Were you always Edinburgh based? I'm pretty sure my uncle was involved but he was Glasgow and surrounding areas through his career.Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:08 pmThe first episode was very good but going forward I have a lot of concerns about its objectivity as it is completely based on Jim Swire's book. I have a number of friends, world class detectives, who devoted a large part of their careers to that enquiry and I think their work is going to get rubbished and they will be badly judged by people whose sole knowledge of events will be based on a TV drama.Bullet wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:58 pm Just watched first episode of new Sky series about Lockerbie crash. Really good and still a bit dusty in here
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But he did have a reputation for being a brawler and foul on the booze!Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:24 pmI get the Commando comic thing but when you are using real historic characters and totally abusing their reputation the way they're abusing Mayne's, it's sad. By all accounts, and I've read most of them, and despite some obvious flaws, the complete opposite of the I'll disciplined, drunken, foul mouthed, thieving lunatic they are making him out to be.Jock42 wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:04 am I'm desperate for someone to do a BoB type production of a British SWW unit (preferably a Jock one) and get the ire directed at this but I love it. It's a live action Commando comic. It's also cost me a few quid as I've bought a couple of books to do my own research regarding the "history" and events depicted.
Yes, he did, but rarely possibly never on active duty.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:25 pmBut he did have a reputation for being a brawler and foul on the booze!Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:24 pmI get the Commando comic thing but when you are using real historic characters and totally abusing their reputation the way they're abusing Mayne's, it's sad. By all accounts, and I've read most of them, and despite some obvious flaws, the complete opposite of the I'll disciplined, drunken, foul mouthed, thieving lunatic they are making him out to be.Jock42 wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:04 am I'm desperate for someone to do a BoB type production of a British SWW unit (preferably a Jock one) and get the ire directed at this but I love it. It's a live action Commando comic. It's also cost me a few quid as I've bought a couple of books to do my own research regarding the "history" and events depicted.
Yes, always Lothian and Borders. The enquiry team was drawn from all over Scotland. Most I didn't know until they came back from the enquiry. I remember questioning the veracity of the evidence one evening in the presence of one and spending a fascinating few hours getting schooled. It was very compelling.Jock42 wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:01 pmWere you always Edinburgh based? I'm pretty sure my uncle was involved but he was Glasgow and surrounding areas through his career.Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:08 pmThe first episode was very good but going forward I have a lot of concerns about its objectivity as it is completely based on Jim Swire's book. I have a number of friends, world class detectives, who devoted a large part of their careers to that enquiry and I think their work is going to get rubbished and they will be badly judged by people whose sole knowledge of events will be based on a TV drama.Bullet wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:58 pm Just watched first episode of new Sky series about Lockerbie crash. Really good and still a bit dusty in here
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Erm he assaulted a superior officer and also went on a rampage in Cairo (after his father died so understandable enough) and tried to beat up Richard Dimbleby. Also dismissed from 11 commando.Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:35 pmYes, he did, but rarely possibly never on active duty.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:25 pmBut he did have a reputation for being a brawler and foul on the booze!Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:24 pm
I get the Commando comic thing but when you are using real historic characters and totally abusing their reputation the way they're abusing Mayne's, it's sad. By all accounts, and I've read most of them, and despite some obvious flaws, the complete opposite of the I'll disciplined, drunken, foul mouthed, thieving lunatic they are making him out to be.
Magnificent soldier but he had some demons.
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Some scrot shots my dog; getting a good smack is the least he can expect !!Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:00 pmErm he assaulted a superior officer and also went on a rampage in Cairo (after his father died so understandable enough) and tried to beat up Richard Dimbleby. Also dismissed from 11 commando.Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:35 pmYes, he did, but rarely possibly never on active duty.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:25 pm
But he did have a reputation for being a brawler and foul on the booze!
Magnificent soldier but he had some demons.
Mayne should have been commended for his restraint !
