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Deportation of
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-with cancer
-who are US citizens

Sounds about right for this bunch of punching down cünts.

https://archive.ph/2025.04.26-152811/ht ... 235325778/
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:42 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:25 pm https://bsky.app/profile/edsolomon.bsky ... qelking222

Sleepy J...Donald
Catholic masses can be a bit long. I'd pity the people around him with the smell off him once he filled his nappy :sick: :sick:
It was a hot day as well
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sturginho wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:43 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:42 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:25 pm https://bsky.app/profile/edsolomon.bsky ... qelking222

Sleepy J...Donald
Catholic masses can be a bit long. I'd pity the people around him with the smell off him once he filled his nappy :sick: :sick:
It was a hot day as well
He should get used to it, because if there is a hell, this fucker is there for all of eternity !!!
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:43 pm Image

Someone chose not to abide by the dress code for the Pope's funeral :roll:
Some reports say that he was often texting/playing on his phone, and several times he went and walked onto the red carpet even when told a few times that he is not allowed on the red carpet. I think there were a few other things as well that I cannot recall, his total disrespect for others and customs/etiquette would be unbelievable if it was anybody else.
Apparently he got really pissed off when Macron snubbed/ignored him while talking to Zelensckyy :lol:
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Uncle fester wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:52 pm Deportation of
-children
-with cancer
-who are US citizens

Sounds about right for this bunch of punching down cünts.

https://archive.ph/2025.04.26-152811/ht ... 235325778/
Just when you think these cunts can't get any lower...
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geordie_6 wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:29 am
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:52 pm Deportation of
-children
-with cancer
-who are US citizens

Sounds about right for this bunch of punching down cünts.

https://archive.ph/2025.04.26-152811/ht ... 235325778/
Just when you think these cunts can't get any lower...
The saddest thing is that we all know they will find a way to go lower in coming days/weeks
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Kiwias wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:50 am
geordie_6 wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:29 am
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:52 pm Deportation of
-children
-with cancer
-who are US citizens

Sounds about right for this bunch of punching down cünts.

https://archive.ph/2025.04.26-152811/ht ... 235325778/
Just when you think these cunts can't get any lower...
The saddest thing is that we all know they will find a way to go lower in coming days/weeks
It's constant pushing off the boundaries to see where the limits are. At some point, they'll deport an adult American citizen for nothing other than upsetting dear leader to see what the reaction will be.
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bok_viking wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:25 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:43 pm Image

Someone chose not to abide by the dress code for the Pope's funeral :roll:
Some reports say that he was often texting/playing on his phone, and several times he went and walked onto the red carpet even when told a few times that he is not allowed on the red carpet. I think there were a few other things as well that I cannot recall, his total disrespect for others and customs/etiquette would be unbelievable if it was anybody else.
Apparently he got really pissed off when Macron snubbed/ignored him while talking to Zelensckyy :lol:
Someone mentioned on a youtube geopolitics channels that basically the French could ignore the cretin because France did not need any US help regarding Nuclear deterrence.
Illustrated by Macron telling him straight up he was talking shite last time when he spouted Russian talking points (Ukraine started the war etc.) and Stammer could not.
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Trump has lowest 100-day approval rating in 80 years: POLL
Majorities of voters disapprove of many of Trump's policies, the poll found.

Donald Trump has the lowest 100-day job approval rating of any president in the past 80 years, with public pushback on many of his policies and extensive economic discontent, including broad fears of a recession, according to a new ABC News/Washington Post/Ipsos poll.

Yet he still beats the Democrats in Congress in terms of trust to handle the nation's main problems.

Thirty-nine percent of respondents in this ABC News/Washington Post/Ipsos poll said they approve of how Trump is handling his job as president, down 6 percentage points from February, while 55% said they disapprove.

