The Brexit Thread

[Bimbowomxn]

Irony mode switched off then?

He's even worse at spotting sarcasm, but when at Karenbot level, it's not surprising.

Unfortunately As I’ve stated before I post straight with you and other, considering things you post in earnest I’ll not pick out the ones that are sarcastic.

[Insane_Homer]

Unfortunately As I’ve stated before I post straight with you and other*, considering things you post in earnest I’ll not pick out the ones that are sarcastic.

*Except for those times when you make shit up, continually attribute reports as the poster direct statement and call people names? Straight my arse

[Insane_Homer]

[Longshanks]

Both sides moving closer to a deal
Britain has reduced its demand on fish in UK waters to 60%*. Still no where near what EU offered.

Edit
*according to EU sources

[fishfoodie]

Meanwhile, the UK plans on further breaking of International Law.

Mr Barnier told EU ambassadors this morning that if the proposed Finance Bill contained clauses which "breached international law" there would be a complete breakdown in trust between both sides.

He delivered the blunt warning near the end of a briefing of member states this morning on the state of play in the negotiations.

There have been reports that the UK Finance Bill, expected next week, would contain clauses which gave British ministers the powers to decide unilaterally on elements of the Northern Ireland Protocol, such as the potential imposition of tariffs on goods moving from Britain to Northern Ireland.

[Bimbowomxn]

Meanwhile, the UK plans on further breaking of International Law.

Mr Barnier told EU ambassadors this morning that if the proposed Finance Bill contained clauses which "breached international law" there would be a complete breakdown in trust between both sides.

He delivered the blunt warning near the end of a briefing of member states this morning on the state of play in the negotiations.

There have been reports that the UK Finance Bill, expected next week, would contain clauses which gave British ministers the powers to decide unilaterally on elements of the Northern Ireland Protocol, such as the potential imposition of tariffs on goods moving from Britain to Northern Ireland.

No, it removed powers for the EU to break up the UK internal market. It will be dropped as it was a simple warning shot regarding the future and interference from Brussels in the UK.

Let’s pray for a no deal now, the EU and rampant nationalism in the South of Ireland cannot be trusted.

[Longshanks]

Meanwhile, the UK plans on further breaking of International Law.

Mr Barnier told EU ambassadors this morning that if the proposed Finance Bill contained clauses which "breached international law" there would be a complete breakdown in trust between both sides.

He delivered the blunt warning near the end of a briefing of member states this morning on the state of play in the negotiations.

There have been reports that the UK Finance Bill, expected next week, would contain clauses which gave British ministers the powers to decide unilaterally on elements of the Northern Ireland Protocol, such as the potential imposition of tariffs on goods moving from Britain to Northern Ireland.

No, it removed powers for the EU to break up the UK internal market. It will be dropped as it was a simple warning shot regarding the future and interference from Brussels in the UK.

I'm afraid not

"Our position on the clauses remains unchanged," the spokesman told reporters. "We set out the rationale for why we needed the clauses in order to provide a legal safety net and to protect the integrity of the UK's internal market."

[Bimbowomxn]

Meanwhile, the UK plans on further breaking of International Law.

No, it removed powers for the EU to break up the UK internal market. It will be dropped as it was a simple warning shot regarding the future and interference from Brussels in the UK.

I'm afraid not

"Our position on the clauses remains unchanged," the spokesman told reporters. "We set out the rationale for why we needed the clauses in order to provide a legal safety net and to protect the integrity of the UK's internal market."

Silly. Unless it’s a dog and pony show which we “give” the clauses up for the EU “giving” something back.

Also irrelevant if there’s a no deal.

[Longshanks]

Could be playing to Brexiteers, but considering what the EU have said about their position, this is suppose to end the talks.
Will either side see it through?

[Bimbowomxn]

Could be playing to Brexiteers, but considering what the EU have said about their position, this is suppose to end the talks.
Will either side see it through?

The interesting issue is the clauses (only come into action post enormous future bad faith by the EU) seem so important to the EU unless they’re planning an enormous bad faith action, or the UK which don’t have to put the clauses though now and could put them into law any time in the future is required .

Meh , dog and pony show.

