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What's happened to our pet incel - Convoluted?
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TedMaul wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:33 am What's happened to our pet incel - Convoluted?
He’s in El Salvador.
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TedMaul wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:33 am What's happened to our pet incel - Convoluted?
Too busy winning and pwning libs.
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Uncle fester wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:41 am
TedMaul wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:33 am What's happened to our pet incel - Convoluted?
Too busy winning and pwning libs.
Maybe, with continued Trump 'wins', and the recent anti-win by Canada's conservatives (incredibly rare for the likely PM to lose his own seat) broke him?
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I think he's busy sending searing emails to the Complaints Department at Fleshlight Ltd. "I DID NOT ORDER MEDIUM, I ORDERED SMALL"
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If your dog appears disturbed, it's probably because of the incredibly high pitched whining emanating from the WH, where the tango traitor is trying to pretend that the economy shrinking is down to Biden, & not the cunt in charge since November !
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:31 pm If your dog appears disturbed, it's probably because of the incredibly high pitched whining emanating from the WH, where the tango traitor is trying to pretend that the economy shrinking is down to Biden, & not the cunt in charge since November !
Always wondered how people fell for this shit. At all times dominant, cruel and with an endless sense of whinge-laden grievance.

We both control everything and are at the same time victims of weak, incompetent yet highly sophisticated Deep State actors.
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TedMaul wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:33 am What's happened to our pet incel - Convoluted?
Maybe he got laid and it cured him?
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Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:53 pm
TedMaul wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:33 am What's happened to our pet incel - Convoluted?
Maybe he got laid and it cured him?
He’s probably not yet finished crying.
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lemonhead wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:04 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:31 pm If your dog appears disturbed, it's probably because of the incredibly high pitched whining emanating from the WH, where the tango traitor is trying to pretend that the economy shrinking is down to Biden, & not the cunt in charge since November !
Always wondered how people fell for this shit. At all times dominant, cruel and with an endless sense of whinge-laden grievance.

We both control everything and are at the same time victims of weak, incompetent yet highly sophisticated Deep State actors.
It is estimated that somewhere around a fifth of American adults are illiterate and close to half read at a 6th grade (age 12 - 13) level. They are not well educated and capable of critical thinking.
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ScarfaceClaw wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:01 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:53 pm
TedMaul wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:33 am What's happened to our pet incel - Convoluted?
Maybe he got laid and it cured him?
He’s probably not yet finished crying.
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lemonhead wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:04 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:31 pm If your dog appears disturbed, it's probably because of the incredibly high pitched whining emanating from the WH, where the tango traitor is trying to pretend that the economy shrinking is down to Biden, & not the cunt in charge since November !
Always wondered how people fell for this shit. At all times dominant, cruel and with an endless sense of whinge-laden grievance.

We both control everything and are at the same time victims of weak, incompetent yet highly sophisticated Deep State actors.
Maybe it lacks the drive of an election campaign, but team orange traitor booked a much smaller venue than they've often used, and they still had a lot of empty seats, lots.
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Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:40 pm
lemonhead wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:04 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:31 pm If your dog appears disturbed, it's probably because of the incredibly high pitched whining emanating from the WH, where the tango traitor is trying to pretend that the economy shrinking is down to Biden, & not the cunt in charge since November !
Always wondered how people fell for this shit. At all times dominant, cruel and with an endless sense of whinge-laden grievance.

