to his appeal?

He won't get a custodial sentence. The crime in NY coupled with his lack of previous convictions will mean he won't get prison time. He will have to go through pre-sentencing reports and precedents have already been set.

He's going to get a fine.

Add it to the list.

He's good with fines. Very good. The finest of fines.

The only way to stop him will be to kill him.

[inactionman]

He won't get a custodial sentence. The crime in NY coupled with his lack of previous convictions will mean he won't get prison time. He will have to go through pre-sentencing reports and precedents have already been set.

He's going to get a fine.

Add it to the list.

He's good with fines. Very good. The finest of fines.

The only way to stop him will be to kill him.

Bit strong.

[tabascoboy]

Oh the ironing...

Russia accuses White House of 'eliminating' rivals

There's been some reaction coming out of Moscow to Donald Trump's conviction.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says the Trump conviction shows the White House is "eliminating its political rivals by all possible legal and illegal means".

[David in Gwent]

Oh the ironing...

Russia accuses White House of 'eliminating' rivals

There's been some reaction coming out of Moscow to Donald Trump's conviction.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says the Trump conviction shows the White House is "eliminating its political rivals by all possible legal and illegal means".

It's definitely ironic, however, The Dems are acting like China, Russia, NK, etc....

I think that's pretty undeniable at this stage - the crazy thing to me is that we have grown ass, intelligent men on this forum cheerleading this behaviour.

[C69]

I would suggest that there is no doubt that there was a political influence in bringing forth this trial.
However it's America and these things happen.

[inactionman]

Everything that's happening to him is completely self-inflicted.

If he didn't cadge campaign cash off gullible punters to deal with his personal troubles, then he wouldn't have been up in court.

If he didn't keep slandering someone he's in all likelihood assaulted, then he wouldn't have been sued.

I've little sympathy, and I don't really care what drove his prosecution or civil litigation.

You'd have thought, knowing that political opponents could use dirt against him, he'd at least make the slightest of efforts to stay clean.

[SaintK]

[Sandstorm]

Oh the ironing...

Russia accuses White House of 'eliminating' rivals

There's been some reaction coming out of Moscow to Donald Trump's conviction.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says the Trump conviction shows the White House is "eliminating its political rivals by all possible legal and illegal means".

Did he recommend Biden use a high window?

[sefton]

Oh the ironing...

Russia accuses White House of 'eliminating' rivals

There's been some reaction coming out of Moscow to Donald Trump's conviction.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says the Trump conviction shows the White House is "eliminating its political rivals by all possible legal and illegal means".

It's definitely ironic, however, The Dems are acting like China, Russia, NK, etc....

I think that's pretty undeniable at this stage - the crazy thing to me is that we have grown ass, intelligent men on this forum cheerleading this behaviour.

It’s only undeniable if you are a fruit loop conspiracy theorist.

[fishfoodie]

Oh the ironing...

Russia accuses White House of 'eliminating' rivals

There's been some reaction coming out of Moscow to Donald Trump's conviction.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says the Trump conviction shows the White House is "eliminating its political rivals by all possible legal and illegal means".

Did he recommend Biden use a high window?

We need to get some iron railings installed outside Traitor tower. Cover then on 9kt gold & put nice spikes on top.

[Wyndham Upalot]

Oh the ironing...

It's definitely ironic, however, The Dems are acting like China, Russia, NK, etc....

I think that's pretty undeniable at this stage - the crazy thing to me is that we have grown ass, intelligent men on this forum cheerleading this behaviour.

It’s only undeniable if you are a fruit loop conspiracy theorist.

Is he actually 'David Icke in Gwent' ?

[TedMaul]

The phrase ‘grown ass men’ would suggest it’s either Matthew Kelly or Rylan.

[TB63]

https://x.com/billyd3_/status/179636342 ... 9NzSw&s=19

[TB63]

https://x.com/mmpadellan/status/1796565 ... N-ZvA&s=19

[TB63]

Just to clarify..

