Things that don't deserve their own thread

[Sandstorm]

Not good

[BnM]

Nutella and a banana. Very British.

https://x.com/BurnsideNotTosh/status/18 ... 6328954936

[SaintK]

As at 3:00pm

At least eight people, feared to include several children, have been stabbed in Southport, where a man with a knife was arrested.
Armed police arrested a man and seized a knife after being called to the “major incident” at a property on Hart Street, in Southport, north of Liverpool, at about 11.50am on Monday.
The man has been taken to a police station and there was no wider threat to the public, police said.
North West ambulance service said it had so far treated eight patients with stab injuries, who have been taken to Alder Hey children’s hospital, Aintree university hospital and Southport and Formby hospital.
Alder Hey children’s hospital declared a major incident and asked parents not to bring their children to the emergency department unless it was urgent.

17 year old boy arrested.
Police cinfirm that it is not terror related and nobody else involved.

[C69]

As at 3:00pm

At least eight people, feared to include several children, have been stabbed in Southport, where a man with a knife was arrested.
Armed police arrested a man and seized a knife after being called to the “major incident” at a property on Hart Street, in Southport, north of Liverpool, at about 11.50am on Monday.
The man has been taken to a police station and there was no wider threat to the public, police said.
North West ambulance service said it had so far treated eight patients with stab injuries, who have been taken to Alder Hey children’s hospital, Aintree university hospital and Southport and Formby hospital.
Alder Hey children’s hospital declared a major incident and asked parents not to bring their children to the emergency department unless it was urgent.

17 year old boy arrested.
Police cinfirm that it is not terror related and nobody else involved.

Jesus, I walked down that street yesterday. My colleague in work has sent her children to the kids club where this happened.
Bit too fucking close to home.

[Uncle fester]

Two confirmed dead. Bound to be more sadly.

[Slick]

Two confirmed dead. Bound to be more sadly.

Just awful

[David in Gwent]

Just take note of the attacks and violence in the UK in the last couple of weeks, fuck that, just the last few days.

Extreme violence towards our communities and our protectors is being normalised and half truths are being spouted by the MSM, endlessly.

What happened today was like something out of a horror movie, a fucking horror movie.

It's not going to end any time soon.

[David in Gwent]

As at 3:00pm

At least eight people, feared to include several children, have been stabbed in Southport, where a man with a knife was arrested.
Armed police arrested a man and seized a knife after being called to the “major incident” at a property on Hart Street, in Southport, north of Liverpool, at about 11.50am on Monday.
The man has been taken to a police station and there was no wider threat to the public, police said.
North West ambulance service said it had so far treated eight patients with stab injuries, who have been taken to Alder Hey children’s hospital, Aintree university hospital and Southport and Formby hospital.
Alder Hey children’s hospital declared a major incident and asked parents not to bring their children to the emergency department unless it was urgent.

17 year old boy arrested.
Police cinfirm that it is not terror related and nobody else involved.

That's two "not terror related" but with very fucking specific targets in less than a week.

[sefton]

As at 3:00pm

17 year old boy arrested.
Police cinfirm that it is not terror related and nobody else involved.

Jesus, I walked down that street yesterday. My colleague in work has sent her children to the kids club where this happened.
Bit too fucking close to home.

Five minutes from my house. My girls had previously gone there. The wife has done exercise classes there. Just a really shit day.

[fishfoodie]

There has to be some middle ground between the industrialised "asylums" of the 50s & 60s, & the, "Care in the Community" model of here & now !

There is no way that someone who can commit an atrocity such as today's is, sane, or at least not by any definition that will satisfy me or 99.999% of humanity, & so we are left with the question of how society deals with people like this ?

There are countless examples of people who have severe mental-health issues, & the system processes them & decides they can be, "controlled" thru the wonders of pharma, but the individual doesn't want to take the pills, because the pills make them feel awful, so they just prefer to listen to the voices in their head, & their case worker has a hundred other cases, so no-one notices they've stopped attending or whatever.

Add in SM & the bad actors on there that seem to view other troubled people as toys & will say anything to monetize hate, & you end up with people who make money off the most horrific acts.

