The Brexit Thread

[SaintK]

Did anyone really think anything different from these lying bastards?

Amid mounting anger among UK firms at cross-border friction they were told would not exist, British manufacturing and trade organisations met Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove in an emergency session on Thursday to discuss problems resulting from the deal struck by Boris Johnson with the EU before Christmas.

The prime minister had hailed what he claimed was a “zero-tariff” and “zero-quotas” deal that would allow free and simple access to the single market. Less than a month on, however, Britain’s EU departure appears to be anything but pain-free.

One leading figure involved in the talks with Gove described the new rule book as a “complete shitshow”. Another said Gove seemed “very concerned” at hearing reports of problems, after a week in which Marks & Spencer was among leading companies to warn that more bureaucracy would increase costs. The source added: “He [Gove] seemed to realise the full gravity of the situation that is unfolding and about to get worse.”

[sockwithaticket]

One benefit of being out of the EU is that the government can re-introduce pesticides known to be harmful to bees and other wildlife.

Take that remoaners. Sovereignty! Fuck the bees, it's not like they're crucial for bio-diversity and crop pollination...

It probably won't do anything, but here's a thing you can sign.

https://www.change.org/p/uk-government- ... 3521849a4d

Better yet, harangue your MP directly.

This is the sort of thing Brexit was really about, yet more de-regulation.

Oh yes. Can't complete the transformation into the 51st state without laying the groundwork for unfettered predatory capitalism.

[fishfoodie]

One benefit of being out of the EU is that the government can re-introduce pesticides known to be harmful to bees and other wildlife.

Take that remoaners. Sovereignty! Fuck the bees, it's not like they're crucial for bio-diversity and crop pollination...

It probably won't do anything, but here's a thing you can sign.

https://www.change.org/p/uk-government- ... 3521849a4d

Better yet, harangue your MP directly.

This is the sort of thing Brexit was really about, yet more de-regulation.

Oh yes. Can't complete the transformation into the 51st state without laying the groundwork for unfettered predatory capitalism.

Well there's always been a lot of jingoism, & harking back to the Empire around Brexit; now the UK will get to experience what it was like being a colony.

[Biffer]

That’s the chiselling away at environmental regs started, give it a couple of months and they’ll start on workers protections with some kind of excuse of making it easier to employ people (i.e. removing benefits and making it cheaper) and having a more flexible workforce (I.e. making it easier to fire people).

[Rinkals]

Project fear, obviously.

Bimbo assured us that goods arriving in the EU are never inspected so friction would be negligible.

[Openside]

Its a total whinge fest

[Insane_Homer]

Its a total whinge fest

Own your shit

[Openside]

Its a total whinge fest

Own your shit

I am more than happy to own what ever shit is coming our way (if the last 4 years is anything to go by it will be about a 10th of the calamity predicted) I was just pointing out its like a WI moan-athon in this thread. bleat bleat bleat

[ASMO]

Its a total whinge fest

Own your shit

I am more than happy to own what ever shit is coming our way (if the last 4 years is anything to go by it will be about a 10th of the calamity predicted) I was just pointing out its like a WI moan-athon in this thread. bleat bleat bleat

You are probably financially secure enough to cope with it, but there are many many millions who are not so it is slightly arrogant for you to say that.

[Tichtheid]

The complaint of whingeing is a deflection from the fact that many of the concerns that have been raised over the last five years are indeed being seen to be legitimate.

[Openside]

Own your shit

I am more than happy to own what ever shit is coming our way (if the last 4 years is anything to go by it will be about a 10th of the calamity predicted) I was just pointing out its like a WI moan-athon in this thread. bleat bleat bleat

You are probably financially secure enough to cope with it, but there are many many millions who are not so it is slightly arrogant for you to say that.

It hasn't really got anything to do with financial security, just the endless many diatribes running the country down, its just endless and its fucking boring. Most of the shit that was sure to happen hasn't and almost certainly won't. Frankly the way the EU has behaved over the last 4 1/2 years I am amazed anyone wants to continue membership. I look forward to other brave souls jumping ship in the near future.