This case was about falsifying business records, which is an offence.

If the orange shitgibbon had paid Stormy out of his own pocket, there would be no case. Full stop.

But no, tight arsed Von Shitznpants paid her out of campaign funds, through his then fixer and lawyer, and tried to cover up the fact that he'd albeit briefly shoved his mushroom in a well oiled clunge, whilst his current wife was at home with his newly born child, then tried to stiff (fnaar, fnaar, he'd failed at that) Stormy outta the money hed promised to pay, dragging it on. Then he's tried to claim his lawyer paid 130, 000 out of his own pocket as, well, what? Felt like it?...Nah, greedy little Donny had to pay her with the money hed grifted outta his gullible rubes..not his own shallow pocket...he's been proved to micromanage every payment, he'd told his accountant to never pay the full amount as he'd rather stiff someone and tell them to due him for the full amount, he's had thousands of court cases through his life, and now DAC wants us to believe he's been wrongly convicted...give me a fucking break....

[Kiwias]

Donnie goes down

Virtual pint that he doesn't.

Strangely enough, I don't even care whether he goes to jail or not. Just seeing him found guilty and knowing he will forever bear the label of a convicted former President is sufficient.

[Kiwias]

Here is a preliminary list of countries that refuse entry to convicted felons. Be tough for a President to do his job if he could not visit all these countries.

Argentina
Australia
Canada
China
Cuba
India
Iran
Israel
Japan
Kenya
Macau
New Zealand
South Africa
Taiwan
United Kingdom
United States

[Niegs]

Here is a preliminary list of countries that refuse entry to convicted felons. Be tough for a President to do his job if he could not visit all these countries.

Argentina
Australia
Canada
China
Cuba
India
Iran
Israel
Japan
Kenya
Macau
New Zealand
South Africa
Taiwan
United Kingdom
United States

I forgot about that! As seen on Border Security people denied entry to Canada on even minor conviction, and pretty sure there was a NZ Maori who wasn't allowed to play here ... oh, it was three: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/canada-re ... HQXXJZZQ4/

And the CBC explains how he could, in theory, get an exception as there's a G7 summit here next year! (I mean, ideally he loses the election spectacularly, but...)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-g7- ... -1.7221305

[Enzedder]

Here is a preliminary list of countries that refuse entry to convicted felons. Be tough for a President to do his job if he could not visit all these countries.

Argentina
Australia
Canada
China
Cuba
India
Iran
Israel
Japan
Kenya
Macau
New Zealand
South Africa
Taiwan
United Kingdom
United States

[Kiwias]

Here is a preliminary list of countries that refuse entry to convicted felons. Be tough for a President to do his job if he could not visit all these countries.

Argentina
Australia
Canada
China
Cuba
India
Iran
Israel
Japan
Kenya
Macau
New Zealand
South Africa
Taiwan
United Kingdom
United States

I thought that only applied in cases of committing a crime in the country where the diplomat is located.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

US laws are baffling, Bannon still hasn't been jailed even after losing his appeal.

I'm assuming Von Shitznpants won't see jail as he's launched an appeal, or am I wrong? If on July 11th, he gets a custodial sentence, can he just stay out due to his appeal?

Very odd he's not banged up ahead of his trial for stealing national security docs. As a norm you'd be in jail, jail or jail. The rules don't apply, still

[Jethro]

Oh the ironing...

Russia accuses White House of 'eliminating' rivals

There's been some reaction coming out of Moscow to Donald Trump's conviction.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says the Trump conviction shows the White House is "eliminating its political rivals by all possible legal and illegal means".

It's definitely ironic, however, The Dems are acting like China, Russia, NK, etc....

I think that's pretty undeniable at this stage - the crazy thing to me is that we have grown ass, intelligent men on this forum cheerleading this behaviour.

Someone has been drinking the Trump cool-aid a bit too much