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Condolences mate - glad you are there for your dad.

Sadly, my brother is on the same path - pain relief only as he slips away. I wish I could get down there one more time but I am so crook (heavy cold that I don't want to pass on to anyone). Glad that video calls are possible these days.
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Condolences TB, really difficult when the first of your parents goes
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TB63 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 6:01 am Got the phone call at 3.30 this morning. Just taken dad down to say goodbye finally. They've been together for 80 years so he's not taking it very well..
So very sorry mate. Best wishes to you and your family at this difficult time.

Please forgive me intruding and I hope this is not unwelcome, this is just something we found really helped my dad in particular when we lost our mum and it might be of use. We got in touch with an artist to make a piece of art out of loads of very personal knick-knacks (even down to a bottle of the rose wine she loved) to put up above the mantelpiece. It had ticket stubs for les mis, tacky souvenirs from Spain when we were kids - just loads and loads of really happy memories. It helped lift everyone's spirits.

I know it might not seem like it now, but you'll move from the pain of losing her to the happy memories you have with/of her.
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TB63

Condolences, mate. Your Dad is going to need lots of loving care and support. Wishing you and your family all the best
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Sorry to hear that man, lost my Mum last year at 92, sat through the night with her then she died the following day. Tough time, condolences to you and yours.
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Someone has a very nice collection of vintage Casio keyboards & found a great way to show them off.

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This looks fun

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Scotland's first alpine coaster pictured as Midlothian Council issues drone warning
Midlothian Council has released new images of an upcoming alpine coaster at the Midlothian Snowsports Centre as it nears completion, but has warned people not to fly drones near the site.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland- ... d-32459485

Apologies for the link to the redirect hell that is the record website, but I just loved the way they have to end a positive headline on a downer.

It's supposed to open next month, plenty of building work going on at the Hillend junction so they've definitely been busy.
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inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:56 am This looks fun

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Scotland's first alpine coaster pictured as Midlothian Council issues drone warning
Midlothian Council has released new images of an upcoming alpine coaster at the Midlothian Snowsports Centre as it nears completion, but has warned people not to fly drones near the site.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland- ... d-32459485

Apologies for the link to the redirect hell that is the record website, but I just loved the way they have to end a positive headline on a downer.

It's supposed to open next month, plenty of building work going on at the Hillend junction so they've definitely been busy.
Why does the car have a steering wheel?
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:10 am
inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:56 am This looks fun

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Scotland's first alpine coaster pictured as Midlothian Council issues drone warning
Midlothian Council has released new images of an upcoming alpine coaster at the Midlothian Snowsports Centre as it nears completion, but has warned people not to fly drones near the site.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland- ... d-32459485

Apologies for the link to the redirect hell that is the record website, but I just loved the way they have to end a positive headline on a downer.

It's supposed to open next month, plenty of building work going on at the Hillend junction so they've definitely been busy.
Why does the car have a steering wheel?
Because kids are daft.

Although I'm sure my youngest will somehow be able to drive it straight off the tracks.
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inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:13 am
Although I'm sure my youngest will somehow be able to drive it straight off the tracks.
:lol:
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inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:56 am This looks fun

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Scotland's first alpine coaster pictured as Midlothian Council issues drone warning
Midlothian Council has released new images of an upcoming alpine coaster at the Midlothian Snowsports Centre as it nears completion, but has warned people not to fly drones near the site.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland- ... d-32459485

Apologies for the link to the redirect hell that is the record website, but I just loved the way they have to end a positive headline on a downer.

It's supposed to open next month, plenty of building work going on at the Hillend junction so they've definitely been busy.
I took a walk up the hill past it a couple of weeks ago. It's seriously steep and I would imagine it will go like sh#t of a shovel.
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Must go for a walk up there soon to see what it's like.

Not going on it, far too old and fat for that v
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Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 6:28 pm Must go for a walk up there soon to see what it's like.

Not going on it, far too old and fat for that v
Feck no from me as well!

