President Trump and US politics catchall

[Hal Jordan]

I see the next step is the Insurrection Act, "Marshall Law" and "succession" from the USA to form the Red States of Rasciststan.

And Trump refused to attend his own Christmas party. What a fucking baby.

[Rinkals]

Not having standing to bring a case, and obviously not having having that, is more than a procedural misstep. There's a reason the only lawyer willing to sign it is a crazy old racist birther.

If they were serious about defending their democracy, it would have been quashed in no uncertain terms.

This way they allow those that backed this action justification for doing so.

[fishfoodie]

Not having standing to bring a case, and obviously not having having that, is more than a procedural misstep. There's a reason the only lawyer willing to sign it is a crazy old racist birther.

If they were serious about defending their democracy, it would have been quashed in no uncertain terms.

This way they allow those that backed this action justification for doing so.

It was quashed in, "no uncertain terms".

If there was any shred of validity in the claims; they would have taken the cases in the States they claimed there was illegality; but there isn't so they couldn't. So instead they went to one of the most corrupt States there is & cobbled together with a mixture of lies & graft, a bullshit case that SCOTUS said didn't even warrant their consideration.

[Rinkals]

Well, it looks to me like it was overturned on a technicality.

This gives the backers who brought this to court justification and gives the impression that the case might have been upheld if the process had been followed properly.

The fact is that this was nothing less than an attempted coup and it should have been treated as such.

[fishfoodie]

Well, it looks to me like it was overturned on a technicality.

This gives the backers who brought this to court justification and gives the impression that the case might have been upheld if the process had been followed properly.

The fact is that this was nothing less than an attempted coup and it should have been treated as such.

It wasn't overturned because of a technicality. The court found that there was no case; because there was no injury. That's effectively what the court saying the States had no standing means.

It's like me making a complaint about a theft, when I wasn't either of the parties involved, & in fact, the both parties were happy with the exchange.

The thick fucks who support this farce will feel aggrieved regardless, so it's pointless to think otherwise.

[GogLais]

Well, it looks to me like it was overturned on a technicality.

This gives the backers who brought this to court justification and gives the impression that the case might have been upheld if the process had been followed properly.

The fact is that this was nothing less than an attempted coup and it should have been treated as such.

If it’s fallen at the first the SCOTUS doesn’t have to let the jockey remount. I hope that’s an appropriate analogy.

[Ata Rangi]

Fish was close enough.

[fishfoodie]

There have to be consequences from all this shit; it can't just be a one way bet to pander to the orange arsehole, & try and keep sweet with his, "base"

[Uncle fester]

Not having standing to bring a case, and obviously not having having that, is more than a procedural misstep. There's a reason the only lawyer willing to sign it is a crazy old racist birther.

If they were serious about defending their democracy, it would have been quashed in no uncertain terms.

This way they allow those that backed this action justification for doing so.

It doesn't matter what they do. The dumb Fuchs who believe the conspiracy theory will believe that no matter what.

[Slick]

There have to be consequences from all this shit; it can't just be a one way bet to pander to the orange arsehole, & try and keep sweet with his, "base"

I like this

[Uncle fester]

Trouble is that the militia types will use stuff line that as "proof" of how they are being opposed and their casus belli for initiating armed conflict.

[fishfoodie]

Trouble is that the militia types will use stuff line that as "proof" of how they are being opposed and their casus belli for initiating armed conflict.

No Government should ever, not enforce a Nations Laws because of a tiny number of nutters who threaten to break those Laws.

[Uncle fester]

With most Republicans believing the election was dodgy and the armaments stocked by the general population, I'd be thinking realpolitik and try to defuse the situation.

Look at Spanish civil war and how it started to see how things can get out of hand very quickly.

[Ata Rangi]

Trouble is that the militia types will use stuff line that as "proof" of how they are being opposed and their casus belli for initiating armed conflict.

Yep. Threatening to use a narrow majority to attempt to deprive electors of the services of their duly elected Article 1 Representatives for supporting the resolution of a Constitutional issue relating to the election of the Article 2 by the relevant Article 3 body. Sounds grand.

[Slick]

Well, it looks to me like it was overturned on a technicality.

