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  • New Zealand, Australia travel bubble plans could start ‘within days’

    Australia is expected to announce today it has struck up a travel bubble deal with New Zealand, with flights due to begin in weeks.

    Lauren McMah
    October 2, 20201:13pm

    Ardern talks trans-Tasman bubble: "We miss each other" (Today)

    Australia has agreed to a travel bubble deal with New Zealand and the first trans-Tasman flights could leave within weeks, according to reports.

    The ABC has reported details of the much-anticipated travel bubble will be announced by the Federal Government this afternoon.

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison reportedly spoke to his New Zealand counterpart Jacinda Ardern earlier today.

    It is expected the deal will allow for New Zealanders to travel to Australia quarantine-free first, and Australians will head to New Zealand at a later date.

    The first trans-Tasman flight could leave in as little as two weeks, according to 7 News.

    Earlier, government sources told the The Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison was preparing to announce the travel deal within days, with Sydney and Adelaide airports to be the first ports to receive Kiwi travellers.

    The Federal Government is reportedly talking to NSW and South Australia about how the travel bubble with New Zealand would work. Those states were picked as first cabs off the rank as their state borders were already open, according to The Australian.

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Travellers from NZ still need to isolate upon return at a cost of $3000. It will be interesting to see what the uptake is.
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Muttonbird wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:51 am Travellers from NZ still need to isolate upon return at a cost of $3000. It will be interesting to see what the uptake is.
It's really a one-way deal (as usual) to start, innit.

Probably due to a Kiwi election. When is the election? ... so we can start flying cashless cunce back? :lol:
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Kiap wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:57 am
Muttonbird wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:51 am Travellers from NZ still need to isolate upon return at a cost of $3000. It will be interesting to see what the uptake is.
It's really a one-way deal (as usual) to start, innit.

Probably due to a Kiwi election. When is the election? ... so we can start flying cashless cunce back? :lol:
It’s another vacuous ‘announcement’ from the Morrison govt that means nothing. If anything, it’s an exercise in pressuring another party to support their policy or perspective.

Transparent posturing from a government that seems unable to do anything else.
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Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:04 amit’s an exercise in pressuring another party to support their policy or perspective.
Which one?
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Kiap wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 am
Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:04 amit’s an exercise in pressuring another party to support their policy or perspective.
Which one?
Easy. Put pressure on NZ govt to support their own policy.
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Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:37 am
Kiap wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 am
Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:04 amit’s an exercise in pressuring another party to support their policy or perspective.
Which one?
Easy. Put pressure on NZ govt to support their own policy.
Why didn't ya just say so?

Any fule kno that NZ won't be doing much before their election.

After that, tho ...
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Kiap wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:47 am
Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:37 am
Kiap wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 am
Which one?
Easy. Put pressure on NZ govt to support their own policy.
Why didn't ya just say so?

Any fule kno that NZ won't be doing much before their election.

After that, tho ...
Yes... and he’s assisting the NZ opposition campaign and their policy of opening borders. He’s trying to leverage support in his crusade against the Labor states primarily, of course.

But this ‘announcement’ is just another in the endless line of empty announcements from this government that mean nothing, do nothing, provide nothing other than incite reaction through playing on emotions. Scotty from Marketing. The supreme politician. A nothingburger on the scale of human accomplishment. Habitual smirker and also a bit of a fat cunt.
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Oh... several months ago during early talk of a TT bubble, the NZ PM stated clearly that Australia would need to have 28 days of community transmission free before they’d accommodate it. The policy hasn’t changed.

But yeah... Scotty said a thing👍
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Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:55 am ... several months ago during early talk of a TT bubble, the NZ PM stated clearly that Australia would need to have 28 days of community transmission free before they’d accommodate it. The policy hasn’t changed.
You might have mis-spoke.

The NZ PM appears to be saying an Australian hotspot (read "Sicktoria") does not rule out a bubble before Christmas, provided said hotspot is border contained.
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Kiap wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:08 am
Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:55 am ... several months ago during early talk of a TT bubble, the NZ PM stated clearly that Australia would need to have 28 days of community transmission free before they’d accommodate it. The policy hasn’t changed.
You might have mis-spoke.

The NZ PM appears to be saying an Australian hotspot (read "Sicktoria") does not rule out a bubble before Christmas, provided said hotspot is border contained.
The Australian govt’s position at the time was a one border policy. NZ, through deputy PM Winston Peters was open to allowing state by state travel to NZ but that was ruled out by Morrison, leading to Ardern’s statement regarding the 28 days.

Now that Morrison and co are desperate to gain any sort of economic traction they can they’ve opened to the idea of regional travel arrangements... and have bravely announced an opening of borders. NZ’s policy still rests on appropriate Covid security measures in place and practise for any movement to be possible... hence the quarantine requirement for returning travellers.

It’s almost as if... they don’t think the Australian govt is up to that task.
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Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:22 am
Kiap wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:08 am
Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:55 am ... several months ago during early talk of a TT bubble, the NZ PM stated clearly that Australia would need to have 28 days of community transmission free before they’d accommodate it. The policy hasn’t changed.
You might have mis-spoke.

