President Trump and US politics catchall

[Hal Jordan]

If Trump dies now the QAnon mob will go so far round the conspiracy theory bend they will end up back in the box marked "Not insane".

[Sinkers]

More pardons - Manafort, Stone and Jared’s dad

[Slick]

More pardons - Manafort, Stone and Jared’s dad

After Manafort and Stone being told they would get pardons if they stopped working with the Russia enquiry. It doesn’t get much more corrupt than that but we are so far down the line with Trump it just gets waved through

[Hal Jordan]

And he vetoes a pay rise for the military, and I would hazard a guess that it's payback for them not voting for him in sufficient numbers, and not supporting his martial law idea.

Christ knows what his new AG will attempt.

Fuck the GOP for sitting there, like the supine whores they are.

[Hal Jordan]

More pardons - Manafort, Stone and Jared’s dad

After Manafort and Stone being told they would get pardons if they stopped working with the Russia enquiry. It doesn’t get much more corrupt than that but we are so far down the line with Trump it just gets waved through

Although as I understand it, anyone who is pardoned can no longer plead the 5th Amendment, so there's some juicy questions to be asked.

[Rinkals]

I was interested to see that a couple of his enablers at Deutsche Bank had resigned.

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/world ... -on-trump/

I suspect that Trump is going to be in financial trouble come the end of January.

[Ted.]

I was interested to see that a couple of his enablers at Deutsche Bank had resigned.

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/world ... -on-trump/

I suspect that Trump is going to be in financial trouble come the end of January.

I'm not sure about that, he has a great line in donations, raking in squillions at the moment.

[Hal Jordan]

Yes, but he burns through cash like someone else is paying...

His entire life has been based on other people's money.

[Saint]

More pardons - Manafort, Stone and Jared’s dad

After Manafort and Stone being told they would get pardons if they stopped working with the Russia enquiry. It doesn’t get much more corrupt than that but we are so far down the line with Trump it just gets waved through

Although as I understand it, anyone who is pardoned can no longer plead the 5th Amendment, so there's some juicy questions to be asked.

Provided there's no state level offenses that they might be opened up to

[Rinkals]

Looking at Trump's behaviour over the last few weeks, I'm wondering whether those who claimed that, while they didn't support Trump, they felt that Biden was just as bad or possibly worse given the fact that Biden is of advanced years and the worry that socialists would assume control in the event of his demise, don't have second thoughts.

I'm not getting at anyone on the bored: just wondering if any of the 74 million who voted for him might have reconsidered.

[Saint]

Trump's Christmas gift to the nation is his refusal to sign the Covid Relief Bill into law, leaving around 14 million without unemployment benefits or relief cheques.

Partial government shutdown starts Tuesday

[Hal Jordan]

Car bomb in Nashville, I see. Appears to be the work of a mentally disturbed lone wolf, thankfully.

[Rinkals]

Trump's Christmas gift to the nation is his refusal to sign the Covid Relief Bill into law, leaving around 14 million without unemployment benefits or relief cheques.

Partial government shutdown starts Tuesday

Retribution for them not voting for him.

Not unexpected.

[Biffer]

Car bomb in Nashville, I see. Appears to be the work of a mentally disturbed lone wolf, thankfully.

That’s one of those irregular nouns isn’t it?

[Hal Jordan]

Trump's Christmas gift to the nation is his refusal to sign the Covid Relief Bill into law, leaving around 14 million without unemployment benefits or relief cheques.

Partial government shutdown starts Tuesday

Retribution for them not voting for him.

Not unexpected.

And it'll hit his cult hard, and they'll ask for another like an initiate at a secret society, the morons.

[Dinsdale Piranha]

Car bomb in Nashville, I see. Appears to be the work of a mentally disturbed lone wolf, thankfully.

[Hal Jordan]

Bomber - suicide bomber - identified as Anthony Warner, IT specialist and apparent 5G conspiracy theorist, making the choice of AT&T logical (for a headcase). Now, I wonder which bunch of sad sack weirdos pushes 5G?

[fishfoodie]

Bomber - suicide bomber - identified as Anthony Warner, IT specialist and apparent 5G conspiracy theorist, making the choice of AT&T logical (for a headcase). Now, I wonder which bunch of sad sack weirdos pushes 5G?

Much that same way as anyone who thinks the DNC is capable of a coordinated & effective, massive voter fraud is an imbecile; anyone who thinks that AT&T is capable of running a global conspiracy, has never used any of their services

[Hal Jordan]

You do wonder if anyone noticed that he'd knocked the service out.

[Saint]

GOP Congressman-elecy for the Louisiana 5th dies of COVID19, aged 42. Urged people to distance and mask, but is recorded as regularly doing neither

[Hal Jordan]

McConnell on why he's saying no to $2000 stimulus checks: "The Senate is not going to be bullied into rushing out more borrowed money into the hands of Democrats' rich friends who don't need the help."

He is a disgusting piece of shit and frankly fat worse than Trump.

[Rinkals]

Hawley's submission really does show how much of a sham is Democracy in the US.

At least, solely because of this blue wave in the US midterms, there is very little chance of the voter's choice being nullified and Trump reinstalled for a second term, but had the GOP managed to retain the house, that could very well have come to pass.

Granted, the midterms were part of the democratic process, but it just shows how paper thin their democracy is.

The issue is that Hawley's objection established a precedent under which a defeated President whose party holds both houses may overturn the vote.

Or am I being too pessimistic?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

McConnell on why he's saying no to $2000 stimulus checks: "The Senate is not going to be bullied into rushing out more borrowed money into the hands of Democrats' rich friends who don't need the help."