This gives the backers who brought this to court justification and gives the impression that the case might have been upheld if the process had been followed properly.

The fact is that this was nothing less than an attempted coup and it should have been treated as such.

Can you just read one trustworthy news source before posting in future?

[Enzedder]

The fact is that this was nothing less than an attempted coup and it should have been treated as such.

I think that this is a con is closer to the mark.

[Ted.]

Not having standing to bring a case, and obviously not having having that, is more than a procedural misstep. There's a reason the only lawyer willing to sign it is a crazy old racist birther.

If they were serious about defending their democracy, it would have been quashed in no uncertain terms.

This way they allow those that backed this action justification for doing so.

It was quashed in, "no uncertain terms".

If there was any shred of validity in the claims; they would have taken the cases in the States they claimed there was illegality; but there isn't so they couldn't. So instead they went to one of the most corrupt States there is & cobbled together with a mixture of lies & graft, a bullshit case that SCOTUS said didn't even warrant their consideration.

Precisely.

IMO, that SCOTUS will not get involved in a political bunfight is a good thing.

[Rinkals]

Well, it looks to me like it was overturned on a technicality.

This gives the backers who brought this to court justification and gives the impression that the case might have been upheld if the process had been followed properly.

The fact is that this was nothing less than an attempted coup and it should have been treated as such.

If it’s fallen at the first the SCOTUS doesn’t have to let the jockey remount. I hope that’s an appropriate analogy.

Anyone can fall off a horse.

If it was a hopeless nag with zero chance of winning and the reason it fell down dead is that you'd overdosed it with viagra, then that would surely be a crime and should be treated as such.

[Ted.]

With most Republicans believing the election was dodgy and the armaments stocked by the general population, I'd be thinking realpolitik and try to defuse the situation.

Look at Spanish civil war and how it started to see how things can get out of hand very quickly.

Lawlessness is you solution to lawlessness. That'll work.

[Ted.]

Well, it looks to me like it was overturned on a technicality.

This gives the backers who brought this to court justification and gives the impression that the case might have been upheld if the process had been followed properly.

The fact is that this was nothing less than an attempted coup and it should have been treated as such.

If it’s fallen at the first the SCOTUS doesn’t have to let the jockey remount. I hope that’s an appropriate analogy.

Anyone can fall off a horse.

If it was a hopeless nag with zero chance of winning and the reason it fell down dead is that you'd overdosed it with viagra, then that would surely be a crime and should be treated as such.

You are missing the point, Rinkals. Miss it by a huge margin too.

[Torquemada 1420]

Trouble is that the militia types will use stuff line that as "proof" of how they are being opposed and their casus belli for initiating armed conflict.

Part of me thinks if yanks want to blow each other to hell, good luck.

[Biffer]

Trouble is that the militia types will use stuff line that as "proof" of how they are being opposed and their casus belli for initiating armed conflict.

Part of me thinks if yanks want to blow each other to hell, good luck.

Shit take though. They'd take the rest of us with them one way or another.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

This one is good enough to be shared cross-boreds.

https://twitter.com/PaulLeeTeeks/status ... 5464263681

[GogLais]

Trouble is that the militia types will use stuff line that as "proof" of how they are being opposed and their casus belli for initiating armed conflict.

Part of me thinks if yanks want to blow each other to hell, good luck.

I feel that to some extent but if there has to be a superpower in the world, I prefer the USA to some of the other candidates.

[Rinkals]

If it’s fallen at the first the SCOTUS doesn’t have to let the jockey remount. I hope that’s an appropriate analogy.

Anyone can fall off a horse.

If it was a hopeless nag with zero chance of winning and the reason it fell down dead is that you'd overdosed it with viagra, then that would surely be a crime and should be treated as such.

You are missing the point, Rinkals. Miss it by a huge margin too.

I'm saying that this was an attempted coup.

[Ted.]

Anyone can fall off a horse.

If it was a hopeless nag with zero chance of winning and the reason it fell down dead is that you'd overdosed it with viagra, then that would surely be a crime and should be treated as such.

You are missing the point, Rinkals. Miss it by a huge margin too.

I'm saying that this was an attempted coup.

