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The Flying Gold Shitter...

has a ring to it.



I'll see myself out.
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Supreme Court kicks the Alien Enemies Act attempt to deport people whose faces we don't like onto touch. Naturally, Alito and Thomas dissent, but fuck them.

And Moody's downgrades the US credit rating for the first time in history. 

So. Much. Winning. 
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mat the expat wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 5:35 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 4:14 am Rachel Maddow articulates the rage...
It's no longer TDS - I've got TFS - Fatigue and the non-sensical acts and obvious corruption
You'd have to assume some of that is by design.

We're only a few months in and I can barely touch the news anymore, much less laugh or get angry at it.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 12:18 am Supreme Court kicks the Alien Enemies Act attempt to deport people whose faces we don't like onto touch. Naturally, Alito and Thomas dissent, but fuck them.

And Moody's downgrades the US credit rating for the first time in history. 

So. Much. Winning. 
Downgrading the credit rating is huge.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 8:32 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 12:18 am Supreme Court kicks the Alien Enemies Act attempt to deport people whose faces we don't like onto touch. Naturally, Alito and Thomas dissent, but fuck them.

And Moody's downgrades the US credit rating for the first time in history. 

So. Much. Winning. 
Downgrading the credit rating is huge.
Yup, biggest news so far really
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Trump: "Think of it, this trip, I made 12 times the money that we're talking point. I made that money in a few days. I've always been good with money. I make money. In four days, I made 12 times what we spent in Ukraine."
How many times have you gone bankrupt??
Jessica: We have big headlines, getting investment like $8.5 billion out of Qatar, that was already announced in 2023 and 2024. Abu Dhabi, he says $200 billion… announced during the Biden administration… He likes to show up and take credit for things other people did
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lemonhead wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 7:50 am
mat the expat wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 5:35 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 4:14 am Rachel Maddow articulates the rage...
It's no longer TDS - I've got TFS - Fatigue and the non-sensical acts and obvious corruption
You'd have to assume some of that is by design.

We're only a few months in and I can barely touch the news anymore, much less laugh or get angry at it.
Absolutely deliberate tactic - flood the zone to destablise you enemy, multiple attacks and keep them off guard. It's the equivalent of the Nazi Blitzkrieg on the battlefield.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 12:18 am Supreme Court kicks the Alien Enemies Act attempt to deport people whose faces we don't like onto touch. Naturally, Alito and Thomas dissent, but fuck them.

And Moody's downgrades the US credit rating for the first time in history. 

So. Much. Winning. 
Yet to rule on the birthright citizenship case, which could be another massive "fuck you" to the Tango Twat.

Ted Cruz was recently saying how he thinks birthright citizenship is a bad idea despite, ya know, being a beneficiary of it himself 🤣
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lemonhead wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 7:50 am
mat the expat wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 5:35 am
It's no longer TDS - I've got TFS - Fatigue and the non-sensical acts and obvious corruption
You'd have to assume some of that is by design.

We're only a few months in and I can barely touch the news anymore, much less laugh or get angry at it.
Of course - it's all part of the Project 2025 Plan.

It's going to take decades to fix, if it's even possible ..... Broken empire
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mat the expat wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:45 am
lemonhead wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 7:50 am
mat the expat wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 5:35 am
It's no longer TDS - I've got TFS - Fatigue and the non-sensical acts and obvious corruption
You'd have to assume some of that is by design.

We're only a few months in and I can barely touch the news anymore, much less laugh or get angry at it.
Of course - it's all part of the Project 2025 Plan.