Learnt to ski many years ago at Hillend, hated it with wind, rain and cold but as I was told at the time if you can ski at Hillend you can ski anywhere! Then had a ski weekend at Glenshee, my first time on snow, in a snow storm with zero visibility. I hated every minute. Luckily we had booked our ski trip to Italy before I had my lessons at Hillend and Glenshee otherwise I would have given up. I loved every minute of skiing on real show in the sun. Had 2 week ski holidays across Europe and US for the next 30 years and loved it. And yes I did suffer Hillend thumb injury!
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mat the expat wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:46 am
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Uncle fester wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:22 pm

Philips screws actually aren't great for camming out either. They came about because Henry Ford didn't want to pay for Robertson screws.
interesting few posts fester, always wondered why robertson screws weren't more widely used,

it's all torx/tx nowadays anyway. Philips/pozi have had their day. Certainly in construction carpentry
Now I know the name of the screws used in my Pool Deck!

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More about screws. Bet you didn't know about JIS.
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Tributes have been paid after the death of Herbie Flowers, the session musician whose instantly recognisable bassline on Lou Reed’s Walk on the Wild Side is considered one of the greatest in pop music history.

Flowers, who also played bass for David Bowie, Marc Bolan, Paul McCartney, Bryan Ferry and Elton John, has died aged 86.
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Gumboot wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:27 am
Tributes have been paid after the death of Herbie Flowers, the session musician whose instantly recognisable bassline on Lou Reed’s Walk on the Wild Side is considered one of the greatest in pop music history.

Flowers, who also played bass for David Bowie, Marc Bolan, Paul McCartney, Bryan Ferry and Elton John, has died aged 86.
RIP

The bass in that song is stunning.
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Kiwias wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:59 amRIP

The bass in that song is stunning.
Yep, iconic. Think Mr Smiley posted that it's his favourite song.
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Gumboot wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:39 am
Kiwias wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:59 amRIP

The bass in that song is stunning.
Yep, iconic. Think Mr Smiley posted that it's his favourite song.
It is... :thumbup:

RIP Herbie Flowers. (it's two basses)

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Guy Smiley wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:45 am
Gumboot wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:39 am
Kiwias wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:59 amRIP

The bass in that song is stunning.
Yep, iconic. Think Mr Smiley posted that it's his favourite song.
It is... :thumbup:

RIP Herbie Flowers. (it's two basses)

RIP.

I listened to a lot of Sky in my youth. I met Herbie at one of their Christmas gigs as my uncle was supporting them. Herbie didn't understand why I wanted him to sign the album I had purchased - didn't think he was important enough :lol:
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Woodchipper. Very. Very. Slowly !

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8drzm09j0o
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fishfoodie wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:09 pm Woodchipper. Very. Very. Slowly !

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8drzm09j0o
The suspect is aware of police methodologies? What does that mean? A spook maybe?
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Uncle fester wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:44 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:09 pm Woodchipper. Very. Very. Slowly !

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8drzm09j0o
The suspect is aware of police methodologies? What does that mean? A spook maybe?
He knew Brizzie coppers would take 7 days to get organised, so he fled on Day 6.
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Onya, Chaz!

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I said on another thread I'd been reading Ultra-Processed People by Dr Chris Van Tulleken. It's pretty good and very shocking.

But I got to a bit last night where he claimed that it doesn't matter how much exercise you do our bodies don't burn any more calories. So for a man it's about 2500 calories a day (or similar) and no matter what exercise you do, that's all our bodies will burn, so exercise is no good for weight loss. That seems mental
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Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:45 am I said on another thread I'd been reading Ultra-Processed People by Dr Chris Van Tulleken. It's pretty good and very shocking.

But I got to a bit last night where he claimed that it doesn't matter how much exercise you do our bodies don't burn any more calories. So for a man it's about 2500 calories a day (or similar) and no matter what exercise you do, that's all our bodies will burn, so exercise is no good for weight loss. That seems mental
Sounds like pretty obvious bullshit
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Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:45 am I said on another thread I'd been reading Ultra-Processed People by Dr Chris Van Tulleken. It's pretty good and very shocking.

But I got to a bit last night where he claimed that it doesn't matter how much exercise you do our bodies don't burn any more calories. So for a man it's about 2500 calories a day (or similar) and no matter what exercise you do, that's all our bodies will burn, so exercise is no good for weight loss. That seems mental
Does he mean we can't do more than 2,500 calories of work, or that exercise won't increase our base metabolism so we'll always burn the same for a given level of activity, regardless of fitness/muscle mass?
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inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:14 am
Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:45 am I said on another thread I'd been reading Ultra-Processed People by Dr Chris Van Tulleken. It's pretty good and very shocking.

