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Sards wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:00 pm I would rather watch the sun set over the veld or sea than cars going around in a circle.
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average joe wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:39 pm I would only watch MotoGP if Malherbe was one of the riders.
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Fatty's on bikes are always funny. I once saw a fatty on a Vespa doing about 45 on a main road close by. You could hardly se the scooter, it was like he "swallowed" it. It looked like he grew wheels out of his arsehole and was riding around on his bum.
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average joe wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:49 am
sorCrer wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:36 pm
average joe wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:39 pm I would only watch MotoGP if Malherbe was one of the riders.
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Fatty's on bikes are always funny. I once saw a fatty on a Vespa doing about 45 on a main road close by. You could hardly se the scooter, it was like he "swallowed" it. It looked like he grew wheels out of his arsehole and was riding around on his bum.
fme....I thought someone posted a pic of Nips....
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Sards wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:48 pm
average joe wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:49 am
sorCrer wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:36 pm
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Fatty's on bikes are always funny. I once saw a fatty on a Vespa doing about 45 on a main road close by. You could hardly se the scooter, it was like he "swallowed" it. It looked like he grew wheels out of his arsehole and was riding around on his bum.
fme....I thought someone posted a pic of Nips....
Harsh. Nips doesnt have red hair or a beard.
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sorCrer wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:36 pm
Sards wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:48 pm
average joe wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:49 am

Fatty's on bikes are always funny. I once saw a fatty on a Vespa doing about 45 on a main road close by. You could hardly se the scooter, it was like he "swallowed" it. It looked like he grew wheels out of his arsehole and was riding around on his bum.
fme....I thought someone posted a pic of Nips....
Harsh. Nips doesnt have red hair or a beard.
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I have been hitting the gym and running twice a week for a month now

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Looks like the 2020 Superugby Champions have a few injuries for the game against the Bulls today. With Mapimpi in Japan?

Might help even it up, but I think we can all agree Jake the Snake needs a proper introduction.
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Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:08 am I have been hitting the gym and running twice a week for a month now

Getting the dad bod ready to hit the beach in the summer

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Fuck. We had better get together before you are too slim to braai and have a drink.
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Chilli wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:16 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:08 am I have been hitting the gym and running twice a week for a month now

Getting the dad bod ready to hit the beach in the summer

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Fuck. We had better get together before you are too slim to braai and have a drink.
Hahaha! Ja sure Chilli, we must arrange a braai/dinner soon
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Chilli wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:16 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:08 am I have been hitting the gym and running twice a week for a month now

Getting the dad bod ready to hit the beach in the summer

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Fuck. We had better get together before you are too slim to braai and have a drink.
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Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:08 am I have been hitting the gym and running twice a week for a month now

Getting the dad bod ready to hit the beach in the summer

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

I got right into your head....and noone will think of you any other way now too.....unless you post a pic proving otherwise
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Sards wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:25 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:08 am I have been hitting the gym and running twice a week for a month now

Getting the dad bod ready to hit the beach in the summer

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

I got right into your head....and noone will think of you any other way now too.....unless you post a pic proving otherwise
Hahaha, not really boet, me and my brother in law started exercising together to just be more healthy.
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ja ja ja boet...

At least my joke got you to the gym.....

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Heaven knows you needed it
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Sards wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:11 am ja ja ja boet...

At least my joke got you to the gym.....

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Heaven knows you needed it
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Sure sure buddy
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Shit is getting real in Senekal. It's a very volatile situation and certain politicians seem hell bent on stoking the flames instead of trying to de-escalate.
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average joe wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:55 am Shit is getting real in Senekal. It's a very volatile situation and certain politicians seem hell bent on stoking the flames instead of trying to de-escalate.
A kid was murdered and displayed on a pole. People are angry and rightfully so.
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handyman wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:00 am A kid was murdered and displayed on a pole. People are angry and rightfully so.
That story is shocking. Surely we have reached a tipping point by now?

I can totally see their frustration and helplessness and can't blame them for using EFF style tactics as it seems to be the only way to get attention these days.
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If saner minds don't prevail and attempt to de-escalate this situation stupid Julius is going to start a war here.
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average joe wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:22 am If saner minds don't prevail and attempt to de-escalate this situation stupid Julius is going to start a war here.
I see he's already on the bandwagon calling them cowards. If those two groups meet in the streets it could get very ugly.

Pity there isn't another racist shampoo advert to divert their attention.
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assfly wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:08 am
handyman wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:00 am A kid was murdered and displayed on a pole. People are angry and rightfully so.
That story is shocking. Surely we have reached a tipping point by now?

I can totally see their frustration and helplessness and can't blame them for using EFF style tactics as it seems to be the only way to get attention these days.
You've got it spot on. The EFF and ANC are fuelling the fires by questioning why the farmers resorted to burning of a police vehicle and damage to the courtroom. As if this is the first time such acts are committed in SA.
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assfly wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:28 am
average joe wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:22 am If saner minds don't prevail and attempt to de-escalate this situation stupid Julius is going to start a war here.
I see he's already on the bandwagon calling them cowards. If those two groups meet in the streets it could get very ugly.