The NZ PM appears to be saying an Australian hotspot (read "Sicktoria") does not rule out a bubble before Christmas, provided said hotspot is border contained.
The Australian govt’s position at the time was a one border policy. NZ, through deputy PM Winston Peters was open to allowing state by state travel to NZ but that was ruled out by Morrison, leading to Ardern’s statement regarding the 28 days.
Does that statement match what you wrote? i.e. "that Australia would need to have 28 days of community transmission free" before there can be a bubble.

I think not. :wink:

... There'll be cunce flying before baby jebus has his birthday.
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Kiap wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:33 am
Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:22 am
Kiap wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:08 am
You might have mis-spoke.

The NZ PM appears to be saying an Australian hotspot (read "Sicktoria") does not rule out a bubble before Christmas, provided said hotspot is border contained.
The Australian govt’s position at the time was a one border policy. NZ, through deputy PM Winston Peters was open to allowing state by state travel to NZ but that was ruled out by Morrison, leading to Ardern’s statement regarding the 28 days.
Does that statement match what you wrote? i.e. "that Australia would need to have 28 days of community transmission free" before there can be a bubble.

I think not. :wink:

... There'll be cunce flying before baby jebus has his birthday.
The policy hasn’t changed, Kiap.

Don’t you think the more pertinent issue is the emptiness of the gesture from your beloved Scott Morrison when he knows, or should know, the requirement for quarantine on return.

Maybe he doesn’t know. Maybe that’s it. Maybe he’s just a simple bloke running a country who once shat his pants in the Engadine Maccas.
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So, the ABs don't have to quarantine so we can play the Dec 12th Round at the start of the comp now (1 week before the planned 1st round).

Goodonya Scotty - you're a marketing expert mate.
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Enzedder wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:45 am So, the ABs don't have to quarantine so we can play the Dec 12th Round at the start of the comp now (1 week before the planned 1st round).

Goodonya Scotty - you're a marketing expert mate.
That is logical, common sense thinking :clap:. They will never go for it.
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Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:43 amDon’t you think the more pertinent issue is the emptiness of the gesture from your beloved Scott Morrison
You''ve turned into AC-lite. :lol:

... Meanwhile, the man himself has moved into the overtaking lane and zoomed past you.
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Jb1981 wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:47 am
Enzedder wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:45 am So, the ABs don't have to quarantine so we can play the Dec 12th Round at the start of the comp now (1 week before the planned 1st round).

Goodonya Scotty - you're a marketing expert mate.
That is logical, common sense thinking :clap:. They will never go for it.
They will still need two weeks to get into QLD for said 1st round. :ugeek:
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I think there'll be a lot of permanent one way traffic. Kiwis emigrating to Australia without having to quarantine. More people for Dutton to throw into jail.
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Muttonbird wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:41 am I think there'll be a lot of permanent one way traffic. Kiwis emigrating to Australia without having to quarantine. More people for Dutton to throw into jail.
People seeing more post-covid opportunities in Australia? Why are you expecting such an exodus?
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Does this mean the crycry's can go home for Christmas?
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Jb1981 wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:09 am
Muttonbird wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:41 am I think there'll be a lot of permanent one way traffic. Kiwis emigrating to Australia without having to quarantine. More people for Dutton to throw into jail.
People seeing more post-covid opportunities in Australia? Why are you expecting such an exodus?
Because it's New Zealand and for some odd reason many Kiwis seem to prefer living in Australia to the alternative.

Baffling really.
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average joe wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:08 am Does this mean the crycry's can go home for Christmas?
Why is a whiny Saffa even getting himself involved in this is probably more pertinent.
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Jb1981 wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:09 am
Muttonbird wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:41 am I think there'll be a lot of permanent one way traffic. Kiwis emigrating to Australia without having to quarantine. More people for Dutton to throw into jail.
People seeing more post-covid opportunities in Australia? Why are you expecting such an exodus?
There won't be a mass exodus. The Australian economy is faring just as badly as NZ's. This move by the Federal Govt is designed to allow Aussies who live in NZ to return home if they want to, and to more importantly put pressure on Australian state government's to further relax their state borders and restrictions.
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Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:12 am
Jb1981 wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:09 am
Muttonbird wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:41 am I think there'll be a lot of permanent one way traffic. Kiwis emigrating to Australia without having to quarantine. More people for Dutton to throw into jail.
People seeing more post-covid opportunities in Australia? Why are you expecting such an exodus?
There won't be a mass exodus. The Australian economy is faring just as badly as NZ's. This move by the Federal Govt is designed to allow Aussies who live in NZ to return home if they want to, and to more importantly put pressure on Australian state government's to further relax their state borders and restrictions.
Oh... and it’s getting close to fruit picking season and there’s a labour shortage.
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Green light echo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:29 am
Jb1981 wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:09 am
Muttonbird wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:41 am I think there'll be a lot of permanent one way traffic. Kiwis emigrating to Australia without having to quarantine. More people for Dutton to throw into jail.
People seeing more post-covid opportunities in Australia? Why are you expecting such an exodus?
Because it's New Zealand and for some odd reason many Kiwis seem to prefer living in Australia to the alternative.

