Elon Musk bought Twitter.
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This is the essential paradox of the modern right wing position. They are ultra "pro business" but their anti immigration outlook is anti business.
Exactly. It's why right wing populism is really a dead end.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:14 pm This is the essential paradox of the modern right wing position. They are ultra "pro business" but their anti immigration outlook is anti business.
It has to some extent stepped into the space vacated by left wing parties who abandoned traditional working class voters and unions in favour of neoliberalism. It's well known that Democrats have sidelined the unions since Clinton, see how Kamala Harris treated the teamsters as after thoughts this past campaign cycle. However, it is ultimately beholden to Big Business so it will advocate for open borders and such.
Look at the Tories, did absolutely nothing, less than nothing to shore up the borders despite having a huge mandate. For all the culture war stuff conservative parties take their orders from the people with the big cheque books. In fact that's why they lean so heavily into the culture war stuff because they won't do anything substantive to provide relief to the average Joe.
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Can you blame her ?Hugo wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 7:04 pmExactly. It's why right wing populism is really a dead end.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:14 pm This is the essential paradox of the modern right wing position. They are ultra "pro business" but their anti immigration outlook is anti business.
It has to some extent stepped into the space vacated by left wing parties who abandoned traditional working class voters and unions in favour of neoliberalism. It's well known that Democrats have sidelined the unions since Clinton, see how Kamala Harris treated the teamsters as after thoughts this past campaign cycle. However, it is ultimately beholden to Big Business so it will advocate for open borders and such.
Look at the Tories, did absolutely nothing, less than nothing to shore up the borders despite having a huge mandate. For all the culture war stuff conservative parties take their orders from the people with the big cheque books. In fact that's why they lean so heavily into the culture war stuff because they won't do anything substantive to provide relief to the average Joe.
The Teamster leadership, like the leaders of the Firemen, & Police are frankly; scumbags !
The Teamsters are also mobbed up; & as a former Prosecutor KH knows all of this !
The Teamster members voted to endorse her campaign, but the Leadership are a bunch of crooks, so they instead decided to ignore what their member wanted.
It was a completely different thing when you talk about the Car manufacturing Unions, & the like, they wholeheartedly support the Dems, & the Dems reciprocate.
Some people have been digging into the H1Bs
Non-IT jobs...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1872 ... 56971.html
Non-IT jobs...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1872 ... 56971.html
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Interesting thread.Niegs wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:12 am Some people have been digging into the H1Bs
Non-IT jobs...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1872 ... 56971.html
One takeaway for me is that $75k is considered a "low wage".

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Not to mention massive debt from any College education; something that most of the H1B candidates won't haveSandstorm wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:06 am Yanks earn a lot and pay low taxes. But their cost of living and rent is fucking high.
And the cost of health insurance....and while their taxes might be low by European standards I'm sure all those local and state taxes add up, at least that's what a Yank I know complained about. He was a high earner living in San Francisco thoughfishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:51 amNot to mention massive debt from any College education; something that most of the H1B candidates won't haveSandstorm wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:06 am Yanks earn a lot and pay low taxes. But their cost of living and rent is fucking high.
One thing I will say about Musk (and I don't know if it's a good or a bad thing) but he is at least visible and open about what he does and what he advocates for.
I'm not a fan but most billionaires like him operate in the shadows and get others to do their dirty work behind the scenes. Him and Vivek have showed their hand, they are billionaires looking out for their business interests, anyone who thinks otherwise after their meltdowns on Twitter the past week is not paying attention.
He's not a free speech absolutist nor is he concerned about "saving countries", he's in it for himself.
I'm not a fan but most billionaires like him operate in the shadows and get others to do their dirty work behind the scenes. Him and Vivek have showed their hand, they are billionaires looking out for their business interests, anyone who thinks otherwise after their meltdowns on Twitter the past week is not paying attention.
He's not a free speech absolutist nor is he concerned about "saving countries", he's in it for himself.
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Seems obvious to us but try telling it to his fanbois.Hugo wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:38 pm One thing I will say about Musk (and I don't know if it's a good or a bad thing) but he is at least visible and open about what he does and what he advocates for.
I'm not a fan but most billionaires like him operate in the shadows and get others to do their dirty work behind the scenes. Him and Vivek have showed their hand, they are billionaires looking out for their business interests, anyone who thinks otherwise after their meltdowns on Twitter the past week is not paying attention.
He's not a free speech absolutist nor is he concerned about "saving countries", he's in it for himself.
He's repeatedly positioned himself as a free speech absolutist and has just written a column for a German newspaper saying that only AfD can save Germany, so I'm really not sure where you get that ideaHugo wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:38 pm One thing I will say about Musk (and I don't know if it's a good or a bad thing) but he is at least visible and open about what he does and what he advocates for.