[Random1]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=h ... AdAAAAABAD



We’re at confusion stage

We’ve skipped stage 2.

Edit - link didn’t work.

[Openside]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=h ... AdAAAAABAD



We’re at confusion stage

We’ve skipped stage 2.

Edit - link didn’t work.

[Hellraiser]

I am more than happy to own what ever shit is coming our way (if the last 4 years is anything to go by it will be about a 10th of the calamity predicted) I was just pointing out its like a WI moan-athon in this thread. bleat bleat bleat

You are probably financially secure enough to cope with it, but there are many many millions who are not so it is slightly arrogant for you to say that.

It hasn't really got anything to do with financial security, just the endless many diatribes running the country down, its just endless and its fucking boring. Most of the shit that was sure to happen hasn't and almost certainly won't. Frankly the way the EU has behaved over the last 4 1/2 years I am amazed anyone wants to continue membership. I look forward to other brave souls jumping ship in the near future.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

I am more than happy to own what ever shit is coming our way (if the last 4 years is anything to go by it will be about a 10th of the calamity predicted) I was just pointing out its like a WI moan-athon in this thread. bleat bleat bleat

You are probably financially secure enough to cope with it, but there are many many millions who are not so it is slightly arrogant for you to say that.

It hasn't really got anything to do with financial security, just the endless many diatribes running the country down, its just endless and its fucking boring. Most of the shit that was sure to happen hasn't and almost certainly won't. Frankly the way the EU has behaved over the last 4 1/2 years I am amazed anyone wants to continue membership. I look forward to other brave souls jumping ship in the near future.

It's very Boris to think if only people weren't running the country down everything would be all right, and to think that people stating the downright obvious is running the country down. When really that fact it's a shit show would still be the case whether we slate it or declare it the Emperor's new clothes. And blaming the EU is weak as, it's also perverse to think we can make our own demands and not expect otherwise might do likewise, that part slips from the standard of Boris to the standard of Trump.

If however you're worried about people taking the piss, then either deliver on the promised panacea or maybe you would want to consider jumping ship. It's hard to see why Brexit will pay off so the piss taking looks set to run and run

[Random1]

You are probably financially secure enough to cope with it, but there are many many millions who are not so it is slightly arrogant for you to say that.

It hasn't really got anything to do with financial security, just the endless many diatribes running the country down, its just endless and its fucking boring. Most of the shit that was sure to happen hasn't and almost certainly won't. Frankly the way the EU has behaved over the last 4 1/2 years I am amazed anyone wants to continue membership. I look forward to other brave souls jumping ship in the near future.

It's very Boris to think if only people weren't running the country down everything would be all right, and to think that people stating the downright obvious is running the country down. When really that fact it's a shit show would still be the case whether we slate it or declare it the Emperor's new clothes. And blaming the EU is weak as, it's also perverse to think we can make our own demands and not expect otherwise might do likewise, that part slips from the standard of Boris to the standard of Trump.

If however you're worried about people taking the piss, then either deliver on the promised panacea or maybe you would want to consider jumping ship. It's hard to see why Brexit will pay off so the piss taking looks set to run and run

What’s the outcome you’re after with the piss taking?

You hoping for us to rejoin?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

It hasn't really got anything to do with financial security, just the endless many diatribes running the country down, its just endless and its fucking boring. Most of the shit that was sure to happen hasn't and almost certainly won't. Frankly the way the EU has behaved over the last 4 1/2 years I am amazed anyone wants to continue membership. I look forward to other brave souls jumping ship in the near future.

It's very Boris to think if only people weren't running the country down everything would be all right, and to think that people stating the downright obvious is running the country down. When really that fact it's a shit show would still be the case whether we slate it or declare it the Emperor's new clothes. And blaming the EU is weak as, it's also perverse to think we can make our own demands and not expect otherwise might do likewise, that part slips from the standard of Boris to the standard of Trump.

If however you're worried about people taking the piss, then either deliver on the promised panacea or maybe you would want to consider jumping ship. It's hard to see why Brexit will pay off so the piss taking looks set to run and run

What’s the outcome you’re after with the piss taking?

You hoping for us to rejoin?