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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:43 pm Image

Someone chose not to abide by the dress code for the Pope's funeral :roll:
The slightly wider photo does show numerous other people not wearing black , but also in blue suits, white headdress etc. there are plenty of other things to castigate Trump on rather than his sartorial choice, it was still formal & not a Doddie Weir tartan job. Just behind and to her right of the black lady is a guy in white headwear and beigey grey nehru style suit, with a black over jacket.
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Yeeb wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 10:31 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:43 pm Image

Someone chose not to abide by the dress code for the Pope's funeral :roll:
The slightly wider photo does show numerous other people not wearing black , but also in blue suits, white headdress etc. there are plenty of other things to castigate Trump on rather than his sartorial choice, it was still formal & not a Doddie Weir tartan job. Just behind and to her right of the black lady is a guy in white headwear and beigey grey nehru style suit, with a black over jacket.
Alright calm down Jennie Bond.
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Seen a few things knocking about today about tariffs really kicking in for the US economy in about a week or ten days. It takes 30 days for a cargo vessel to get from China to LA, so everything that's arriving atm was ordered pre tariffs.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:57 pm Seen a few things knocking about today about tariffs really kicking in for the US economy in about a week or ten days. It takes 30 days for a cargo vessel to get from China to LA, so everything that's arriving atm was ordered pre tariffs.
Hence why ships & doing U-Turns mid-Pacific, as the tariffs have to be paid when the ship lands, & it's cheaper to cancel, & take the loss rather than having it land, & paying dog alone knows how much in tariffs, depending on what the rate is that day.

If he doesn't stop this madness there'll be a lot of children getting lumps of coal, or semi-automatic weapons for Christmas, because those'll be the only home produced products.
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fishfoodie wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:35 pm
Biffer wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:57 pm Seen a few things knocking about today about tariffs really kicking in for the US economy in about a week or ten days. It takes 30 days for a cargo vessel to get from China to LA, so everything that's arriving atm was ordered pre tariffs.
Hence why ships & doing U-Turns mid-Pacific, as the tariffs have to be paid when the ship lands, & it's cheaper to cancel, & take the loss rather than having it land, & paying dog alone knows how much in tariffs, depending on what the rate is that day.

If he doesn't stop this madness there'll be a lot of children getting lumps of coal, or semi-automatic weapons for Christmas, because those'll be the only home produced products.
Also means May brings layoffs - at docks cos there are no ships, in haulage because there’s nothing to be moved, in factories because there’s no supply chain. And even if they reverse the tariffs and assuming the Chinese start to manufacture again immediately, it’ll be a couple of months before any of that starts again, if it starts again.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:27 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:35 pm
Biffer wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:57 pm Seen a few things knocking about today about tariffs really kicking in for the US economy in about a week or ten days. It takes 30 days for a cargo vessel to get from China to LA, so everything that's arriving atm was ordered pre tariffs.
Hence why ships & doing U-Turns mid-Pacific, as the tariffs have to be paid when the ship lands, & it's cheaper to cancel, & take the loss rather than having it land, & paying dog alone knows how much in tariffs, depending on what the rate is that day.

If he doesn't stop this madness there'll be a lot of children getting lumps of coal, or semi-automatic weapons for Christmas, because those'll be the only home produced products.
Also means May brings layoffs - at docks cos there are no ships, in haulage because there’s nothing to be moved, in factories because there’s no supply chain. And even if they reverse the tariffs and assuming the Chinese start to manufacture again immediately, it’ll be a couple of months before any of that starts again, if it starts again.
And the big box retailers wouldn't want those massive stores with half empty shelves, so they'll shutter hundreds of them for smaller ones they can stock, laying off tens of thousands.

It's a recipe for 4 years of Stagflation.
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fishfoodie wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:35 pm
Biffer wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:57 pm Seen a few things knocking about today about tariffs really kicking in for the US economy in about a week or ten days. It takes 30 days for a cargo vessel to get from China to LA, so everything that's arriving atm was ordered pre tariffs.
Hence why ships & doing U-Turns mid-Pacific, as the tariffs have to be paid when the ship lands, & it's cheaper to cancel, & take the loss rather than having it land, & paying dog alone knows how much in tariffs, depending on what the rate is that day.

If he doesn't stop this madness there'll be a lot of children getting lumps of coal, or semi-automatic weapons for Christmas, because those'll be the only home produced products.
Speaking if, these lads have a solution to that...