Pity there isn't another racist shampoo advert to divert their attention.
Problem is I don't think there's anyone who can go to calm things down. Farmers are gatvol of politicians denying that white farmers are being murdered and down playing the severity of the problem or treating them like second rate citizens and telling they must "passop or they'll get hurt"
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I am very worried about this. It only takes one idiot, from either extreme of the political spectrum, to ignite a volatile situation.

I have already heard comments where people are saying that Senekal happened because of one white death, implying that the one death is more important than all the scores of black people who are murdered. This is obviously not true as the farming community have just had enough, but perceptions are reality.

As a farm owner I get equally pissed off with the internet warriors who change profile pics and get outraged and want to declare war in solidarity with farmers. Where were you at 03h00 this morning when I left my family alone to patrol my and my neighbors’ perimeters?

Rural safety is becoming a vessel for persons who feel victimised by the whole BLM thing etc., based along racial lines. This is going to take the focus away from where the problem lies, being rural security, which will end up further harming farming communities. There is no leadership.

All we need now is for Steve to become the voice of farmers. Lord help us.
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‘tsek wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:38 am I am very worried about this. It only takes one idiot, from either extreme of the political spectrum, to ignite a volatile situation.

I have already heard comments where people are saying that Senekal happened because of one white death, implying that the one death is more important than all the scores of black people who are murdered. This is obviously not true as the farming community have just had enough, but perceptions are reality.

As a farm owner I get equally pissed off with the internet warriors who change profile pics and get outraged and want to declare war in solidarity with farmers. Where were you at 03h00 this morning when I left my family alone to patrol my and my neighbors’ perimeters?

Rural safety is becoming a vessel for persons who feel victimised by the whole BLM thing etc., based along racial lines. This is going to take the focus away from where the problem lies, being rural security, which will end up further harming farming communities. There is no leadership.

All we need now is for Steve to become the voice of farmers. Lord help us.
You used a very important phrase there, "rural safety".
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Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:50 am
‘tsek wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:38 am I am very worried about this. It only takes one idiot, from either extreme of the political spectrum, to ignite a volatile situation.

I have already heard comments where people are saying that Senekal happened because of one white death, implying that the one death is more important than all the scores of black people who are murdered. This is obviously not true as the farming community have just had enough, but perceptions are reality.

As a farm owner I get equally pissed off with the internet warriors who change profile pics and get outraged and want to declare war in solidarity with farmers. Where were you at 03h00 this morning when I left my family alone to patrol my and my neighbors’ perimeters?

Rural safety is becoming a vessel for persons who feel victimised by the whole BLM thing etc., based along racial lines. This is going to take the focus away from where the problem lies, being rural security, which will end up further harming farming communities. There is no leadership.

All we need now is for Steve to become the voice of farmers. Lord help us.
You used a very important phrase there, "rural safety".
Does he mean "urban safety" isn't important too?
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:52 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:50 am
‘tsek wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:38 am I am very worried about this. It only takes one idiot, from either extreme of the political spectrum, to ignite a volatile situation.

I have already heard comments where people are saying that Senekal happened because of one white death, implying that the one death is more important than all the scores of black people who are murdered. This is obviously not true as the farming community have just had enough, but perceptions are reality.

As a farm owner I get equally pissed off with the internet warriors who change profile pics and get outraged and want to declare war in solidarity with farmers. Where were you at 03h00 this morning when I left my family alone to patrol my and my neighbors’ perimeters?

Rural safety is becoming a vessel for persons who feel victimised by the whole BLM thing etc., based along racial lines. This is going to take the focus away from where the problem lies, being rural security, which will end up further harming farming communities. There is no leadership.

All we need now is for Steve to become the voice of farmers. Lord help us.
You used a very important phrase there, "rural safety".
Does he mean "urban safety" isn't important too?
Of course not.

Rural Safety is just so very difficult because of the vastness of our country, the remoteness of the farms and the brutalilty of the attacks.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:52 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:50 am
‘tsek wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:38 am I am very worried about this. It only takes one idiot, from either extreme of the political spectrum, to ignite a volatile situation.

I have already heard comments where people are saying that Senekal happened because of one white death, implying that the one death is more important than all the scores of black people who are murdered. This is obviously not true as the farming community have just had enough, but perceptions are reality.

As a farm owner I get equally pissed off with the internet warriors who change profile pics and get outraged and want to declare war in solidarity with farmers. Where were you at 03h00 this morning when I left my family alone to patrol my and my neighbors’ perimeters?

Rural safety is becoming a vessel for persons who feel victimised by the whole BLM thing etc., based along racial lines. This is going to take the focus away from where the problem lies, being rural security, which will end up further harming farming communities. There is no leadership.

All we need now is for Steve to become the voice of farmers. Lord help us.
You used a very important phrase there, "rural safety".
Does he mean "urban safety" isn't important too?
Context brother, context. Farm attacks, hence rural.

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Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:59 am
Of course not.