Yes I'm hoping to rejoin, or at least given how the world looks today. That view might change as the World and or the EU change in ways we might not predict as of today, but I'm assuming being in a such a strong trading block with our nearest and dearest and having that block stand apart from the USA, India and China might prove useful.

Taking the piss is just for the fun of it. It's always possible it will prove influential later, and perhaps not in ways I'd like, but it's much more likely I've no influence on this site or anyone reading it, and this entire site will have no influence on future public debate.

[dpedin]

It's very Boris to think if only people weren't running the country down everything would be all right, and to think that people stating the downright obvious is running the country down. When really that fact it's a shit show would still be the case whether we slate it or declare it the Emperor's new clothes. And blaming the EU is weak as, it's also perverse to think we can make our own demands and not expect otherwise might do likewise, that part slips from the standard of Boris to the standard of Trump.

If however you're worried about people taking the piss, then either deliver on the promised panacea or maybe you would want to consider jumping ship. It's hard to see why Brexit will pay off so the piss taking looks set to run and run

What’s the outcome you’re after with the piss taking?

You hoping for us to rejoin?

Yes I'm hoping to rejoin, or at least given how the world looks today. That view might change as the World and or the EU change in ways we might not predict as of today, but I'm assuming being in a such a strong trading block with our nearest and dearest and having that block stand apart from the USA, India and China might prove useful.

Taking the piss is just for the fun of it. It's always possible it will prove influential later, and perhaps not in ways I'd like, but it's much more likely I've no influence on this site or anyone reading it, and this entire site will have no influence on future public debate.

No one is running the country down - Brexiteers do not have a monopoly on caring for and supporting their country! Its a bit like Trump deciding everyone that didnt support him was a commie radical left winger! Pointing out the failings of the current Gov is a pretty legit response to the shitshow we now have. Now is the time to deal with realities and not the endless Blonde Bumblecunt bullshit such as there will be no trade border in the Irish Sea or there will be frictionless trade between the Uk and EU. The reality is that we have a pretty shitty trade deal that doesn't cover the majority of what we do best as a country and creates significant barriers between us and our largest trading partners ... the EU. It is not what was promised not what the vast majority wanted. Those who have delivered it will have now to own it and make it work. I await with interest!

[Random1]

It's very Boris to think if only people weren't running the country down everything would be all right, and to think that people stating the downright obvious is running the country down. When really that fact it's a shit show would still be the case whether we slate it or declare it the Emperor's new clothes. And blaming the EU is weak as, it's also perverse to think we can make our own demands and not expect otherwise might do likewise, that part slips from the standard of Boris to the standard of Trump.

If however you're worried about people taking the piss, then either deliver on the promised panacea or maybe you would want to consider jumping ship. It's hard to see why Brexit will pay off so the piss taking looks set to run and run

What’s the outcome you’re after with the piss taking?

You hoping for us to rejoin?

Yes I'm hoping to rejoin, or at least given how the world looks today. That view might change as the World and or the EU change in ways we might not predict as of today, but I'm assuming being in a such a strong trading block with our nearest and dearest and having that block stand apart from the USA, India and China might prove useful.

Taking the piss is just for the fun of it. It's always possible it will prove influential later, and perhaps not in ways I'd like, but it's much more likely I've no influence on this site or anyone reading it, and this entire site will have no influence on future public debate.

Ah, ok.

Fair enough.

Don’t think it’ll happen, but who the fuck knows these days.

I hope you’re wrong.

[Random1]

What’s the outcome you’re after with the piss taking?

You hoping for us to rejoin?

Yes I'm hoping to rejoin, or at least given how the world looks today. That view might change as the World and or the EU change in ways we might not predict as of today, but I'm assuming being in a such a strong trading block with our nearest and dearest and having that block stand apart from the USA, India and China might prove useful.

Taking the piss is just for the fun of it. It's always possible it will prove influential later, and perhaps not in ways I'd like, but it's much more likely I've no influence on this site or anyone reading it, and this entire site will have no influence on future public debate.

