Stop voting for fucking Tories

[Yeeb]

Sadly yes, I couldn’t be pals with myopic supporters of abbot & team nonce-protect

[SaintK]

Sadly yes, I couldn’t be pals with myopic supporters of abbot & team nonce-protect

How'd you work that out then?
Head back to PR then. The cess pit that is the UK Politics thread there will be much more to your taste.

[Tichtheid]

Sadly yes, I couldn’t be pals with myopic supporters of abbot & team nonce-protect

But Yeeb, I thought we had so much common ground - in my view there is a difference in scale between the individuals in terms of unsuitability for office, but that doesn't mean I actually support either of them. You've got to think, man, not just see what you want to in a post. I'm trying to help you here.

Same with the parties, I haven't voted for Labour since 2005 and have no intention of doing so again unless it's the only viable option of keeping an extreme right winger out. I get the feeling that you haven't been a full-throated supporter of Starmer, Corbyn or Blair - again, common ground. I really think we could be getting somewhere here, we could be mates, talking about all sorts of groovy stuff - Russian and Chinese money in UK politics, a legal system which protects that money, offshoring and tax dodging, lobbying. We could have a right old time.

[Yeeb]

Sadly yes, I couldn’t be pals with myopic supporters of abbot & team nonce-protect

How'd you work that out then?
Head back to PR then. The cess pit that is the UK Politics thread there will be much more to your taste.

Some irisher perma me there , as he couldn’t take the craig when I gave him Rizz about reminding him of admitting he abused his kids. I even quoted his own posts to help jog his memory , sadly it didn’t help him

[Yeeb]

Sadly yes, I couldn’t be pals with myopic supporters of abbot & team nonce-protect

But Yeeb, I thought we had so much common ground - in my view there is a difference in scale between the individuals in terms of unsuitability for office, but that doesn't mean I actually support either of them. You've got to think, man, not just see what you want to in a post. I'm trying to help you here.

Same with the parties, I haven't voted for Labour since 2005 and have no intention of doing so again unless it's the only viable option of keeping an extreme right winger out. I get the feeling that you haven't been a full-throated supporter of Starmer, Corbyn or Blair - again, common ground. I really think we could be getting somewhere here, we could be mates, talking about all sorts of groovy stuff - Russian and Chinese money in UK politics, a legal system which protects that money, offshoring and tax dodging, lobbying. We could have a right old time.

And to me there isn’t really any difference in scale as to their uselessness - so what ?

Past ten out of ten for being utterly shit for public office, there isn’t really a Spinal tap turn up dial to 11. You somehow saying they are especially different , is baffling

[SaintK]

Sadly yes, I couldn’t be pals with myopic supporters of abbot & team nonce-protect

How'd you work that out then?
Head back to PR then. The cess pit that is the UK Politics thread there will be much more to your taste.

Some irisher perma me there , as he couldn’t take the craig when I gave him Rizz about reminding him of admitting he abused his kids. I even quoted his own posts to help jog his memory , sadly it didn’t help him

Oh dear!!!!!

[Tichtheid]

Sadly yes, I couldn’t be pals with myopic supporters of abbot & team nonce-protect

But Yeeb, I thought we had so much common ground - in my view there is a difference in scale between the individuals in terms of unsuitability for office, but that doesn't mean I actually support either of them. You've got to think, man, not just see what you want to in a post. I'm trying to help you here.

Same with the parties, I haven't voted for Labour since 2005 and have no intention of doing so again unless it's the only viable option of keeping an extreme right winger out. I get the feeling that you haven't been a full-throated supporter of Starmer, Corbyn or Blair - again, common ground. I really think we could be getting somewhere here, we could be mates, talking about all sorts of groovy stuff - Russian and Chinese money in UK politics, a legal system which protects that money, offshoring and tax dodging, lobbying. We could have a right old time.

And to me there isn’t really any difference in scale as to their uselessness - so what ?

