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Slick wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:50 am
Wignu wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:49 am It highlighted everything the Trump administration wasn't. Coherent, intelligent, eloquent, all-embracing, non-divisive and optimistic.
and black.
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Saint wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:33 pm Worth watching James Corden's.....
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Chrysoprase wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:55 pm
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I'm not his biggest fan by any means, but it was a very good piece
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Saint wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:28 pm I'm not his biggest fan by any means, but it was a very good piece
I'm not being particularly serious :wink:

I was procrastinating
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Chrysoprase wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:36 pm
Saint wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:28 pm I'm not his biggest fan by any means, but it was a very good piece
I'm not being particularly serious :wink:

I was procrastinating
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sturginho wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:06 am

I haven't seen it, I feel like I am missing out on something pivotal?
For me it was the juxtaposition of an intelligent, self confident, black, small 22 year old girl reciting a wonderful self penned poem at exactly the same spot that we had stupid, thick, brainwashed, white, pot bellied 50+ year old racist men chanting inane slogans copied from QANON websites waving their 'penis envy' assault rifles in the air. Whereas 1,000s of them couldn't demolish the pillars of US democracy with guns and weapons a small black girl destroyed them and what they stand for using only words. Wonderful.
Powerful poem and truly amazing performance of it. I bet she was absolutely buzzing after that - nailed it.

Let’s hope it’s a sign of a return of intellect to American discourse. We’ve really missed it on the world stage as they increasingly became a laughing stock

Onwards and upwards.
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Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am Image
That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am Image
That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.
Upper class Eton educated privileged middle aged white man is a racist. Shockeroonie.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am Image
That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.
I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.
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Lobby wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:04 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am Image
That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.
I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.
I recently re-watched a documentary about the Windscale Fire; & how it happened at a very inconvenient time, because the UK was desperate to get the co-operation of the US in developing their Nuclear weapons. The US Congress had, right after the war; passed legislation to make it a Capital offence to share information on nuclear matters with any Non-US National.

What it all came down to was the close personal relationship between Macmillan, & Ike. Nothing to do with the, "Special Relationship", but instead down to the fact that the two were friends, & the access was basically arranged, between the two friends, over a weekend in Chequers.

People aren't robots; & Governments are composed of people, & their relationships, & their prejudices.
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:29 pm
Lobby wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:04 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am

That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.
I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.
I recently re-watched a documentary about the Windscale Fire; & how it happened at a very inconvenient time, because the UK was desperate to get the co-operation of the US in developing their Nuclear weapons. The US Congress had, right after the war; passed legislation to make it a Capital offence to share information on nuclear matters with any Non-US National.

What it all came down to was the close personal relationship between Macmillan, & Ike. Nothing to do with the, "Special Relationship", but instead down to the fact that the two were friends, & the access was basically arranged, between the two friends, over a weekend in Chequers.

People aren't robots; & Governments are composed of people, & their relationships, & their prejudices.
Ike, having commanded British troops and being well aware of the British war effort, was also well aware of how shabby shutting us out of a project we'd started and contributed to in good faith was. Macmillan reminded him not so subtly on this point as well.
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Lobby wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:04 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am Image
That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.
I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.
Well yeah, because that's where the G7 summit is being held. Bit disingenuous!
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GogLais wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:20 pm I wonder what was in Trump's letter to Biden - I'll be back?
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GogLais wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:20 pm I wonder what was in Trump's letter to Biden - I'll be back?
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and only a matter of days after installing metal detectors at the entrance to the chambers; they caught their first fuckwit.

He should be suspended immediately; & face a hearing from whatever committee is responsible for disciplining these cretins.

Oh; & he should immediately have his gun licenses revoked, & all his guns seized until he proves he understands that he can't just hand a loaded firearm to a random friend to hold, while he goes thru a metal detector.
US Capitol Police are investigating an incident in which a Republican lawmaker was stopped from bringing a concealed gun onto the House floor on Thursday, sources told CNN, the first time a member of Congress has been discovered with a firearm by the metal detectors now set up outside the legislative chamber.

Rep. Andy Harris, of Maryland,
set off a metal detector outside the House floor on Thursday and an officer soon discovered it was because he was carrying a concealed gun on his side, a Capitol official told CNN. The officer sent Harris away, prompting him to ask fellow Republican Rep. John Katko, of New York, to hold his weapon.

