Ireland v Fiji

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Really tough watch. Fiji are all over the place, clearly feel aggrieved with some justification but their discipline has still been wank, before we even consider their total absence of defensive shape.

Totally stop start, all 50/50s going one way and an astonishing non red. At least we’ve got two close games to follow this…
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C69 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:08 pm Ireland not penalised for stepping across and wheeling the scrum.
Fiji will be miffed. Ireland are so dominant they don't need these favours.
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Bit tiresome guys. Every single Ireland game you're bitching about the ref.
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Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:23 pm Bit tiresome guys. Every single Ireland game you're bitching about the ref.
:lol: :lol: :roll:
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Bealham hinging so much he should be called ajar.

Pmsl Fiji penalised
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Nice hands for that try
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Fiji stopped there when the ref was down and she created space.
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C69 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:32 pm Fiji stopped there when the ref was down
How could that be given when she interfered with play
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Prendergast isn't the finished article but he's showing some nice touches
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SaintK wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:33 pm
C69 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:32 pm Fiji stopped there when the ref was down
How could that be given when she interfered with play
Fiji will lose their discipline even more now.
Frawley er al will be targeted even more.
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SaintK wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:33 pm
C69 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:32 pm Fiji stopped there when the ref was down
How could that be given when she interfered with play


I don't think she did, the ball was miles away by the time she got battered
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Fiji are such a frustrating side - seemingly limitless individual talent but the little technical things like clean set pieces and ruck and maul technique elude them. Oh and the discipline - it feels like stereotyping to say that because it's been the case forever
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:42 pm Fiji are such a frustrating side - seemingly limitless individual talent but the little technical things like clean set pieces and ruck and maul technique elude them. Oh and the discipline - it feels like stereotyping to say that because it's been the case forever
They're scattered around the globe more than most, so it's hard to get 23 players on the same page on the technical stuff, & I think the discipline stuff is similar; if you've faith in the system, & you know someone is backing you up, it's easier to not give the dumb penalties
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:42 pm Fiji are such a frustrating side - seemingly limitless individual talent but the little technical things like clean set pieces and ruck and maul technique elude them. Oh and the discipline - it feels like stereotyping to say that because it's been the case forever
That try when having already shipped 40 basically proves your point
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That was classic Fiji; great Try
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:42 pm Fiji are such a frustrating side - seemingly limitless individual talent but the little technical things like clean set pieces and ruck and maul technique elude them. Oh and the discipline - it feels like stereotyping to say that because it's been the case forever
Discipline just like that
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:34 pm Prendergast isn't the finished article but he's showing some nice touches
Picks a nice pass and has a very smooth action to go with it. Think it's all a little slow at this stage though, would be interested to see how he reacts to a much more aggressive defence
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what a shitty cheap shot; should cop a long ban for that bullshit
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Could anyone give a quick summary of the the:

That’s very red
That’s not a red
That’s a cheap shot etc
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Slick wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:11 pm Could anyone give a quick summary of the the:

That’s very red
That’s not a red
That’s a cheap shot etc

Fiji player got a shoulder uppercut from Prendergast - the Irish stand off turned his back as he went in for the tackle and hit the player on the jaw

the cheap shot was a Fiji winger putting the shoulder on the Irish hooker as he went over to score - completely unnecessary
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:15 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:11 pm Could anyone give a quick summary of the the:

That’s very red
That’s not a red
That’s a cheap shot etc

Fiji player got a shoulder uppercut from Prendergast - the Irish stand off turned his back as he went in for the tackle and hit the player on the jaw

the cheap shot was a Fiji winger putting the shoulder on the Irish hooker as he went over to score - completely unnecessary
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Slick wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:19 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:15 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:11 pm Could anyone give a quick summary of the the:

That’s very red
That’s not a red
That’s a cheap shot etc

Fiji player got a shoulder uppercut from Prendergast - the Irish stand off turned his back as he went in for the tackle and hit the player on the jaw

the cheap shot was a Fiji winger putting the shoulder on the Irish hooker as he went over to score - completely unnecessary
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Slick wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:19 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:15 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:11 pm Could anyone give a quick summary of the the:

That’s very red
That’s not a red
That’s a cheap shot etc

Fiji player got a shoulder uppercut from Prendergast - the Irish stand off turned his back as he went in for the tackle and hit the player on the jaw

the cheap shot was a Fiji winger putting the shoulder on the Irish hooker as he went over to score - completely unnecessary
Thank you
Video here


It's a cheap shot and with the head contact, he couldn't have had any complaints if it was upgraded.
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Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:33 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:19 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:15 pm


Fiji player got a shoulder uppercut from Prendergast - the Irish stand off turned his back as he went in for the tackle and hit the player on the jaw

the cheap shot was a Fiji winger putting the shoulder on the Irish hooker as he went over to score - completely unnecessary
Thank you
Video here


It's a cheap shot and with the head contact, he couldn't have had any complaints if it was upgraded.
Wholeheartedly agree - however the new buzz phrase de jour is "level of danger" and so I can see why it wasn't upgraded, but no complaints at all if it had been.

I do think it was more clumsy than dirty mind you, but that shouldn't have any bearing, and to be honest, the "level of danger" shouldn't really have any bearing either.
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Staring at him the entire time while he turns and lifts the shoulder into the jaw - you can rarely determine intent but Jesus that looks like an obvious cheap shot to me
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JM2K6 wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:46 pm Staring at him the entire time while he turns and lifts the shoulder into the jaw - you can rarely determine intent but Jesus that looks like an obvious cheap shot to me
I think he meant to body check him, but I also think the clocking his jaw bit was the clumsy part. Trying to make an impact on a much bigger man and making a complete balls of it! Maybe a meaningless distinction, I guess I'd just be surprised if Prendy turns out to be a cheap shot merchant!
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PornDog wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:02 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:46 pm Staring at him the entire time while he turns and lifts the shoulder into the jaw - you can rarely determine intent but Jesus that looks like an obvious cheap shot to me
I think he meant to body check him, but I also think the clocking his jaw bit was the clumsy part. Trying to make an impact on a much bigger man and making a complete balls of it! Maybe a meaningless distinction, I guess I'd just be surprised if Prendy turns out to be a cheap shot merchant!
Body checking a player (ie tackling without wrapping your arms) was outlawed about 15 years ago.
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Sandstorm wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 6:23 pm
PornDog wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:02 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:46 pm Staring at him the entire time while he turns and lifts the shoulder into the jaw - you can rarely determine intent but Jesus that looks like an obvious cheap shot to me
I think he meant to body check him, but I also think the clocking his jaw bit was the clumsy part. Trying to make an impact on a much bigger man and making a complete balls of it! Maybe a meaningless distinction, I guess I'd just be surprised if Prendy turns out to be a cheap shot merchant!
Body checking a player (ie tackling without wrapping your arms) was outlawed about 15 years ago.
I think you've misunderstood me!

I'm not arguing that it wasn't a penalty, or a YC, or even that it shouldn't have been a red! I'm just saying I reckon it was more clumsy shit-housery than a deliberate act of head-hunting thuggery!
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Agreed, it was stupid but not malicious.
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Given that all the chat has been about how physically slight he is and the Fijians would target him. i would imagine he was attempting to demonstrate his “balls” didn’t quite work out and I thought he was very lucky to avoid a red.
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