[Longshanks]

We'll see Bimbo
I think Boris wants a deal but knows he is going to struggle to sell it to his own party. Therefore no deal is looking the more likely every hour that passes

[Bimbowomxn]

We'll see Bimbo
I think Boris wants a deal but knows he is going to struggle to sell it to his own party. Therefore no deal is looking the more likely every hour that passes

Yep, I reckon they’ll be another extension. Put it this way the responses we are now getting on customs are cursory or “don’t worry till next Sept” rather than last years , “do this, do that, prepare this” so I don’t think it’s a serious risk or they’re genuinely going to have no restrictions on EU imports unilaterally (breaks WTO rules).

[Rinkals]

Anyone who fails to recognise that circumstances have changed significantly in the last nine months or so is deluded.

Still. Brexit means Brexit, I guess.

[Longshanks]

This is good news

Live animal exports to be banned in England and Wales

Sending live animals abroad for slaughter will be banned in England and Wales under new government plans.

Environment Secretary George Eustice said the ban could be in force by the end of 2021 in a post-Brexit break from EU trade rules.

The RSPCA welcomed the move, saying it would be "a landmark achievement for animal welfare".

So much for the UK having lower standards......

[Longshanks]

UK "warned" that deal must be reached by Friday.......

It's not going to happen is it?

[Yeeb]

UK "warned" that deal must be reached by Friday.......

It's not going to happen is it?

Yes, the UK responds favourably to warnings ....

[Biffer]

This is good news

Live animal exports to be banned in England and Wales

Sending live animals abroad for slaughter will be banned in England and Wales under new government plans.

Environment Secretary George Eustice said the ban could be in force by the end of 2021 in a post-Brexit break from EU trade rules.

The RSPCA welcomed the move, saying it would be "a landmark achievement for animal welfare".

So much for the UK having lower standards......

What about importing them

[Longshanks]

This is good news

Live animal exports to be banned in England and Wales

Sending live animals abroad for slaughter will be banned in England and Wales under new government plans.

Environment Secretary George Eustice said the ban could be in force by the end of 2021 in a post-Brexit break from EU trade rules.

The RSPCA welcomed the move, saying it would be "a landmark achievement for animal welfare".

So much for the UK having lower standards......

What about importing them

Who knows
The EU should ban the practice too, as should the whole world.

[Biffer]

This is good news





So much for the UK having lower standards......

What about importing them

Who knows
The EU should ban the practice too, as should the whole world.

Just seems if we don't do both, we're happy for our own people to eat animals who have been put through the transport to be killed, but not for Europeans etc to do it. Would be a bit of an odd stance.

[Longshanks]

What about importing them

Who knows
The EU should ban the practice too, as should the whole world.

Just seems if we don't do both, we're happy for our own people to eat animals who have been put through the transport to be killed, but not for Europeans etc to do it. Would be a bit of an odd stance.

I'm not arguing with that. But it's like stopping people smoking, you have to start somewhere, even if there are inconsistencies in the approach.

[Insane_Homer]

North Fucking Macedonia

Harah!!! We're saved

[Northern Lights]

I think a deal might be imminent, journalists are circling.

[Longshanks]

Or is no deal...

[Northern Lights]

Or is no deal...

Vibe very much that there’s a deal.

Could of course yet collapse but sounding more positive

[Longshanks]

Or is no deal...

Vibe very much that there’s a deal.

Could of course yet collapse but sounding more positive

Beeb suggesting it's looking unlikely a deal will be made.

[Northern Lights]

Or is no deal...

Vibe very much that there’s a deal.

Could of course yet collapse but sounding more positive

Beeb suggesting it's looking unlikely a deal will be made.

Multiple other inquiries suggest otherwise, the beeb are hedging their bets as they are scouting too. Likely announcement early next week.

Expect lots of empty rhetoric in the meantime.

It’s likely to be a pretty flimsy deal as well.

[tabascoboy]

[Hal Jordan]

I reckon Johnson will be desperate to get a deal so he can quit having been the PM who "delivered Brexit and beat Covid".

[fishfoodie]

I reckon Johnson will be desperate to get a deal so he can quit having been the PM who "delivered Brexit and beat Covid".