Yes. The courts loaded with shonky lawyers, trying to politicise those very same courts, being the weapon of choice.

If you want a political solution, look at Congress, not the courts - which IMO are politicised enough in the US without wishing to make them more so. That's a very greasy slope.

[Torquemada 1420]

Trouble is that the militia types will use stuff line that as "proof" of how they are being opposed and their casus belli for initiating armed conflict.

Part of me thinks if yanks want to blow each other to hell, good luck.

Shit take though. They'd take the rest of us with them one way or another.

Mehh. Not convinced of that. Smells of usual pattern or decline and death of an empire. Just Rome with 1/100th of the culture and contribution to the world.

[Biffer]

Part of me thinks if yanks want to blow each other to hell, good luck.

Shit take though. They'd take the rest of us with them one way or another.

Mehh. Not convinced of that. Smells of usual pattern or decline and death of an empire. Just Rome with 1/100th of the culture and contribution to the world.

When the Western roman empire collapsed Europe entered the dark ages.

[Glaston]

How is Biden/Harris Time magaxine "Person's of the Year"?
Seriously, win an election against a twat and you are person of the year, thats a low bar for winning,

[Kiwias]

How is Biden/Harris Time magaxine "Person's of the Year"?
Seriously, win an election against a twat and you are person of the year, thats a low bar for winning,

How do you rate it in comparison with Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize?

[Torquemada 1420]

Shit take though. They'd take the rest of us with them one way or another.

Mehh. Not convinced of that. Smells of usual pattern or decline and death of an empire. Just Rome with 1/100th of the culture and contribution to the world.

When the Western roman empire collapsed Europe entered the dark ages.

Irony being that amongst the causes oft cited for the commencing of the dark ages was the rejection of reason: at least partly driven by religious nuts

[JM2K6]

Tbf the dark ages weren't what the name suggests

[Torquemada 1420]

Tbf the dark ages weren't what the name suggests

That is a very long and contentious debate. I guess it depends on whether we are talking of absence of info or suggesting that "barbarians" really were any such thing culturally.

[MungoMan]

Tbf the dark ages weren't what the name suggests

True. Pasty fucks filled all the starring roles.

[Biffer]

Tbf the dark ages weren't what the name suggests

That’s not so much a new thread as a whole new board.

[Uncle fester]

Tbf the dark ages weren't what the name suggests

Exactly. Western Roman Empire was rotten to the core anyway.

[Biffer]

Tbf the dark ages weren't what the name suggests

Exactly. Western Roman Empire was rotten to the core anyway.

Hang on, there might be a connection there. Give me a minute to think about it.

[Fangle]

With most Republicans believing the election was dodgy and the armaments stocked by the general population, I'd be thinking realpolitik and try to defuse the situation.

Look at Spanish civil war and how it started to see how things can get out of hand very quickly.

I really doubt that it’s most Republicans. I would suggest a loud small minority. The rest want to get on with life, and maybe think of the midterm elections to take control of congress.

[GogLais]

With most Republicans believing the election was dodgy and the armaments stocked by the general population, I'd be thinking realpolitik and try to defuse the situation.

Look at Spanish civil war and how it started to see how things can get out of hand very quickly.

I really doubt that it’s most Republicans. I would suggest a loud small minority. The rest want to get on with life, and maybe think of the midterm elections to take control of congress.

I know it's a bit like this bloke on the pub told me but I heard/read of a poll a week or so ago that reckoned 70% of Republicans thought they'd been cheated.

[Biffer]

With most Republicans believing the election was dodgy and the armaments stocked by the general population, I'd be thinking realpolitik and try to defuse the situation.

Look at Spanish civil war and how it started to see how things can get out of hand very quickly.

I really doubt that it’s most Republicans. I would suggest a loud small minority. The rest want to get on with life, and maybe think of the midterm elections to take control of congress.

I know it's a bit like this bloke on the pub told me but I heard/read of a poll a week or so ago that reckoned 70% of Republicans thought they'd been cheated.

So given about 29% of registered voters are republican, and there’s something like 160 million registered voters, that’s about 32.5 million people. About 10% of the population.

Always have to watch how stats are presented.