By active service I mean in the field, commanding troops in combat, not getting pissed in the rear.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:00 pmErm he assaulted a superior officer and also went on a rampage in Cairo (after his father died so understandable enough) and tried to beat up Richard Dimbleby. Also dismissed from 11 commando.Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:35 pmYes, he did, but rarely possibly never on active duty.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:25 pm
But he did have a reputation for being a brawler and foul on the booze!
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Dispatches mentioned him as "reckless".
Haven't seen the series in fairness so not doing the rounds on this. Have they touched on the rumours that he was gay?
Haven't seen the series in fairness so not doing the rounds on this. Have they touched on the rumours that he was gay?
The whole original concept of the SAS was reckless to be honest and many of the original officers were picked for exactly that reason.Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:50 pm Dispatches mentioned him as "reckless".
Haven't seen the series in fairness so not doing the rounds on this. Have they touched on the rumours that he was gay?
No, no real suggestion he was gay but as well as the violent drunken lunatic angle they are pushing the narrative he was a boring, pontificating blowhard.
Series 1 did imply a close friendship with Eoin McGonigle, but nothing really more than that.Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:50 pm Dispatches mentioned him as "reckless".
Haven't seen the series in fairness so not doing the rounds on this. Have they touched on the rumours that he was gay?
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Well he was of northern unionist stock.Blackmac wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:12 pmThe whole original concept of the SAS was reckless to be honest and many of the original officers were picked for exactly that reason.Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:50 pm Dispatches mentioned him as "reckless".
Haven't seen the series in fairness so not doing the rounds on this. Have they touched on the rumours that he was gay?
No, no real suggestion he was gay but as well as the violent drunken lunatic angle they are pushing the narrative he was a boring, pontificating blowhard.
I don’t know too much about the history of it all but just watched the first episode and really enjoyed it I must say. Really enjoyed the first seriesJock42 wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:30 pmYeah I completely understand why folk are upset at it and if I were Maynes family I'd be pissed off but I can see past that (possibly because I've enough knowledge of him to know better).Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:24 pmI get the Commando comic thing but when you are using real historic characters and totally abusing their reputation the way they're abusing Mayne's, it's sad. By all accounts, and I've read most of them, and despite some obvious flaws, the complete opposite of the I'll disciplined, drunken, foul mouthed, thieving lunatic they are making him out to be.Jock42 wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:04 am I'm desperate for someone to do a BoB type production of a British SWW unit (preferably a Jock one) and get the ire directed at this but I love it. It's a live action Commando comic. It's also cost me a few quid as I've bought a couple of books to do my own research regarding the "history" and events depicted.
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To see what all the fuss is about, I am watching tonight's episode.
Worth noting that the series is based on Ben MacIntyre's book.
Worth noting that the series is based on Ben MacIntyre's book.
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Stirling was the one who was a chancer; Mayne was half-nutter, & half someone with zero tolerance with anyone who wasn't up to his standards.Blackmac wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:12 pmThe whole original concept of the SAS was reckless to be honest and many of the original officers were picked for exactly that reason.Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:50 pm Dispatches mentioned him as "reckless".
Haven't seen the series in fairness so not doing the rounds on this. Have they touched on the rumours that he was gay?
No, no real suggestion he was gay but as well as the violent drunken lunatic angle they are pushing the narrative he was a boring, pontificating blowhard.
Stirling got a sizable number of his team killed in a parachute drop that anyone with a smidgen of knowledge would have seen was going to be a fucking disaster. I'm a bit surprised that Stirling wasn't the Office that Mayne smacked, but I suppose he got himself captured before Mayne could have come to the conclusion that his Officer in charge was a liability.
Mayne's decorations showed that he was single-minded, & utterly committed to his men, it's a pity that the same couldn't be said about Stirling; it's one thing to embark on a mission knowing that there's a bloody good chance you'll die, it's another to have an Officer send you out on a mission with them having done fuck all planning, & then you getting killed because they were too focused on their own career, & not keeping you alive !
From what I have read about Mayne he sounds like one of those folk who are just not suited for life outside of war. I have an old friend who just couldn’t hold down civilian life.