Fishing was always a bullshit obstacle; the real issues are the Level Playing Field, & Governance, i.e. will the UK agree to the judgement from an EU Court.

I can't see the bumblecunts Leadership surviving a concession on either of those; particularly the latter, & we all know that his survival is the only thing that matters.

[JM2K6]

[Bimbowomxn]

I reckon Johnson will be desperate to get a deal so he can quit having been the PM who "delivered Brexit and beat Covid".

Fishing was always a bullshit obstacle; the real issues are the Level Playing Field, & Governance, i.e. will the UK agree to the judgement from an EU Court.

I can't see the bumblecunts Leadership surviving a concession on either of those; particularly the latter, & we all know that his survival is the only thing that matters.

You say the bit about an EU court ruling over the Uk in the future as if that’s totally reasonable.... it isn’t it’s not part of any trade agreement anywhere in the world. It cannot be signed as it would tie a future parliaments hands literally.

No leader could / should survive that.

[Paddington Bear]

I reckon Johnson will be desperate to get a deal so he can quit having been the PM who "delivered Brexit and beat Covid".

Fishing was always a bullshit obstacle; the real issues are the Level Playing Field, & Governance, i.e. will the UK agree to the judgement from an EU Court.

I can't see the bumblecunts Leadership surviving a concession on either of those; particularly the latter, & we all know that his survival is the only thing that matters.

EU Court judgement is a genuine sticking point, and not an unreasonable one.

[Longshanks]

I reckon Johnson will be desperate to get a deal so he can quit having been the PM who "delivered Brexit and beat Covid".

Fishing was always a bullshit obstacle; the real issues are the Level Playing Field, & Governance, i.e. will the UK agree to the judgement from an EU Court.

I can't see the bumblecunts Leadership surviving a concession on either of those; particularly the latter, & we all know that his survival is the only thing that matters.

You say the bit about an EU court ruling over the Uk in the future as if that’s totally reasonable.... it isn’t it’s not part of any trade agreement anywhere in the world. It cannot be signed as it would tie a future parliaments hands literally.

No leader could / should survive that.

It looks like the EU have dropped the demand that ECJ is involved in disputes. Redress through the UK courts for EU

[Longshanks]

Also not far from resolving state aid. Independent agency in UK for that.

[Longshanks]

All about fish now......

[tabascoboy]

All about fish now......

Things must be getting tench

I'll get me coat

[Longshanks]

All about fish now......

Things must be getting tench

I'll get me coat

Don't worry
It's salmon else's fault

[westport]

All about fish now......

The French wanted to ignore the 12-mile limit so that they could continue to fish within 6 miles of our shoreline.

[GogLais]

Fishing was always a bullshit obstacle; the real issues are the Level Playing Field, & Governance, i.e. will the UK agree to the judgement from an EU Court.

I can't see the bumblecunts Leadership surviving a concession on either of those; particularly the latter, & we all know that his survival is the only thing that matters.

You say the bit about an EU court ruling over the Uk in the future as if that’s totally reasonable.... it isn’t it’s not part of any trade agreement anywhere in the world. It cannot be signed as it would tie a future parliaments hands literally.

No leader could / should survive that.

It looks like the EU have dropped the demand that ECJ is involved in disputes. Redress through the UK courts for EU

I was going to say that bigger and better minds than mine will have thought about this but why couldn’t a new UK/EU court be set up to deal with trade issues?

[Longshanks]

You say the bit about an EU court ruling over the Uk in the future as if that’s totally reasonable.... it isn’t it’s not part of any trade agreement anywhere in the world. It cannot be signed as it would tie a future parliaments hands literally.

No leader could / should survive that.

It looks like the EU have dropped the demand that ECJ is involved in disputes. Redress through the UK courts for EU

I was going to say that bigger and better minds than mine will have thought about this but why couldn’t a new UK/EU court be set up to deal with trade issues?

Because both sides have great legal systems anyway. This was a bit about keeping control on the UK, the EU are nervous about its departure.
Boris still insisting that no ground will be given on UK taking control of its waters. But of more significance is the fact that the controversial clauses in the IMB removed by the Lords, are going back in.
Coveney said that EU will not sign off a deal if they are still there.
Markets think there will be a deal though