Did you recently suffer a blow to the head, that surgically excised the last ~8 years from your rmemory ?inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:03 pm I'm getting rheumy-eyed thinking back to halycon days of David Cameron.
Has there been anyone semi-competent since his PMership? May was hamstrung by having to deal with the brexit mess, but he's head and shoulders above the others.
Boris, Liz, Rushi.fishfoodie wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:58 pmDid you recently suffer a blow to the head, that surgically excised the last ~8 years from your rmemory ?inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:03 pm I'm getting rheumy-eyed thinking back to halycon days of David Cameron.
Has there been anyone semi-competent since his PMership? May was hamstrung by having to deal with the brexit mess, but he's head and shoulders above the others.
If so, can you let me know where exactly the blow landed, because.I think I can monatize that knowledge !
It's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:08 pmBoris, Liz, Rushi.fishfoodie wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:58 pmDid you recently suffer a blow to the head, that surgically excised the last ~8 years from your rmemory ?inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:03 pm I'm getting rheumy-eyed thinking back to halycon days of David Cameron.
Has there been anyone semi-competent since his PMership? May was hamstrung by having to deal with the brexit mess, but he's head and shoulders above the others.
If so, can you let me know where exactly the blow landed, because.I think I can monatize that knowledge !
They're just not serious people. They're almost cartoon bad. Cameron was merely bad, not cartoonish.
(I'll ignore the pig fucking for now)
George Osbourne was the architect of austerity and he wasn’t evil. Just misguided.sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:46 pm I'd say a lot of the austerity decisions taken under DavCam's leadership were those of a cartoonishly evil villain. The rest of the clowns were more openly egregiously corrupt and caught up in Tory soap opera drama, but that should not paint Call Me Dave in anything resembling a good light.
Being head and shoulder above people who are six feet under a lake of pigshit isn't really a good place to be. There's not really a lot of demonstrable difference between having your head under six feet of pigshit and having it under four feet of pigshit.inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:03 pm I'm getting rheumy-eyed thinking back to halycon days of David Cameron.
Has there been anyone semi-competent since his PMership? May was hamstrung by having to deal with the brexit mess, but he's head and shoulders above the others.
Indeed. It takes something quite special to make Cameron look good by comparison.Biffer wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:14 pmBeing head and shoulder above people who are six feet under a lake of pigshit isn't really a good place to be. There's not really a lot of demonstrable difference between having your head under six feet of pigshit and having it under four feet of pigshit.inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:03 pm I'm getting rheumy-eyed thinking back to halycon days of David Cameron.
Has there been anyone semi-competent since his PMership? May was hamstrung by having to deal with the brexit mess, but he's head and shoulders above the others.
And everyone in that government agreed with his ideas and put them into practice. Osbourne is not solely to blame.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:53 pmGeorge Osbourne was the architect of austerity and he wasn’t evil. Just misguided.sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:46 pm I'd say a lot of the austerity decisions taken under DavCam's leadership were those of a cartoonishly evil villain. The rest of the clowns were more openly egregiously corrupt and caught up in Tory soap opera drama, but that should not paint Call Me Dave in anything resembling a good light.
This! Whoever they select is basically the fag end of the current crop of has beens, nutters and right wing twats who wants their 2-3 years of glory leading the dismantling Tory Party. At some point the tories will split/disolve into two with the racist nut jobs heading off into a pact with Herr Farage and the rest trying to rescue their centre right party from the bampots and restoring some political respectability again. I fully expect a 'new' middle ground Tory leader will emerge before the next election.SaintK wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:59 pmNone of them will be leader of the opposition come the next election.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:46 pmDoes it matter who they pick in this round? Or the next?Slick wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm
Talking of which, I was having dinner with my FiL last night and thats his pick
There'll just be a scandal/fallout within the Party around whoever is leader(s) in the next 2-3 years and they'll have to vote again anyway.
Tory traditionalist Christopher Chope has been put forward for membership of the modernisation select committee, prompting ridicule on social media.
Chope gained notoriety in 2018 for trying to block a proposal to make upskirting a specific criminal offence.
He has also faced criticism for referring to Commons staff as “servants” and telling one female MP to “apply her mind” in a House of Commons row.