He was a great soldier by all accounts, RM for 10 years Then somehow ended up in Calvi with 2REP LE. I bumped into him after he had done his five and he was getting drunk and fighting the world.
He never got married or had a long term relationship I always suspected he was gay but had some internal demons that never allowed him to come out.Poor bloke ended up in a bad accident and was killed.
He was a great soldier by all accounts, RM for 10 years Then somehow ended up in Calvi with 2REP LE. I bumped into him after he had done his five and he was getting drunk and fighting the world.
He never got married or had a long term relationship I always suspected he was gay but had some internal demons that never allowed him to come out.Poor bloke ended up in a bad accident and was killed.
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Stirling's post-military career is a wee bit of a stain on his reputation.fishfoodie wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:42 amStirling was the one who was a chancer; Mayne was half-nutter, & half someone with zero tolerance with anyone who wasn't up to his standards.Blackmac wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:12 pmThe whole original concept of the SAS was reckless to be honest and many of the original officers were picked for exactly that reason.Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:50 pm Dispatches mentioned him as "reckless".
Haven't seen the series in fairness so not doing the rounds on this. Have they touched on the rumours that he was gay?
No, no real suggestion he was gay but as well as the violent drunken lunatic angle they are pushing the narrative he was a boring, pontificating blowhard.
Stirling got a sizable number of his team killed in a parachute drop that anyone with a smidgen of knowledge would have seen was going to be a fucking disaster. I'm a bit surprised that Stirling wasn't the Office that Mayne smacked, but I suppose he got himself captured before Mayne could have come to the conclusion that his Officer in charge was a liability.
Mayne's decorations showed that he was single-minded, & utterly committed to his men, it's a pity that the same couldn't be said about Stirling; it's one thing to embark on a mission knowing that there's a bloody good chance you'll die, it's another to have an Officer send you out on a mission with them having done fuck all planning, & then you getting killed because they were too focused on their own career, & not keeping you alive !
Very much so.Uncle fester wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:15 amStirling's post-military career is a wee bit of a stain on his reputation.fishfoodie wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:42 amStirling was the one who was a chancer; Mayne was half-nutter, & half someone with zero tolerance with anyone who wasn't up to his standards.Blackmac wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:12 pm
The whole original concept of the SAS was reckless to be honest and many of the original officers were picked for exactly that reason.
No, no real suggestion he was gay but as well as the violent drunken lunatic angle they are pushing the narrative he was a boring, pontificating blowhard.
Stirling got a sizable number of his team killed in a parachute drop that anyone with a smidgen of knowledge would have seen was going to be a fucking disaster. I'm a bit surprised that Stirling wasn't the Office that Mayne smacked, but I suppose he got himself captured before Mayne could have come to the conclusion that his Officer in charge was a liability.
Mayne's decorations showed that he was single-minded, & utterly committed to his men, it's a pity that the same couldn't be said about Stirling; it's one thing to embark on a mission knowing that there's a bloody good chance you'll die, it's another to have an Officer send you out on a mission with them having done fuck all planning, & then you getting killed because they were too focused on their own career, & not keeping you alive !
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Mercenaries, a bit of gun running, & planning to overthrow the odd Government here & there .... and one of those being the UK; sure it's all in the normal career trajectory of any self-respecting former Spec-Ops Colonel.Blackmac wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:13 pmVery much so.Uncle fester wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:15 amStirling's post-military career is a wee bit of a stain on his reputation.fishfoodie wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:42 am
Stirling was the one who was a chancer; Mayne was half-nutter, & half someone with zero tolerance with anyone who wasn't up to his standards.
Stirling got a sizable number of his team killed in a parachute drop that anyone with a smidgen of knowledge would have seen was going to be a fucking disaster. I'm a bit surprised that Stirling wasn't the Office that Mayne smacked, but I suppose he got himself captured before Mayne could have come to the conclusion that his Officer in charge was a liability.
Mayne's decorations showed that he was single-minded, & utterly committed to his men, it's a pity that the same couldn't be said about Stirling; it's one thing to embark on a mission knowing that there's a bloody good chance you'll die, it's another to have an Officer send you out on a mission with them having done fuck all planning, & then you getting killed because they were too focused on their own career, & not keeping you alive !