It's going to take decades to fix, if it's even possible ..... Broken empire
It's been coming a long time unfortunately. People have become so disengaged from modern democracy that their answer seems to be "elect a tyrant who will only tyrannise the people who are not me".
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Is the Springsteen rant on Truth doing the rounds real?
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Slick wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:45 pm Is the Springsteen rant on Truth doing the rounds real?
Seems so, but for a deranged rant it's the response that is ridicules.

https://x.com/TheMaineWonk/status/1923401512262181281
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Jockaline wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 5:19 pm
Slick wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:45 pm Is the Springsteen rant on Truth doing the rounds real?
Seems so, but for a deranged rant it's the response that is ridicules.

https://x.com/TheMaineWonk/status/1923401512262181281
Went off on one about Taylor swift as well.
That's a bit risky. Those swifties are fairly mental.
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Sleepy Joe GOOOOOO...ing!

Diagnosed with prostate cancer that's spread to his bones. :cry:
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With Biden's cancer diagnosis , it will be interesting to see if Trump pulls back on the attacks on 'Sleepy Joe'
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Dogbert wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:06 pm With Biden's cancer diagnosis , it will be interesting to see if Trump pulls back on the attacks on 'Sleepy Joe'
Like he did with John McCain?
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Guy Smiley wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:48 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:06 pm With Biden's cancer diagnosis , it will be interesting to see if Trump pulls back on the attacks on 'Sleepy Joe'
Like he did with John McCain?
That's a fair point , you would have hoped that any decent human being would tone down the vitriol - but then again this is Trump we are talking about.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:48 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:06 pm With Biden's cancer diagnosis , it will be interesting to see if Trump pulls back on the attacks on 'Sleepy Joe'
Like he did with John McCain?
That's a fair point , you would have hoped that any decent human being would tone down the vitriol - but then again this is Trump we are talking about.
Lager & Lime - we don't do cocktails
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Dogbert wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:06 pm With Biden's cancer diagnosis , it will be interesting to see if Trump pulls back on the attacks on 'Sleepy Joe'
There'll be some performative fake sympathy where he bigs himself up and then the digs will continue.
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Cancer like heart disease seems worried about finding the right target, 'tis a shame.
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Uncle fester wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 1:35 pm
mat the expat wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:45 am
lemonhead wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 7:50 am

You'd have to assume some of that is by design.

We're only a few months in and I can barely touch the news anymore, much less laugh or get angry at it.
Of course - it's all part of the Project 2025 Plan.

It's going to take decades to fix, if it's even possible ..... Broken empire
It's been coming a long time unfortunately. People have become so disengaged from modern democracy that their answer seems to be "elect a tyrant who will only tyrannise the people who are not me".
Yeah, I get a fair amount of flak from friends for being a policy wonk - but at the end of the day if you're "Too busy to bother with Politics", I don't have much sympathy for you

I come from a poor background, but getting a good education was hammered into us as kids

You're literally consigning your children to a worse life if you aren't engaged
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Jockaline wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 5:19 pm
Slick wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:45 pm Is the Springsteen rant on Truth doing the rounds real?
Seems so, but for a deranged rant it's the response that is ridicules.

https://x.com/TheMaineWonk/status/1923401512262181281
Sorry, I meant the Trump response
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Dogbert wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:56 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:48 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:06 pm With Biden's cancer diagnosis , it will be interesting to see if Trump pulls back on the attacks on 'Sleepy Joe'
Like he did with John McCain?
That's a fair point , you would have hoped that any decent human being would tone down the vitriol - but then again this is Trump we are talking about.
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Kiwias wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 8:33 am
Dogbert wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:56 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:48 pm

Like he did with John McCain?
That's a fair point , you would have hoped that any decent human being would tone down the vitriol - but then again this is Trump we are talking about.
Don Jr rides to the rescue

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mat the expat wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 2:06 am
Uncle fester wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 1:35 pm
mat the expat wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:45 am

Of course - it's all part of the Project 2025 Plan.