We both control everything and are at the same time victims of weak, incompetent yet highly sophisticated Deep State actors.
Maybe it lacks the drive of an election campaign, but team orange traitor booked a much smaller venue than they've often used, and they still had a lot of empty seats, lots.
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:31 pm If your dog appears disturbed, it's probably because of the incredibly high pitched whining emanating from the WH, where the tango traitor is trying to pretend that the economy shrinking is down to Biden, & not the cunt in charge since November !
Perfect. It was an incredible bit of childish whining
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Bidens fault !, definitely not because of the Trump Tariff Sales Tax !!!!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush ... shipments/

Did you know that Walmart has ~1,000,000 employees ? ... but that's okay, the Waltons are salt of the Earth people, & I'm sure that their response to their profits disappearing will be to help out their employees thru the tough times ahead .....
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Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:53 pm
TedMaul wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:33 am What's happened to our pet incel - Convoluted?
Maybe he got laid and it cured him?
You think he found the sheep of his dreams ?
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:06 pm
lemonhead wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:04 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:31 pm If your dog appears disturbed, it's probably because of the incredibly high pitched whining emanating from the WH, where the tango traitor is trying to pretend that the economy shrinking is down to Biden, & not the cunt in charge since November !
Always wondered how people fell for this shit. At all times dominant, cruel and with an endless sense of whinge-laden grievance.

We both control everything and are at the same time victims of weak, incompetent yet highly sophisticated Deep State actors.
It is estimated that somewhere around a fifth of American adults are illiterate and close to half read at a 6th grade (age 12 - 13) level. They are not well educated and capable of critical thinking.
Feels like something more than that.

They sure love hatin their government and burning them witches. Maybe someone purporting to do both, telling fables of greatness just hits that G(ullible) spot.
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Don’t forget draining that swamp so good white non-aborted children have lush green fields to grow up in as proper gun toting Christians (non-vaccinated).
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Fiery, vivid green. Almost lymphoma-inducing.
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lemonhead wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:50 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:06 pm
lemonhead wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:04 pm

Always wondered how people fell for this shit. At all times dominant, cruel and with an endless sense of whinge-laden grievance.

We both control everything and are at the same time victims of weak, incompetent yet highly sophisticated Deep State actors.
It is estimated that somewhere around a fifth of American adults are illiterate and close to half read at a 6th grade (age 12 - 13) level. They are not well educated and capable of critical thinking.
Feels like something more than that.

They sure love hatin their government and burning them witches. Maybe someone purporting to do both, telling fables of greatness just hits that G(ullible) spot.
With Trump there's clearly some sort of weird charisma that he and a few other populists have to really incite devotion from their flock (on these shores BoJo still has supporters despite everything), but Republicans have been voting for similar rhetoric and ideas contrary to their own interest for a long time.

At the root of their susceptibility is dismal education and the incapacity to parse ideas. Makes it very easy to propagandise them and seduce with simple solutions for complex problems or propose conflicting notions without anyone going 'hey, wait a minute...'
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I love watching little children running and screaming, playing hide and seek in the playground.
They don't know I'm using blanks..
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It is hard to know what a reporter should do in such a case. Moran did push back and say repeatedly that the MS-13 was photoshopped and is not real. In reality, I wonder what else he could have done.
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What do you do when Steven Miller does his getting angry and shouting makes me right routine?
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Flockwitt wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:01 am What do you do when Steven Miller does his getting angry and shouting makes me right routine?
You can cut him off but I don't know that calling the President a fucking liar (as Mehdi suggests) is a feasible option. trump may be a total trainwreck of a human being and president but he is still the president.
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Kiwias wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:51 am It is hard to know what a reporter should do in such a case. Moran did push back and say repeatedly that the MS-13 was photoshopped and is not real. In reality, I wonder what else he could have done.
You hit him with his own shit and tell him he's spreading fake news.
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TedMaul wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:33 am What's happened to our pet incel - Convoluted?
Maybe he's exhausted from all the winning and needed a lie down.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:19 am
Kiwias wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:51 am It is hard to know what a reporter should do in such a case. Moran did push back and say repeatedly that the MS-13 was photoshopped and is not real. In reality, I wonder what else he could have done.
You hit him with his own shit and tell him he's spreading fake news.
Moran attempted to do that but Trump just kept on riding roughshod over anything he said.
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Kiwias wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:39 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:19 am
Kiwias wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:51 am It is hard to know what a reporter should do in such a case. Moran did push back and say repeatedly that the MS-13 was photoshopped and is not real. In reality, I wonder what else he could have done.
You hit him with his own shit and tell him he's spreading fake news.
Moran attempted to do that but Trump just kept on riding roughshod over anything he said.
He's a bully and a blowhard. You have to tough it out and stand right up to him. No-one has actually accused him outright yet, of spreading Fake News. Use it like a fire break and just keep niggling him with it. He'll eventually start to wobble.

