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- fishfoodie
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I don't think Manafort would get much value out of a Federal Pardon; as the Justice system expected one, & he's facing a shit load of State level charges too, so a guilty plea to one set, will land him up to his nose in shit, with no possibility of a pardon there.
The right wing nutcases are pushing a legal theory that a Presidential Pardon can cover state charges as well. Wanna bet he's going to try it out?fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:50 pmI don't think Manafort would get much value out of a Federal Pardon; as the Justice system expected one, & he's facing a shit load of State level charges too, so a guilty plea to one set, will land him up to his nose in shit, with no possibility of a pardon there.
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It's one take, they were probably 50/50 on going with that line or going with the idea the President can't pardon someone who was party to a crime the President was complicit inSaint wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:15 pmThe right wing nutcases are pushing a legal theory that a Presidential Pardon can cover state charges as well. Wanna bet he's going to try it out?fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:50 pmI don't think Manafort would get much value out of a Federal Pardon; as the Justice system expected one, & he's facing a shit load of State level charges too, so a guilty plea to one set, will land him up to his nose in shit, with no possibility of a pardon there.
He really is a vindictive cunt.Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:33 pm The outgoing administration's quest to burn everything down before they're hurled into the pile of shit they richly deserve continues with attempts to bring back firing squads and electrocution as a means to carry out the death penalty, shit on the environment and on workers rights.
They are fucking scum, every last one of them. Trump is almost, well he's such an enormous manchild that you can understand why he dies what he dies, but the rest of them are just plain evil. And dull corporate, soulless evil at that. Wretched pricks, damaging their country because they can and because they are inured to the damage they cause by long custom.
Mind you, I'm told that Biden is just as bad.
Someone close to him I take it?Rinkals wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:55 amHe really is a vindictive cunt.Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:33 pm The outgoing administration's quest to burn everything down before they're hurled into the pile of shit they richly deserve continues with attempts to bring back firing squads and electrocution as a means to carry out the death penalty, shit on the environment and on workers rights.
They are fucking scum, every last one of them. Trump is almost, well he's such an enormous manchild that you can understand why he dies what he dies, but the rest of them are just plain evil. And dull corporate, soulless evil at that. Wretched pricks, damaging their country because they can and because they are inured to the damage they cause by long custom.
Mind you, I'm told that Biden is just as bad
Probably HunterSaintK wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:41 amSomeone close to him I take it?Rinkals wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:55 amHe really is a vindictive cunt.Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:33 pm The outgoing administration's quest to burn everything down before they're hurled into the pile of shit they richly deserve continues with attempts to bring back firing squads and electrocution as a means to carry out the death penalty, shit on the environment and on workers rights.
They are fucking scum, every last one of them. Trump is almost, well he's such an enormous manchild that you can understand why he dies what he dies, but the rest of them are just plain evil. And dull corporate, soulless evil at that. Wretched pricks, damaging their country because they can and because they are inured to the damage they cause by long custom.
Mind you, I'm told that Biden is just as bad
I sincerely hope you mean December, or January at the very latest. In fact, I think anywhere from the 1st to the 18th would be spiffing.Rinkals wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:47 amIt's a damn sight more than I expected him to give.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:30 amWhoa folks! You think he's finished yet? Not a chance!Rinkals wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:59 am Am I the only one who's a little bit disappointed?
I was rather hoping for the drama of him being dragged out by the ankles in January.
"I am working with the transition team, but they are fighting me on blah, blah, best ever, blah blah"
Just noticing the photos of him playing golf: He seems to have slimmed down a tad.
As we can be pretty sure he hasn't departed from his junk food diet, the suspicion arises that he has been suffering the effects of the covids; it can't be worry about what will happen when the Deutsche Bank forecloses and Vlad wants his investment returned.
I wouldn't be terribly surprised to read that he had expired on the eighteenth.

Eighteenth fairway. (or the rough beside it).Ted. wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:21 amI sincerely hope you mean December, or January at the very latest. In fact, I think anywhere from the 1st to the 18th would be spiffing.Rinkals wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:47 amIt's a damn sight more than I expected him to give.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:30 am
Whoa folks! You think he's finished yet? Not a chance!
