Americas Cup - Official Thread

[Enzedder]

Things are starting to hot up for the main event of the Kiwi summer - the boats and crews are arriving and the NZ race boat should be on the water in about 3 weeks.

Brittania was launched yesterday





The Yanks were a few days ago with Patriot


Nice pics of them today trying to decide whether their boat was a plane or a submarine


Finally some great shots of the NZ practice boat doing her stuff

[Monkey Magic]

Are you going to put that on tiktok?
No mate.

You can hear the disappointment in the father's voice that his son is a pillock

[Ymx]

Thanks Enz. Was going to start this myself today.

Hotting up. I’ve not been following for a while but has ETNZ still not released their second boat?

Of course the did the trickery of releasing their mini practice boat after their first, when it had appeared they skipped building a practice boat.

[Sandstorm]

Love the boats, but the cutoff topsail annoys me!

[Ymx]

First up is the Auckland Christmas Series.

17th - 20th Dec.



https://www.americascup.com/en/acws/auckland#

Do the results feed in to the Prada Cup Challenge, or is it a "friendly", and opportunity to give the boats a beasting, or even a bit more for Ainslie the ship slayer?

[Ymx]

Ainslie I

This was terrifying.

[stunt_cunt]

The hull on that british boat is quite sexual, complete turnaround from that old floating swim pontoon they first came up with.

The yanks launched their new boat into an almost pitch pole the other day I see too.

It's looking like there will be some amazing racing to watch. Was up Mt Vic in Takas the other week too for first time in years, terrific viewing location.

[Ymx]

Ainslie II

Taking out the ETNZ pre race

[Ymx]

Ainslie III

No other boat to crash in to ...

[Enzedder]

TNZ's Race boat about to be launched

[Ymx]

ETNZ have finally released their boat.

I imagine there will be quite a few photos being taken.

They’ve left it late. Think they’re racing soon. I guess they are still remembering San Diego where they were copied and beaten.

There is the pre Christmas race is there not?

[Ymx]

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cu ... app-iPhone


And they’re talking about hitting 50 knots plus

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

[Ymx]

Feel free to leave this thread, or this forum if it’s not for you.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

Feel free to leave this thread, or this forum if it’s not for you.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

Genuine question: You do know that general public awareness of the America's Cup in the USA is virtually nil, right?

[Wignu]

Genuine question: You do know that general public awareness of the America's Cup in the USA is virtually nil, right?

Genuine question: Do you think we actually care wtf the general public awareness of the AC in the USA is? Their general awareness is fucking low anyway.

[laurent]

Well it's extremely low in France .

The Biggest off shore race is on and I don't believe there is a French challenger this time.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

Genuine question: You do know that general public awareness of the America's Cup in the USA is virtually nil, right?

Genuine question: Do you think we actually care wtf the general public awareness of the AC in the USA is? Their general awareness is fucking low anyway.

I simply suspect the whole thing is a have.

I know from experience (dude) that many Kiwis follow the America's Cup on some misguided belief the plucky Kiwis are sticking it to the big dogs.

But having lived in North America, I know for a fact that it has no sporting profile whatsoever. No one knows it is on. No one. Ironically the NZ TV audience is probably ten times that of the Americans.

I am already outraged that some of my tax dollars from 2021 onwards are going to be wasted on wealthy Kiwi sailors racing their foreign counterparts.

And no one, apart from a few thousand misguided Kiwis, gives a flying fuck.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

Well it's extremely low in France .

The Biggest off shore race is on and I don't believe there is a French challenger this time.

It's extremely low everywhere except New Zealand, where we have a bad case of yacht racing short mans syndrome.

[Certain Navigator]

Genuine question: You do know that general public awareness of the America's Cup in the USA is virtually nil, right?

Genuine question: Do you think we actually care wtf the general public awareness of the AC in the USA is? Their general awareness is fucking low anyway.

I simply suspect the whole thing is a have.

I know from experience (dude) that many Kiwis follow the America's Cup on some misguided belief the plucky Kiwis are sticking it to the big dogs.