[David in Gwent]

There has to be some middle ground between the industrialised "asylums" of the 50s & 60s, & the, "Care in the Community" model of here & now !

There is no way that someone who can commit an atrocity such as today's is, sane, or at least not by any definition that will satisfy me or 99.999% of humanity, & so we are left with the question of how society deals with people like this ?

There are countless examples of people who have severe mental-health issues, & the system processes them & decides they can be, "controlled" thru the wonders of pharma, but the individual doesn't want to take the pills, because the pills make them feel awful, so they just prefer to listen to the voices in their head, & their case worker has a hundred other cases, so no-one notices they've stopped attending or whatever.

Add in SM & the bad actors on there that seem to view other troubled people as toys & will say anything to monetize hate, & you end up with people who make money off the most horrific acts.

What if that person is indoctrinated and radicalised by a cult? Do you treat the individual for MH issues or do you stop the root cause, the cult?

[David in Gwent]

Tommy Robinson has been arrested on terrorism charges, which is going to be very interesting.

Was arrested, released on bail and has now done a runner...

Tommy Robinson has left the country after committing “flagrant” contempt of court relating to a film played at a protest in central London, the High Court has been told.

An arrest warrant has been issued for Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, after he did not appear at the Royal Courts of Justice on Monday for a hearing in his latest contempt of court case.

The Solicitor General launched legal action against Robinson in June over an alleged breach of a court order after he lost a libel battle in 2021.

But Adam Payter, representing the Solicitor General, said it is believed Robinson left the jurisdiction hours after being released on unconditional bail following his arrest over the weekend.

[Guy Smiley]

A court orders the video not be played, so you come in here and play it.

A frenzied knife attack in Southport at a Taylor Swift themed dance class for kids resulting in death and injury and you wade into it with your usual nutbag conspiracy line... but wait

Kennedy said the 17-year-old suspect, who police said was born in Cardiff, will now be questioned by detectives

it's one of yours DAC. One of your own from your kitbag of conspiracy and terrorism. What now, raise the Spatula of Jihad and march on the streets of Wrexham?

[C69]

The man was not an immigrant but apparently it has been reported that his parents were.
Just like a number of our last government.

So sad that this may if true be weaponised.
Dreading work today

[Raggs]

There has to be some middle ground between the industrialised "asylums" of the 50s & 60s, & the, "Care in the Community" model of here & now !

There is no way that someone who can commit an atrocity such as today's is, sane, or at least not by any definition that will satisfy me or 99.999% of humanity, & so we are left with the question of how society deals with people like this ?

There are countless examples of people who have severe mental-health issues, & the system processes them & decides they can be, "controlled" thru the wonders of pharma, but the individual doesn't want to take the pills, because the pills make them feel awful, so they just prefer to listen to the voices in their head, & their case worker has a hundred other cases, so no-one notices they've stopped attending or whatever.

Add in SM & the bad actors on there that seem to view other troubled people as toys & will say anything to monetize hate, & you end up with people who make money off the most horrific acts.

There is exceptionally little mental health care out there. What there is, is massively overwhelmed and doesn't stand much of a chance. My wife works in care in the community, and has desperately asked repeatedly that they get at least the bare minimum of mental health training, but to no success. She's dealing with schizophrenic, bipolay, dementia etc etc with no training as to how they should be doing this (the conditions aren't necessarily the reason she's there, but these people often require more general care too).

Lets hope that labour do indeed overhaul mental health.

[epwc]

I know people that have waited months and months to even get a date. There is literally no provision right now. I’m glad the geezer didn’t shout anything Islamic but incidents like this whoever the perpetrator are down to mental health not ideology.

[David in Gwent]

A court orders the video not be played, so you come in here and play it.

A frenzied knife attack in Southport at a Taylor Swift themed dance class for kids resulting in death and injury and you wade into it with your usual nutbag conspiracy line... but wait

Kennedy said the 17-year-old suspect, who police said was born in Cardiff, will now be questioned by detectives

it's one of yours DAC. One of your own from your kitbag of conspiracy and terrorism. What now, raise the Spatula of Jihad and march on the streets of Wrexham?