I'm not a fan but most billionaires like him operate in the shadows and get others to do their dirty work behind the scenes. Him and Vivek have showed their hand, they are billionaires looking out for their business interests, anyone who thinks otherwise after their meltdowns on Twitter the past week is not paying attention.
He's not a free speech absolutist nor is he concerned about "saving countries", he's in it for himself.
Accounts that were opposing Musk's position on the visa issue lost their blue check mark and/or were flagged up.
He then said he changed the algorithm. As it is my twitter feed is inundated with accounts I don't follow and have no interest in following but I never had that problem before he purchased it. I actually had Musk blocked until about a week ago because I was sick of his dribble clogging up my feed. Everytime he has a thought I don't need to be subjected to it.
He then said he changed the algorithm. As it is my twitter feed is inundated with accounts I don't follow and have no interest in following but I never had that problem before he purchased it. I actually had Musk blocked until about a week ago because I was sick of his dribble clogging up my feed. Everytime he has a thought I don't need to be subjected to it.
Edit: Calculon covered health insurance. A friend there works in IT, out of a job at the moment incidentally, and is looking for 100k+ so she can cover the drugs she needs to treat a medical condition (that I assume would be free or a small out of pocket charge a month for the rest of us).
Muting him works wonders.Hugo wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:48 pm Accounts that were opposing Musk's position on the visa issue lost their blue check mark and/or were flagged up.
He then said he changed the algorithm. As it is my twitter feed is inundated with accounts I don't follow and have no interest in following but I never had that problem before he purchased it. I actually had Musk blocked until about a week ago because I was sick of his dribble clogging up my feed. Everytime he has a thought I don't need to be subjected to it.
He's always had incredibly thin skin, that is his own consistent trait.
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He's one gigantic ball of insecurities; constantly seeking the approval of others, to make up for having a cunt of a Father. He needs to steal the achievements of others as his own, PayPal, Tesla; neither were his work in any meaningful way, but he demands people give him credit for them.JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 7:55 pmMuting him works wonders.Hugo wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:48 pm Accounts that were opposing Musk's position on the visa issue lost their blue check mark and/or were flagged up.
He then said he changed the algorithm. As it is my twitter feed is inundated with accounts I don't follow and have no interest in following but I never had that problem before he purchased it. I actually had Musk blocked until about a week ago because I was sick of his dribble clogging up my feed. Everytime he has a thought I don't need to be subjected to it.
He's always had incredibly thin skin, that is his own consistent trait.
Even his rage against trans rights comes down to him being scared shitless that somehow his childs choice is something that can be held against him; when instead what really shows what a worthless shit he is as a parent is how many of his ex's & children want nothing to do with him.
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If this was as seems possible a car bomb / IED then choice of a cybertruck could be very deliberate
https://bsky.app/profile/bnonews.com/post/3lepd62jvhk2f
https://bsky.app/profile/bnonews.com/post/3lepd62jvhk2f
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Are we sure it wasn't just the battery?tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:45 pm If this was as seems possible a car bomb / IED then choice of a cybertruck could be very deliberate
https://bsky.app/profile/bnonews.com/post/3lepd62jvhk2f
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Looks suspicious on the external cctv
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Once dead. Seven wounded.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... dApp_Other
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... dApp_Other
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Yeah, it sure as hell is suspicious, but then again, Sissy SpaceX made no comment a few weeks ago when a number of High School teens in the Bay were BBQ'd when they crashed their Tesla death trap, & the Battery burned them to a crisp
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Was that not 2018?fishfoodie wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:48 pmYeah, it sure as hell is suspicious, but then again, Sissy SpaceX made no comment a few weeks ago when a number of High School teens in the Bay were BBQ'd when they crashed their Tesla death trap, & the Battery burned them to a crisp
Ceterum censeo delendam esse Muscovia
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Well the Cybertruck was rented in Colorado, where the victim/perp also lived, and it was loaded with fireworks and fuel according to police reports.
The driver of a Tesla Cybertruck that exploded in Las Vegas late Wednesday has been identified as 37-year-old Matthew Livelsberger from Colorado Springs, local media reported.
Livelsberger had several Colorado Springs addresses associated with him, according to News5.
It said the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is at a townhouse complex, which is located on the east side of Colorado Springs in the Stetson Hills neighborhood.
One person has been confirmed dead after a Tesla Cybertruck exploded outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada, police confirmed Wednesday.
The deceased individual was inside the vehicle at the time of the explosion, but the person's identity, including whether they were male or female, was not immediately clear, Clark County Sheriff Kevin McMahill said during a press conference.
Seven bystanders were injured in the blast.
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Nope, start of December, the mobile urinal is only out a year or so.Hellraiser wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 1:24 amWas that not 2018?fishfoodie wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:48 pmYeah, it sure as hell is suspicious, but then again, Sissy SpaceX made no comment a few weeks ago when a number of High School teens in the Bay were BBQ'd when they crashed their Tesla death trap, & the Battery burned them to a crisp
https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/ne ... uck-crash/
Yep and expect a lot, lot more of this. Unfortunately there are enough who will believe this. The summer riots which Farage promoted was just a wee test run to be honest, worse is to come.