But having lived in North America, I know for a fact that it has no sporting profile whatsoever. No one knows it is on. No one. Ironically the NZ TV audience is probably ten times that of the Americans.

I am already outraged that some of my tax dollars from 2021 onwards are going to be wasted on wealthy Kiwi sailors racing their foreign counterparts.

And no one, apart from a few thousand misguided Kiwis, gives a flying fuck.

This certainly wasn't true during the decade I lived in the US. Australia winning it in 1983 was akin to a foreign interloper taking out the World Series or the Super Bowl.

I suspect your views on the Americas Cup profile reflects more your own narrow perspective. It's always been a fairly niche, and elitist, event, but the combination of big money, high tech, and sailing gives it a prestige that extends way beyond a few yachting aficionados.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

Genuine question: Do you think we actually care wtf the general public awareness of the AC in the USA is? Their general awareness is fucking low anyway.

I simply suspect the whole thing is a have.

I know from experience (dude) that many Kiwis follow the America's Cup on some misguided belief the plucky Kiwis are sticking it to the big dogs.

But having lived in North America, I know for a fact that it has no sporting profile whatsoever. No one knows it is on. No one. Ironically the NZ TV audience is probably ten times that of the Americans.

I am already outraged that some of my tax dollars from 2021 onwards are going to be wasted on wealthy Kiwi sailors racing their foreign counterparts.

And no one, apart from a few thousand misguided Kiwis, gives a flying fuck.

This certainly wasn't true during the decade I lived in the US. Australia winning it in 1983 was akin to a foreign interloper taking out the World Series or the Super Bowl.

I suspect your views on the Americas Cup profile reflects more your own narrow perspective. It's always been a fairly niche, and elitist, event, but the combination of big money, high tech, and sailing gives it a prestige that extends way beyond a few yachting aficionados.

Your first two sentences are genuinely laughable. Did you live in coastal San Diego and were you a member of a yachting club?

The reality is the America's Cup has no sporting profile in the US. None.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

If you don't believe me, here's an easy test.

Google "America's Cup".

Notice how all the Kiwi media come up well before any reputable US outlets?

[Ymx]

This is really poor form to spill this drivel on a match thread, for an event which certainly some of us enjoy.

I’m not bothered if the main stream of US or Canada or New Zealand or wherever don’t care about it.

It’s a marvellous event in my opinion so if it’s ok I’ll continue to follow it. And please don’t feel pressured to yourself.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

This is really poor form to spill this drivel on a match thread, for an event which certainly some of us enjoy.

I’m not bothered if the main stream of US or Canada or New Zealand or wherever don’t care about it.

It’s a marvellous event in my opinion so if it’s ok I’ll continue to follow it. And please don’t feel pressured to yourself.

Don't get me wrong. If you love sailing, fill your boots.

But don't pretend for a second that even a million of the 330 000 000 Americans in the states give a fuck about this race.

They simply don't know about it.

I suspect a lot of taxpayers have been sold a lemon.

[Ymx]

For some of Us we don’t really Care what others thinK or know of it.

Or is this still not clear enufF For you?

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

For some of Us we don’t really Care what others thinK or know of it.

Or is this still not clear enufF For you?

Clever wordplay.

As long as Kiwi taxpayers don't have to subsidise this pastime that no one else gives a fuck about, any longer.

[Sandstorm]

Well it's extremely low in France .

The Biggest off shore race is on and I don't believe there is a French challenger this time.

I can see why: Vendee Race is about someone trapped all alone for months in a miserable, damp box with no access to family or friends.....and you could die at any moment. A bit too close for home for everyone else at present to get excited about watching.

[Turbster]

Genuine question: You do know that general public awareness of the America's Cup in the USA is virtually nil, right?

Bollocks Jim!

[Dan54]

This is really poor form to spill this drivel on a match thread, for an event which certainly some of us enjoy.

I’m not bothered if the main stream of US or Canada or New Zealand or wherever don’t care about it.

It’s a marvellous event in my opinion so if it’s ok I’ll continue to follow it. And please don’t feel pressured to yourself.

Don't get me wrong. If you love sailing, fill your boots.

But don't pretend for a second that even a million of the 330 000 000 Americans in the states give a fuck about this race.

