World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.
Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.
Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner
RWC 2023 seedings
https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw
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Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?
Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?
Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.
Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?
Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.
To be fair, we can't complain about the fact that they are comfortably better than 90% of the other teams.
If the only team who can consistently trouble them are NZ, then pretty much any journey to the final will be an armchair ride.
If the only team who can consistently trouble them are NZ, then pretty much any journey to the final will be an armchair ride.
Don't worry. I've been drinking.
Yawn.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?
Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?
Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.
Is it 1st April?Akkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw
World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.
Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.
Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner
1st January wasn't the last time everyone could play. We still had most of the 6N for goodness' sake, and the SH were sure as hell not prevented from playing any earlier than Ireland, say.
The main effect, of course, is to push Scotland down into pot 3 and Japan up. How convenient.
The Scots will clearly find themselves in a pot with NZ and France-at-home. They'd do well to make it through that... Then again, there could be Wales and one of the others. That'd be kinder.
But seriously, WorldRugby. These seedings are always based on rankings fixed far too early. And these are almost a year earlier!
charltom wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:56 pmIs it 1st April?Akkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw
World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.
Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.
Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner
1st January wasn't the last time everyone could play. We still had most of the 6N for goodness' sake, and the SH were sure as hell not prevented from playing any earlier than Ireland, say.
The main effect, of course, is to push Scotland down into pot 3 and Japan up. How convenient.
The Scots will clearly find themselves in a pot with NZ and France-at-home. They'd do well to make it through that... Then again, there could be Wales and one of the others. That'd be kinder.
But seriously, WorldRugby. These seedings are always based on rankings fixed far too early. And these are almost a year earlier!
As a Scot, I'd like another shot at Japan, that was a cracker of a tournament game and a deserved win for Japan.
I'd like the opportunity to settle the account.
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Which tired team are you referring to?Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?
Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?
Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.
Obviously not.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?
Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?
Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.
Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?
Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?
Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.
Hey I completely agree with you. Getting England in the finals is great....

They spelt Namibia wrong.Akkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw
World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.
Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.
Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner
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So band 4 will be Samoa, Tonga, Georgia and USA, in all likelihood. I don't see any teams that challenge in those regions. Although the same quick decline that happened in Canada could happen to the USA as well, of course, bringing Canada back into the fray..
Hoping for some new blood in band 5 - Brazil from the Americas possibly the best shout? Europe 2 currently looks like a battle between Spain and Portugal. Would be lovely if the likes of Belgium or The Netherlands could challenge but it's too early for the Dutch probably and too late for the Belgians.
Stupidly early for a draw anyway.
Hoping for some new blood in band 5 - Brazil from the Americas possibly the best shout? Europe 2 currently looks like a battle between Spain and Portugal. Would be lovely if the likes of Belgium or The Netherlands could challenge but it's too early for the Dutch probably and too late for the Belgians.
Stupidly early for a draw anyway.
I'm kind of sure England played 1 game less than us.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?
Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?
Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
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Wales were lucky as fuck to beat France in the quarters.
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Wales? Fok they were lucky not to face Japan in the quarters.OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:42 amWales were lucky as fuck to beat France in the quarters.
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We're not Scotland you knowaverage joe wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:31 amWales? Fok they were lucky not to face Japan in the quarters.OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:42 amWales were lucky as fuck to beat France in the quarters.
Congratulations NZInsane_Homer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:04 am3 Bronze medals is something to be proud of, no other nation has more![]()
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Be honest, you were shaking in your boots after the brave blossoms demolished Samoa, Ireland and Scotland. There was such a huge fokon sigh of relief emitting from Wales when you realized you wont need to face them, the whole world heard it. It was like the world let out a huge drawn out fart.frodder wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:44 pmWe're not Scotland you knowaverage joe wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:31 amWales? Fok they were lucky not to face Japan in the quarters.OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:42 am
Wales were lucky as fuck to beat France in the quarters.
A group with wales Ireland Scotland Georgia + minnow would be fun from an English point of viewAkkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw
World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.
Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.
Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner
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Only 3 teams can win, realistically. Just call the whole thing off and make it a tournament between SA, France, and England.
Zimbabwe beat the Netherlands 30-7 on the weekend.
Qualifiers begin on the weekend: https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/qualifiers/africa
Qualifiers begin on the weekend: https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/qualifiers/africa
I guess you're fishing for Irish outrage?Lemoentjie wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:10 am Only 3 teams can win, realistically. Just call the whole thing off and make it a tournament between SA, France, and England.
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That was 2 years ago.TheFrog wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:55 pmI guess you're fishing for Irish outrage?Lemoentjie wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:10 am Only 3 teams can win, realistically. Just call the whole thing off and make it a tournament between SA, France, and England.
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:53 pmThat was 2 years ago.TheFrog wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:55 pmI guess you're fishing for Irish outrage?Lemoentjie wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:10 am Only 3 teams can win, realistically. Just call the whole thing off and make it a tournament between SA, France, and England.

Still.
Current world rankings would give usAkkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw
World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.
Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.
Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner
Band 1 South Africa France New Zealand Ireland
Band 2 England Australia Scotland Argentina
Band 3 Wales Japan Fiji Italy
And assuming the draw went exactly the same way, the groups would be
France Scotland Italy Uruguay Africa 1
South Africa England Wales Asia Pac 1 Romania
Ireland Australia Fiji Georgia Repechage
New Zealand Argentina Japan Samoa Americas 2
I think that’s a better draw.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
LolBiffer wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:45 pmCurrent world rankings would give usAkkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw
World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.
Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.
Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner
Band 1 South Africa France New Zealand Ireland
Band 2 England Australia Scotland Argentina
Band 3 Wales Japan Fiji Italy
And assuming the draw went exactly the same way, the groups would be
France Scotland Italy Uruguay Africa 1
South Africa England Wales Asia Pac 1 Romania
Ireland Australia Fiji Georgia Repechage
New Zealand Argentina Japan Samoa Americas 2
I think that’s a better draw.
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Wonder if anyone can put up a winning challenge to Namibia this time, NAM often have had some home advantage but in neutral territory perhaps things will even up a bitassfly wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:26 pm Zimbabwe beat the Netherlands 30-7 on the weekend.
Qualifiers begin on the weekend: https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/qualifiers/africa