According to a press pool report, Katko refused to hold the gun for Harris, saying that he did not have a license. Harris then left the area and returned moments later, walking onto the House floor without setting off the magnetometer.

The Capitol official confirmed to CNN that Harris did not enter the House floor with a weapon. Harris' office did not immediately return a request for comment.
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Marylandolorian wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:14 pm ^
House members are allowed to carry firearms on Capitol grounds, but not onto the House floor.

He’s a total dick anyway, he’s Maryland Eastern shore representative ( red counties), last week he almost got in a fight on the floor with a Democrat

His chief of staff issued a statement .
“Because his and his family’s lives have been threatened by someone who has been released awaiting trial, for security reasons, the congressman never confirms whether he nor anyone else he’s with are carrying a firearm for self-defense,'' the statement said. "As a matter of public record, he has a Maryland Handgun Permit. And the congressman always complies with the House metal detectors and wanding. The Congressman has never carried a firearm on the House floor.''
he got caught this time by the metal detector, newly-installed after the insurrection of 6 January, but you have to wonder how many times he has wandered into the chamber with his gun before this.
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Every time I hear a gun story like this from the US, I think of 30 Rock:

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Kiwias wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:15 am
Marylandolorian wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:14 pm ^
House members are allowed to carry firearms on Capitol grounds, but not onto the House floor.

He’s a total dick anyway, he’s Maryland Eastern shore representative ( red counties), last week he almost got in a fight on the floor with a Democrat

His chief of staff issued a statement .
“Because his and his family’s lives have been threatened by someone who has been released awaiting trial, for security reasons, the congressman never confirms whether he nor anyone else he’s with are carrying a firearm for self-defense,'' the statement said. "As a matter of public record, he has a Maryland Handgun Permit. And the congressman always complies with the House metal detectors and wanding. The Congressman has never carried a firearm on the House floor.''
he got caught this time by the metal detector, newly-installed after the insurrection of 6 January, but you have to wonder how many times he has wandered into the chamber with his gun before this.
Exactly !

The problem with honor systems; is that there are far too many people who possess none !
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Always thought politicians were a bunch of schoolkids. Now they have to walk through metal detectors, that just confirms it.
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The good news is that the GOP is eating itself; & shows signs, it will continue to do so until the orange cunt finally snuffs it.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:49 pm The good news is that the GOP is eating itself; & shows signs, it will continue to do so until the orange cunt finally snuffs it.
We're post Trump now, the fascist scum wing of the GOP are off the chain and are shifting the whole party to the extreme right (which in turn causes the centre to shift as the Democrats chase popular vote issues).
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JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:26 pm
Lobby wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:04 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am

That really was another stunning example of why the bumblecunt was unfit for any high office.

He continually fails to engage his brain, before he opens his gob; & this inevitably leads to gaffs, & worse.

When he was FS, he got a UK citizen thrown in gaol, because he repeated the accusations against her, as fact; there was the film of the ambassador trying to get him to shut-the-fuck-up, as he recited, 'Mandalay'; & his off the cuff remark about Obama, managed to convince a large part of the DNC that he was a racist; as it had unmistakable echos of birtherism.
I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.
Well yeah, because that's where the G7 summit is being held. Bit disingenuous!
It isn’t till June. Obama and Bush both went on their first foreign trip in February. Even in the current circumstances Biden could make a trip abroad if he wanted to, surprised he isn’t.
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ohno wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:03 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:26 pm
Lobby wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:04 pm

I'm not sure why IH has resurrected this speculative story from last November. As I recall there was a lot of similar speculation that Johnson would be snubbed by Biden in the immediate aftermath of the election, but this all went quiet when Johnson was one of the first world leaders called by Biden.