They simply don't know about it.

I suspect a lot of taxpayers have been sold a lemon.

So following your logic noone should discuss rugby because f*** all yanks follow it?

[Dan54]

And no I not a yachting fan as such, but watch the odd race or whatever on TV if it comes on, and have no doubt I will watch this. I know these are not purists boats, but I find them fun to watch they go so bloody fast.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

This is really poor form to spill this drivel on a match thread, for an event which certainly some of us enjoy.

I’m not bothered if the main stream of US or Canada or New Zealand or wherever don’t care about it.

It’s a marvellous event in my opinion so if it’s ok I’ll continue to follow it. And please don’t feel pressured to yourself.

Don't get me wrong. If you love sailing, fill your boots.

But don't pretend for a second that even a million of the 330 000 000 Americans in the states give a fuck about this race.

They simply don't know about it.

I suspect a lot of taxpayers have been sold a lemon.

So following your logic noone should discuss rugby because f*** all yanks follow it?

Are the yanks one of our main rivals in rugby?

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

America's Cup: World in awe at Team New Zealand's new boat

[Ghost-Of-Nepia]

We get it, J. You don't like the America's Cup. I don't either, but I don't feel the need to in a thread set up for the event.

[Kiwias]

I'll be watching it whenever I can, though there is next to no interest here in Japan. As for the USA, why should we be even remotely concerned about the level of interest over there?

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

I'll be watching it whenever I can, though there is next to no interest here in Japan. As for the USA, why should we be even remotely concerned about the level of interest over there?

I thought the hint might be in the name. I take GON's point though and will fetch my hat and coat.

Enjoy the racing, gents.

[Enzedder]

USA level of interest now officially halved

United States challenger Stars + Stripes Team USA have officially withdrawn from the 2021 America’s Cup.

Their demise was inevitable as they battled financial problems over the past two years.

They had failed to meet a series of deadlines and their backers at the Long Beach Yacht Club in California officially notified the Royal New Zealand Yacht Club that their challenge had been withdrawn.

The confirmation leaves the fleet at four syndicates. INEOS Team UK, American Magic and Luna Rossa (Italy) contest the Prada Cup challenger series in January and February with the winner of that going on to meet Emirates Team New Zealand in the America’s Cup match in March.

Mike Buckley and Taylor Canfield wanted to be an all-American challenge and even got Cup legend Dennis Conner’s approval to use his Stars + Stripes name.

They purchased a design package from defenders Emirates Team New Zealand for a first-generation AC75 after formally announcing their challenge in late 2018.

That boat was only half-completed as financial realities hit.

[Ymx]

USA level of interest now officially halved

United States challenger Stars + Stripes Team USA have officially withdrawn from the 2021 America’s Cup.

Their demise was inevitable as they battled financial problems over the past two years.

They had failed to meet a series of deadlines and their backers at the Long Beach Yacht Club in California officially notified the Royal New Zealand Yacht Club that their challenge had been withdrawn.

The confirmation leaves the fleet at four syndicates. INEOS Team UK, American Magic and Luna Rossa (Italy) contest the Prada Cup challenger series in January and February with the winner of that going on to meet Emirates Team New Zealand in the America’s Cup match in March.

Mike Buckley and Taylor Canfield wanted to be an all-American challenge and even got Cup legend Dennis Conner’s approval to use his Stars + Stripes name.

They purchased a design package from defenders Emirates Team New Zealand for a first-generation AC75 after formally announcing their challenge in late 2018.

That boat was only half-completed as financial realities hit.

That was a strange one. That team were clearly never going to make it. Never building a boat, nor anything. And not even being written in to the racing schedule were some of the bigger clues.

It’s not like something you can knock together over a weekend. Or even a couple of years for that matter.

[Ymx]

Warm up series coming soon.

https://www.yachtingworld.com/americas- ... 128853/amp

Looks like sky but also YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/americascup

[Ymx]

The boats for the first time have been able to practice on the race this week.

Luna Rossa and ETNZ looking good in the coverage.

Britain (Ainslie) not made it out yet. Sounds like bad technical issues.