"I am working with the transition team, but they are fighting me on blah, blah, best ever, blah blah"
Just noticing the photos of him playing golf: He seems to have slimmed down a tad.
As we can be pretty sure he hasn't departed from his junk food diet, the suspicion arises that he has been suffering the effects of the covids; it can't be worry about what will happen when the Deutsche Bank forecloses and Vlad wants his investment returned.
I wouldn't be terribly surprised to read that he had expired on the eighteenth.![]()
Quite!Rinkals wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:46 amEighteenth fairway. (or the rough beside it).Ted. wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:21 amI sincerely hope you mean December, or January at the very latest. In fact, I think anywhere from the 1st to the 18th would be spiffing.Rinkals wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:47 am
It's a damn sight more than I expected him to give.
Just noticing the photos of him playing golf: He seems to have slimmed down a tad.
As we can be pretty sure he hasn't departed from his junk food diet, the suspicion arises that he has been suffering the effects of the covids; it can't be worry about what will happen when the Deutsche Bank forecloses and Vlad wants his investment returned.
I wouldn't be terribly surprised to read that he had expired on the eighteenth.![]()
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“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
- Insane_Homer
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“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”

Says a Trump appointed judge. That's just how ridiculous these lawsuits are - even a theoretical sycophant can't allow them to go forward
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Interesting how Orange Cunt couched his words about leaving the White House with "if". Makes you wonder what dictator truck he will try next.
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Maybe the wormtongues are telling him that they can get enough faithless votes in the EC to vote against their States votes, that he can yet be elected ?Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:02 pm Interesting how Orange Cunt couched his words about leaving the White House with "if". Makes you wonder what dictator truck he will try next.
It's fantasy, but it's exactly the kind of shite you'd expect his fluffers to tell him.
This one might workHal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:02 pm Interesting how Orange Cunt couched his words about leaving the White House with "if". Makes you wonder what dictator truck he will try next.

In addition, one of the recounts in Wisconsin, which cost Trump’s campaign $3m, has resulted in a net gain in votes for Joe Biden.Saint wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:39 pmSays a Trump appointed judge. That's just how ridiculous these lawsuits are - even a theoretical sycophant can't allow them to go forward
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It's the sort of genius that led to his business successes.
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What happens if that happens?fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:06 pmMaybe the wormtongues are telling him that they can get enough faithless votes in the EC to vote against their States votes, that he can yet be elected ?Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:02 pm Interesting how Orange Cunt couched his words about leaving the White House with "if". Makes you wonder what dictator truck he will try next.
It's fantasy, but it's exactly the kind of shite you'd expect his fluffers to tell him.
Can it happen?
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It can happen, there would be legal challenges, and there would be some civil unrest. But who knows what happensUncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:22 pmWhat happens if that happens?fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:06 pmMaybe the wormtongues are telling him that they can get enough faithless votes in the EC to vote against their States votes, that he can yet be elected ?Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:02 pm Interesting how Orange Cunt couched his words about leaving the White House with "if". Makes you wonder what dictator truck he will try next.
It's fantasy, but it's exactly the kind of shite you'd expect his fluffers to tell him.
Can it happen?
It's certainly something he is trying to do - it's part of the reason for the 'hearings' being staged in the battleground states he lost - peddling lots of accusations and dodgy stuff to those there - trying to build up more pressure on the local Republican officials.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:22 pmWhat happens if that happens?fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:06 pmMaybe the wormtongues are telling him that they can get enough faithless votes in the EC to vote against their States votes, that he can yet be elected ?Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:02 pm Interesting how Orange Cunt couched his words about leaving the White House with "if". Makes you wonder what dictator truck he will try next.
It's fantasy, but it's exactly the kind of shite you'd expect his fluffers to tell him.
Can it happen?
But, the number of EC votes he'd need to steal is too high and the officials aren't as corrupt as he is.