No one is running the country down - Brexiteers do not have a monopoly on caring for and supporting their country! Its a bit like Trump deciding everyone that didnt support him was a commie radical left winger! Pointing out the failings of the current Gov is a pretty legit response to the shitshow we now have. Now is the time to deal with realities and not the endless Blonde Bumblecunt bullshit such as there will be no trade border in the Irish Sea or there will be frictionless trade between the Uk and EU. The reality is that we have a pretty shitty trade deal that doesn't cover the majority of what we do best as a country and creates significant barriers between us and our largest trading partners ... the EU. It is not what was promised not what the vast majority wanted. Those who have delivered it will have now to own it and make it work. I await with interest!

Understand everything and sympathise with you all the way until your penultimate sentence; it isn’t just the 52% that needs to make this work. We all do.

The stats on the demographics are quite clear, the more educated were remainers by and large. If we sit back and ask the leavers make it work on their own, then we’re massively increasing the risk of the country struggling.

Best we all pull together and try and make it with together. Isn’t it?

[dpedin]

Yes I'm hoping to rejoin, or at least given how the world looks today. That view might change as the World and or the EU change in ways we might not predict as of today, but I'm assuming being in a such a strong trading block with our nearest and dearest and having that block stand apart from the USA, India and China might prove useful.

Taking the piss is just for the fun of it. It's always possible it will prove influential later, and perhaps not in ways I'd like, but it's much more likely I've no influence on this site or anyone reading it, and this entire site will have no influence on future public debate.

No one is running the country down - Brexiteers do not have a monopoly on caring for and supporting their country! Its a bit like Trump deciding everyone that didnt support him was a commie radical left winger! Pointing out the failings of the current Gov is a pretty legit response to the shitshow we now have. Now is the time to deal with realities and not the endless Blonde Bumblecunt bullshit such as there will be no trade border in the Irish Sea or there will be frictionless trade between the Uk and EU. The reality is that we have a pretty shitty trade deal that doesn't cover the majority of what we do best as a country and creates significant barriers between us and our largest trading partners ... the EU. It is not what was promised not what the vast majority wanted. Those who have delivered it will have now to own it and make it work. I await with interest!

Understand everything and sympathise with you all the way until your penultimate sentence; it isn’t just the 52% that needs to make this work. We all do.

The stats on the demographics are quite clear, the more educated were remainers by and large. If we sit back and ask the leavers make it work on their own, then we’re massively increasing the risk of the country struggling.

Best we all pull together and try and make it with together. Isn’t it?

Don't disagree, we dont really have any choice do we. I didn't make myself really clear! I meant that the current Gov are the ones who 'own it', who have led us into this deal will now need to work hard to mitigate the impact. However I suspect we will now get the it wisnae us and the lines of 'business weren't prepared', its the EU/French that are doing this to us' and 'we were fooled and didnt agree to this part of the agreement!'.

[Random1]

Ah, ok, with you now.

Yeah, fair enough. Gove, Truss and Boris need to put their shoulders to the wheel.

I think it’s a national pastime to blame the french. Let’s face it, they do try to make things harder than they need to be.

I wish them luck in their work, as the better they do, the better we all do.

[Insane_Homer]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brit ... edirect=uk

Exclusive: 'It's a catastrophe': Scottish fishermen halt exports due to Brexit red tape
By Kate Holton

LONDON (Reuters) - Many Scottish fishermen have halted exports to European Union markets after post-Brexit bureaucracy shattered the system that used to put fresh langoustines and scallops in French shops just over a day after they were harvested.

[Openside]

It's very Boris to think if only people weren't running the country down everything would be all right, and to think that people stating the downright obvious is running the country down. When really that fact it's a shit show would still be the case whether we slate it or declare it the Emperor's new clothes. And blaming the EU is weak as, it's also perverse to think we can make our own demands and not expect otherwise might do likewise, that part slips from the standard of Boris to the standard of Trump.

If however you're worried about people taking the piss, then either deliver on the promised panacea or maybe you would want to consider jumping ship. It's hard to see why Brexit will pay off so the piss taking looks set to run and run

What’s the outcome you’re after with the piss taking?

You hoping for us to rejoin?