being the President doesn't grant him immunity from being accused of being a liar.
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Lying comes as naturally as breathing to the King. He didn't get where he is today without lying through his teeth about everything. His loyal subjects want to be lied to. They love it whenever he picks random facts and figures out of his arse with a straight face. Just goes to show all the libtards what an alpha edgelord he is, and that's what really counts, right?
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lemonhead wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:49 pm Fiery, vivid green. Almost lymphoma-inducing.
The beat green. Some people are saying - I've heard this - it's the most beautiful green anyone's ever seen. So beautiful. We're gonna spread that green all over America. Alaska will be the greenest state ever.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:00 pm
lemonhead wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:50 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:06 pm

It is estimated that somewhere around a fifth of American adults are illiterate and close to half read at a 6th grade (age 12 - 13) level. They are not well educated and capable of critical thinking.
Feels like something more than that.

They sure love hatin their government and burning them witches. Maybe someone purporting to do both, telling fables of greatness just hits that G(ullible) spot.
With Trump there's clearly some sort of weird charisma that he and a few other populists have to really incite devotion from their flock (on these shores BoJo still has supporters despite everything), but Republicans have been voting for similar rhetoric and ideas contrary to their own interest for a long time.

At the root of their susceptibility is dismal education and the incapacity to parse ideas. Makes it very easy to propagandise them and seduce with simple solutions for complex problems or propose conflicting notions without anyone going 'hey, wait a minute...'
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... rs/682645/

There is something to the "When the President says go – Look out, it's hammer time.” sentiment out there. They've had rhetoric, they've had promises, they've had congress at each others throats for years now. Maybe, despite their apparent hatred of monarchy, that is exactly what they seem to crave: a 'STRONG' leader, a king who won't flip flop and just goes 'f#ck it'. Shame he's out for himself.

From where things were in January, the Truss lettuce would've done alright. At least it wouldn't mess anything up.
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Kiwias wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:39 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:19 am
Kiwias wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:51 am It is hard to know what a reporter should do in such a case. Moran did push back and say repeatedly that the MS-13 was photoshopped and is not real. In reality, I wonder what else he could have done.
You hit him with his own shit and tell him he's spreading fake news.
Moran attempted to do that but Trump just kept on riding roughshod over anything he said.
I agree with Kiwias, he did disagree with him repeatedly and also knew that Trump would likely just walk out if he kept going. I think he did OK.

Trump looks about a decade older than 3 months ago
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Slick wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 9:04 am
Trump looks about a decade older than 3 months ago
He might consider not running again and going to prison instead at the end of last year as the less stressful option.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 9:20 am
Slick wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 9:04 am
Trump looks about a decade older than 3 months ago
He might consider not running again and going to prison instead at the end of last year as the less stressful option.
That would be admitting he was in error, which he is simply incapable of doing.
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Slick wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 9:04 am
Kiwias wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:39 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:19 am

You hit him with his own shit and tell him he's spreading fake news.
Moran attempted to do that but Trump just kept on riding roughshod over anything he said.
I agree with Kiwias, he did disagree with him repeatedly and also knew that Trump would likely just walk out if he kept going. I think he did OK.

Trump looks about a decade older than 3 months ago
:wave:

The other thing I reckon governs or restricts the degree to which a journalist can directly challenge the president is the office of the presidency. No-one really gives a shit if some journalist were to call Hegseth or Steven Miller or RFK Jr a total clown for ignoring facts but the public reaction to anyone doing that to the president would be vicious, even in the case of Trump. Like it or lump it, he is the president.
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lemonhead wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 7:37 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:00 pm
lemonhead wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:50 pm

Feels like something more than that.

