Hugo wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:47 pm
The level of delusion and lack of self awareness amongst American pundits is something to behold.
I guess they have to keep up this pretence of America being "the shining city on the hill" but it is not and probably never has been a model democracy or society and very few people actually buy into this mythology any more.
Reminds me of that episode of the west wing where a newly formed country goes to the west wing to ask for guidance on writing their constitution.
Toby tried to explain that the presidential system in the US is intrinsically unstable, as it puts too much power in one person’s hands.
Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:15 pm
Be quicker to work with Pence to invoke 25th Amendment
Interestingly, it was Pence and not Trump who approved the deployment of the National Guard, contrary to the earlier lies from Trump's press secretary that he had done so.
The acting secretary of defense, Christopher Miller, said in a statement that he discussed the deployment of National Guard troops to the Capitol with Mike Pence, not Donald Trump.
“Chairman Milley and I just spoke separately with the Vice President and with Speaker Pelosi, Leader McConnell, Senator Schumer and Representative Hoyer about the situation at the U.S. Capitol,” Miller said in the statement.
“We have fully activated the D.C. National Guard to assist federal and local law enforcement as they work to peacefully address the situation. We are prepared to provide additional support as necessary and appropriate as requested by local authorities.”
Not really a surprise, Trump wanted all of this!
Only way Republicans can come out with a slither of respectability is to vote for impeaching him early. But they got what they paid for so f*ck em.
I have to admit here that I was completely wrong. I thought and said that it would be a peaceful handover. I hope that they lock them all up as they should all rioters.
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:06 pm
woman protestor shot in the neck; doesn't look good, but she's in hospital now.
I won't repost the video.
She will be pronounced dead. Not often someone in a pre-hospital traumatic arrest survives.
Being reported that she has died.
You apparently saw the video of her being brought to the ambulance, while having CPR administered; there's another video of the shooting & the immediate aftermath; & I didn't post it; & was surprised that a respectable media organization did post it; because it was the last thing any family of hers should have seen.
I know we've all doom-mongered and talked of a brewing civil war for a lot of the last 4 years, but actually seeing far right protesters storming the Capitol isn't something I really thought I'd see.
This plus the clashes over BLM in the Summer... I don't know how you even begin to bring the Trumpists back to normal society.
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:26 am
Sounds like Cruz et al have chickened out & will do the minimum to suck dictatorial cock; & pretend that the attempted coup isn't what they wanted.
They'll still try to stop the democratic will of the people; but in a; "limited & specific way",
Last heard that phrasing when Bumblecunt & co. were attempting to break international law.
The war on terror has once again ignited on the domestic front. And many in positions of power don't seem to take seriously the idea of defending American from domestic enemies
What's striking is that the notional President is now being pushed to the side; & the VP; who became public enemy number one,; when he belatedly confirmed the limits of his role.
It's Pence who is being mentioned in all the press statements from the WH.
It's him who is authorizing the Nation Guard activation; it's him who is talking to the Senate & House Leadership.
It seems it just took thousands of people looking for his blood for the thick fuck to realize that he was supporting a dictator
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:39 am
What's striking is that the notional President is now being pushed to the side; & the VP; who became public enemy number one,; when he belatedly confirmed the limits of his role.
It's Pence who is being mentioned in all the press statements from the WH.
It's him who is authorizing the Nation Guard activation; it's him who is talking to the Senate & House Leadership.
It seems it just took thousands of people looking for his blood for the thick fuck to realize that he was supporting a dictator
Nah, he knew all along; it just didn't matter until the mob was pointed at him.
Trump 'Ship of Shit' sinking fast now. Rats are deserting the ship faster than the Blonde Bumblecunt makes a U turn. His staff are escaping WH and many now saying he is as mad as a hatter. Being called openly a narcissistic psychopath on CCN by democrats and Mitt Romney ... and no-one including Republicans disagrees. VP is running the ship, which is not reassuring. Tango Twat has flipped, gone loco, lost his marbles and is gone rogue. Goes on video thanking the nutters and giving them compliments, saying they did a good job.Serious discussion now about getting him out of office asap.Twitter banned him. The KKK, white militia, Nazi thugs and Proud Boys, etc gone away to get assault rifles and will kick off big style somewhere soon. Expecting more Town Halls to be invaded by thugs tomorrow. Washington DC going into full lock down from now until Biden is anointed. Congress meeting soon to resume certification of vote which will trigger Trump and his mob into even more violence.