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It's coming from his sincere dislike of Keir Starmer. That's the only reason he's bothering with Nigel Farage. Doesn't even have business interests in the UK to exploit.
He's a very petty individual.
Narcissism 101I like neeps wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 1:20 pmIt's coming from his sincere dislike of Keir Starmer. That's the only reason he's bothering with Nigel Farage. Doesn't even have business interests in the UK to exploit.
He's a very petty individual.
So why is he backing AfD in Germany?I like neeps wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 1:20 pmIt's coming from his sincere dislike of Keir Starmer. That's the only reason he's bothering with Nigel Farage. Doesn't even have business interests in the UK to exploit.
He's a very petty individual.
Sincere is not a word I'd use about Musk in any context.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Don't follow him or pay enough attention to him to know. I did see his perceived snub by Starmer and then relentless negative tweets about him.Biffer wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:28 pmSo why is he backing AfD in Germany?I like neeps wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 1:20 pmIt's coming from his sincere dislike of Keir Starmer. That's the only reason he's bothering with Nigel Farage. Doesn't even have business interests in the UK to exploit.
He's a very petty individual.
Sincere is not a word I'd use about Musk in any context.
To credit Farage with anything Musk does is giving him too much credit. And I think this support of AfD shows it further that it's more likely Musk is just a far right chancer as the rest of the rich are.
Bill Ackman is piling on too. The faux sincerity is actually disgusting because the likes of him and Elon are not making any substantive or constructive points it's just troll level stuff. You can't convince me that venture capitalists give a single flying fuck about working class people half the world away.
That said, heads should roll all the way to the very top. The Labour party fed working class people to wolves.
That said, heads should roll all the way to the very top. The Labour party fed working class people to wolves.
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37 year old active duty special ops soldier with gunshot wound to head is the dead guy.
8 month old daughter.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86wnx174q8o
8 month old daughter.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86wnx174q8o
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With the news that the driver had a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head, there are some pretty far out theories flying around on Twitter to add to the usual conspiracy loon stuff. A team from Tesla will attempt to recover in-cabin video footage from the Cybertruck, so maybe we can learn some more about thisUncle fester wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:34 pm 37 year old active duty special ops soldier with gunshot wound to head is the dead guy.
8 month old daughter.![]()
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86wnx174q8o
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Tesla just announced their first ever decline in annual vehicle deliveries !
They've already fulfilled all the orders for the mobile Urinal, & production has been mostly shutdown, & massive discounting has started, & they've no new models planned to perk up sales, & an absentee CEO, so maybe the Market is going to finally call this fraud for what it is ?
Seeing as almost all his theoretical worth is tied up in Tesla stock, he might not be the richest man for much longer
They've already fulfilled all the orders for the mobile Urinal, & production has been mostly shutdown, & massive discounting has started, & they've no new models planned to perk up sales, & an absentee CEO, so maybe the Market is going to finally call this fraud for what it is ?
Seeing as almost all his theoretical worth is tied up in Tesla stock, he might not be the richest man for much longer
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Tesla stock price and Tesla's performance have been detached from the beginning...fishfoodie wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:54 pm Tesla just announced their first ever decline in annual vehicle deliveries !
They've already fulfilled all the orders for the mobile Urinal, & production has been mostly shutdown, & massive discounting has started, & they've no new models planned to perk up sales, & an absentee CEO, so maybe the Market is going to finally call this fraud for what it is ?
Seeing as almost all his theoretical worth is tied up in Tesla stock, he might not be the richest man for much longer
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It might also conceivably be because their best selling car, the Model Y, is about to launch mk II (Juniper) for delivery this quarter, so buyers are holding off in the usual fashion, whilst MK I is discounted.
Plus the problems all auto manufacturers have in the current climate, and the much, much, much wider pool of competitors. I've been around EVs long enough to remember when the only real options were a Renault Zoe (possibly with battery lease), a Nissan LEAF or a Tesla Model S, with a couple of other half-arsed efforts cramming a battery into an existing ICE platform like the VW e-Golf and Mercedes Benz B Class 250e.
I think calling Tesla a fraud is a bit OTT. Overpriced as a stock, yes, but it's not a house of cards.
Plus the problems all auto manufacturers have in the current climate, and the much, much, much wider pool of competitors. I've been around EVs long enough to remember when the only real options were a Renault Zoe (possibly with battery lease), a Nissan LEAF or a Tesla Model S, with a couple of other half-arsed efforts cramming a battery into an existing ICE platform like the VW e-Golf and Mercedes Benz B Class 250e.
I think calling Tesla a fraud is a bit OTT. Overpriced as a stock, yes, but it's not a house of cards.