The Christchurch MP’s voting record is equally chequered.
Chope has objected to proposed laws to protect girls from female genital mutilation (FGM), plans to host a global women’s conference in the Commons, and to granting a posthumous pardon to Alan Turing over his conviction for “homosexual activity”.
Lot of elderly, wealthy, possibly bigoted Tory voters down on the South Coast.SaintK wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:06 am You couldn't make this up! How the hell did this dinosaur get voted back in?Tory traditionalist Christopher Chope has been put forward for membership of the modernisation select committee, prompting ridicule on social media.
Chope gained notoriety in 2018 for trying to block a proposal to make upskirting a specific criminal offence.
He has also faced criticism for referring to Commons staff as “servants” and telling one female MP to “apply her mind” in a House of Commons row.
The Christchurch MP’s voting record is equally chequered.
Chope has objected to proposed laws to protect girls from female genital mutilation (FGM), plans to host a global women’s conference in the Commons, and to granting a posthumous pardon to Alan Turing over his conviction for “homosexual activity”.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/ ... -abbottFrank Hester gave the Conservatives a further £5m just before the election, according to data from the Electoral Commission, despite the party coming under pressure over his remarks about Diane Abbott that were widely condemned as racist.
The donation, made by his company the Phoenix Partnership, brings his total funding to the Tories to more than £20m, cementing his status as their single biggest donor.
And cokesturginho wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:27 pmIn fairness the Tory party probably do spend it all on hookers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce808nyry3doWinter fuel cut impact was not assessed, says Starmer
I think Labour there is in the same pickle as Labor here. Both back in power with massive liabilities after Tories screwed everything and the cost of living crisis hits themweegie01 wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:09 amhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce808nyry3doWinter fuel cut impact was not assessed, says Starmer
What were they thinking? It is all well and good that one was not required, but surely to goodness they must have realised how contentious this would be, and that it might be advisable to do an impact assessment. There is no reason why someone like myself should get it, but for a lot of others who will lose it there is a difference. I would suggest that had they done so they may have made a few more exceptions that would not have cost much, but would have defused some of the criticism.
Then there are the optics which to me at any rate are not good as they leave labour open to the 'not caring enough about pensioners to establish the impact' spin.
Let me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?fishfoodie wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:04 pmIt's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:08 pmBoris, Liz, Rushi.fishfoodie wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:58 pm
Did you recently suffer a blow to the head, that surgically excised the last ~8 years from your rmemory ?
If so, can you let me know where exactly the blow landed, because.I think I can monatize that knowledge !
They're just not serious people. They're almost cartoon bad. Cameron was merely bad, not cartoonish.
(I'll ignore the pig fucking for now)
It was interesting to see the difference in those two referendums. SNP / Yes side faced constant demands to define the exact details of what would happen after a vote for independence. Leave side faced nowhere near the same level of scrutiny in that regard.Yeeb wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:56 pmLet me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?fishfoodie wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:04 pmIt's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:08 pm
Boris, Liz, Rushi.
They're just not serious people. They're almost cartoon bad. Cameron was merely bad, not cartoonish.
(I'll ignore the pig fucking for now)
Personally I’d say the method of persuading remain by saying anyone voting leave is racist and thick, was more of an act of a conceited moron. Weird how most of the ones busted now for riots and social media bants seem to be first and second generation irishers..
No, a, 'Yes', 'No' Referendum without any further clarification of the steps after any, 'Yes' vote would be just as moronic.Yeeb wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:56 pmLet me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?fishfoodie wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:04 pmIt's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:08 pm
Boris, Liz, Rushi.
They're just not serious people. They're almost cartoon bad. Cameron was merely bad, not cartoonish.
(I'll ignore the pig fucking for now)
Personally I’d say the method of persuading remain by saying anyone voting leave is racist and thick, was more of an act of a conceited moron. Weird how most of the ones busted now for riots and social media bants seem to be first and second generation irishers..
This can’t be a serious post?Biffer wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:11 pmIt was interesting to see the difference in those two referendums. SNP / Yes side faced constant demands to define the exact details of what would happen after a vote for independence. Leave side faced nowhere near the same level of scrutiny in that regard.Yeeb wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:56 pmLet me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?fishfoodie wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:04 pm
It's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !
Personally I’d say the method of persuading remain by saying anyone voting leave is racist and thick, was more of an act of a conceited moron. Weird how most of the ones busted now for riots and social media bants seem to be first and second generation irishers..
Interesting comment from Major today essentially saying they are a bunch of cunts and why are people like her chasing the extreme right wing, which actually took less votes off them than Labour or LD's, and they should be a right of centre party which is what wins elections.Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:13 pm Badenoch has proclaimed her working class credentials because she once had a job in McDonald's as a student.
How fucking stupid is she? I mean really, she seems to engage her mouth without a single thought passing through her head.
D cam thought he had to have the referendum because it was in his manefesto - would have been easier just to kick the can down road and not have the referendum and break a manefesro pledge , like how all parties dofishfoodie wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:14 pmNo, a, 'Yes', 'No' Referendum without any further clarification of the steps after any, 'Yes' vote would be just as moronic.Yeeb wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:56 pmLet me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?fishfoodie wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:04 pm
It's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !
Personally I’d say the method of persuading remain by saying anyone voting leave is racist and thick, was more of an act of a conceited moron. Weird how most of the ones busted now for riots and social media bants seem to be first and second generation irishers..
Let's be clear; Cameron didn't need to call a Referendum to leave the EU, he could have just done it !, or better yet, had it as a policy in his GE manifesto, & then just followed thru on it, but he was too fucking gutless to commit one way or the other.
It is such a complex question that it can't be hammered into the form of a Ref Question, & pretending it can is irresponsible.
No one prior to the Ref said how the UK ended up was the where they should be, so wtf were the voters to understand what the consequences would be ?
Ironically the one MP who is recorded as suggesting a reasonable process was JRM, who said that, perhaps the UK should have a 2nd Ref once the deal to leave was negotiated; but conveniently, once the blank check was written, the Bumblecunt added a few zero's onto the amount because there was no conditions to stop him !
Independence supporter or not your last sentence above is exactly the type of comment that drives Scots to voting for independence. Very colonial!Yeeb wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:00 amD cam thought he had to have the referendum because it was in his manefesto - would have been easier just to kick the can down road and not have the referendum and break a manefesro pledge , like how all parties dofishfoodie wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:14 pmNo, a, 'Yes', 'No' Referendum without any further clarification of the steps after any, 'Yes' vote would be just as moronic.Yeeb wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:56 pm
Let me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?
Personally I’d say the method of persuading remain by saying anyone voting leave is racist and thick, was more of an act of a conceited moron. Weird how most of the ones busted now for riots and social media bants seem to be first and second generation irishers..
Let's be clear; Cameron didn't need to call a Referendum to leave the EU, he could have just done it !, or better yet, had it as a policy in his GE manifesto, & then just followed thru on it, but he was too fucking gutless to commit one way or the other.
It is such a complex question that it can't be hammered into the form of a Ref Question, & pretending it can is irresponsible.
No one prior to the Ref said how the UK ended up was the where they should be, so wtf were the voters to understand what the consequences would be ?
Ironically the one MP who is recorded as suggesting a reasonable process was JRM, who said that, perhaps the UK should have a 2nd Ref once the deal to leave was negotiated; but conveniently, once the blank check was written, the Bumblecunt added a few zero's onto the amount because there was no conditions to stop him !
Eg I can’t see those 2 billion trees got planted
Eu and dcam called the bluff , and lost (or won, depending on viewpoint)
The independence jocks should just be shouted down by saying referendums are bad and you recently had one anyways so shush now, Eu woukdnt even accept you as you don’t meet the criteria on your own .
My language was supposed to be inflammatory - and you should really have written ‘that drives a MINORITY of Scots to voting for independence’dpedin wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:48 amIndependence supporter or not your last sentence above is exactly the type of comment that drives Scots to voting for independence. Very colonial!Yeeb wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:00 amD cam thought he had to have the referendum because it was in his manefesto - would have been easier just to kick the can down road and not have the referendum and break a manefesro pledge , like how all parties dofishfoodie wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:14 pm
No, a, 'Yes', 'No' Referendum without any further clarification of the steps after any, 'Yes' vote would be just as moronic.
