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Come on Yeeb it's a broad church, even our graduate from Hustler's University deserves a seat.
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TedMaul wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:04 am Come on Yeeb it's a broad church, even our graduate from Hustler's University deserves a seat.
You say it’s a broad church, but all things PR have clearly shown that certain celts & liberals are extremely intolerant of free speech, ways of preaching , or any disagreement to their own agenda whatsoever. Bit like an Internet version of Islam for being easygoing and respectful of those with different values.

Having said all that, Incel McIncelface there really is one weird cunt and no mistake
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The only person I've seen shut down on this board was Bimbo - a character that came on here to deliberately provoke others and to derail topics, ie the very definition of an internet troll.

Otherwise people have been left to write whatever they want, I haven't seen anyone else shut down or have freedom of speech curtailed, within reason of course, the old shouting "Fire" in a crowded theatre is not free speech.
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Yeeb wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:09 am
TedMaul wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:04 am Come on Yeeb it's a broad church, even our graduate from Hustler's University deserves a seat.
You say it’s a broad church, but all things PR have clearly shown that certain celts & liberals are extremely intolerant of free speech, ways of preaching , or any disagreement to their own agenda whatsoever. Bit like an Internet version of Islam for being easygoing and respectful of those with different values.

Having said all that, Incel McIncelface there really is one weird cunt and no mistake
There's an orange chap in the Whitehouse cancelling visas and deporting people for not praising him, that's a free speech problem.

Here it' more morons don't like being called morons, but the bad news for them is they're morons, so it's going to keep happening
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:18 am The only person I've seen shut down on this board was Bimbo - a character that came on here to deliberately provoke others and to derail topics, ie the very definition of an internet troll.

Otherwise people have been left to write whatever they want, I haven't seen anyone else shut down or have freedom of speech curtailed, within reason of course, the old shouting "Fire" in a crowded theatre is not free speech.
Yeeb's just sore because The Swarm got sick of his constant bantz and got him booted off PR.
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Yeeb wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:09 am
TedMaul wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:04 am Come on Yeeb it's a broad church, even our graduate from Hustler's University deserves a seat.
You say it’s a broad church, but all things PR have clearly shown that certain celts & liberals are extremely intolerant of free speech, ways of preaching , or any disagreement to their own agenda whatsoever. Bit like an Internet version of Islam for being easygoing and respectful of those with different values.

Having said all that, Incel McIncelface there really is one weird cunt and no mistake
'those who are different from me are so intolerant' :think:
Over the hills and far away........
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salanya wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:25 am
Yeeb wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:09 am
TedMaul wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:04 am Come on Yeeb it's a broad church, even our graduate from Hustler's University deserves a seat.
You say it’s a broad church, but all things PR have clearly shown that certain celts & liberals are extremely intolerant of free speech, ways of preaching , or any disagreement to their own agenda whatsoever. Bit like an Internet version of Islam for being easygoing and respectful of those with different values.

Having said all that, Incel McIncelface there really is one weird cunt and no mistake
'those who are different from me are so intolerant' :think:
They really are, especially the Micks
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Sandstorm wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:22 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:18 am The only person I've seen shut down on this board was Bimbo - a character that came on here to deliberately provoke others and to derail topics, ie the very definition of an internet troll.

Otherwise people have been left to write whatever they want, I haven't seen anyone else shut down or have freedom of speech curtailed, within reason of course, the old shouting "Fire" in a crowded theatre is not free speech.
Yeeb's just sore because The Swarm got sick of his constant bantz and got him booted off PR.
Lolz, not sore at all, for two reasons:
1. It was shit for last few years anyways , and
2. Team green ultimately proved me right in the nicest possible way that they just simply couldn’t take the craig , even when it was c&p the one fellas own posts and admission that he had abused his own kids. He doxed himself better than any joke I could make about their national pastime of bumming
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:18 am The only person I've seen shut down on this board was Bimbo - a character that came on here to deliberately provoke others and to derail topics, ie the very definition of an internet troll.

Otherwise people have been left to write whatever they want, I haven't seen anyone else shut down or have freedom of speech curtailed, within reason of course, the old shouting "Fire" in a crowded theatre is not free speech.
Didn’t mind derailing, the only stuff that had to go for its own good was all that goo goo gaaaaa gaaaaa stuff as literally made pages unreadable.
That all seemed to end anyways , in a manner several suspected would be likely
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Yeeb wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:34 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:18 am The only person I've seen shut down on this board was Bimbo - a character that came on here to deliberately provoke others and to derail topics, ie the very definition of an internet troll.