Past ten out of ten for being utterly shit for public office, there isn’t really a Spinal tap turn up dial to 11. You somehow saying they are especially different , is baffling

Yeeb, now that we are mates I'm going to have to do what any friend would and advise you not focus so much on the minutiae, we can't let an impasse on whether a gaffe or two is the same as instances of professional misconduct bog us down.

We have bigger fish to fry, I found the video I mentioned before - it's from March '22 and asks the question "Is the government prepared to put sanctions that really bite on the tycoons, tax dodgers, kleptocrats and crooks who come to the UK to launder their money, dodge tax and buy political influence?"

https://www.youtube.com/live/9Pf-Dx_fu2k?feature=shared

The Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Act received Royal Assent on Thursday 26 October 2023. Unfortunately it was full of loopholes https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/how-to ... overnment/

I hope the current government can do better

[yermum]

Sadly yes, I couldn’t be pals with myopic supporters of abbot & team nonce-protect

How'd you work that out then?
Head back to PR then. The cess pit that is the UK Politics thread there will be much more to your taste.

Some irisher perma me there , as he couldn’t take the craig when I gave him Rizz about reminding him of admitting he abused his kids. I even quoted his own posts to help jog his memory , sadly it didn’t help him

Rizz ffs man…

[SaintK]

Sturmbannführer Jenrick on manouvres again!!!

Conservative Party divides have deepened after Robert Jenrick supporting activists, who aided his leadership ambitions, set up a new party forum called “Blue Monday” earlier this week, The London Economic can reveal.
The group of nearly 400 pro-Jenrick supporters, including “councillors and MPs,” have secretly criticised the communication skills of Kemi Badenoch since it launched on Monday morning.
Its description reads: “The Blue Monday Community is committed to advocating for and supporting the Conservative Party”. Before its name change, it was called “Conservatives for Jenrick” and supported the former immigration minister’s leadership campaign.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/pol ... -387811/

[Biffer]

How'd you work that out then?
Head back to PR then. The cess pit that is the UK Politics thread there will be much more to your taste.

Some irisher perma me there , as he couldn’t take the craig when I gave him Rizz about reminding him of admitting he abused his kids. I even quoted his own posts to help jog his memory , sadly it didn’t help him

Rizz ffs man…

He's not even used it properly.

[SaintK]

Some irisher perma me there , as he couldn’t take the craig when I gave him Rizz about reminding him of admitting he abused his kids. I even quoted his own posts to help jog his memory , sadly it didn’t help him

Rizz ffs man…

He's not even used it properly.

Haven't a clue what it means TBH

[yermum]

Charm someone

Rizz = charisma

Don’t blame me

[SaintK]

Charm someone

Rizz = charisma

Don’t blame me

Aaah
Never heard anyone use the term. Must be an age thing

[Yeeb]

Some irisher perma me there , as he couldn’t take the craig when I gave him Rizz about reminding him of admitting he abused his kids. I even quoted his own posts to help jog his memory , sadly it didn’t help him

Rizz ffs man…

He's not even used it properly.

WTF you in about, I was perfectly charming to him in how i reposted his quotes about abusing his own child to nuliffy iirc his assertion that there is no noncing in Ireland

[sockwithaticket]

Charm someone

Rizz = charisma

Don’t blame me

Aaah
Never heard anyone use the term. Must be an age thing

It's very much a Gen Z thing that's roundly derided and mocked by anyone else who encounters it.

[Sandstorm]

roundly derided and mocked by anyone else

Like Yeeb

[SaintK]

Charm someone

Rizz = charisma

Don’t blame me

Aaah
Never heard anyone use the term. Must be an age thing

It's very much a Gen Z thing that's roundly derided and mocked by anyone else who encounters it.

Aaah that'll be it then I'm an ageing babyboomer!!!

[Biffer]

Liz Truss has sent a cease and desist letter to Keir Starmer claiming it's defamatory to say she crashed the economy.

Love to see that one go to court.

[sturginho]

Liz Truss has sent a cease and desist letter to Keir Starmer claiming it's defamatory to say she crashed the economy.