They sure love hatin their government and burning them witches. Maybe someone purporting to do both, telling fables of greatness just hits that G(ullible) spot.
With Trump there's clearly some sort of weird charisma that he and a few other populists have to really incite devotion from their flock (on these shores BoJo still has supporters despite everything), but Republicans have been voting for similar rhetoric and ideas contrary to their own interest for a long time.

At the root of their susceptibility is dismal education and the incapacity to parse ideas. Makes it very easy to propagandise them and seduce with simple solutions for complex problems or propose conflicting notions without anyone going 'hey, wait a minute...'
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... rs/682645/

There is something to the "When the President says go – Look out, it's hammer time.” sentiment out there. They've had rhetoric, they've had promises, they've had congress at each others throats for years now. Maybe, despite their apparent hatred of monarchy, that is exactly what they seem to crave: a 'STRONG' leader, a king who won't flip flop and just goes 'f#ck it'. Shame he's out for himself.

From where things were in January, the Truss lettuce would've done alright. At least it wouldn't mess anything up.
Although I think general lack of literacy might be part of it I reckon there's more to it:

1) The right are just excellent at "othering". I think this is sometimes confused with racism, because it sometimes just plain is. But more so I think is it just must be so great to have someone else to blame for the life you aren't very happy with. Phew... Not my fault.

2) There always seems to be a real stubbornness to admit being wrong. As an example, whenever I talk to someone who voted for Brexit they will absolutely concede it's been a disaster but it's because of how it was implemented. They were right to vote for it, it was just done wrong. Seems to be a real nailing of your colours to the mast type thing. I find this one quite odd, to be honest, when it's just politics, but there you go.
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C T wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:27 pm
2) There always seems to be a real stubbornness to admit being wrong. As an example, whenever I talk to someone who voted for Brexit they will absolutely concede it's been a disaster but it's because of how it was implemented. They were right to vote for it, it was just done wrong. Seems to be a real nailing of your colours to the mast type thing. I find this one quite odd, to be honest, when it's just politics, but there you go.
This is why social media is so powerful and dangerous. It's easy to find someone online who agrees with you and validates your view, no matter how bizarre/untrue it may be.

It's a curse on modern life. :sad:
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:31 pm
C T wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:27 pm
2) There always seems to be a real stubbornness to admit being wrong. As an example, whenever I talk to someone who voted for Brexit they will absolutely concede it's been a disaster but it's because of how it was implemented. They were right to vote for it, it was just done wrong. Seems to be a real nailing of your colours to the mast type thing. I find this one quite odd, to be honest, when it's just politics, but there you go.
This is why social media is so powerful and dangerous. It's easy to find someone online who agrees with you and validates your view, no matter how bizarre/untrue it may be.

It's a curse on modern life. :sad:
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sturginho wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 2:12 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:31 pm
C T wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:27 pm
2) There always seems to be a real stubbornness to admit being wrong. As an example, whenever I talk to someone who voted for Brexit they will absolutely concede it's been a disaster but it's because of how it was implemented. They were right to vote for it, it was just done wrong. Seems to be a real nailing of your colours to the mast type thing. I find this one quite odd, to be honest, when it's just politics, but there you go.
This is why social media is so powerful and dangerous. It's easy to find someone online who agrees with you and validates your view, no matter how bizarre/untrue it may be.

It's a curse on modern life. :sad:
I disagree
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Uncle fester wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 2:18 pm
sturginho wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 2:12 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:31 pm

This is why social media is so powerful and dangerous. It's easy to find someone online who agrees with you and validates your view, no matter how bizarre/untrue it may be.

It's a curse on modern life. :sad:
I disagree
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