The fact that the child killer is not a new arrival, but a second-generation immigrant, is worse

It means assimilation efforts completely failed

Born in Cardiff, brought up in Merseyside, and still derranged enough to stab a nursery full of children on a whim.

[David in Gwent]

.

[Uncle fester]

There has to be some middle ground between the industrialised "asylums" of the 50s & 60s, & the, "Care in the Community" model of here & now !

There is no way that someone who can commit an atrocity such as today's is, sane, or at least not by any definition that will satisfy me or 99.999% of humanity, & so we are left with the question of how society deals with people like this ?

There are countless examples of people who have severe mental-health issues, & the system processes them & decides they can be, "controlled" thru the wonders of pharma, but the individual doesn't want to take the pills, because the pills make them feel awful, so they just prefer to listen to the voices in their head, & their case worker has a hundred other cases, so no-one notices they've stopped attending or whatever.

Add in SM & the bad actors on there that seem to view other troubled people as toys & will say anything to monetize hate, & you end up with people who make money off the most horrific acts.

There is exceptionally little mental health care out there. What there is, is massively overwhelmed and doesn't stand much of a chance. My wife works in care in the community, and has desperately asked repeatedly that they get at least the bare minimum of mental health training, but to no success. She's dealing with schizophrenic, bipolay, dementia etc etc with no training as to how they should be doing this (the conditions aren't necessarily the reason she's there, but these people often require more general care too).

Lets hope that labour do indeed overhaul mental health.

There was a documentary recently on Jake Davison and his background leading into the Plymouth shootings. If ever there was a lad who should have been kept away from guns, it was this guy but it also looked at his deterioration once he left school and the sudden removal of supports that had been with him through his time in school.

[inactionman]

There has to be some middle ground between the industrialised "asylums" of the 50s & 60s, & the, "Care in the Community" model of here & now !

There is no way that someone who can commit an atrocity such as today's is, sane, or at least not by any definition that will satisfy me or 99.999% of humanity, & so we are left with the question of how society deals with people like this ?

There are countless examples of people who have severe mental-health issues, & the system processes them & decides they can be, "controlled" thru the wonders of pharma, but the individual doesn't want to take the pills, because the pills make them feel awful, so they just prefer to listen to the voices in their head, & their case worker has a hundred other cases, so no-one notices they've stopped attending or whatever.

Add in SM & the bad actors on there that seem to view other troubled people as toys & will say anything to monetize hate, & you end up with people who make money off the most horrific acts.

There is exceptionally little mental health care out there. What there is, is massively overwhelmed and doesn't stand much of a chance. My wife works in care in the community, and has desperately asked repeatedly that they get at least the bare minimum of mental health training, but to no success. She's dealing with schizophrenic, bipolay, dementia etc etc with no training as to how they should be doing this (the conditions aren't necessarily the reason she's there, but these people often require more general care too).

Lets hope that labour do indeed overhaul mental health.

There was a documentary recently on Jake Davison and his background leading into the Plymouth shootings. If ever there was a lad who should have been kept away from guns, it was this guy but it also looked at his deterioration once he left school and the sudden removal of supports that had been with him through his time in school.

It was pretty painful as it just looked so avoidable with some sensible intervention.

I wasn't always quite convinced on the veracity of what his mum, dad and step-dad had to say, but that's probably just because they're not particularly articulate or media-savvy (i.e. they're just everyday) people. To be honest, in perfect world helping them to help him would have been a good step.

On the topic of mental health workers and social workers in the round, and without being glib, I hold them in huge regard as they're doing very challenging work with minimal resource.

[Uncle fester]

There is exceptionally little mental health care out there. What there is, is massively overwhelmed and doesn't stand much of a chance. My wife works in care in the community, and has desperately asked repeatedly that they get at least the bare minimum of mental health training, but to no success. She's dealing with schizophrenic, bipolay, dementia etc etc with no training as to how they should be doing this (the conditions aren't necessarily the reason she's there, but these people often require more general care too).

Lets hope that labour do indeed overhaul mental health.

There was a documentary recently on Jake Davison and his background leading into the Plymouth shootings. If ever there was a lad who should have been kept away from guns, it was this guy but it also looked at his deterioration once he left school and the sudden removal of supports that had been with him through his time in school.