Love to see that one go to court.

[SaintK]

Liz Truss has sent a cease and desist letter to Keir Starmer claiming it's defamatory to say she crashed the economy.

Love to see that one go to court.

Not a chance in hell. Doubt she could afford the costs and other than right wing American nutjobs can't see anyone funding her.

The lawyers even suggest that the assertions from Sir Keir before the July general election [that Truss did crash the economy] contributed towards Ms Truss losing her battle to be re-elected as the MP for South West Norfolk.
At the core of the row are the weeks after Ms Truss’s so-called mini-Budget in September 2022, when financial markets reacted negatively to its major tax cuts funded by borrowing.
The legal letter argues that the financial movements did not amount to an economic crash, since there was no fall in economic output or rise in unemployment – the usual signifiers of such an event.
The lawyers back up their claim by quote a report from Andrew Lilico, a rightwing economist who advised Truss when she was running for the Tory leadership. The report says the “financial volatility” of 2022 did not amount to the economy crashing, and that the mini-budget was only one component of that volatility anyway.

[tabascoboy]

[SaintK]

[SaintK]

She has completely lost it.........whatever it was she had!!!

Suella Braverman, the former Tory home secretary, has suggested it is not impossible that Britain could become an Iran-style enemy of America, led by an Islamist government, within the next 20 years.
She raised the suggestion in a speech today to the rightwing Heritage Foundation in Washington, reviving a suggestion originally made by JD Vance before he was picked by Donald Trump to be vice president.
Braverman indulged in further anti-Muslim scaremongering in the Q&A. Referring to Axel Rudakubana, the Southport killer, she falsely described him as an “Islamist extremist”.

She justified this by saying that he had looked at Islamist material online. But Rudakubana came from a Christian family, and although he had looked at Islamist material online, he had also looked at lots of other extremely violent material online that did not have an Islamist connection.

[Hal Jordan]

Get the populist narrative out in the post-fact world,whi cares if it's true as long as enough people buy in to vote you in.

[sockwithaticket]

She has completely lost it.........whatever it was she had!!!

Suella Braverman, the former Tory home secretary, has suggested it is not impossible that Britain could become an Iran-style enemy of America, led by an Islamist government, within the next 20 years.
She raised the suggestion in a speech today to the rightwing Heritage Foundation in Washington, reviving a suggestion originally made by JD Vance before he was picked by Donald Trump to be vice president.
Braverman indulged in further anti-Muslim scaremongering in the Q&A. Referring to Axel Rudakubana, the Southport killer, she falsely described him as an “Islamist extremist”.

She justified this by saying that he had looked at Islamist material online. But Rudakubana came from a Christian family, and although he had looked at Islamist material online, he had also looked at lots of other extremely violent material online that did not have an Islamist connection.

I'm never quite sure whethe she's genuinely mental or just a somewhat thick grifter. I tend to lean towards the latter and her general lack of brains is why what she says is often so hyperbolic or plain ridiculous. It's also why she's in America giving these sorts of speeches - chasing money and telling a paying audience what they want to hear. If she was just a loon she'd be screeching from the back benches in the Commons instead.

[Yeeb]

She has completely lost it.........whatever it was she had!!!

Suella Braverman, the former Tory home secretary, has suggested it is not impossible that Britain could become an Iran-style enemy of America, led by an Islamist government, within the next 20 years.
She raised the suggestion in a speech today to the rightwing Heritage Foundation in Washington, reviving a suggestion originally made by JD Vance before he was picked by Donald Trump to be vice president.
Braverman indulged in further anti-Muslim scaremongering in the Q&A. Referring to Axel Rudakubana, the Southport killer, she falsely described him as an “Islamist extremist”.

She justified this by saying that he had looked at Islamist material online. But Rudakubana came from a Christian family, and although he had looked at Islamist material online, he had also looked at lots of other extremely violent material online that did not have an Islamist connection.