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/ ... tournament

As expected! I hope the blazers dont bend to the pressure from the Gov to try and appease the Tango Twat!
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dpedin wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:01 am https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/ ... tournament

As expected! I hope the blazers dont bend to the pressure from the Gov to try and appease the Tango Twat!
Yeah, this was always going to happen, like we both said. But government will shut up about it very quickly when the R&a tell them it'll need several hundred million quid of investment in the next three years.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 9:04 am
dpedin wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:01 am https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/ ... tournament

As expected! I hope the blazers dont bend to the pressure from the Gov to try and appease the Tango Twat!
Yeah, this was always going to happen, like we both said. But government will shut up about it very quickly when the R&A tell them it'll need several hundred million quid of investment in the next three years.
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Full on attack of Amazon and Bezos... cool

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cpvrrre4zlkt

Bessent telling reporters that they might use the revenue raised from tariffs to lower taxes. The problem with this enormous lie is that is slowly filtering through to Americans that this isn't how tariffs work and they are going to realise they are being played
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So much for Bezos telling the WP to back off pre-election. That displaying tariff cost is only fair to the consumer and the supplier. If it were the same tariffs everywhere, and the tariffs stayed the same, they could be simply lumped together, but the retail price needs to show why different articles that used to cost the same are now different, and have a mechanism to quickly identify why a price has changed as it changes. The Whitehouse needs to be told to shove it by the collective retail industry
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Polygraph tests now being used in the FBI itself to root out leakers.

Journalists now targets.
The new report comes as Attorney General Pam Bondi issued sweeping new guidelines allowing the Justice Department to subpoena journalists’ communications and pursue criminal charges for leaks of not only classified material, but also “privileged and sensitive” information.
Pete Hegseth threatening to use polygraphs against leakers.

Yep, nothing to see there.
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Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:22 pm Polygraph tests now being used in the FBI itself to root out leakers.

Journalists now targets.
The new report comes as Attorney General Pam Bondi issued sweeping new guidelines allowing the Justice Department to subpoena journalists’ communications and pursue criminal charges for leaks of not only classified material, but also “privileged and sensitive” information.
Pete Hegseth threatening to use polygraphs against leakers.

Yep, nothing to see there.
Odd, especially as one of the things thus far about Trump's second term in office is his administration has been much more sensible about reporting of them they don't like. Sure they're still thin skinned, but they've been vastly better than the first term, and in many ways they've been doing better as a result
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Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:11 pm So much for Bezos telling the WP to back off pre-election. That displaying tariff cost is only fair to the consumer and the supplier. If it were the same tariffs everywhere, and the tariffs stayed the same, they could be simply lumped together, but the retail price needs to show why different articles that used to cost the same are now different, and have a mechanism to quickly identify why a price has changed as it changes. The Whitehouse needs to be told to shove it by the collective retail industry
:lol:

It turns out what triggered the Whitehouse was fake news. A report that added a bit of poetic license to a discussion from a non-mainstream part of Amazon. Bezos out there denying that this was ever intended and certainly never happened.
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Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:25 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:22 pm Polygraph tests now being used in the FBI itself to root out leakers.

Journalists now targets.
The new report comes as Attorney General Pam Bondi issued sweeping new guidelines allowing the Justice Department to subpoena journalists’ communications and pursue criminal charges for leaks of not only classified material, but also “privileged and sensitive” information.
Pete Hegseth threatening to use polygraphs against leakers.