It's going to take decades to fix, if it's even possible ..... Broken empire
It's been coming a long time unfortunately. People have become so disengaged from modern democracy that their answer seems to be "elect a tyrant who will only tyrannise the people who are not me".
Yeah, I get a fair amount of flak from friends for being a policy wonk - but at the end of the day if you're "Too busy to bother with Politics", I don't have much sympathy for you

I come from a poor background, but getting a good education was hammered into us as kids

You're literally consigning your children to a worse life if you aren't engaged
This 100%! My Granny, who worked her whole life in the Dundee jute mills, wouldn't allow Maggie Thatcher on her tv and even at the age of 80+ drilled it into all of us her grandkids that we had to vote. She told us in no uncertain terms that if we didn't vote we would end up with a world where things would be no better that she had. She was absolutely clear that a vote for all was hard won and not using it was a crime. She was a very forceful old lady! As a result I have always voted and I have made sure my kids have done the same. If you don't engage and vote then stop the feckin moaning!
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dpedin wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 8:48 am
mat the expat wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 2:06 am
Uncle fester wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 1:35 pm

It's been coming a long time unfortunately. People have become so disengaged from modern democracy that their answer seems to be "elect a tyrant who will only tyrannise the people who are not me".
Yeah, I get a fair amount of flak from friends for being a policy wonk - but at the end of the day if you're "Too busy to bother with Politics", I don't have much sympathy for you

I come from a poor background, but getting a good education was hammered into us as kids

You're literally consigning your children to a worse life if you aren't engaged
This 100%! My Granny, who worked her whole life in the Dundee jute mills, wouldn't allow Maggie Thatcher on her tv and even at the age of 80+ drilled it into all of us her grandkids that we had to vote. She told us in no uncertain terms that if we didn't vote we would end up with a world where things would be no better that she had. She was absolutely clear that a vote for all was hard won and not using it was a crime. She was a very forceful old lady! As a result I have always voted and I have made sure my kids have done the same. If you don't engage and vote then stop the feckin moaning!
Agree totally with ‘don’t whinge if you don’t vote’ - but you kind of have to respect people’s wishes not to vote if it doesn’t interest them or can’t be arsed or genuinely don’t think it makes any discernible difference which shambles is in power. People who don’t give a shit are often the most amiable types going, and content , which is admirable.

I’ve always voted and as has been said, enfranchisement has been hard won over the years and I respect that - but deffo fall into Venn diagram of seeing little discernible difference to anything really, and each election comes closer to old man ranting at cloud for meaningful effect.
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Gumboot wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 8:22 pm Sleepy Joe GOOOOOO...ing!

Diagnosed with prostate cancer that's spread to his bones. :cry:
And that's why it was a risk to persist with him as a presidential candidate at his age.

We might see it with Trump before his term is out but having an incapacitated leader of a superpower is not a great prospect.
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Kiwias wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 8:33 am
Dogbert wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:56 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:48 pm

Like he did with John McCain?
That's a fair point , you would have hoped that any decent human being would tone down the vitriol - but then again this is Trump we are talking about.
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Her doctorate is in education.

Don Jr is a moron.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 9:20 am
Kiwias wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 8:33 am
Dogbert wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:56 pm

That's a fair point , you would have hoped that any decent human being would tone down the vitriol - but then again this is Trump we are talking about.
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Her doctorate is in education.

Don Jr is a moron.
And sadly whether he knows or doesn't ain't important.

Dumb or deliberate, it's MAGA catnip.
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Plus Stage 5 cancer doesn't exist, except in rare cases of children's kidney cancer. MAGAtts. :crazy:
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robmatic wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 9:16 am
Gumboot wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 8:22 pm Sleepy Joe GOOOOOO...ing!

Diagnosed with prostate cancer that's spread to his bones. :cry:
And that's why it was a risk to persist with him as a presidential candidate at his age.