Yes I'm hoping to rejoin, or at least given how the world looks today. That view might change as the World and or the EU change in ways we might not predict as of today, but I'm assuming being in a such a strong trading block with our nearest and dearest and having that block stand apart from the USA, India and China might prove useful.

Taking the piss is just for the fun of it. It's always possible it will prove influential later, and perhaps not in ways I'd like, but it's much more likely I've no influence on this site or anyone reading it, and this entire site will have no influence on future public debate.

Hmmm that Unicorn gag I see works both ways

[Openside]

Yes I'm hoping to rejoin, or at least given how the world looks today. That view might change as the World and or the EU change in ways we might not predict as of today, but I'm assuming being in a such a strong trading block with our nearest and dearest and having that block stand apart from the USA, India and China might prove useful.

Taking the piss is just for the fun of it. It's always possible it will prove influential later, and perhaps not in ways I'd like, but it's much more likely I've no influence on this site or anyone reading it, and this entire site will have no influence on future public debate.

No one is running the country down - Brexiteers do not have a monopoly on caring for and supporting their country! Its a bit like Trump deciding everyone that didnt support him was a commie radical left winger! Pointing out the failings of the current Gov is a pretty legit response to the shitshow we now have. Now is the time to deal with realities and not the endless Blonde Bumblecunt bullshit such as there will be no trade border in the Irish Sea or there will be frictionless trade between the Uk and EU. The reality is that we have a pretty shitty trade deal that doesn't cover the majority of what we do best as a country and creates significant barriers between us and our largest trading partners ... the EU. It is not what was promised not what the vast majority wanted. Those who have delivered it will have now to own it and make it work. I await with interest!

Understand everything and sympathise with you all the way until your penultimate sentence; it isn’t just the 52% that needs to make this work. We all do.

The stats on the demographics are quite clear, the more educated were remainers by and large. If we sit back and ask the leavers make it work on their own, then we’re massively increasing the risk of the country struggling.

Best we all pull together and try and make it with together. Isn’t it?

In a nutshell

[Insane_Homer]

Well done everyone!

[Rhubarb & Custard]

What’s the outcome you’re after with the piss taking?

You hoping for us to rejoin?

Yes I'm hoping to rejoin, or at least given how the world looks today. That view might change as the World and or the EU change in ways we might not predict as of today, but I'm assuming being in a such a strong trading block with our nearest and dearest and having that block stand apart from the USA, India and China might prove useful.

Taking the piss is just for the fun of it. It's always possible it will prove influential later, and perhaps not in ways I'd like, but it's much more likely I've no influence on this site or anyone reading it, and this entire site will have no influence on future public debate.

Hmmm that Unicorn gag I see works both ways

Ah, then to clarify your misunderstanding the unicorn gag intends to convey Brexit was a fantastical promise of sunlit uplands and the afore mentioned unicorns. Whereas rejoin, as unlikely and even improbable as it looks today, has a clear path to follow if, and granted it's a big if, a democratic mandate were ever realised for it. And it's okay that rejoin looks a long process and one that's likely to stumble many times, as Max Weber noted, "politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards".

Essentially there's not an equivalence between improbable and total balderdash

[Yeeb]

Well done everyone!

Bit sad having to resort to a daily mail article - how’s about linking the Tesco ceo saying things will be fine or the vast majority of other stores that are full of fresh produce ?
Depending on when the delivery lorry has come, seeing empty shelves for a few hours isn’t that unusual as it’s a temp hit to OSA (on shelf availability)

For a truer picture , go online and see if any bananas , oranges etc have a ‘item unavailable’ tag on them.

Until recently I worked in food supply chain, Tesco have good people (not enough of them though), good systems , and have a flexible attitude and can see the bigger picture. Marks and Sparks have old duffers, shite systems, their HQ in Paddington is full of unsold old people clothes that Openside wears , and it’s absolutely no surprise to me that it’s them whinging in the press about brexit supply chain problems - they were an awful account to work on and it’s clear their brexit prep was woeful and geared around expecting govt to sort everything out, ultra lazy attitude.