Yep, nothing to see there.
Odd, especially as one of the things thus far about Trump's second term in office is his administration has been much more sensible about reporting of them they don't like. Sure they're still thin skinned, but they've been vastly better than the first term, and in many ways they've been doing better as a result
? the mess that is the DoD, the multiple firings and witch hunt is because of the leaks regards the Signal use and other stuff ups. I don't see the Trump admin liking the leaks at all.
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Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:11 pm So much for Bezos telling the WP to back off pre-election. That displaying tariff cost is only fair to the consumer and the supplier. If it were the same tariffs everywhere, and the tariffs stayed the same, they could be simply lumped together, but the retail price needs to show why different articles that used to cost the same are now different, and have a mechanism to quickly identify why a price has changed as it changes. The Whitehouse needs to be told to shove it by the collective retail industry
Deal with a dementia ridden cunt who was already a capricious lunatic before his brain rotted. Add in the collection of drug addicts, white supremacists, lapdogs, moral vacuums and court jesters that make up his administration and the old adage of using a long spoon when supping with the Devil springs to mind.
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Talking about incompent asses. Here's Pete on a good day...
“This morning, I proudly ENDED the “Women, Peace & Security” (WPS) program inside the @DeptofDefense,” Secretary Hegseth bragged on Tuesday. “WPS is yet another woke divisive/social justice/Biden initiative that overburdens our commanders and troops — distracting from our core task: WAR-FIGHTING.”

“WPS is a UNITED NATIONS program pushed by feminists and left-wing activists. Politicians fawn over it; troops HATE it,” he claimed. “DoD will hereby executive [sic] the minimum of WPS required by statute, and fight to end the program for our next budget. GOOD RIDDANCE WPS!”
Trump signed that piece of legislation into law into 2017 after it being promoted by his team.
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Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:36 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:11 pm So much for Bezos telling the WP to back off pre-election. That displaying tariff cost is only fair to the consumer and the supplier. If it were the same tariffs everywhere, and the tariffs stayed the same, they could be simply lumped together, but the retail price needs to show why different articles that used to cost the same are now different, and have a mechanism to quickly identify why a price has changed as it changes. The Whitehouse needs to be told to shove it by the collective retail industry
:lol:

It turns out what triggered the Whitehouse was fake news. A report that added a bit of poetic license to a discussion from a non-mainstream part of Amazon. Bezos out there denying that this was ever intended and certainly never happened.
Now being reported that Trump phoned Bezos this morning before Amazon said 'no, that's not happening, nothing to see here'.

Sounds more like Amazon backed down after Trump threatened them.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:39 pm
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:25 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:22 pm Polygraph tests now being used in the FBI itself to root out leakers.

Journalists now targets.


Pete Hegseth threatening to use polygraphs against leakers.

Yep, nothing to see there.
Odd, especially as one of the things thus far about Trump's second term in office is his administration has been much more sensible about reporting of them they don't like. Sure they're still thin skinned, but they've been vastly better than the first term, and in many ways they've been doing better as a result
? the mess that is the DoD, the multiple firings and witch hunt is because of the leaks regards the Signal use and other stuff ups. I don't see the Trump admin liking the leaks at all.
I'm not saying they like it, just they've been somewhat more grown up about things this time around and the relationship with the media, not just Trump but the staff too, has been less fractious. Granted it was a low bar to clear, and by heavens this is a big step in the wrong direction, just it seems odd when they had seemed (a little) more relaxed. But then the orange one is just very odd, if being nice
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Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:42 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:39 pm
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:25 pm

Odd, especially as one of the things thus far about Trump's second term in office is his administration has been much more sensible about reporting of them they don't like. Sure they're still thin skinned, but they've been vastly better than the first term, and in many ways they've been doing better as a result
? the mess that is the DoD, the multiple firings and witch hunt is because of the leaks regards the Signal use and other stuff ups. I don't see the Trump admin liking the leaks at all.
I'm not saying they like it, just they've been somewhat more grown up about things this time around and the relationship with the media, not just Trump but the staff too, has been less fractious. Granted it was a low bar to clear, and by heavens this is a big step in the wrong direction, just it seems odd when they had seemed (a little) more relaxed. But then the orange one is just very odd, if being nice
They don't like it when it harms them.

If something similar had happened under Biden, it'd be a lot of 'freedom of speech' and '1st amendment rights' and other stuff.

Let's not pretend they have any genuine beliefs that aren't centered entirely in self interest.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:49 pm Talking about incompent asses. Here's Pete on a good day...
“This morning, I proudly ENDED the “Women, Peace & Security” (WPS) program inside the @DeptofDefense,” Secretary Hegseth bragged on Tuesday. “WPS is yet another woke divisive/social justice/Biden initiative that overburdens our commanders and troops — distracting from our core task: WAR-FIGHTING.