Otherwise people have been left to write whatever they want, I haven't seen anyone else shut down or have freedom of speech curtailed, within reason of course, the old shouting "Fire" in a crowded theatre is not free speech.
Didn’t mind derailing, the only stuff that had to go for its own good was all that goo goo gaaaaa gaaaaa stuff as literally made pages unreadable.
That all seemed to end anyways , in a manner several suspected would be likely
I’d forgotten about the goo gooo gaaah gaaah. I wonder how the mad old bastard is these days.
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ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:48 am
Yeeb wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:34 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:18 am The only person I've seen shut down on this board was Bimbo - a character that came on here to deliberately provoke others and to derail topics, ie the very definition of an internet troll.

Otherwise people have been left to write whatever they want, I haven't seen anyone else shut down or have freedom of speech curtailed, within reason of course, the old shouting "Fire" in a crowded theatre is not free speech.
Didn’t mind derailing, the only stuff that had to go for its own good was all that goo goo gaaaaa gaaaaa stuff as literally made pages unreadable.
That all seemed to end anyways , in a manner several suspected would be likely
I’d forgotten about the goo gooo gaaah gaaah. I wonder how the mad old bastard is these days.
If you mean QP he died a couple of years ago
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tabascoboy wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:57 am
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:48 am
Yeeb wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:34 am

Didn’t mind derailing, the only stuff that had to go for its own good was all that goo goo gaaaaa gaaaaa stuff as literally made pages unreadable.
That all seemed to end anyways , in a manner several suspected would be likely
I’d forgotten about the goo gooo gaaah gaaah. I wonder how the mad old bastard is these days.
If you mean QP he died a couple of years ago
Yup, threw himself a double six apparently.
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When a gov minister from Singapore says your roll back of diversity programmes is wrong, you’ve definitely gone too far.
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/04/t ... g-at-nasa/


In amongst all the other shite, they're cutting NASA's science budget by 50%. For Astronomy, astrophysics and solar physics, 67%.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:27 pm https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/04/t ... g-at-nasa/


In amongst all the other shite, they're cutting NASA's science budget by 50%. For Astronomy, astrophysics and solar physics, 67%.
Well they're just going to give it all to Space Karen so he can use it to kill a bunch of Astronauts trying to prove pretty much every expert on the planet wrong, by sending them to Mars in a suicide mission
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Biffer wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:27 pm https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/04/t ... g-at-nasa/


In amongst all the other shite, they're cutting NASA's science budget by 50%. For Astronomy, astrophysics and solar physics, 67%.
Who needs science and innovation when you can have thoughts and prayers instead.
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Yeeb, you are a monumental cunt. That's why you got grief on PR, you chinless wonder. Perfectly willing to dole out edgelord cringe but fair quick to bleet when you get your arse handed to you.
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US government spending has increased by $154bn since January 20th. What was DOGE supposed to be doing again?
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Sinkers wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:57 pm When a gov minister from Singapore says your roll back of diversity programmes is wrong, you’ve definitely gone too far.
:lolno: :thumbup:
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Hellraiser wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:09 pm US government spending has increased by $154bn since January 20th. What was DOGE supposed to be doing again?
Giving it to the rich. Golfing excursions to Mar-a-Lago.on the taxpayer's dime, pork barrelling, dropping curious social media posts just before the markets shoot up, the usual stuff.

Meanwhile, the case to give the administration control over the Fed is back in play (Supreme Poodle Roberts up.to his tricks again).
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A judge has ruled that it's OK to deport a legal permanent resident, Mahmous Kalil, for his pro-Palestinian beliefs...

The State Dept has ordered its staff to report on collegues who showed "anti-Christian bias" during Biden's administration...

Gilead, here we come...
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On the plus side RFK Jr has announced that they will have a determined the "cause" of autism by September !
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Gumboot wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:33 pm A judge has ruled that it's OK to deport a legal permanent resident, Mahmous Kalil, for his pro-Palestinian beliefs...

The State Dept has ordered its staff to report on collegues who showed "anti-Christian bias" during Biden's administration...

Gilead, here we come...
And in more "free speech" related news.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/creq99l218do
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Slick wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:41 am
_Os_ wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:59 am My best guess at what Mad Dog Trump is up too is that he's going to say if a country tariffs China then he removes the US tariffs on that country, like a gangster he wants everyone in his protection racket not that of another crime family. I can't imagine what else some of the places he's tariffed can give him, it's not like there's anywhere holding out, they're already taking the US investment that comes their way and exporting whatever they can.

