I'm watching it back and seeing the Scots give the officials lip over the DVDM yellow makes me wonder what is going through their heads.
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You talking about Russell? I think he was claiming for an earlier infringement. (FWIW, I thought it was a nailed on penalty try)Uncle fester wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:57 pmI'm watching it back and seeing the Scots give the officials lip over the DVDM yellow makes me wonder what is going through their heads.
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Possibly but speaking as a ref, we take a very dim view of players trying to talk about a different incident to the one we're dealing with now. Nine times out of ten, it's just whinging/deflection/distraction.Simian wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:05 pmYou talking about Russell? I think he was claiming for an earlier infringement. (FWIW, I thought it was a nailed on penalty try)Uncle fester wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:57 pmI'm watching it back and seeing the Scots give the officials lip over the DVDM yellow makes me wonder what is going through their heads.
Not a penalty try for me. At best Nash only had a 50% chance of getting the ball.
It was more VDM giving the TJ spray that I was referring to. Couldn't remotely claim to be hard done by and he still went and did that.
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So you have chosen the path of chunky lasses in pink cowboy hats and twats in daffodil headgear.Slick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:31 pmI think I’ve warned you about this once already
One of my finest 6N memories is 4 generations of the same family dressed in the pink cowboy hats and short dresses wandering to the game in Cardiff.Hal Jordan wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:25 pmSo you have chosen the path of chunky lasses in pink cowboy hats and twats in daffodil headgear.
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Slick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:10 am One of my finest 6N memories is 4 generations of the same family dressed in the pink cowboy hats and short dresses wandering to the game in Cardiff.
There was a man/woman in his/her 80/90s wearing a pink cowboy hat and a short dress?
In Cardiff?
Yep, I can see that.
Cardiff, so would more likely be mid-60sKawazaki wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:16 amSlick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:10 am One of my finest 6N memories is 4 generations of the same family dressed in the pink cowboy hats and short dresses wandering to the game in Cardiff.
There was a man/woman in his/her 80/90s wearing a pink cowboy hat and a short dress?
In Cardiff?
Yep, I can see that.
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I think you are misunderstanding the breeding habits of the ValleysKawazaki wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:16 amSlick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:10 am One of my finest 6N memories is 4 generations of the same family dressed in the pink cowboy hats and short dresses wandering to the game in Cardiff.
There was a man/woman in his/her 80/90s wearing a pink cowboy hat and a short dress?
In Cardiff?
Yep, I can see that.
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
No, I'd say the oldest woman was probably late 60's. That you find this unbelievable is strange.Kawazaki wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:16 amSlick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:10 am One of my finest 6N memories is 4 generations of the same family dressed in the pink cowboy hats and short dresses wandering to the game in Cardiff.
There was a man/woman in his/her 80/90s wearing a pink cowboy hat and a short dress?
In Cardiff?
Yep, I can see that.
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Concussion but no other injuries.Uncle fester wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:52 pmSlick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:48 pmHe was waving as he went down the tunnelUncle fester wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:39 pm Any word on Graham?
Russell was able to walk off the pitch at least.![]()
It was Cardiff so she was probably only 42 in factSlick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:57 amNo, I'd say the oldest woman was probably late 60's. That you find this unbelievable is strange.Kawazaki wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:16 amSlick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:10 am One of my finest 6N memories is 4 generations of the same family dressed in the pink cowboy hats and short dresses wandering to the game in Cardiff.
There was a man/woman in his/her 80/90s wearing a pink cowboy hat and a short dress?
In Cardiff?
Yep, I can see that.
You dog!Slick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:10 amOne of my finest 6N memories is 4 generations of the same family dressed in the pink cowboy hats and short dresses wandering to the game in Cardiff.Hal Jordan wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:25 pmSo you have chosen the path of chunky lasses in pink cowboy hats and twats in daffodil headgear.
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For me it should have been a penalty try.Uncle fester wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:12 pmPossibly but speaking as a ref, we take a very dim view of players trying to talk about a different incident to the one we're dealing with now. Nine times out of ten, it's just whinging/deflection/distraction.Simian wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:05 pmYou talking about Russell? I think he was claiming for an earlier infringement. (FWIW, I thought it was a nailed on penalty try)Uncle fester wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:57 pm
I'm watching it back and seeing the Scots give the officials lip over the DVDM yellow makes me wonder what is going through their heads.
Not a penalty try for me. At best Nash only had a 50% chance of getting the ball.
It was more VDM giving the TJ spray that I was referring to. Couldn't remotely claim to be hard done by and he still went and did that.
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Bit worrying that Finn passed his HIA but, in Townsend's words "wasn't aware what was going on" and was considered not fit to carry on. It suggests the HIA isn't rigorous enough, but well done to the Scotland management for making that call.Jock42 wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:59 amConcussion but no other injuries.
Well you don't know the laws then, he had no chance of making thatOomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:40 amFor me it should have been a penalty try.Uncle fester wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:12 pmPossibly but speaking as a ref, we take a very dim view of players trying to talk about a different incident to the one we're dealing with now. Nine times out of ten, it's just whinging/deflection/distraction.Simian wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:05 pm
You talking about Russell? I think he was claiming for an earlier infringement. (FWIW, I thought it was a nailed on penalty try)
Not a penalty try for me. At best Nash only had a 50% chance of getting the ball.
It was more VDM giving the TJ spray that I was referring to. Couldn't remotely claim to be hard done by and he still went and did that.
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Given that VdM, who took him out, proceeded to shepherd the ball over the dead ball line at reduced pace, I can't see how he wouldn't have been able to touch it down if VdM were not there? And as I understand it you are supposed to judge it as if the offending player were not there.