“WPS is a UNITED NATIONS program pushed by feminists and left-wing activists. Politicians fawn over it; troops HATE it,” he claimed. “DoD will hereby executive [sic] the minimum of WPS required by statute, and fight to end the program for our next budget. GOOD RIDDANCE WPS!”
Trump signed that piece of legislation into law into 2017 after it being promoted by his team.
Yeah; "War Fighting" ... that's why this moron spent tens of thousands on putting in a Makeup room in the Pentagon :roll:

Because Pete knows that nothing undermines the fighting soldiers morale worse than seeing the Defense Secretary with a shiny forehead when he's explaining why sharing attack plans with his wife & Lawyer are perfectly normal :roll: :roll:

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... up-studio/
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Biffer wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:28 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:36 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:11 pm So much for Bezos telling the WP to back off pre-election. That displaying tariff cost is only fair to the consumer and the supplier. If it were the same tariffs everywhere, and the tariffs stayed the same, they could be simply lumped together, but the retail price needs to show why different articles that used to cost the same are now different, and have a mechanism to quickly identify why a price has changed as it changes. The Whitehouse needs to be told to shove it by the collective retail industry
:lol:

It turns out what triggered the Whitehouse was fake news. A report that added a bit of poetic license to a discussion from a non-mainstream part of Amazon. Bezos out there denying that this was ever intended and certainly never happened.
Now being reported that Trump phoned Bezos this morning before Amazon said 'no, that's not happening, nothing to see here'.

Sounds more like Amazon backed down after Trump threatened them.
Seeing different takes on this all over the place now tbf but I'm not sure that Trump made Bezos back down isn't the Whitehouse spin side of it. Doesn't stop the admin throwing in a bit of disinformation though:
“Of course he was pissed,” one of the officials, granted anonymity to speak candidly, told CNN. “Why should a multibillion dollar company pass off costs to consumers?”
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I like how the tag "trump tariffs" is starting to stick.
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Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:42 pm I'm not saying they like it, just they've been somewhat more grown up about things this time around and the relationship with the media, not just Trump but the staff too, has been less fractious. Granted it was a low bar to clear, and by heavens this is a big step in the wrong direction, just it seems odd when they had seemed (a little) more relaxed. But then the orange one is just very odd, if being nice
He has openly threatened several media outlets with losing their licenses over their reporting, leading to some of them paying significant money to the administration, while the press office has revoked press clearances to the WH for some mainstream media (overturned by court order). I am not seeing how this administration has a less fractious relationship with the media.
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Kiwias wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:34 pm
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:42 pm I'm not saying they like it, just they've been somewhat more grown up about things this time around and the relationship with the media, not just Trump but the staff too, has been less fractious. Granted it was a low bar to clear, and by heavens this is a big step in the wrong direction, just it seems odd when they had seemed (a little) more relaxed. But then the orange one is just very odd, if being nice
He has openly threatened several media outlets with losing their licenses over their reporting, leading to some of them paying significant money to the administration, while the press office has revoked press clearances to the WH for some mainstream media (overturned by court order). I am not seeing how this administration has a less fractious relationship with the media.
Yeah... from the outside it looks to me as though this time around the gloves are completely off and the administration are openly hostile and vindictive. As for more grown up...? Yeah, about that Hegseth guy
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Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:40 pm
Kiwias wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:34 pm
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:42 pm I'm not saying they like it, just they've been somewhat more grown up about things this time around and the relationship with the media, not just Trump but the staff too, has been less fractious. Granted it was a low bar to clear, and by heavens this is a big step in the wrong direction, just it seems odd when they had seemed (a little) more relaxed. But then the orange one is just very odd, if being nice
He has openly threatened several media outlets with losing their licenses over their reporting, leading to some of them paying significant money to the administration, while the press office has revoked press clearances to the WH for some mainstream media (overturned by court order). I am not seeing how this administration has a less fractious relationship with the media.
Yeah... from the outside it looks to me as though this time around the gloves are completely off and the administration are openly hostile and vindictive. As for more grown up...? Yeah, about that Hegseth guy
There was the fold by the 60 Minute owners. Open bullying of the media is the norm.
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In other news, a tech writer makes the humorous point that we have actually reached artificial general intelligence on the Trump level.
(basically his brain is a LLM at this point) https://www.techdirt.com/2025/04/29/the ... residency/

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Mike Masnick
The Hallucinating ChatGPT Presidency

We generally understand how LLM hallucinations work. An AI model tries to generate what seems like a plausible response to whatever you ask it, drawing on its training data to construct something that sounds right. The actual truth of the response is, at best, a secondary consideration.