We might see it with Trump before his term is out but having an incapacitated leader of a superpower is not a great prospect.
Just think, if Biden had won we'd be getting a black woman as President as a result of this.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 9:49 am
Just think, if Biden had won we'd be getting a black woman as President as a result of this.
Only way there'll be an American female president is thru a VP getting thru after a death/impeachment of the incumbent. Americans have shown twice already that they don't want a woman in the Oval Office.
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dpedin wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 8:48 am
mat the expat wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 2:06 am
Uncle fester wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 1:35 pm

It's been coming a long time unfortunately. People have become so disengaged from modern democracy that their answer seems to be "elect a tyrant who will only tyrannise the people who are not me".
Yeah, I get a fair amount of flak from friends for being a policy wonk - but at the end of the day if you're "Too busy to bother with Politics", I don't have much sympathy for you

I come from a poor background, but getting a good education was hammered into us as kids

You're literally consigning your children to a worse life if you aren't engaged
This 100%! My Granny, who worked her whole life in the Dundee jute mills, wouldn't allow Maggie Thatcher on her tv and even at the age of 80+ drilled it into all of us her grandkids that we had to vote. She told us in no uncertain terms that if we didn't vote we would end up with a world where things would be no better that she had. She was absolutely clear that a vote for all was hard won and not using it was a crime. She was a very forceful old lady! As a result I have always voted and I have made sure my kids have done the same. If you don't engage and vote then stop the feckin moaning!
What a great person!

And I hate the UK Mentality of not voting but whinging constantly about politics
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 10:03 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 9:49 am
Just think, if Biden had won we'd be getting a black woman as President as a result of this.
Only way there'll be an American female president is thru a VP getting thru after a death/impeachment of the incumbent. Americans have shown twice already that they don't want a woman in the Oval Office.
This X 1,000
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Kiwias wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 4:30 am
Sandstorm wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 10:03 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 9:49 am
Just think, if Biden had won we'd be getting a black woman as President as a result of this.
Only way there'll be an American female president is thru a VP getting thru after a death/impeachment of the incumbent. Americans have shown twice already that they don't want a woman in the Oval Office.
This X 1,000
Yep!

And also wot mat and others said...

About 90 million people didn't vote in the last presidential election. That's more than 35% of all eligible voters. Allowing for the many people who had legit reasons for not voting, that still leaves tens of millions who just couldn't be arsed. No sympathy at all for those dumbarses, when they lose their jobs or can't afford eggs.

The Republicans understand the power of the vote. That's why they suppress it whenever they can.
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Is this youth rebellion against 'woke' happening in the UK, Oz, NZ as well? Feels like there's a small movement in Canada.

Warped by influencers ... not unlike Goebbels?


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Niegs wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 7:35 pm Is this youth rebellion against 'woke' happening in the UK, Oz, NZ as well? Feels like there's a small movement in Canada.

Warped by influencers ... not unlike Goebbels?


It’s definitely a thing, at least among a sub-set that leans male. Not sure why anyone is surprised, leaving aside the rights and wrongs time is moving on and styles, tastes and attitudes change.
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It does sound like a lot see themselves having less prosperous future than their parents, and even feel attacked by 'DEI' and 'woke'. But, on the latter, I've asked some people... how do these things ACTUALLY affect YOU? Almost never. On the former, we all need to band together to hold politicians of all / most stripes to make corporations pay for the ways they exploit (and I see the conservative parties as least likely to do that ... but even our leftist parties rely on a TON of corporate donations and the votes of people who got theirs and would rather not share, so ... )
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Niegs wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 8:20 pm It does sound like a lot see themselves having less prosperous future than their parents, and even feel attacked by 'DEI' and 'woke'. But, on the latter, I've asked some people... how do these things ACTUALLY affect YOU? Almost never. On the former, we all need to band together to hold politicians of all / most stripes to make corporations pay for the ways they exploit (and I see the conservative parties as least likely to do that ... but even our leftist parties rely on a TON of corporate donations and the votes of people who got theirs and would rather not share, so ... )
In an answer to ‘how does it affect you’, there are a lot of younger white men who feel that they don’t get a fair shake at uni admissions/promotions at work etc., and there is some evidence that this is true (and some companies where there is overt and undeniable boosting of people who aren’t white males).
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