I assume I am with many on here who have had a few drinks over the years. The last few years I have decreased my booze intake dramatically and was sitting within UK drinking guidelines - really just sharing a bottle of wine with the wife for Sunday dinner.
However annual health check sent out some signals and went to see the GP. Been on the waiting list of a live scan for 5 months now and really have no idea when it will happen.
Some facts and figures ...
July 24
AST 41, ALT 54, Platelets 135, age 61 so gives a Fib 4 score of 2.52 ... Gamma GC was 150. I had been 162 the previous month at my annual health check.
Was told to stop all booze which I did apart from a glass of wine each night on safari last month. Also came off one of my hypertension pills and blood pressure still good. Also told to stop taking statins for cholesterol and level is 4.2
Bloods today AST 36, ALT 41, Platelets 147, age 62 so gives a Fib score of 2.37. For some reason looks as if Gamma GC was not tested. Grr.
So things have gone down a little. I will not get a GP appointment for ... well who knows but some time mid January 25. Question is what do I do?
#1 Do I continue to stop drinking and hope the scores continue to top?
#2 Do I have a little over festive period? Kids home for Christmas so a glass of bucks fizz, glass of wine with turkey, small glass of port with cheese and a whisky with my son later on. Then off the booze again.
#3 Do I have just a little more than #2 spread out of the festive period
#4 Do I just go bonkers
I would gather most of you will say #4 - and I appreciate that !!
I am think of #3 but really not too much.
I caught Hep A while in Egypt 30 years ago after a really bad case of Pharaohs Revenge so my Liver Test scores have been high since then. Got gout too.
So looking for some advice from anybody that knows anything about this. I may or may not raise a glass to you.
Liver issues
High liver scores, gout and taking other medication for blood pressure? I'd say you'd be best to knock ALL alcohol on the head for good. Starting now.
Booze is not for you any longer.
Sorry.
But you should have more spending money at the end of each month.
Booze is not for you any longer.
Sorry.
But you should have more spending money at the end of each month.
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Don't know anything about this but I'd go with 2 minus the port, just a dash of whiskey and find some non alcoholic bubbles, just to feel part of festivities. Have a glass of something to bring in the new year, but otherwise abstain until your appointment. You don't need alcohol, and you must be feeling better for reigning it in a bit.vball wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:30 pm I assume I am with many on here who have had a few drinks over the years. The last few years I have decreased my booze intake dramatically and was sitting within UK drinking guidelines - really just sharing a bottle of wine with the wife for Sunday dinner.
However annual health check sent out some signals and went to see the GP. Been on the waiting list of a live scan for 5 months now and really have no idea when it will happen.
Some facts and figures ...
July 24
AST 41, ALT 54, Platelets 135, age 61 so gives a Fib 4 score of 2.52 ... Gamma GC was 150. I had been 162 the previous month at my annual health check.
Was told to stop all booze which I did apart from a glass of wine each night on safari last month. Also came off one of my hypertension pills and blood pressure still good. Also told to stop taking statins for cholesterol and level is 4.2
Bloods today AST 36, ALT 41, Platelets 147, age 62 so gives a Fib score of 2.37. For some reason looks as if Gamma GC was not tested. Grr.
So things have gone down a little. I will not get a GP appointment for ... well who knows but some time mid January 25. Question is what do I do?
#1 Do I continue to stop drinking and hope the scores continue to top?
#2 Do I have a little over festive period? Kids home for Christmas so a glass of bucks fizz, glass of wine with turkey, small glass of port with cheese and a whisky with my son later on. Then off the booze again.
#3 Do I have just a little more than #2 spread out of the festive period
#4 Do I just go bonkers
I would gather most of you will say #4 - and I appreciate that !!
I am think of #3 but really not too much.
I caught Hep A while in Egypt 30 years ago after a really bad case of Pharaohs Revenge so my Liver Test scores have been high since then. Got gout too.
So looking for some advice from anybody that knows anything about this. I may or may not raise a glass to you.
In answer to previous question I have not felt any difference in mood, weight, etc
OK no hangovers but very rarely drank any more than a couple of glasses per day in last 5 years anyway.
OK no hangovers but very rarely drank any more than a couple of glasses per day in last 5 years anyway.
Romans said ....Illegitimi non carborundum --- Today we say .. WTF
I was lucky then.