It was pretty painful as it just looked so avoidable with some sensible intervention.

I wasn't always quite convinced on the veracity of what his mum, dad and step-dad had to say, but that's probably just because they're not particularly articulate or media-savvy (i.e. they're just everyday) people. To be honest, in perfect world helping them to help him would have been a good step.

On the topic of mental health workers and social workers in the round, and without being glib, I hold them in huge regard as they're doing very challenging work with minimal resource.

Agreed on the middle bit and would also add the former teacher and classmate to that. You suspect that they might have been playing up their parts but it's pretty clear the guy needed support.

Tough watching for anybody with family members who receive additional support in the school system.

[Conor]

A court orders the video not be played, so you come in here and play it.

A frenzied knife attack in Southport at a Taylor Swift themed dance class for kids resulting in death and injury and you wade into it with your usual nutbag conspiracy line... but wait

Kennedy said the 17-year-old suspect, who police said was born in Cardiff, will now be questioned by detectives

it's one of yours DAC. One of your own from your kitbag of conspiracy and terrorism. What now, raise the Spatula of Jihad and march on the streets of Wrexham?

[shaggy]

There has to be some middle ground between the industrialised "asylums" of the 50s & 60s, & the, "Care in the Community" model of here & now !

There is no way that someone who can commit an atrocity such as today's is, sane, or at least not by any definition that will satisfy me or 99.999% of humanity, & so we are left with the question of how society deals with people like this ?

There are countless examples of people who have severe mental-health issues, & the system processes them & decides they can be, "controlled" thru the wonders of pharma, but the individual doesn't want to take the pills, because the pills make them feel awful, so they just prefer to listen to the voices in their head, & their case worker has a hundred other cases, so no-one notices they've stopped attending or whatever.

Add in SM & the bad actors on there that seem to view other troubled people as toys & will say anything to monetize hate, & you end up with people who make money off the most horrific acts.

There is exceptionally little mental health care out there. What there is, is massively overwhelmed and doesn't stand much of a chance. My wife works in care in the community, and has desperately asked repeatedly that they get at least the bare minimum of mental health training, but to no success. She's dealing with schizophrenic, bipolay, dementia etc etc with no training as to how they should be doing this (the conditions aren't necessarily the reason she's there, but these people often require more general care too).

Lets hope that labour do indeed overhaul mental health.

Mental health provision has been decimated since the 80s/90s. No government of any colour has deemed it a priority to fix.

[epwc]

Good riddance, mental fuckwit:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3geqp8vx08o

[sefton]

A court orders the video not be played, so you come in here and play it.

A frenzied knife attack in Southport at a Taylor Swift themed dance class for kids resulting in death and injury and you wade into it with your usual nutbag conspiracy line... but wait

Kennedy said the 17-year-old suspect, who police said was born in Cardiff, will now be questioned by detectives

it's one of yours DAC. One of your own from your kitbag of conspiracy and terrorism. What now, raise the Spatula of Jihad and march on the streets of Wrexham?

The fact that the child killer is not a new arrival, but a second-generation immigrant, is worse

It means assimilation efforts completely failed

Born in Cardiff, brought up in Merseyside, and still derranged enough to stab a nursery full of children on a whim.

You’ve no idea why the attack happened, you just assume because you’re an odious racist little cunt.

[inactionman]

17 year old boy arrested.
Police cinfirm that it is not terror related and nobody else involved.

Jesus, I walked down that street yesterday. My colleague in work has sent her children to the kids club where this happened.
Bit too fucking close to home.

Five minutes from my house. My girls had previously gone there. The wife has done exercise classes there. Just a really shit day.

It's just dreadful stuff.

Not sure if mentioned here, but a third child has died. Girls of 6, 7 and 9.

[sefton]

Jesus, I walked down that street yesterday. My colleague in work has sent her children to the kids club where this happened.
Bit too fucking close to home.

Five minutes from my house. My girls had previously gone there. The wife has done exercise classes there. Just a really shit day.

It's just dreadful stuff.

Not sure if mentioned here, but a third child has died. Girls of 6, 7 and 9.