Rural Safety is just so very difficult because of the vastness of our country, the remoteness of the farms and the brutalilty of the attacks.
Exactly. Part of the problem with the current government is that they don't distinguish between the two either.
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Spot on, the powers that be don’t grasp the concept, e.g. municipalities are now wall to wall, meaning I pay municipal rates and taxes despite not receiving any services, this is an example of the same principle.
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assfly wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:02 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:59 am
Of course not.

Rural Safety is just so very difficult because of the vastness of our country, the remoteness of the farms and the brutalilty of the attacks.
Exactly. Part of the problem with the current government is that they don't distinguish between the two either.
The ANC know exactly what the problem is with farm murders and they understand it.

However the underlying issue is about LAND. So there is no way they are going to take the side of the White farmer. They'd lose 5+ million votes overnight and the EFF will pick up all those voters on the back of it.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:31 am However the underlying issue is about LAND. So there is no way they are going to take the side of the White farmer. They'd lose 5+ million votes overnight and the EFF will pick up all those voters on the back of it.
I agree with all of that, except that this is about land. That is a narrative that has been constructed and is not he reality on the ground. Having land does not equal having a job, or having money, or having food.
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assfly wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:42 am
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:31 am However the underlying issue is about LAND. So there is no way they are going to take the side of the White farmer. They'd lose 5+ million votes overnight and the EFF will pick up all those voters on the back of it.
I agree with all of that, except that this is about land. That is a narrative that has been constructed and is not he reality on the ground. Having land does not equal having a job, or having money, or having food.
I agree. These are criminal acts. . Savage and brutal criminal acts. The farmers are easy targets. They tend to have cash & firearms and because of their remoteness there is no response when they are attacked.
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Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:59 am
assfly wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:42 am
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:31 am However the underlying issue is about LAND. So there is no way they are going to take the side of the White farmer. They'd lose 5+ million votes overnight and the EFF will pick up all those voters on the back of it.
I agree with all of that, except that this is about land. That is a narrative that has been constructed and is not he reality on the ground. Having land does not equal having a job, or having money, or having food.
I agree. These are criminal acts. . Savage and brutal criminal acts. The farmers are easy targets. They tend to have cash & firearms and because of their remoteness there is no response when they are attacked.
You're both right, but if you (or 'Tsek) is hoping for a political intervention from the government - even just admitting these are criminal acts - you better find a comfy place to wait.
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I don't know any farmers that keep cash anymore. We purposefully don't sell off our land anymore. Any farmer that does is stupid and looking for kak. Everything is done electronically like any other business. Even the farmers with workers around me uses e-wallet to pay their people.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:48 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:59 am
assfly wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:42 am

I agree with all of that, except that this is about land. That is a narrative that has been constructed and is not he reality on the ground. Having land does not equal having a job, or having money, or having food.
I agree. These are criminal acts. . Savage and brutal criminal acts. The farmers are easy targets. They tend to have cash & firearms and because of their remoteness there is no response when they are attacked.
You're both right, but if you (or 'Tsek) is hoping for a political intervention from the government - even just admitting these are criminal acts - you better find a comfy place to wait.
We all know that this is not going to happen.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:48 am You're both right, but if you (or 'Tsek) is hoping for a political intervention from the government - even just admitting these are criminal acts - you better find a comfy place to wait.
Of couse not. That's the tragic thing about this situation - it's a zero sum game where nobody wins.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:48 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:59 am
assfly wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:42 am

I agree with all of that, except that this is about land. That is a narrative that has been constructed and is not he reality on the ground. Having land does not equal having a job, or having money, or having food.
I agree. These are criminal acts. . Savage and brutal criminal acts. The farmers are easy targets. They tend to have cash & firearms and because of their remoteness there is no response when they are attacked.
You're both right, but if you (or 'Tsek) is hoping for a political intervention from the government - even just admitting these are criminal acts - you better find a comfy place to wait.
Definitely not waiting for political intervention, we have learnt to help ourselves in my community. What I fear is some ignorant cnut doing something that forces a political intervention.
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Whether you're hoping or waiting for political intervention or not it's coming ether way. This whole thing is balancing on a knifes edge.
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average joe wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:32 pm Whether you're hoping or waiting for political intervention or not it's coming ether way. This whole thing is balancing on a knifes edge.
It is quite scary.
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‘tsek wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:38 am I am very worried about this. It only takes one idiot, from either extreme of the political spectrum, to ignite a volatile situation.

I have already heard comments where people are saying that Senekal happened because of one white death, implying that the one death is more important than all the scores of black people who are murdered. This is obviously not true as the farming community have just had enough, but perceptions are reality.

As a farm owner I get equally pissed off with the internet warriors who change profile pics and get outraged and want to declare war in solidarity with farmers. Where were you at 03h00 this morning when I left my family alone to patrol my and my neighbors’ perimeters?

Rural safety is becoming a vessel for persons who feel victimised by the whole BLM thing etc., based along racial lines. This is going to take the focus away from where the problem lies, being rural security, which will end up further harming farming communities. There is no leadership.

All we need now is for Steve to become the voice of farmers. Lord help us.
Good post
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