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Agree. There was no defender between the ball and the attacker. Penalty try , no doubt. Coming from a neutral and a DvdM supporter.Mahoney wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:16 pm Given that VdM, who took him out, proceeded to shepherd the ball over the dead ball line at reduced pace, I can't see how he wouldn't have been able to touch it down if VdM were not there? And as I understand it you are supposed to judge it as if the offending player were not there.
Slick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:57 amNo, I'd say the oldest woman was probably late 60's. That you find this unbelievable is strange.Kawazaki wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:16 amSlick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:10 am One of my finest 6N memories is 4 generations of the same family dressed in the pink cowboy hats and short dresses wandering to the game in Cardiff.
There was a man/woman in his/her 80/90s wearing a pink cowboy hat and a short dress?
In Cardiff?
Yep, I can see that.
You misunderstand, I don't find this strange. In Cardiff.
Was in the pub so couldn't hear commentary, never realised he had passed.Lobby wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:00 pmBit worrying that Finn passed his HIA but, in Townsend's words "wasn't aware what was going on" and was considered not fit to carry on. It suggests the HIA isn't rigorous enough, but well done to the Scotland management for making that call.
Wasn't revealed till after the match:Jock42 wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:27 pmWas in the pub so couldn't hear commentary, never realised he had passed.Lobby wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:00 pmBit worrying that Finn passed his HIA but, in Townsend's words "wasn't aware what was going on" and was considered not fit to carry on. It suggests the HIA isn't rigorous enough, but well done to the Scotland management for making that call.
"Scotland head coach Gregor Townsend later revealed that co-captain Russell passed his HIA but the national team medics were uneasy about him continuing.
"Finn fine," Townsend said. "He passed his HIA but our staff sensed he wasn't totally aware of what was going on, so we made the call to not put him back on."
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Nash was ahead but his last kick skewed way off to the left bringing Jordan closer to the angle of where the ball was rolling.OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:24 pmAgree. There was no defender between the ball and the attacker. Penalty try , no doubt. Coming from a neutral and a DvdM supporter.Mahoney wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:16 pm Given that VdM, who took him out, proceeded to shepherd the ball over the dead ball line at reduced pace, I can't see how he wouldn't have been able to touch it down if VdM were not there? And as I understand it you are supposed to judge it as if the offending player were not there.
For a PT decision van der Merwe is out of the equation but any other defender has to be considered.
It's a chase down between 2 players for a rolling ball. I would agree with the 4 officials that it's not probable a try would be scored, there's too many other moving parts to make that assessment.
This is consistent with most other PT decisions where the PT will usually only be given where there is no other defender to consider once you have taken out the offending player. Even if it would leave a one on one where you might expect the attacking player would be able to step the last man and get in, refs won't guess what might happen there.
He's still alive mateJock42 wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:27 pmWas in the pub so couldn't hear commentary, never realised he had passed.Lobby wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:00 pmBit worrying that Finn passed his HIA but, in Townsend's words "wasn't aware what was going on" and was considered not fit to carry on. It suggests the HIA isn't rigorous enough, but well done to the Scotland management for making that call.
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Slick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 4:26 pmHe's still alive mateJock42 wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:27 pmWas in the pub so couldn't hear commentary, never realised he had passed.Lobby wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:00 pm
Bit worrying that Finn passed his HIA but, in Townsend's words "wasn't aware what was going on" and was considered not fit to carry on. It suggests the HIA isn't rigorous enough, but well done to the Scotland management for making that call.

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Can’t quite work out why people are getting so worked up about this - not exactly POM’s number 1 fan but he’s clearly doing a bit and it’s reasonably funny
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It’s only the Irish that get worked up. Every year like clockwork the Irish media concoct some weird narrative around Scotland saying we are going to beat them and how terribly disrespectful we are. It’s really oddPaddington Bear wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:12 am Can’t quite work out why people are getting so worked up about this - not exactly POM’s number 1 fan but he’s clearly doing a bit and it’s reasonably funny
Example A above, posted by an Irisher. I’ve heard literally no one here talking about that, I didn’t even hear any boo’s at the game - there may of been some but it wasn’t a cacophony
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And every year the Irish win. Whatever psychology they've got behind it it works for them.Slick wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:12 amIt’s only the Irish that get worked up. Every year like clockwork the Irish media concoct some weird narrative around Scotland saying we are going to beat them and how terribly disrespectful we are. It’s really oddPaddington Bear wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:12 am Can’t quite work out why people are getting so worked up about this - not exactly POM’s number 1 fan but he’s clearly doing a bit and it’s reasonably funny
Example A above, posted by an Irisher. I’ve heard literally no one here talking about that, I didn’t even hear any boo’s at the game - there may of been some but it wasn’t a cacophony
Got to admit I don't particularly mind the guy, get the impression he takes a bit of a dim view of your more rock star type player (of which Scotland do have a few). And of course the Glasgow/Munster thing that has build up of the last decade or so.Jock42 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:20 amAnd every year the Irish win. Whatever psychology they've got behind it it works for them.Slick wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:12 amIt’s only the Irish that get worked up. Every year like clockwork the Irish media concoct some weird narrative around Scotland saying we are going to beat them and how terribly disrespectful we are. It’s really oddPaddington Bear wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:12 am Can’t quite work out why people are getting so worked up about this - not exactly POM’s number 1 fan but he’s clearly doing a bit and it’s reasonably funny
Example A above, posted by an Irisher. I’ve heard literally no one here talking about that, I didn’t even hear any boo’s at the game - there may of been some but it wasn’t a cacophony
Although in fairness I did enjoy a few years back when the captains were asked what their favourite anthem were outside of their own and he said Flower of Scotland, nearly cracking his own teeth while saying it.
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You can vape at Twickers?Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:46 am
A bloke sat near me Saturday spent the game chain vaping