Questions ...
- Does the Tango Twat still have access to the big red button - please say no!
- Is this more of an existential threat than covid19
- Will the big boy republicans do the right thing with Trump and get rid of him via 25th amendment
- Will there be civil/racial war in US now
- Should I break my Dry January and have a very stiff G&T
It is mesmerising watching CNN and the US collapsing into a state of panic. As is the case with all charismatic dictators and wannabe Dictators the collapse is dramatic and swift, however this one is spectacular!
dpedin wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:57 am
Trump 'Ship of Shit' sinking fast now. Rats are deserting the ship faster than the Blonde Bumblecunt makes a U turn. His staff are escaping WH and many now saying he is as mad as a hatter. Being called openly a narcissistic psychopath on CCN by democrats and Mitt Romney ... and no-one including Republicans disagrees. VP is running the ship, which is not reassuring. Tango Twat has flipped, gone loco, lost his marbles and is gone rogue. Goes on video thanking the nutters and giving them compliments, saying they did a good job.Serious discussion now about getting him out of office asap.Twitter banned him. The KKK, white militia, Nazi thugs and Proud Boys, etc gone away to get assault rifles and will kick off big style somewhere soon. Expecting more Town Halls to be invaded by thugs tomorrow. Washington DC going into full lock down from now until Biden is anointed. Congress meeting soon to resume certification of vote which will trigger Trump and his mob into even more violence.
dpedin wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:57 am
Trump 'Ship of Shit' sinking fast now. Rats are deserting the ship faster than the Blonde Bumblecunt makes a U turn. His staff are escaping WH and many now saying he is as mad as a hatter. Being called openly a narcissistic psychopath on CCN by democrats and Mitt Romney ... and no-one including Republicans disagrees. VP is running the ship, which is not reassuring. Tango Twat has flipped, gone loco, lost his marbles and is gone rogue. Goes on video thanking the nutters and giving them compliments, saying they did a good job.Serious discussion now about getting him out of office asap.Twitter banned him. The KKK, white militia, Nazi thugs and Proud Boys, etc gone away to get assault rifles and will kick off big style somewhere soon. Expecting more Town Halls to be invaded by thugs tomorrow. Washington DC going into full lock down from now until Biden is anointed. Congress meeting soon to resume certification of vote which will trigger Trump and his mob into even more violence.
Better late than never I guess?
Nope !
If they left after a few days maybe; but after that they are willing participants; just like
The hypocritical fuckers now deploring the violence they ignored until it threatened them.
Where were they when the scum said there were good people on both sides ?
Tbf to them, you can see as the camera pans around that people are already in behind them, there's nothing to gain from trying to hold that position.
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Yeh not sure what was going on, maybe they had got in some other way, and then got some help from some friendly coppers. The police though were not holding a position, the rather pathetic barrier seemed to be doing a grand job until the police opened it and encouraged them through. Police pretty chilled all-round, here's one getting a selfie with one of the unscheduled visitors to the Capital: https://twitter.com/search?q=police%20s ... head_click
More worrying is what a organised hostile enemy could do if they got that close to all the USA legislators. I bet Iran/ISIS are kicking themselves they didn't use the protest as cover for something a bit more violent.
Anyone remember back when Trump illegally sought to put pressure on Georgia to find him another 12k or so votes? That story, like so many of his acts, has died a death it would seem
The bad news there is he has seemingly learned it he does something even more stupid people will stop talking about his riot in DC
Kiwias wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:43 am
It is fun watching GOP members of congressmen/women slithering their way back from their avowed determination to object to Biden's victory.
Yeah, it’s hard to think of anyone ever back-pedalling so hard as some of these fuckers. Some of them might not though. Let’s see what Hawley says, and if Cruz objects to any other state results.
Kiwias wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:43 am
It is fun watching GOP members of congressmen/women slithering their way back from their avowed determination to object to Biden's victory.
So, the whole 25th amendment thing - I have it in my head that it’s specifically the Vice President that has to chair the debate in the senate, so if he’d called A25 before finishing the debate, he’d have to appoint another VP, get them to chair it and it might be challenged because two different men chaired the debate. So it needs to wait until after the debate to declare A25.