The girl who has been named lives around the corner from our girl’s primary school in Crossens.

[Zapp Bannigan]

DAC won't be posting again

[tabascoboy]

DAC won't be posting again

I think we've heard that before

[fishfoodie]

I do like living in the Countryside !

I just wandered up to the back of my garden to get something from the shed, & as I was opening the door I noticed the young fox I've seen lately rooting around in my compost heap, only 3m meters away; he looked up, I said hello, & he re-commenced rooting for food

I christened him "Hollywood" when I first spotted him, as he has film star good looks, he's straight from central casting.

And last night I was looking thru the footage on my wildlife can, & among all the clips of Hollywood, I spotted a Pine Marten skipping thru the garden

I think this place saved my sanity during Covid

I'll pop up some photos up once I copy the files off the SD Card

[inactionman]

[media][/media]

I do like living in the Countryside !

I just wandered up to the back of my garden to get something from the shed, & as I was opening the door I noticed the young fox I've seen lately rooting around in my compost heap, only 3m meters away; he looked up, I said hello, & he re-commenced rooting for food

I christened him "Hollywood" when I first spotted him, as he has film star good looks, he's straight from central casting.

And last night I was looking thru the footage on my wildlife can, & among all the clips of Hollywood, I spotted a Pine Marten skipping thru the garden

I think this place saved my sanity during Covid

I'll pop up some photos up once I copy the files off the SD Card

I love foxes - we get one in our garden who just lounges about.

I gather they're not so great when you get them breeding, but so far he's been on his own.



Image quality a bit crappy as shot through a window

[Uncle fester]

Don't know if anyone remembers Mark off the old old bored but he regularly gets foxes in his back garden and they feed them now.

Seeing as he lives on South coast, I thought it was an euphemism for housing refugees but he sent me pictures to prove it.

[Slick]

DAC won't be posting again

Whilst the bloke is a total scumbag, I do find him quite fascinating.

It’s difficult to imagine a more perfect example of someone being radicalised online. He always had a hint of cunt even back in the day, but to watch his progression from that to full racist conspiracy theory nut job over the course of the last few years has been fairly incredible. You hear about it happening but to watch it unfold is actually a little scary.

[dpedin]

[media][/media]

I do like living in the Countryside !

I just wandered up to the back of my garden to get something from the shed, & as I was opening the door I noticed the young fox I've seen lately rooting around in my compost heap, only 3m meters away; he looked up, I said hello, & he re-commenced rooting for food

I christened him "Hollywood" when I first spotted him, as he has film star good looks, he's straight from central casting.

And last night I was looking thru the footage on my wildlife can, & among all the clips of Hollywood, I spotted a Pine Marten skipping thru the garden

I think this place saved my sanity during Covid

I'll pop up some photos up once I copy the files off the SD Card

I love foxes - we get one in our garden who just lounges about.

I gather they're not so great when you get them breeding, but so far he's been on his own.



Image quality a bit crappy as shot through a window

I live on the outskirts of Edinburgh and lucky enough to live right next to Water of Leith river. Lots of wild life including foxes but love catching glimpses of the kingfishers on the water and the otters further downstream from me. Not to keen on the water rats mind you! Playing golf this afternoon and will no doubt catch a sight of the red deer who live on course and the family of buzzards that nest in trees next to 6th tee and 12th fairway.

[Uncle fester]

DAC won't be posting again

Whilst the bloke is a total scumbag, I do find him quite fascinating.

It’s difficult to imagine a more perfect example of someone being radicalised online. He always had a hint of cunt even back in the day, but to watch his progression from that to full racist conspiracy theory nut job over the course of the last few years has been fairly incredible. You hear about it happening but to watch it unfold is actually a little scary.

There was a time when he used to post about normal stuff but that's long gone. Hopefully he's on a watchlist.

[Slick]

[media][/media]

I do like living in the Countryside !

I just wandered up to the back of my garden to get something from the shed, & as I was opening the door I noticed the young fox I've seen lately rooting around in my compost heap, only 3m meters away; he looked up, I said hello, & he re-commenced rooting for food

I christened him "Hollywood" when I first spotted him, as he has film star good looks, he's straight from central casting.