He is a disgusting piece of shit and frankly fat worse than Trump.

fat worse by a neck maybe

[Lobby]

Hawley's submission really does show how much of a sham is Democracy in the US.

At least, solely because of this blue wave in the US midterms, there is very little chance of the voter's choice being nullified and Trump reinstalled for a second term, but had the GOP managed to retain the house, that could very well have come to pass.

Granted, the midterms were part of the democratic process, but it just shows how paper thin their democracy is.

The issue is that Hawley's objection established a precedent under which a defeated President whose party holds both houses may overturn the vote.

Or am I being too pessimistic?

The only things he is trying to establish are his own credentials as a successor to Trump in 2024. The precedent for objections to the electoral College already exists, and the Senate has debated the results on three previous occasions. Democrats also objected to electoral college votes for Bush in 2004, and Trump in 2016, so there is nothing new in what he is doing. Doesn’t stop hi, being an opportunistic arse of course.

[Fangle]

This stopping of a $2000.00 to everyone is logical. A lot of us haven’t lost any wages due to the virus. It should be a lot more targeted to the people who have been really badly affected. To those businesses and their workers who really need it. Not for many who have had no loss in income.

[Flockwitt]

This stopping of a $2000.00 to everyone is logical. A lot of us haven’t lost any wages due to the virus. It should be a lot more targeted to the people who have been really badly affected. To those businesses and their workers who really need it. Not for many who have had no loss in income.

Have to admit there's a point there. In NZ during the last election the National party put forward a universal tax break as an economic boost - a totally irresponsible election bribe with a big chunk of money going to those who didn't need it and wouldn't have put it directly back into the economy the way the those in genuine need will do. Not easy to target though.

[Fangle]

I’m retired and so haven’t missed anything. Why send me money that I just put into savings?
And my kids and spouses have been fully employed not missing a single paycheck. And every federal employee lost nothing.

[Blake]

This stopping of a $2000.00 to everyone is logical. A lot of us haven’t lost any wages due to the virus. It should be a lot more targeted to the people who have been really badly affected. To those businesses and their workers who really need it. Not for many who have had no loss in income.

While I agree in sentiment, the reality and the case for things like UBI is that the administration required to determine who qualified and who doesn’t will cost almost as much as just distributing the funds to everybody.

Those that don’t “need” it, will either save it, use it to pay off some debt or spend it (like my sister did). All 3 outcomes are better for the economy than sinking it into more government agencies and systems to manage the disbursements.

I think there is a lot of merit in that position...especially in this time of crisis where unemployment insurance systems have shown that they are incapable of dealing with these applications and disbursements at this scale, while Tax authorities that do this annually were able to.

[Uncle fester]

This is so mental.

[Raggs]

This is so mental.

It is, but they can do so "safely" I think, since the house is mostly democrats right? So they can easily pander to their voters, whilst not risking actually causing issues in democracy?

[Uncle fester]

This is so mental.

It is, but they can do so "safely" I think, since the house is mostly democrats right? So they can easily pander to their voters, whilst not risking actually causing issues in democracy?

This is pouring acid on the foundations of their state.

[Raggs]

This is so mental.

It is, but they can do so "safely" I think, since the house is mostly democrats right? So they can easily pander to their voters, whilst not risking actually causing issues in democracy?

This is pouring acid on the foundations of their state.

Oh yes, but they want to get voted in again. An endpoint of democracy, where getting voted in is everything, rather than actually being a decent leader.

[GogLais]

I read somewhere that Republicans and Democrats now regard each other as a bigger enemy than any foreign power. A dire position for a country to be in.

[Sandstorm]

Americans are mental. Fucked in the head. All of them.

[Hal Jordan]

Americans are mental. Fucked in the head. All of them.

The UK is not far away from there, the destruction of democracy on both sides of the Atlantic continues. It's basically an oligarchy/kleptocracy in all but name.

[Sandstorm]

Americans are mental. Fucked in the head. All of them.

The UK is not far away from there, the destruction of democracy on both sides of the Atlantic continues. It's basically an oligarchy/kleptocracy in all but name.

Hand guns.

[Ovals]

This is so mental.

It is, but they can do so "safely" I think, since the house is mostly democrats right? So they can easily pander to their voters, whilst not risking actually causing issues in democracy?

It's a dangerous path they are treading - suppose, next time, a party holds both the House and the Senate - they are saying that the party, rather than the voters, get to decide who the next president is. They are setting the precedent.

[fishfoodie]

This is so mental.

It is, but they can do so "safely" I think, since the house is mostly democrats right? So they can easily pander to their voters, whilst not risking actually causing issues in democracy?

It's a dangerous path they are treading - suppose, next time, a party holds both the House and the Senate - they are saying that the party, rather than the voters, get to decide who the next president is. They are setting the precedent.

Yeah; & this is why responsible Republicans should be hoping that the DNC gets control of everything for the next few years. There needs to be a root & branch reform of the Electoral college & the way the constituencies get managed; & that won't happen under GOP control.

If it doesn't happen soon there really will be violence soon over the results of an election.

[Hong Kong]

I’m retired and so haven’t missed anything. Why send me money that I just put into savings?
And my kids and spouses have been fully employed not missing a single paycheck. And every federal employee lost nothing.

Not having a pop Fangle but

[Hong Kong]

I’m retired and so haven’t missed anything. Why send me money that I just put into savings?
And my kids and spouses have been fully employed not missing a single paycheck. And every federal employee lost nothing.

Not having a pop Fangle but