Baffling really.
I don’t know this year’s figures, and they will be skewed by covid anyway, but I’m pretty sure we’ve seen a tiny net outflow to Australia for the last five years or so - something like a net difference of 3,000 - 5,000 people leaving only. It’s not like the early 2000s when the net outflow was tens of thousands of people each year.
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Jb1981 wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:43 am
Green light echo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:29 am
Jb1981 wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:09 am

People seeing more post-covid opportunities in Australia? Why are you expecting such an exodus?
Because it's New Zealand and for some odd reason many Kiwis seem to prefer living in Australia to the alternative.

Baffling really.
I don’t know this year’s figures, and they will be skewed by covid anyway, but I’m pretty sure we’ve seen a tiny net outflow to Australia for the last five years or so - something like a net difference of 3,000 - 5,000 people leaving only. It’s not like the early 2000s when the net outflow was tens of thousands of people each year.
So around 15 % of New Zealanders choose to live in Australia rather than New Zealand.

Got it.
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Green light echo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:24 am
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:43 am
Green light echo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:29 am

Because it's New Zealand and for some odd reason many Kiwis seem to prefer living in Australia to the alternative.

Baffling really.
I don’t know this year’s figures, and they will be skewed by covid anyway, but I’m pretty sure we’ve seen a tiny net outflow to Australia for the last five years or so - something like a net difference of 3,000 - 5,000 people leaving only. It’s not like the early 2000s when the net outflow was tens of thousands of people each year.
So around 15 % of New Zealanders choose to live in Australia rather than New Zealand.

Got it.
Is there any point to this post other than to act the cunt?

Nah. Didn't think so, bazza.
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... vel-bubble
But on the same day, the New Zealand prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, said the country would stand strong on its pledge to not open up until Australia, or specific states and territories, recorded a month without community transmission of Covid-19.

“That’s key for us. One of our criteria is 28 days clear,” she said.



“You can see from NSW, they themselves are still warning their population but they’re not at this stage clear as to whether they still have community transmission.”
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Green light echo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:24 am
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:43 am
Green light echo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:29 am

Because it's New Zealand and for some odd reason many Kiwis seem to prefer living in Australia to the alternative.

Baffling really.
I don’t know this year’s figures, and they will be skewed by covid anyway, but I’m pretty sure we’ve seen a tiny net outflow to Australia for the last five years or so - something like a net difference of 3,000 - 5,000 people leaving only. It’s not like the early 2000s when the net outflow was tens of thousands of people each year.
So around 15 % of New Zealanders choose to live in Australia rather than New Zealand.

Got it.
You should bow down and thank your lucky stars that they do. At least things get done over there
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Enzedder wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:09 am
Green light echo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:24 am
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:43 am
I don’t know this year’s figures, and they will be skewed by covid anyway, but I’m pretty sure we’ve seen a tiny net outflow to Australia for the last five years or so - something like a net difference of 3,000 - 5,000 people leaving only. It’s not like the early 2000s when the net outflow was tens of thousands of people each year.
So around 15 % of New Zealanders choose to live in Australia rather than New Zealand.

Got it.
You should bow down and thank your lucky stars that they do. At least things get done over there
Really? Getting things done. Like throwing Kiwi scumbags who have commited serious crimes into jail, detention, and deporting them back to the the country they all profess to love so much. Is that the kind of getting things done that you are talking about?
Weirdly many of those aforementoned scumbags are not too keen to actually live in NZ. Why is that? Could it be that New Zealand isn't the Garden of Eden they assure us it is?
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Green light echo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:24 am
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:43 am
Green light echo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:29 am

Because it's New Zealand and for some odd reason many Kiwis seem to prefer living in Australia to the alternative.

Baffling really.
I don’t know this year’s figures, and they will be skewed by covid anyway, but I’m pretty sure we’ve seen a tiny net outflow to Australia for the last five years or so - something like a net difference of 3,000 - 5,000 people leaving only. It’s not like the early 2000s when the net outflow was tens of thousands of people each year.
So around 15 % of New Zealanders choose to live in Australia rather than New Zealand.

Got it.
It's baffling. I suspect it's the dregs mostly and they feel more at home in Australia. This aligns with your claim they are all Kiwi scumbags. Still, it lifts the quality on both sides of the Tasman.
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There is no need to tar all Australians with the bazza brush, Muttonbird. None of us would look good if judged to the standard of our worst.
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Jb1981 wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:54 am There is no need to tar all Australians with the bazza brush, Muttonbird. None of us would look good if judged to the standard of our worst.
I feel you are looking at me. :think:
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Muttonbird wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:42 am
Jb1981 wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:54 am There is no need to tar all Australians with the bazza brush, Muttonbird. None of us would look good if judged to the standard of our worst.
I feel you are looking at me. :think:
:lol: but no, it was a general observation.
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