Vaccines are shit

[epwc]

This is the tech that BioNTech had been working on pre Covid that was used for their Covid vaccine

https://www.theguardian.com/society/art ... -countries

This is what the Oxford vaccine was based on:

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2023-10-02-ox ... way-global

Vaccines, whats the point eh?

[dpedin]

This is the tech that BioNTech had been working on pre Covid that was used for their Covid vaccine

https://www.theguardian.com/society/art ... -countries

This is what the Oxford vaccine was based on:

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2023-10-02-ox ... way-global

Vaccines, whats the point eh?

Just think of all the microchips going to be injected into poor patients who are going to be under the control of Bill Gates! Tin foil sales must be going through the roof!

[Calculon]

How does that work through cos the point of a vaccine is to prime the immune system so that you have a secondary immune response when you first infected by the pathogen but for this it’s given only after you have cancer and already been exposed to the tumor antigens?

Racz received six consecutive injections five minutes apart over 30 minutes at the National Institute for Health Research UCLH Clinical Research Facility on Tuesday.

Each jab contained different RNA strands. He will get the vaccine every week for six consecutive weeks, and then every three weeks for 54 weeks.

That’s a 144 jabs over 60 weeks, yikes

[Sandstorm]

How does that work through cos the point of a vaccine is to prime the immune system so that you have a secondary immune response when you first infected by the pathogen but for this it’s given only after you have cancer and already been exposed to the tumor antigens?

Racz received six consecutive injections five minutes apart over 30 minutes at the National Institute for Health Research UCLH Clinical Research Facility on Tuesday.

Each jab contained different RNA strands. He will get the vaccine every week for six consecutive weeks, and then every three weeks for 54 weeks.

That’s a 144 jabs over 60 weeks, yikes

I can only assume that Racz is a monkey or a large rat. Who would inject that much experimental stuff into a human in such a short time??

[Biffer]

How does that work through cos the point of a vaccine is to prime the immune system so that you have a secondary immune response when you first infected by the pathogen but for this it’s given only after you have cancer and already been exposed to the tumor antigens?

Racz received six consecutive injections five minutes apart over 30 minutes at the National Institute for Health Research UCLH Clinical Research Facility on Tuesday.

Each jab contained different RNA strands. He will get the vaccine every week for six consecutive weeks, and then every three weeks for 54 weeks.

That’s a 144 jabs over 60 weeks, yikes

Yeah, I'm not sure it's not entirely accurate to describe these as vaccines. Although they're doing the same thing as vaccines, training the immune system. But I assume because cancer is more static, the immune system can just attack it in place, as in early stage cancer at least, it's not infecting new cells all the time like a virus would. There may also be something about duration of infection with a virus, and the speed it acts at - the effect of a virus normally happens in days and weeks, which is less time than it takes your immune system to react to a vaccine fully. In cancer it's just sitting there so if the full effects of the vaccination occur a few weeks after injection that's fine?

[Biffer]

How does that work through cos the point of a vaccine is to prime the immune system so that you have a secondary immune response when you first infected by the pathogen but for this it’s given only after you have cancer and already been exposed to the tumor antigens?

Racz received six consecutive injections five minutes apart over 30 minutes at the National Institute for Health Research UCLH Clinical Research Facility on Tuesday.

Each jab contained different RNA strands. He will get the vaccine every week for six consecutive weeks, and then every three weeks for 54 weeks.

That’s a 144 jabs over 60 weeks, yikes

I can only assume that Racz is a monkey or a large rat. Who would inject that much experimental stuff into a human in such a short time??

In terms of who would do it - researchers man, they do all sorts of shit

In terms of who would subject themselves to it - somebody dying of cancer.

And aas it moves towards a licensed treatment I'm pretty sure the jabs will become multivalent (i.e. all six in one injection, like the flu vaccine).

Is it worse than chemo?

[epwc]

In terms of who would subject themselves to it - somebody dying of cancer.

I smoked from the age of 12 to 55, fuck me Ive got a good chance of getting lung cancer, if I was to have a decent prognosis with that many jabs I'd sign up

[Jethro]

This is the tech that BioNTech had been working on pre Covid that was used for their Covid vaccine

https://www.theguardian.com/society/art ... -countries

This is what the Oxford vaccine was based on:

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2023-10-02-ox ... way-global

Vaccines, whats the point eh?

Just think of all the microchips going to be injected into poor patients who are going to be under the control of Bill Gates! Tin foil sales must be going through the roof!