And last night I was looking thru the footage on my wildlife can, & among all the clips of Hollywood, I spotted a Pine Marten skipping thru the garden

I think this place saved my sanity during Covid

I'll pop up some photos up once I copy the files off the SD Card

I love foxes - we get one in our garden who just lounges about.

I gather they're not so great when you get them breeding, but so far he's been on his own.



Image quality a bit crappy as shot through a window

I live on the outskirts of Edinburgh and lucky enough to live right next to Water of Leith river. Lots of wild life including foxes but love catching glimpses of the kingfishers on the water and the otters further downstream from me. Not to keen on the water rats mind you! Playing golf this afternoon and will no doubt catch a sight of the red deer who live on course and the family of buzzards that nest in trees next to 6th tee and 12th fairway.

We had dolphins and seals at Porty the last couple of days with rumours of a Humpback making its way down from North Berwick today

[inactionman]

[media][/media]

I love foxes - we get one in our garden who just lounges about.

I gather they're not so great when you get them breeding, but so far he's been on his own.



Image quality a bit crappy as shot through a window

I live on the outskirts of Edinburgh and lucky enough to live right next to Water of Leith river. Lots of wild life including foxes but love catching glimpses of the kingfishers on the water and the otters further downstream from me. Not to keen on the water rats mind you! Playing golf this afternoon and will no doubt catch a sight of the red deer who live on course and the family of buzzards that nest in trees next to 6th tee and 12th fairway.

We had dolphins and seals at Porty the last couple of days with rumours of a Humpback making its way down from North Berwick today

Did you race them?

I'll see about bringing kids over, we took them to Farne Isles and they loved the seals.

[Slick]

I live on the outskirts of Edinburgh and lucky enough to live right next to Water of Leith river. Lots of wild life including foxes but love catching glimpses of the kingfishers on the water and the otters further downstream from me. Not to keen on the water rats mind you! Playing golf this afternoon and will no doubt catch a sight of the red deer who live on course and the family of buzzards that nest in trees next to 6th tee and 12th fairway.

We had dolphins and seals at Porty the last couple of days with rumours of a Humpback making its way down from North Berwick today

Did you race them?

I'll see about bringing kids over, we took them to Farne Isles and they loved the seals.

Didn’t have time to get the Kayak out, they are incredibly unhelpful.

Let me know, we are practically living on the beach at the moment

[Niegs]

[tabascoboy]

Call me a nerd but I love these kinds of discoveries:

Archaeologists find stone tool marks on 21,000-year-old Glyptodont bones in Argentina, challenging traditional dates for human settlement in South America

Abstract: The initial peopling of South America is a topic of intense archaeological debate. Among the most contentious issues remain the nature of the human-megafauna interaction and the possible role of humans, along with climatic change, in the extinction of several megamammal genera at the end of the Pleistocene. In this study, we present the analysis of fossil remains with cutmarks belonging to a specimen of Neosclerocalyptus (Xenarthra, Glyptodontidae), found on the banks of the Reconquista River, northeast of the Pampean region (Argentina), whose AMS 14C dating corresponds to the Last Glacial Maximum (21,090–20,811 cal YBP). Paleoenvironmental reconstructions, stratigraphic descriptions, absolute chronological dating of bone materials, and deposits suggest a relatively rapid burial event of the bone assemblage in a semi-dry climate during a wet season. Quantitative and qualitative analyses of the cut marks, reconstruction of butchering sequences, and assessments of the possible agents involved in the observed bone surface modifications indicate anthropic activities. Our results provide new elements for discussing the earliest peopling of southern South America and specifically for the interaction between humans and local megafauna in the Pampean region during the Last Glacial Maximum.

The initial peopling of South America is a topic of intense archaeological debate. Among the most contentious issues remain the nature of the human-megafauna interaction and the possible role of humans, along with climatic change, in the extinction of several megamammal genera at the end of the Pleistocene..... Our results provide new elements for discussing the earliest peopling of southern South America and specifically for the interaction between humans and local megafauna in the Pampean region during the Last Glacial Maximum.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/artic ... ne.0304956