Maybe she thinks it was only the Islamic stuff that made him kill children - it’s a very strange piece of logic though , and further proof she isn’t really fit for public office

[dpedin]

She has completely lost it.........whatever it was she had!!!

Suella Braverman, the former Tory home secretary, has suggested it is not impossible that Britain could become an Iran-style enemy of America, led by an Islamist government, within the next 20 years.
She raised the suggestion in a speech today to the rightwing Heritage Foundation in Washington, reviving a suggestion originally made by JD Vance before he was picked by Donald Trump to be vice president.
Braverman indulged in further anti-Muslim scaremongering in the Q&A. Referring to Axel Rudakubana, the Southport killer, she falsely described him as an “Islamist extremist”.

She justified this by saying that he had looked at Islamist material online. But Rudakubana came from a Christian family, and although he had looked at Islamist material online, he had also looked at lots of other extremely violent material online that did not have an Islamist connection.

I'm never quite sure whethe she's genuinely mental or just a somewhat thick grifter. I tend to lean towards the latter and her general lack of brains is why what she says is often so hyperbolic or plain ridiculous. It's also why she's in America giving these sorts of speeches - chasing money and telling a paying audience what they want to hear. If she was just a loon she'd be screeching from the back benches in the Commons instead.

Like a few others in her party/Reform I honestly think she has been radicalized by the white, right wing, quasi religious, xenphobic, racist fundamentalists. Any sane person with access to all the info would never come to such a crazy conclusion as she has. It is just a poor mans/womans rehash of the great replacement theory. Hopefully Prevent have her in their sights as she seems to fit their definition?

[Sandstorm]

Braverman is a 7-time failed politician doing whatever she can to make some money now, before she's broomed off into the weeds again. She'll say anything to make a buck. Sadly this is the moment in history when her kind of stupid, racist dog-whistle speech sells seats.

I hope we look back on this decade and all hang our heads in shame.

[mat the expat]

Braverman is a 7-time failed politician doing whatever she can to make some money now, before she's broomed off into the weeds again. She'll say anything to make a buck. Sadly this is the moment in history when her kind of stupid, racist dog-whistle speech sells seats.

I hope we look back on this decade and all hang our heads in shame.

All Politicians at present seem to be lacking in Statesmanship. Oz is no different

[Biffer]

Braverman is a 7-time failed politician doing whatever she can to make some money now, before she's broomed off into the weeds again. She'll say anything to make a buck. Sadly this is the moment in history when her kind of stupid, racist dog-whistle speech sells seats.

I hope we look back on this decade and all hang our heads in shame.

All Politicians at present seem to be lacking in Statesmanship. Oz is no different

Speaking as a member of GenX, we’ve failed. The things we like about our generation, the not giving a fuck in particular, means we’ve produced no serious politicians, no leaders, no statesmen. There hasn’t been a GenX President of the US, and there probably won’t be. The UK has had three GenX PMs - Cameron, Truss and Sunak. France, Macron.

We’ve shat the bed as a generation and let the fucking loonies in.

[Hal Jordan]

The US is verging on a gerontocracy in terms of its legislative houses, Congress got a bit younger (av. 58.4 years) but the Senate is God's waiting room (64.3) with some Senators way past it, mentally and physically. But if they quit, the party loses their seats on committees etc , so cling on in there!

[dpedin]

The US is verging on a gerontocracy in terms of its legislative houses, Congress got a bit younger (av. 58.4 years) but the Senate is God's waiting room (64.3) with some Senators way past it, mentally and physically. But if they quit, the party loses their seats on committees etc , so cling on in there!

It is a bit worrying - I'm the same as the average of these guys in the Senate and my main aims in life now are now getting my handicap down and making it to the loo in time!

[C69]

The US is verging on a gerontocracy in terms of its legislative houses, Congress got a bit younger (av. 58.4 years) but the Senate is God's waiting room (64.3) with some Senators way past it, mentally and physically. But if they quit, the party loses their seats on committees etc , so cling on in there!