But I got to a bit last night where he claimed that it doesn't matter how much exercise you do our bodies don't burn any more calories. So for a man it's about 2500 calories a day (or similar) and no matter what exercise you do, that's all our bodies will burn, so exercise is no good for weight loss. That seems mental
Does he mean we can't do more than 2,500 calories of work, or that exercise won't increase our base metabolism so we'll always burn the same for a given level of activity, regardless of fitness/muscle mass?
He's saying that our body burns 2500 calories a day whether we sit on our arse or go for a run. If we run we might burn more calories whilst running, but our body then cuts back on the calories it burns for the rest of the day, so there is no gain.
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Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:00 am
Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:45 am I said on another thread I'd been reading Ultra-Processed People by Dr Chris Van Tulleken. It's pretty good and very shocking.

But I got to a bit last night where he claimed that it doesn't matter how much exercise you do our bodies don't burn any more calories. So for a man it's about 2500 calories a day (or similar) and no matter what exercise you do, that's all our bodies will burn, so exercise is no good for weight loss. That seems mental
Sounds like pretty obvious bullshit
This is mainly based on a series of studies by US anthropologist Herman Pontzer in 2015.

Pontzer studied the Hadza tribe in Tanzania, who live a unique hunter-gatherer lifestyle, spending hours each day hiking for miles and carrying heavy equipment to forage for food.

Using specialist equipment, he measured the energy expenditure of 30 of the tribe members and found it to be very similar to the average Briton
However, there are a number of problems with this research, Firstly, there may be many reasons why members of the Hadza tribe use up little energy.
Professor Mike Gleeson, researcher in exercise biochemistry at Loughborough University, says: 'The amount of calories you expend is dependent on your body mass, because it requires more energy to move around a bigger body.

'The Hazda are slim due to genetics and their diet – and the smaller you are the less energy you use.'

Other research – more representative of the UK population – has found the opposite to Pontzer.

Adam Collins, associate professor of nutrition at the University of Surrey. 'Data from the UK military, who have very high levels of activity, shows they do burn far more calories than the average person and, if they don't eat enough to counter that, they lose weight.'

That being said, I believe the old adage that you cant outrun a bad diet. still stands true
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Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:18 am
inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:14 am
Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:45 am I said on another thread I'd been reading Ultra-Processed People by Dr Chris Van Tulleken. It's pretty good and very shocking.

But I got to a bit last night where he claimed that it doesn't matter how much exercise you do our bodies don't burn any more calories. So for a man it's about 2500 calories a day (or similar) and no matter what exercise you do, that's all our bodies will burn, so exercise is no good for weight loss. That seems mental
Does he mean we can't do more than 2,500 calories of work, or that exercise won't increase our base metabolism so we'll always burn the same for a given level of activity, regardless of fitness/muscle mass?
He's saying that our body burns 2500 calories a day whether we sit on our arse or go for a run. If we run we might burn more calories whilst running, but our body then cuts back on the calories it burns for the rest of the day, so there is no gain.
I'd be interested to read it, as it sounds like he might be ring-fencing the conditions a bit. The body will constantly adapt, e.g. to slow metabolism if you've fasted, so I can understand it might slow down after an ad-hoc period of intense exercise, but if the exercise is continual then I can't see how it has that option.
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Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:18 am
inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:14 am
Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:45 am I said on another thread I'd been reading Ultra-Processed People by Dr Chris Van Tulleken. It's pretty good and very shocking.

But I got to a bit last night where he claimed that it doesn't matter how much exercise you do our bodies don't burn any more calories. So for a man it's about 2500 calories a day (or similar) and no matter what exercise you do, that's all our bodies will burn, so exercise is no good for weight loss. That seems mental
Does he mean we can't do more than 2,500 calories of work, or that exercise won't increase our base metabolism so we'll always burn the same for a given level of activity, regardless of fitness/muscle mass?
He's saying that our body burns 2500 calories a day whether we sit on our arse or go for a run. If we run we might burn more calories whilst running, but our body then cuts back on the calories it burns for the rest of the day, so there is no gain.
If that was the case, people going on trans-arctic walks and consuming 10,000 calories a day would come back having put on 40 kg. That's demonstrably not the case.

