Mighty Mouse Gone

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FalconJock
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Ian McLaughlan passes away age 83

https://scottishrugby.org/obituary-ian-mclauchlan/
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FalconJock wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:18 pm Ian McLaughlan passes away age 83

https://scottishrugby.org/obituary-ian-mclauchlan/
RIP. The blueprint for the small, mobile prop. An absolute hero of my early days at Murrayfield with my dad.
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Was just slightly early for me but a hero of my dads who he spoke about a lot
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Sad news, he was a legend of the game.
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An absolute legend. Sad news.
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In the 70's when Scottish International rugby was in the doldrums Mighty Mouse was a shining beacon

3rd choice prop at the start of the 71 NZ Lions tour , the started all Test games , winning the series , scoring a momentous try - then went to RSA in 74 Lions tour - again played in all the tests , winning the series.,
8 lions test games . 22 non test lions games, 43 Scottish caps

Captain of the national side nineteen times (ten times of which Scotland won. )

One of Scotland's greatest forwards , if not the greatest
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Dogbert wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:38 pm In the 70's when Scottish International rugby was in the doldrums Mighty Mouse was a shining beacon

3rd choice prop at the start of the 71 NZ Lions tour , the started all Test games , winning the series , scoring a momentous try - then went to RSA in 74 Lions tour - again played in all the tests , winning the series.,
8 lions test games . 22 non test lions games, 43 Scottish caps

Captain of the national side nineteen times (ten times of which Scotland won. )

One of Scotland's greatest forwards , if not the greatest
Was he around at the same time as Sandy Carmichael
I can vaguely recall getting them confused years ago
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SaintK wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:44 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:38 pm In the 70's when Scottish International rugby was in the doldrums Mighty Mouse was a shining beacon

3rd choice prop at the start of the 71 NZ Lions tour , the started all Test games , winning the series , scoring a momentous try - then went to RSA in 74 Lions tour - again played in all the tests , winning the series.,
8 lions test games . 22 non test lions games, 43 Scottish caps

Captain of the national side nineteen times (ten times of which Scotland won. )

One of Scotland's greatest forwards , if not the greatest
Was he around at the same time as Sandy Carmichael
I can vaguely recall getting them confused years ago

Yeah, they played together for West of Scotland*, Scotland and the Lions iirc, along with Gordon Brown.


*just in case, I don't want to teach egg-sucking, West of Scotland Football Club were formed in 1865, before codification. I make the point that they are a club, not a district
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Not quite.. Ian MacLauchlan played for Jordanhill College. Sandy Carmichael played for West, along with Gordon Brown, Quintin Dunlop, Chris Rea and others who were capped. They did however, play together for Glasgow District.

There was a fantastic picture of him lifting Jazz Muller, the NZ prop, clear airborne in a scrum on the 1971 Lions tour. He had phenomenal strength and technical proficiency. Another of my boyhood heroes shuffling on alas. A great player indeed.
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BagfordViper wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:26 pm Not quite.. Ian MacLauchlan played for Jordanhill College. Sandy Carmichael played for West, along with Gordon Brown, Quintin Dunlop, Chris Rea and others who were capped. They did however, play together for Glasgow District.

There was a fantastic picture of him lifting Jazz Muller, the NZ prop, clear airborne in a scrum on the 1971 Lions tour. He had phenomenal strength and technical proficiency. Another of my boyhood heroes shuffling on alas. A great player indeed.

Right enough on Jordanhill :oops:

Sackcloth and ashes for me, then.
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Hardly. A very reasonable error to make. Another intriguing snippet about Might Mouse is that he got his first Scottish trial as far back as in 1963, well before his first cap, at Twickenham in 1963. It was Billy Steele's first cap too.. David Duckham was on fire that day, scoring a couple of peaches and putting Scotland well and truly to the sword, unfortunately.
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Oops, first cap v England in 1969, not 1963.
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My favourite Lion of all time.

RIP Mighty Mouse
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RIP to a giant of the game.
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Wonderful player.

RIP
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Dogbert wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:38 pm
One of Scotland's greatest forwards , if not the greatest
What's the pantheon?
Go with top five.
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Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:41 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:38 pm
One of Scotland's greatest forwards , if not the greatest
What's the pantheon?
Go with top five.
My own personal . in no particular order

Ian McLauchlan
Tom Smith
Doddie Weir
David Leslie
David Sole

But Gordon Brown, Sandy Carmichael, Jim Calder, Finlay Calder all could be in there too
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Before my time but still a well known name. Testament to his status in Scottish rugby.
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Dogbert wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:54 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:41 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:38 pm
One of Scotland's greatest forwards , if not the greatest
What's the pantheon?
Go with top five.
My own personal . in no particular order

Ian McLauchlan
Tom Smith
Doddie Weir
David Leslie
David Sole

But Gordon Brown, Sandy Carmichael, Jim Calder, Finlay Calder all could be in there too
I would add Derek White into that mix, an absolute beast in the tackle
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ASMO wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:22 am
Dogbert wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:54 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:41 pm

What's the pantheon?
Go with top five.
My own personal . in no particular order

Ian McLauchlan
Tom Smith
Doddie Weir
David Leslie
David Sole

But Gordon Brown, Sandy Carmichael, Jim Calder, Finlay Calder all could be in there too
I would add Derek White into that mix, an absolute beast in the tackle
What about Calder and Jeffrey?
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Uncle fester wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:54 am
ASMO wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:22 am
Dogbert wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:54 pm
My own personal . in no particular order

Ian McLauchlan
Tom Smith
Doddie Weir
David Leslie
David Sole

But Gordon Brown, Sandy Carmichael, Jim Calder, Finlay Calder all could be in there too
I would add Derek White into that mix, an absolute beast in the tackle
What about Calder and Jeffrey?
I aave covered both the Calder twins ( although twins, they never played in the same Scotland Team )

Jeffery could certainly be in there though, as could Derek White.

They only current player that could possibly sneak in is Zander, but as he is still playing I ruled him out of my personal selection
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Nathan Hines not considered on account of being a dirty crim?

Rob Wainwright was a pretty decent player also but not in the level of the guys above.

Killer B's back row could have been excellent but for various reasons, it never happened.
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Uncle fester wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:18 pm Nathan Hines not considered on account of being a dirty crim?

Rob Wainwright was a pretty decent player also but not in the level of the guys above.

Killer B's back row could have been excellent but for various reasons, it never happened.
The Killer B's were also cursed to be playing with a dreadful collection of backs, so even if they had had a longer period of time together in the national team, it would have been futile.
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But for injuries Jason White might be getting named here.

Also perhaps an honorable mention for John Beattie
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Not so sure about Beattie. I always felt he was a but of a flat track bully and much preferred Ian Paxton at No 8.
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