Let's be clear; Cameron didn't need to call a Referendum to leave the EU, he could have just done it !, or better yet, had it as a policy in his GE manifesto, & then just followed thru on it, but he was too fucking gutless to commit one way or the other.
It is such a complex question that it can't be hammered into the form of a Ref Question, & pretending it can is irresponsible.
No one prior to the Ref said how the UK ended up was the where they should be, so wtf were the voters to understand what the consequences would be ?
Ironically the one MP who is recorded as suggesting a reasonable process was JRM, who said that, perhaps the UK should have a 2nd Ref once the deal to leave was negotiated; but conveniently, once the blank check was written, the Bumblecunt added a few zero's onto the amount because there was no conditions to stop him !
Eg I can’t see those 2 billion trees got planted
Eu and dcam called the bluff , and lost (or won, depending on viewpoint)
The independence jocks should just be shouted down by saying referendums are bad and you recently had one anyways so shush now, Eu woukdnt even accept you as you don’t meet the criteria on your own .
Sneaky. If you are causing chaos elsewhere+ pandemic you can sneak this poison through.
https://x.com/BenQuinn75/status/1837101 ... itics-liveMiddleton was dropped by Channel 4 in 2021. At the time the channel said its “views and values” did not align with those of the former soldier after on social media he called Black Lives Matters protesters “scum” and told people to ignore safety measures implemented during the Covid-19 pandemic.
Multi-millionaire Rupert Lowe has started his speech at the Reform UK conference with a jibe at the LGBT community, by saying it is welcome to be speaking somewhere where there is “a paucity of rainbow lanyards” on display.
He has also mentioned “Orwellian virture-signalling double-speak”, and there were huge cheers in the room when he criticised the “entire Covid response pandemic” as a scandal and he claimed people had been forced to take an experimental jab.
The biggest cheers went to defunding the BBC and abolishing 20 mph speed limits. There was also cheers for reversing devolution, leaving the ECHR, and repealing the 1997 Human Rights Act and the 2010 Equality Act.
Rupert Lowe has finished his speech by criticising democracy because among other things women will want to be treated like men and foreigners will want to be treated like natives. He said that without Reform UK, British people will lose their way of life to the “subversive forces” against them. Among them he lists the World Economic Forum, the Bilderberg Meeting, the United Nations, and the World Health Organization. This section is laced with antisemitic conspiracy tropes.
But, but, but, "he's a great bloke to have a beer and fag with"!dpedin wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:27 am Farage is a frog faced c**t who is a racist, xenophobic and misogynistic twat with a long history of dabbling in racism and nazism. He will inevitably act as a lightening rod for the lowest of the low scumbags in the same way that Mosley did in his day. Their right wing media mates and dodgy rich funders will continue to make sure Farage and Reform are in the headlines but will snowpake out the stuff that's slightly too extreme for public consumption. Whilst the guys who front Reform are mostly nut jobs, Reform do have some brains behind them funded by the likes of Theil etc and they will get help in making gains, mostly against the Tories, in a very targeted way. It sounds like they have their sights set on northern towns like Blackburn, Doncaster, etc where they feel they can easily pit the white pop against the asian pop and create further trouble. They really are bastards and have no compunction in creating or using existing tensions in local communities for their own aims.
I'd shove the glass down his throat and the fag up his arse if I ever bumped into himtabascoboy wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:29 amBut, but, but, "he's a great bloke to have a beer and fag with"!dpedin wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:27 am Farage is a frog faced c**t who is a racist, xenophobic and misogynistic twat with a long history of dabbling in racism and nazism. He will inevitably act as a lightening rod for the lowest of the low scumbags in the same way that Mosley did in his day. Their right wing media mates and dodgy rich funders will continue to make sure Farage and Reform are in the headlines but will snowpake out the stuff that's slightly too extreme for public consumption. Whilst the guys who front Reform are mostly nut jobs, Reform do have some brains behind them funded by the likes of Theil etc and they will get help in making gains, mostly against the Tories, in a very targeted way. It sounds like they have their sights set on northern towns like Blackburn, Doncaster, etc where they feel they can easily pit the white pop against the asian pop and create further trouble. They really are bastards and have no compunction in creating or using existing tensions in local communities for their own aims.