As a physicist, it seems to me to be in direct contravention of the laws of thermodynamics.
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Whilst we're on subject of physiology:
Ig Nobel prize goes to team who found mammals can breathe through anuses
https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... ugh-anuses
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Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:52 am
Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:18 am
inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:14 am

Does he mean we can't do more than 2,500 calories of work, or that exercise won't increase our base metabolism so we'll always burn the same for a given level of activity, regardless of fitness/muscle mass?
He's saying that our body burns 2500 calories a day whether we sit on our arse or go for a run. If we run we might burn more calories whilst running, but our body then cuts back on the calories it burns for the rest of the day, so there is no gain.
If that was the case, people going on trans-arctic walks and consuming 10,000 calories a day would come back having put on 40 kg. That's demonstrably not the case.

As a physicist, it seems to me to be in direct contravention of the laws of thermodynamics.
Same thing occurred to me !

It's like the contention that bumble bees somehow break these laws; I think it more likely that the issue is our understanding of the the dynamics of flight, or physiology, & not that some Laws that have withstood centuries of scrutiny have suddenly fallen.
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:13 am
Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:52 am
Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:18 am

He's saying that our body burns 2500 calories a day whether we sit on our arse or go for a run. If we run we might burn more calories whilst running, but our body then cuts back on the calories it burns for the rest of the day, so there is no gain.
If that was the case, people going on trans-arctic walks and consuming 10,000 calories a day would come back having put on 40 kg. That's demonstrably not the case.

As a physicist, it seems to me to be in direct contravention of the laws of thermodynamics.
Same thing occurred to me !

It's like the contention that bumble bees somehow break these laws; I think it more likely that the issue is our understanding of the the dynamics of flight, or physiology, & not that some Laws that have withstood centuries of scrutiny have suddenly fallen.
Yeah, the whole 'bumblebees shouldn't be able to fly' thing was around for years until someone discovered how they generate lift on the upbeat of their wing movement as well as the downbeat.
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Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:52 am
Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:18 am
inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:14 am

Does he mean we can't do more than 2,500 calories of work, or that exercise won't increase our base metabolism so we'll always burn the same for a given level of activity, regardless of fitness/muscle mass?
He's saying that our body burns 2500 calories a day whether we sit on our arse or go for a run. If we run we might burn more calories whilst running, but our body then cuts back on the calories it burns for the rest of the day, so there is no gain.
If that was the case, people going on trans-arctic walks and consuming 10,000 calories a day would come back having put on 40 kg. That's demonstrably not the case.

As a physicist, it seems to me to be in direct contravention of the laws of thermodynamics.
Yup, my immediate thought was Olympic rowers who are also consuming a lot of calories.
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Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:18 am
inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:14 am
Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:45 am I said on another thread I'd been reading Ultra-Processed People by Dr Chris Van Tulleken. It's pretty good and very shocking.

But I got to a bit last night where he claimed that it doesn't matter how much exercise you do our bodies don't burn any more calories. So for a man it's about 2500 calories a day (or similar) and no matter what exercise you do, that's all our bodies will burn, so exercise is no good for weight loss. That seems mental
Does he mean we can't do more than 2,500 calories of work, or that exercise won't increase our base metabolism so we'll always burn the same for a given level of activity, regardless of fitness/muscle mass?
He's saying that our body burns 2500 calories a day whether we sit on our arse or go for a run. If we run we might burn more calories whilst running, but our body then cuts back on the calories it burns for the rest of the day, so there is no gain.
Seems like bollocks to me. I know when I was training for and running ultramarathons, I had to consciously eat more cake in order to maintain my weight.
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Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:00 am
Slick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:45 am I said on another thread I'd been reading Ultra-Processed People by Dr Chris Van Tulleken. It's pretty good and very shocking.

But I got to a bit last night where he claimed that it doesn't matter how much exercise you do our bodies don't burn any more calories. So for a man it's about 2500 calories a day (or similar) and no matter what exercise you do, that's all our bodies will burn, so exercise is no good for weight loss. That seems mental
Sounds like pretty obvious bullshit
I'd well believe that a human body can adapt to differing demands and that humans are actually quite efficient at running so lots of running does not necessarily mean whippet like build but if you walk 5k every day, it's pretty unlikely you'll be obese.
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I know it's terrilble paternalistic, & probably misoginistic of me; but do others hope that one dark night, soon, Space Karen is walking down a dark alley, & he bumps into Travis ?


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and then Travis proceeds to hammer Karen into the ground like a fucking fence pole until only his hair remains above the surface.
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