Johnson may be a bumbling idiot, but Biden has already shown that even if he dislikes Johnson personally, this shouldn't affect relations between the US and the UK. Biden's first international visit as President will reportedly be to the UK.
Well yeah, because that's where the G7 summit is being held. Bit disingenuous!
It isn’t till June. Obama and Bush both went on their first foreign trip in February. Even in the current circumstances Biden could make a trip abroad if he wanted to, surprised he isn’t.
Think it's pretty reasonable to say there's home priorities atm.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:30 pm
ohno wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:03 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:26 pm

Well yeah, because that's where the G7 summit is being held. Bit disingenuous!
It isn’t till June. Obama and Bush both went on their first foreign trip in February. Even in the current circumstances Biden could make a trip abroad if he wanted to, surprised he isn’t.
Think it's pretty reasonable to say there's home priorities atm.
Plus who would want a Presidential visit just now, with all the hangers-on, security and media? And why would they want to visit a locked down city anywhere?
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:25 pm Always thought politicians were a bunch of schoolkids. Now they have to walk through metal detectors, that just confirms it.
That, or sociopaths. Either way, they shouldn't be walking around with guns!
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Niegs wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:16 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:25 pm Always thought politicians were a bunch of schoolkids. Now they have to walk through metal detectors, that just confirms it.
That, or sociopaths. Either way, they shouldn't be walking around with guns!
complete with the risible excuse to needing it for his own safety ...... while inside a Government building ringed with 25k troops ... just who the fuck is after him ??????

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Holy fuck, there's stupid, then there's Trump style stupid... :lolno: :eek: :wtf ...
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:49 pm The good news is that the GOP is eating itself; & shows signs, it will continue to do so until the orange cunt finally snuffs it.
We're post Trump now, the fascist scum wing of the GOP are off the chain and are shifting the whole party to the extreme right (which in turn causes the centre to shift as the Democrats chase popular vote issues).
So clearly the party as a whole is happy with the several senators and 100+ representatives who voted to overturn the results of the election. Good to know where their priorities lie.
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Kiwias wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:03 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:49 pm The good news is that the GOP is eating itself; & shows signs, it will continue to do so until the orange cunt finally snuffs it.
We're post Trump now, the fascist scum wing of the GOP are off the chain and are shifting the whole party to the extreme right (which in turn causes the centre to shift as the Democrats chase popular vote issues).
So clearly the party as a whole is happy with the several senators and 100+ representatives who voted to overturn the results of the election. Good to know where their priorities lie.
It'll be like that scene in "From Russia with Love"; where two of the fighting fish are knocking the shit out of each other, while the smart one is watching, & waiting .... except for a change the smart one will be the DNC .... and it probably won't last too long.
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I read of Cornyn's threat to impeach Biden if Trump faces any charges and I'm inclined to think that it's an inevitability that Biden is going to be impeached several times after 2022.
Democrats hold narrow majorities in the House of Representatives and Senate but it is common for a president’s party to lose seats in elections two years after a presidential contest. Impeachment begins in the House. The Senate stages any trial.
There are going to be consequences to the undoing of Trump's destruction of climate change policies and addressing the burgeoning debt and I'm pretty sure that they won't be popular, so I don't think that a 'red wave' is all that unlikely and it's probably inevitable that impeachment will now be the weapon of choice against a sitting President.

Rather than "Making America Great Again", Trump has sown the seeds of its decline into dysfunctionality.
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TB63 wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:50 pm

Holy fuck, there's stupid, then there's Trump style stupid... :lolno: :eek: :wtf ...
Yeah, it's worth asking people like that if they accept the Treaty of Paris. The one from 1783 that established them as an independent nation no longer nger part of the British Empire.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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They'd have been rooting for Benedict Arnold.
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Biffer wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:39 am
TB63 wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:50 pm

Holy fuck, there's stupid, then there's Trump style stupid... :lolno: :eek: :wtf ...
Yeah, it's worth asking people like that if they accept the Treaty of Paris. The one from 1783 that established them as an independent nation no longer nger part of the British Empire.
You're assuming their historical knowledge goes that far back.
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Paywalled.

I believe he's suggested that he' will countersue for 3 billion.
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Rinkals wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:36 pm
Paywalled.

I believe he's suggested that he' will countersue for 3 billion.
Did Rudy get his law degree from T***p University ?

It would explain a lot.
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fishfoodie wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:46 pm
Rinkals wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:36 pm
Paywalled.

I believe he's suggested that he' will countersue for 3 billion.
Did Rudy get his law degree from T***p University ?

It would explain a lot.
He apparently believes his right to free speech allows him to defame people and businesses without consequence. Should be an interesting day in court; the judge could throw it out inside half an hour
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Rinkals wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:36 pm
Paywalled.

I believe he's suggested that he' will countersue for 3 billion.
Use brave browser, you can get around their paywall
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