Anything more that a glass of wine, and I feel some negative effects. I do have a drink now and then when socialising, but really suffer from the poisoning effect if I have a lot, which is very rare - Christmas and big parties. Knocked regular drinking sessions on the head in my forties and feel much better for it - sleep much better, general alertness and energy.
I believe daily drinking is just as bad if not worse that the odd binge, you really don't need to do it, and if you have problems you should really change what are just habits.
Anything more that a glass of wine, and I feel some negative effects. I do have a drink now and then when socialising, but really suffer from the poisoning effect if I have a lot, which is very rare - Christmas and big parties. Knocked regular drinking sessions on the head in my forties and feel much better for it - sleep much better, general alertness and energy.
I believe daily drinking is just as bad if not worse that the odd binge, you really don't need to do it, and if you have problems you should really change what are just habits.
I’m 2 weeks off a year without the booze. Didn’t notice much of a difference for 3/4 months, then every couple of months it felt like another layer was peeling away in terms of physical and mental health. Still feel as if I have another layer or 2 to go, but even though the original target was a year I can’t see myself going back to it any time soon, literally everything is better.vball wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:13 pm In answer to previous question I have not felt any difference in mood, weight, etc
OK no hangovers but very rarely drank any more than a couple of glasses per day in last 5 years anyway.
Don’t mean that to sound preachy and I was a much bigger drinker than you seem to be, but just a wee bit of context
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Couple of days do the trick?Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:39 pm The liver is an astonishing organ and some recovery time will likely have a remarkable effect
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My father wasn't an alcoholic, at least not in the traditional sense of drinking heavily every day. But I still had to watch him go through two liver transplants and die a few years later.
Just stop drinking. It's really not worth it, if there is indication of damage. Yes it can regenerate itself, but I can promise you that if your liver is not in a good state then just stop drinking completely. For yourself and your family.
Just stop drinking. It's really not worth it, if there is indication of damage. Yes it can regenerate itself, but I can promise you that if your liver is not in a good state then just stop drinking completely. For yourself and your family.
I just recently finished a 6 week stint without alcohol, drinking moderately now until Hogmanay then will go on a 3 month alcohol free diet and exercise kick. I did it last year - no alcohol, some form of exercise every day, no bread/pasta/rice/potatoes and sticking c1800 calories a day - and lost over 2 stone. I felt miles better, resting heart rate fell by 15% and I slept a lot better. I actually enjoyed the experience and I am looking forward to doing it again. I am sure my liver benefited from my abstinence!
Well had a long chat with the doctor.
So blood results have shown an improvement.
Coming off the other drugs has not shown a reduction in what they were meant to do - Blood Pressure and Cholesterol OK.
So to stay off those.
As for the booze, the pervious doctor said to cut it out. What do you suggest?
"Moderation is good. Abstinence is of course better. But need to look at it holistically so stay under govt units per week and no "binges"."
And what are we really talking about here Doc? "Well it is high but not worryingly so. Better that you do not get stressed out about."
It has been 6 months since my referal and looks like it would be another 6 months before I can get a liver scan (just phoned hospital). Should I go private?
"Only if you wish to. You are down for a routine scan. But totally up to you."
So a small glass of fizz, wine with turkey and dram with my lad on Christmas.
Thanks for all your input. Booze has not been a big thing for a number of year, just something that I like to do on special occasions. I have no desire or need to drink each day or week. So not total avoidance, just a little nw and again.
So blood results have shown an improvement.
Coming off the other drugs has not shown a reduction in what they were meant to do - Blood Pressure and Cholesterol OK.
So to stay off those.
As for the booze, the pervious doctor said to cut it out. What do you suggest?
"Moderation is good. Abstinence is of course better. But need to look at it holistically so stay under govt units per week and no "binges"."
And what are we really talking about here Doc? "Well it is high but not worryingly so. Better that you do not get stressed out about."
It has been 6 months since my referal and looks like it would be another 6 months before I can get a liver scan (just phoned hospital). Should I go private?
"Only if you wish to. You are down for a routine scan. But totally up to you."
So a small glass of fizz, wine with turkey and dram with my lad on Christmas.
Thanks for all your input. Booze has not been a big thing for a number of year, just something that I like to do on special occasions. I have no desire or need to drink each day or week. So not total avoidance, just a little nw and again.
Romans said ....Illegitimi non carborundum --- Today we say .. WTF