[Yeeb]

Yes I'm hoping to rejoin, or at least given how the world looks today. That view might change as the World and or the EU change in ways we might not predict as of today, but I'm assuming being in a such a strong trading block with our nearest and dearest and having that block stand apart from the USA, India and China might prove useful.

Taking the piss is just for the fun of it. It's always possible it will prove influential later, and perhaps not in ways I'd like, but it's much more likely I've no influence on this site or anyone reading it, and this entire site will have no influence on future public debate.

Hmmm that Unicorn gag I see works both ways

Ah, then to clarify your misunderstanding the unicorn gag intends to convey Brexit was a fantastical promise of sunlit uplands and the afore mentioned unicorns. Whereas rejoin, as unlikely and even improbable as it looks today, has a clear path to follow if, and granted it's a big if, a democratic mandate were ever realised for it. And it's okay that rejoin looks a long process and one that's likely to stumble many times, as Max Weber noted, "politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards".

Essentially there's not an equivalence between improbable and total balderdash

Ultra remainer bollocks from you - did you not think the remain project fear camp was also full of doom and gloom that just hasn’t occurred ? Brexit has white unicorns, remain had black unicorns.
The 100k jobs lost in the square mile, the pound falling below parity with Europe , no food in the shops, Russians taking over everything , jobs lost by the million - none of this happened because of brexit.

Hopefully the Eu will fail even more now one of its largest wallets has gone and there will be nothing left to rejoin - certainly in the near future there is no meaningfull uk party that wants to rejoin.

[Slick]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brit ... edirect=uk

Exclusive: 'It's a catastrophe': Scottish fishermen halt exports due to Brexit red tape
By Kate Holton

LONDON (Reuters) - Many Scottish fishermen have halted exports to European Union markets after post-Brexit bureaucracy shattered the system that used to put fresh langoustines and scallops in French shops just over a day after they were harvested.

I know that up at Peterhead Fishmarket the langoustine didn't even hit the market floor before being loaded onto French lorries, it will be a disaster for some fishermen.

[sockwithaticket]

Ra ra ra, it'll all be fine chaps if we just wish it to be. Apparently.

[Dogbert]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brit ... edirect=uk

Exclusive: 'It's a catastrophe': Scottish fishermen halt exports due to Brexit red tape
By Kate Holton

LONDON (Reuters) - Many Scottish fishermen have halted exports to European Union markets after post-Brexit bureaucracy shattered the system that used to put fresh langoustines and scallops in French shops just over a day after they were harvested.

I know that up at Peterhead Fishmarket the langoustine didn't even hit the market floor before being loaded onto French lorries, it will be a disaster for some fishermen.

Can they not retrain for a job in Cyber ?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brit ... edirect=uk

I know that up at Peterhead Fishmarket the langoustine didn't even hit the market floor before being loaded onto French lorries, it will be a disaster for some fishermen.

Can they not retrain for a job in Cyber ?

Is cyber fishing phishing?

[Dogbert]

I know that up at Peterhead Fishmarket the langoustine didn't even hit the market floor before being loaded onto French lorries, it will be a disaster for some fishermen.

Can they not retrain for a job in Cyber ?

Is cyber fishing phishing?

Your a dab hand at this

[Slick]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brit ... edirect=uk

I know that up at Peterhead Fishmarket the langoustine didn't even hit the market floor before being loaded onto French lorries, it will be a disaster for some fishermen.

Can they not retrain for a job in Cyber ?

The langoustine?

[Dogbert]

Yes, Obviously the langoustines , but only as part of the Corps de Ballet ( their Fish Dives would be spectacular )

Actually ,Shellfish performing Ballet makes about as much sense as Brexit

[Sandstorm]

Actually, Shellfish performing Ballet makes about as much sense as Brexit

[Tichtheid]

I know that up at Peterhead Fishmarket the langoustine didn't even hit the market floor before being loaded onto French lorries, it will be a disaster for some fishermen.

Can they not retrain for a job in Cyber ?

The langoustine?

They’d be used to working in Sea++

[Sandstorm]

Nice

[I like neeps]

Traders in London when working with a client in the EU now need a colleague from their bank based in the EU to be on those calls or presentations or IM threads .