When you look at the numbers I'm not really convinced it's going to work. Lets go through some countries:

Australia is highly dependant on China, both directly and through the value chains of other Asian countries, for them a trade war with China would blow up their entire economy. NZ not as directly exposed, but again lots is indirect (including through Australia). SA is more or less split one quarter each US/Europe/SSA/China, but if the choice is dump one the obvious ones you keep are Europe and SSA. UK is mostly Europe focused, then US, then China, could dump China but it's the single biggest source of imports quite hard to replace all that immediately over night and avoid inflation.

Comes back to economic gravity, our old friend from Brexit. If he's going to try and wrestle countries into actively opposing China, the geographically closer that country is to China the more likely it is he'll have to give that country a deal that's really good, exactly the type of relationship Trump hates.
I guess it raises the question of how the hell are they going to negotiate all these wonderful trade deals that countries are kicking their ass to do. There is an utter lack of intellectual capital or diplomatic experience in the first few levels of US government now
Seems more likely all this will do the opposite of containing China. I cannot see how they're going to get to the "and then everyone turned on China and sided with the US" part. Containing China is going to require a lot of containment, they're about 3 decades too late.
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:33 pm
Biffer wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:27 pm https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/04/t ... g-at-nasa/


In amongst all the other shite, they're cutting NASA's science budget by 50%. For Astronomy, astrophysics and solar physics, 67%.
Well they're just going to give it all to Space Karen so he can use it to kill a bunch of Astronauts trying to prove pretty much every expert on the planet wrong, by sending them to Mars in a suicide mission
Space got $5.9billion in contracts the other day.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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One Chinese company not bothered by the tariffs are the makers of MAGA tat

While many Chinese businesses are reeling from the trade war, Qi, the Maga merchandise maker, brushed off any suggestion his might suffer.

Trump supporters, he said, were willing to pay any price for items bearing the image of their beloved president — and US suppliers were making such a huge profit on them that they could afford to partially absorb the tariff impact.

A Trump baseball cap, for instance, cost only Rmb7.50 ($1) to produce. Tariffs might raise that cost to Rmb20, but the caps were being sold for $50 in the US.

“American sellers could even use the tariffs as an excuse to raise the price to $60 — yet the extra cost will still be borne by the US consumers,” said Qi.



https://on.ft.com/4cAH6tE
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Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:09 am One Chinese company not bothered by the tariffs are the makers of MAGA tat

While many Chinese businesses are reeling from the trade war, Qi, the Maga merchandise maker, brushed off any suggestion his might suffer.

Trump supporters, he said, were willing to pay any price for items bearing the image of their beloved president — and US suppliers were making such a huge profit on them that they could afford to partially absorb the tariff impact.

A Trump baseball cap, for instance, cost only Rmb7.50 ($1) to produce. Tariffs might raise that cost to Rmb20, but the caps were being sold for $50 in the US.

“American sellers could even use the tariffs as an excuse to raise the price to $60 — yet the extra cost will still be borne by the US consumers,” said Qi.



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The one thing summing it all up for me this week.

After all the bluster, lies and posturing. MAGA hats, made in China. What an age.
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lemonhead wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:11 am
Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:09 am One Chinese company not bothered by the tariffs are the makers of MAGA tat

While many Chinese businesses are reeling from the trade war, Qi, the Maga merchandise maker, brushed off any suggestion his might suffer.

Trump supporters, he said, were willing to pay any price for items bearing the image of their beloved president — and US suppliers were making such a huge profit on them that they could afford to partially absorb the tariff impact.

A Trump baseball cap, for instance, cost only Rmb7.50 ($1) to produce. Tariffs might raise that cost to Rmb20, but the caps were being sold for $50 in the US.

“American sellers could even use the tariffs as an excuse to raise the price to $60 — yet the extra cost will still be borne by the US consumers,” said Qi.



https://on.ft.com/4cAH6tE
The one thing summing it all up for me this week.

After all the bluster, lies and posturing. MAGA hats, made in China. What an age.
Even the USA flags used on MAGA merch are all made in China. :Bulldog:
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Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:09 am One Chinese company not bothered by the tariffs are the makers of MAGA tat

While many Chinese businesses are reeling from the trade war, Qi, the Maga merchandise maker, brushed off any suggestion his might suffer.

Trump supporters, he said, were willing to pay any price for items bearing the image of their beloved president — and US suppliers were making such a huge profit on them that they could afford to partially absorb the tariff impact.