It is a bit worrying - I'm the same as the average of these guys in the Senate and my main aims in life now are now getting my handicap down and making it to the loo in time!

Lol
How does our unelected second chamber compare?

[mat the expat]

Braverman is a 7-time failed politician doing whatever she can to make some money now, before she's broomed off into the weeds again. She'll say anything to make a buck. Sadly this is the moment in history when her kind of stupid, racist dog-whistle speech sells seats.

I hope we look back on this decade and all hang our heads in shame.

All Politicians at present seem to be lacking in Statesmanship. Oz is no different

Speaking as a member of GenX, we’ve failed. The things we like about our generation, the not giving a fuck in particular, means we’ve produced no serious politicians, no leaders, no statesmen. There hasn’t been a GenX President of the US, and there probably won’t be. The UK has had three GenX PMs - Cameron, Truss and Sunak. France, Macron.

We’ve shat the bed as a generation and let the fucking loonies in.

Boomers still had the balance of power for Cameron, etc. Same in Oz for Conservative voters

Luckily, the demographics have tipped over here

[Biffer]

All Politicians at present seem to be lacking in Statesmanship. Oz is no different

Speaking as a member of GenX, we’ve failed. The things we like about our generation, the not giving a fuck in particular, means we’ve produced no serious politicians, no leaders, no statesmen. There hasn’t been a GenX President of the US, and there probably won’t be. The UK has had three GenX PMs - Cameron, Truss and Sunak. France, Macron.

We’ve shat the bed as a generation and let the fucking loonies in.

Boomers still had the balance of power for Cameron, etc. Same in Oz for Conservative voters

Luckily, the demographics have tipped over here

Yeah, let's blame other generations again

[Hugo]

Realistically, what could have us gen xers have done differently? We are not a not a numerically large or influential generation and things were just about ok for us that there was nothing for us to revolt against.

I just don't think we've had enough of the voting power or wealth to be held to account for the sorry state of the world.

[Sandstorm]

Realistically, what could have us gen xers have done differently? We are not a not a numerically large or influential generation and things were just about ok for us that there was nothing for us to revolt against.

I just don't think we've had enough of the voting power or wealth to be held to account for the sorry state of the world.

We wasted our youth doing good drugs, openly shagging people from other races and welcoming homosexuality as completely normal behaviour.

Instead we should have been buying guns, oil shares and disowning our gender-curious children.

[SaintK]

Everybody knows she's useless but this is excruciating.

[Yeeb]

Realistically, what could have us gen xers have done differently? We are not a not a numerically large or influential generation and things were just about ok for us that there was nothing for us to revolt against.

I just don't think we've had enough of the voting power or wealth to be held to account for the sorry state of the world.

We wasted our youth doing good drugs, openly shagging people from other races and welcoming homosexuality as completely normal behaviour.

Instead we should have been buying guns, oil shares and disowning our gender-curious children.

Wonder what the actual % of gen x that has shagged other races is for the Uk, I reckon it’s surprisingly small. Was just the one guy in my peer circle in Berkshire who had a black girlfriend for a while, and he got the nickname SR71 from it as was uncommon.

[Hal Jordan]

Realistically, what could have us gen xers have done differently? We are not a not a numerically large or influential generation and things were just about ok for us that there was nothing for us to revolt against.

I just don't think we've had enough of the voting power or wealth to be held to account for the sorry state of the world.

We wasted our youth doing good drugs, openly shagging people from other races and welcoming homosexuality as completely normal behaviour.

Instead we should have been buying guns, oil shares and disowning our gender-curious children.

Wonder what the actual % of gen x that has shagged other races is for the Uk, I reckon it’s surprisingly small. Was just the one guy in my peer circle in Berkshire who had a black girlfriend for a while, and he got the nickname SR71 from it as was uncommon.

My wife is of Goan ancestry (first generation of her family to be born in the UK, but third generation to be born on a different Continent to the parents - India - Africa - UK).

I also shagged a ginger lass in my youth.