This is not the response of someone working from actual knowledge or policy understanding. Instead, it’s precisely how an LLM operates: taking a prompt (the question about job losses) and generating text based on some core parameters (the “system prompt” that requires deflecting blame and asserting greatness).

The hallmarks of AI generation are all here:

Confident assertions without factual backing
Meandering diversions that maintain loose semantic connection to the topic
Pattern-matching to previous responses (“ripped off,” “billions of dollars”)
Optimization for what sounds good rather than what’s true

Just as an LLM will confidently generate plausible-sounding text without any real understanding, Trump generates responses that sound like answers while avoiding any engagement with the actual substance of the questions.

He doesn’t answer the actual questions. He doesn’t address the actual points. He doesn’t understand what’s actually going on, so he crafts a rambling nonsensical answer based loosely on the question, while following the system prompt’s instructions to make sure the answer makes himself look good.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:40 pm
Kiwias wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:34 pm
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:42 pm I'm not saying they like it, just they've been somewhat more grown up about things this time around and the relationship with the media, not just Trump but the staff too, has been less fractious. Granted it was a low bar to clear, and by heavens this is a big step in the wrong direction, just it seems odd when they had seemed (a little) more relaxed. But then the orange one is just very odd, if being nice
He has openly threatened several media outlets with losing their licenses over their reporting, leading to some of them paying significant money to the administration, while the press office has revoked press clearances to the WH for some mainstream media (overturned by court order). I am not seeing how this administration has a less fractious relationship with the media.
Yeah... from the outside it looks to me as though this time around the gloves are completely off and the administration are openly hostile and vindictive. As for more grown up...? Yeah, about that Hegseth guy
And Linda McMahon talking about A1.
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Flockwitt wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:50 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:40 pm
Kiwias wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:34 pm

He has openly threatened several media outlets with losing their licenses over their reporting, leading to some of them paying significant money to the administration, while the press office has revoked press clearances to the WH for some mainstream media (overturned by court order). I am not seeing how this administration has a less fractious relationship with the media.
Yeah... from the outside it looks to me as though this time around the gloves are completely off and the administration are openly hostile and vindictive. As for more grown up...? Yeah, about that Hegseth guy
There was the fold by the 60 Minute owners. Open bullying of the media is the norm.
Has everyone forgotten MSNBC purging all their primetime hosts, who weren't milky skinned ?
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Kiwias wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:34 pm
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:42 pm I'm not saying they like it, just they've been somewhat more grown up about things this time around and the relationship with the media, not just Trump but the staff too, has been less fractious. Granted it was a low bar to clear, and by heavens this is a big step in the wrong direction, just it seems odd when they had seemed (a little) more relaxed. But then the orange one is just very odd, if being nice
He has openly threatened several media outlets with losing their licenses over their reporting, leading to some of them paying significant money to the administration, while the press office has revoked press clearances to the WH for some mainstream media (overturned by court order). I am not seeing how this administration has a less fractious relationship with the media.
Again I'm not saying it's good, merely it's better than it was. Perhaps because they've better people in place, not perhaps good in terms of virtuosity but rather with some idea of what they want to do and how to do it, even it some regard it as evil/lunatic.

But it had been seeming the off the record chats between media and Trump staff were more cordial, more detailed, and wasn't as reactive to a bad news story but was more driven by Whitehouse initiatives, such as they are. And one does need to keep in mind Trump wants to be on CNN, MSNBC, featured in the New York Times and the like, if only because he daftly thinks if they validate him it'll make up for his parents hating him, when really any chance of him growing up has long since been removed from the board.
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