If he were still alive today, he'd have his own Talk Radio station, or a spot on OAN !, instead of Ollie North making a virtue of being a traitor & disgracing every oath he took to serve his Country.
Addicted too, last week I was shouting at the traitors to murder the girl described as a Doctor of Communication.Slick wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:13 pm Not very highbrow, but accidentally watched the first couple of this series of The Traitors, having never watched before, and now slightly addicted
Yes, was very pleased she had nothing further to do with it!Bullet wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:51 pmAddicted too, last week I was shouting at the traitors to murder the girl described as a Doctor of Communication.Slick wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:13 pm Not very highbrow, but accidentally watched the first couple of this series of The Traitors, having never watched before, and now slightly addicted
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Anyone watching Traitors?
Camp and silly but it is fun.
On the other hand.
Treatment Kasim got was
Camp and silly but it is fun.
On the other hand.
Treatment Kasim got was

If you look carefully at the 3 posts before yours........Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:02 am Anyone watching Traitors?
Camp and silly but it is fun.
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Shame nobody here seems to be watching Traitors. Enjoyed the person getting the bump tonight. Faithful are pretty hopeless.
Sounds interestingUncle fester wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:17 pm Shame nobody here seems to be watching Traitors. Enjoyed the person getting the bump tonight. Faithful are pretty hopeless.
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Linda has managed to Dunning Kruger her way through so far. Be interesting to see if anyone is smart enough to recognise her distinctive handwriting.Slick wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:19 pmSounds interestingUncle fester wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:17 pm Shame nobody here seems to be watching Traitors. Enjoyed the person getting the bump tonight. Faithful are pretty hopeless.
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They could do with recruiting. Minah is a one(wo)man show at the moment.Punter15 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:31 pmLinda has managed to Dunning Kruger her way through so far. Be interesting to see if anyone is smart enough to recognise her distinctive handwriting.Slick wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:19 pmSounds interestingUncle fester wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:17 pm Shame nobody here seems to be watching Traitors. Enjoyed the person getting the bump tonight. Faithful are pretty hopeless.
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Traitors
So watched the last episodes in a binge last night. Finale was a bit of a damp squib.
But hot damn, Frankie
So watched the last episodes in a binge last night. Finale was a bit of a damp squib.
But hot damn, Frankie

Yes, she must be the most eligible MILF in the U.K. at the momentUncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:18 pm Traitors
So watched the last episodes in a binge last night. Finale was a bit of a damp squib.
But hot damn, Frankie![]()
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I know someone who looks, sounds and acts exactly like her to an uncanny degree. If they are a type, then I’m afraid the one I know likes to be the boss and prefers men who still call their parents mummy and daddy and like to eat bananas for their shape rather than the taste.Slick wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:34 pmYes, she must be the most eligible MILF in the U.K. at the momentUncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:18 pm Traitors
So watched the last episodes in a binge last night. Finale was a bit of a damp squib.
But hot damn, Frankie![]()
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As she stated so eloquently in the finale, she is a mummy.Punter15 wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:08 pmI know someone who looks, sounds and acts exactly like her to an uncanny degree. If they are a type, then I’m afraid the one I know likes to be the boss and prefers men who still call their parents mummy and daddy and like to eat bananas for their shape rather than the taste.Slick wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:34 pmYes, she must be the most eligible MILF in the U.K. at the momentUncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:18 pm Traitors
So watched the last episodes in a binge last night. Finale was a bit of a damp squib.
But hot damn, Frankie![]()
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They're showing the full series of the original Monkey on Prime Video.
I'll not even pretend it's high quality, however it is even more batshit mental than I remember.

I'll not even pretend it's high quality, however it is even more batshit mental than I remember.

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Really? You might be thinking of Leanne the "nail technician".
Well done, I’ve had a very disappointed 24 hoursUncle fester wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:28 pmReally? You might be thinking of Leanne the "nail technician".
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