A Trump baseball cap, for instance, cost only Rmb7.50 ($1) to produce. Tariffs might raise that cost to Rmb20, but the caps were being sold for $50 in the US.

“American sellers could even use the tariffs as an excuse to raise the price to $60 — yet the extra cost will still be borne by the US consumers,” said Qi.



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It's also now dawned on what passes for the intelligentsia of MAGA that they're shooting themselves in the foot for supply of much needed hi tech goods
*US PUBLISHES TARIFF EXCLUSIONS FOR SPECIFIED PRODUCTS *US TARIFF EXCLUSIONS APPLY TO COMPUTERS, SMARTPHONES *US TARIFF EXCLUSIONS ALSO APPLY TO CHIP-MAKING EQUIPMENT *TARIFF EXCLUSIONS APPLY TO SO-CALLED `RECIPROCAL' TARIFFS
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tabascoboy wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:08 pm It's also now dawned on what passes for the intelligentsia of MAGA that they're shooting themselves in the foot for supply of much needed hi tech goods
*US PUBLISHES TARIFF EXCLUSIONS FOR SPECIFIED PRODUCTS *US TARIFF EXCLUSIONS APPLY TO COMPUTERS, SMARTPHONES *US TARIFF EXCLUSIONS ALSO APPLY TO CHIP-MAKING EQUIPMENT *TARIFF EXCLUSIONS APPLY TO SO-CALLED `RECIPROCAL' TARIFFS
Exempting the high value stuff and leaving tariffs on raw materials isn't exactly an economic positive.
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tabascoboy wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:08 pm It's also now dawned on what passes for the intelligentsia of MAGA that they're shooting themselves in the foot for supply of much needed hi tech goods
*US PUBLISHES TARIFF EXCLUSIONS FOR SPECIFIED PRODUCTS *US TARIFF EXCLUSIONS APPLY TO COMPUTERS, SMARTPHONES *US TARIFF EXCLUSIONS ALSO APPLY TO CHIP-MAKING EQUIPMENT *TARIFF EXCLUSIONS APPLY TO SO-CALLED `RECIPROCAL' TARIFFS
Tacit admission from the thick bastards that the costs of tariffs are paid for by the importing country? Not that they'll say it out loud.
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As I'd said at the other place prior, this tarrif war is over before it even begun. The US can't send Apple, Nvidia, Dell, HP and the entire country to the wall. The US needs China electronics. China needs sweet feck all from the US.
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For what it's worth the Biden administration laid out the blueprint on how to deal with China's enormous manufacturing clout. Select specific areas of national dependency, give US entrepreneurs (which are still the best in the world) the incentive to get out and do things in critical areas, and watch it happen - which they did.
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Flockwitt wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:41 pm As I'd said at the other place prior, this tarrif war is over before it even begun. The US can't send Apple, Nvidia, Dell, HP and the entire country to the wall. The US needs China electronics. China needs sweet feck all from the US.
Tech bro donations and ring kissing paid off, this has nothing to do with rational thinking or a plan, wet his beak and it's good enough.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:19 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:41 pm As I'd said at the other place prior, this tarrif war is over before it even begun. The US can't send Apple, Nvidia, Dell, HP and the entire country to the wall. The US needs China electronics. China needs sweet feck all from the US.
Tech bro donations and ring kissing paid off, this has nothing to do with rational thinking or a plan, wet his beak and it's good enough.
Trump can't actually deal with hard economic reality. Bend the knee to Xi. Get it over with now and move on to the next headline grabber as he always does.
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Flockwitt wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:42 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:19 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:41 pm As I'd said at the other place prior, this tarrif war is over before it even begun. The US can't send Apple, Nvidia, Dell, HP and the entire country to the wall. The US needs China electronics. China needs sweet feck all from the US.
Tech bro donations and ring kissing paid off, this has nothing to do with rational thinking or a plan, wet his beak and it's good enough.
Trump can't actually deal with hard economic reality. Bend the knee to Xi. Get it over with now and move on to the next headline grabber as he always does.
Unfortunately, the King's next headline grabbing distraction could be something as extreme as a national abortion ban.
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Gumboot wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 9:16 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:42 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:19 pm

Tech bro donations and ring kissing paid off, this has nothing to do with rational thinking or a plan, wet his beak and it's good enough.
Trump can't actually deal with hard economic reality. Bend the knee to Xi. Get it over with now and move on to the next headline grabber as he always does.
Unfortunately, the King's next headline grabbing distraction could be something as extreme as a national abortion ban.
Or a little war with Iran.
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