I'm waiting on Donald Trump to confirm this before getting angry, then I am going to show em by posting shite on TikTok

[Niegs]

In terms of who would subject themselves to it - somebody dying of cancer.

I smoked from the age of 12 to 55, fuck me Ive got a good chance of getting lung cancer, if I was to have a decent prognosis with that many jabs I'd sign up

All the best in NOT getting it, but I understand that mindset. My deceased grandparents and two great grandparents of mine got Alzheimers before dying. I'd take something in hopes of preventing it if such a thing was developed.

Cautionary Tales podcast this week looked at the notion of willing 'human guinea pigs', going back to Yellow Fever trials. I forget the number, but he said a lot signed up for Covid trials, yet touched upon the hesitancy of powers-that-be to go as far as some willing participants would be okay with.
https://timharford.com/2024/08/cautiona ... low-fever/

[Jethro]

In terms of who would subject themselves to it - somebody dying of cancer.

I smoked from the age of 12 to 55, fuck me Ive got a good chance of getting lung cancer, if I was to have a decent prognosis with that many jabs I'd sign up

All the best in NOT getting it, but I understand that mindset. My deceased grandparents and two great grandparents of mine got Alzheimers before dying. I'd take something in hopes of preventing it if such a thing was developed.

Cautionary Tales podcast this week looked at the notion of willing 'human guinea pigs', going back to Yellow Fever trials. I forget the number, but he said a lot signed up for Covid trials, yet touched upon the hesitancy of powers-that-be to go as far as some willing participants would be okay with.
https://timharford.com/2024/08/cautiona ... low-fever/

Have a vague notion there's a drug with good results in trials at the moment, not sure where I read that though.

[Slick]

In terms of who would subject themselves to it - somebody dying of cancer.

I smoked from the age of 12 to 55, fuck me Ive got a good chance of getting lung cancer, if I was to have a decent prognosis with that many jabs I'd sign up

All the best in NOT getting it, but I understand that mindset. My deceased grandparents and two great grandparents of mine got Alzheimers before dying. I'd take something in hopes of preventing it if such a thing was developed.

Cautionary Tales podcast this week looked at the notion of willing 'human guinea pigs', going back to Yellow Fever trials. I forget the number, but he said a lot signed up for Covid trials, yet touched upon the hesitancy of powers-that-be to go as far as some willing participants would be okay with.
https://timharford.com/2024/08/cautiona ... low-fever/

I’m the same, dad and gran had it, dad early onset. Scares the shit out of me and any small memory lapse puts me in a panic.

[MungoMan]

I smoked from the age of 12 to 55, fuck me Ive got a good chance of getting lung cancer, if I was to have a decent prognosis with that many jabs I'd sign up

All the best in NOT getting it, but I understand that mindset. My deceased grandparents and two great grandparents of mine got Alzheimers before dying. I'd take something in hopes of preventing it if such a thing was developed.

Cautionary Tales podcast this week looked at the notion of willing 'human guinea pigs', going back to Yellow Fever trials. I forget the number, but he said a lot signed up for Covid trials, yet touched upon the hesitancy of powers-that-be to go as far as some willing participants would be okay with.
https://timharford.com/2024/08/cautiona ... low-fever/

I’m the same, dad and gran had it, dad early onset. Scares the shit out of me and any small memory lapse puts me in a panic.

My paternal grand-dad was getting a bit loopy, but he pegged out from a heart attack having not seen the inside off a hospital ward or old folks' home. Mum & dad were both compos mentis when they died.

I'm hoping to keel over still normally under-equipped, mentally.

[Slick]

All the best in NOT getting it, but I understand that mindset. My deceased grandparents and two great grandparents of mine got Alzheimers before dying. I'd take something in hopes of preventing it if such a thing was developed.

Cautionary Tales podcast this week looked at the notion of willing 'human guinea pigs', going back to Yellow Fever trials. I forget the number, but he said a lot signed up for Covid trials, yet touched upon the hesitancy of powers-that-be to go as far as some willing participants would be okay with.
https://timharford.com/2024/08/cautiona ... low-fever/

I’m the same, dad and gran had it, dad early onset. Scares the shit out of me and any small memory lapse puts me in a panic.

My paternal grand-dad was getting a bit loopy, but he pegged out from a heart attack having not seen the inside off a hospital ward or old folks' home. Mum & dad were both compos mentis when they died.

I'm hoping to keel over still normally under-equipped, mentally.

Well this is reassuring