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Diaper Don should have a word with the chap who appointed that judge, Donnie has been cruelly undermined
- fishfoodie
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It's all part of Baldrick ... I mean Rudy's cunning plan !Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:34 pmDiaper Don should have a word with the chap who appointed that judge, Donnie has been cruelly undermined
He wants to fail upward; to get his date before SCOTUS.
I'd say there's a few Conservative Justices who'll need Diapers themselves if that date arrives; they'll have to make the biggest choice of their careers; & live with the consequences
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Will SCOTUS even hear his case? I know he's the President but surely they have actual work to be getting on with? Most courts are badly backed up, but if they do choose to find the time to listen to Rudy I've not much sympathy for any claims about a backlog
I think there us a reasonable chance that they may choose to hear it - but at this stage it would purely be so that they can destroy Rudy and make it clear that this sort of BS won't be tolerated in futureRhubarb & Custard wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:19 am Will SCOTUS even hear his case? I know he's the President but surely they have actual work to be getting on with? Most courts are badly backed up, but if they do choose to find the time to listen to Rudy I've not much sympathy for any claims about a backlog
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They'll get that chance when someone asks them if Donnie can pardon himselfSaint wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:25 amI think there us a reasonable chance that they may choose to hear it - but at this stage it would purely be so that they can destroy Rudy and make it clear that this sort of BS won't be tolerated in futureRhubarb & Custard wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:19 am Will SCOTUS even hear his case? I know he's the President but surely they have actual work to be getting on with? Most courts are badly backed up, but if they do choose to find the time to listen to Rudy I've not much sympathy for any claims about a backlog
What consequences? They have a lifetime position on the supreme court and three of the conservative judges owe nothing to Trump. The longer standing ones will judge according to law for sure. Rudy will be destroyed.fishfoodie wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:40 pmIt's all part of Baldrick ... I mean Rudy's cunning plan !Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:34 pmDiaper Don should have a word with the chap who appointed that judge, Donnie has been cruelly undermined
He wants to fail upward; to get his date before SCOTUS.
I'd say there's a few Conservative Justices who'll need Diapers themselves if that date arrives; they'll have to make the biggest choice of their careers; & live with the consequences
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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the consequence that if they act in a blatantly political way; then the legislator gets to take actions to depoliticize the court. That might mean seeking to impeach a Justice, or imposing term limits, (which they should anyway), or packing the court.Biffer wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:37 amWhat consequences? They have a lifetime position on the supreme court and three of the conservative judges owe nothing to Trump. The longer standing ones will judge according to law for sure. Rudy will be destroyed.fishfoodie wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:40 pmIt's all part of Baldrick ... I mean Rudy's cunning plan !Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:34 pm
Diaper Don should have a word with the chap who appointed that judge, Donnie has been cruelly undermined
He wants to fail upward; to get his date before SCOTUS.
I'd say there's a few Conservative Justices who'll need Diapers themselves if that date arrives; they'll have to make the biggest choice of their careers; & live with the consequences
I tend to agree the conservatives won't want to have to vote against Trump; hence the diapers
I think the SCOTUS will see other potential consequences, for the country, if they are seen to undermine an election that saw Biden win by over 6M votes and 70+ electoral votes. It would basically make elections/democracy impossible and run the risk of mass civil disobedience.fishfoodie wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:45 amthe consequence that if they act in a blatantly political way; then the legislator gets to take actions to depoliticize the court. That might mean seeking to impeach a Justice, or imposing term limits, (which they should anyway), or packing the court.Biffer wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:37 amWhat consequences? They have a lifetime position on the supreme court and three of the conservative judges owe nothing to Trump. The longer standing ones will judge according to law for sure. Rudy will be destroyed.fishfoodie wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:40 pm
It's all part of Baldrick ... I mean Rudy's cunning plan !
He wants to fail upward; to get his date before SCOTUS.
I'd say there's a few Conservative Justices who'll need Diapers themselves if that date arrives; they'll have to make the biggest choice of their careers; & live with the consequences
I tend to agree the conservatives won't want to have to vote against Trump; hence the diapers