What symptoms of Covid had you worried

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I am sure all of us at some point thought we had it
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Had a chest infection right back in Feb last year, which followed on from a viral cough.
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I have a more or less permanent cold... AKA partially blocked nose most of the year

so when my sense of smell got worse than usual ...

Never lost taste thankfully
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Back before the loss of fast was a reported issue, I cooked a curry on a Friday night that was so hot I couldn't eat it. My wife, who handles heat far less well than me, ate the whole thing and asked why I hadn't put any spice in. Around a month later 2+2 probably equals 5, but no-one knows, and I never became symptomatic at all
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The pneumonia symptom.
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I had a bout of hives and read that rashes were a symptom of Covid - had me worried. But it turned out to be a reaction to some antibiotics I had taken - even though the course had finished several day before.
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The death part
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Uncle fester wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:18 pm The pneumonia symptom.
Thay would be a sign not a symptom tbh
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:14 pmThe death part
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C69 wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:11 am
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:18 pm The pneumonia symptom.
Thay would be a sign not a symptom tbh
There's a difference?
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laurent wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:53 pm I have a more or less permanent cold... AKA partially blocked nose most of the year

so when my sense of smell got worse than usual ...

Never lost taste thankfully
Geez boet, that must be horrible.
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None, as I knew the likely symptoms for myself in advance, and they all came as expected. Temperature, sweating, stomach, headache. Nothing that I haven't had before. And I knew it was coming, because I had been in contact with someone who later told me they developed symptoms.
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handyman wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:59 am
laurent wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:53 pm I have a more or less permanent cold... AKA partially blocked nose most of the year

so when my sense of smell got worse than usual ...

Never lost taste thankfully
Geez boet, that must be horrible.
I have never had full sense of smell so it's not like I miss it ...

But actually not smelling the deodorant when you are using it was weird :lol:
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Gumboot wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:23 am
C69 wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:11 am
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:18 pm The pneumonia symptom.
Thay would be a sign not a symptom tbh
There's a difference?
yes
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C69 wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:01 pm
Gumboot wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:23 am
C69 wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:11 am

Thay would be a sign not a symptom tbh
There's a difference?
yes
What is it? (serious question, I always thought that symptoms were the signs of an illness)
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A symptom is a manifestation of disease apparent to the patient himself, while a sign is a manifestation of disease that the physician perceives. The sign is objective evidence of disease; a symptom, subjective. Symptoms represent the complaints of the patient, and if severe, they drive him to the doctor's office.
From what I read.

If patient observes it = Symptom
If doctor observes it = Sign
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Ymx wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:15 pm

A symptom is a manifestation of disease apparent to the patient himself, while a sign is a manifestation of disease that the physician perceives. The sign is objective evidence of disease; a symptom, subjective. Symptoms represent the complaints of the patient, and if severe, they drive him to the doctor's office.
From what I read.

If patient observes it = Symptom
If doctor observes it = Sign
Didn't think my first post would be about this but there you go. A sign is observable by the doctor/responder but a symptom isn't with the key words being "I feel". So a first responder finds a casualty with a leg bent at an unsual angle and notices that his face is pale and his skin is cold and clammy. These are signs that he has broken his leg and is in shock. He/she asks the casualty how they feel and is told "I feel pain, I feel cold, I feel faint, I feel thirsty." These are symptoms of the same thing.
Hope that makes sense.
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:14 pmThe death part
not a symptom, but usually an outcome
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Nope. Not following your second sentence at all. I thought if the patient felt in a certain way that was indeed a symptom. So if I said “I feel nauseous” are you saying that’s neither a sign or a symptom?
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Jasonstry wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:58 pm
Ymx wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:15 pm

A symptom is a manifestation of disease apparent to the patient himself, while a sign is a manifestation of disease that the physician perceives. The sign is objective evidence of disease; a symptom, subjective. Symptoms represent the complaints of the patient, and if severe, they drive him to the doctor's office.
From what I read.

If patient observes it = Symptom
If doctor observes it = Sign
Didn't think my first post would be about this but there you go. A sign is observable by the doctor/responder but a symptom isn't with the key words being "I feel". So a first responder finds a casualty with a leg bent at an unsual angle and notices that his face is pale and his skin is cold and clammy. These are signs that he has broken his leg and is in shock. He/she asks the casualty how they feel and is told "I feel pain, I feel cold, I feel faint, I feel thirsty." These are symptoms of the same thing.
Hope that makes sense.
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Ymx wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:07 pm Nope. Not following your second sentence at all. I thought if the patient felt in a certain way that was indeed a symptom. So if I said “I feel nauseous” are you saying that’s neither a sign or a symptom?
If you feel nauseous, that is something you feel but that I can't observe so it is a symptom.
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Jasonstry wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:19 pm
Ymx wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:07 pm Nope. Not following your second sentence at all. I thought if the patient felt in a certain way that was indeed a symptom. So if I said “I feel nauseous” are you saying that’s neither a sign or a symptom?
If you feel nauseous, that is something you feel but that I can't observe so it is a symptom.
Ok, so it is a symptom. Though you said

“A sign is observable by the doctor/responder but a symptom isn't with the key words being "I feel".”
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Oh grammar misinterpretation. Probably needs a comma or something after the word isn’t. I’d thought isnt was in regards to the proceeding statement.
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Probably a better way of defining things. A symptom is subjective and depends on the person suffering from it. A sign is objective and can be observed by a third party.

In this context it's a fairly fine line in terms of diagnosis and is routinely ignored by all medical dramas - symptom sounds so much more "medical"
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Having an auto-immune disorder, being paranoid as I have a lot of the symptoms already :shock:
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mat the expat wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:23 pm Having an auto-immune disorder, being paranoid as I have a lot of the symptoms already :shock:
I know how you feel.
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:14 pmThe death part
Yeah, that's the one that would worry me the most as well. But, as this is past tense all I can say is that I still have that to look forward to
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Symptoms: extreme lethargy
Signs: organ failure
Outcome: death by Covid
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Ovals wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:22 am
mat the expat wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:23 pm Having an auto-immune disorder, being paranoid as I have a lot of the symptoms already :shock:
I know how you feel.
I remember reading them when it first came out....
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mat the expat wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:12 am
Ovals wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:22 am
mat the expat wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:23 pm Having an auto-immune disorder, being paranoid as I have a lot of the symptoms already :shock:
I know how you feel.
I remember reading them when it first came out....
Were you thinking: “Pfft. I got this herd immunity thing covered!”
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:46 am
mat the expat wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:12 am
Ovals wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:22 am

I know how you feel.
I remember reading them when it first came out....
Were you thinking: “Pfft. I got this herd immunity thing covered!”
Sadly not, I was running round smelling things as it was the only major symptom I didn't have....
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mat the expat wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:23 pm Having an auto-immune disorder, being paranoid as I have a lot of the symptoms already :shock:
Which one might I ask?
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm
mat the expat wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:23 pm Having an auto-immune disorder, being paranoid as I have a lot of the symptoms already :shock:
Which one might I ask?
For me, it's Chrohns. For the most part it's under control and I've learnt to live with it.
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Ovals wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:57 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm
mat the expat wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:23 pm Having an auto-immune disorder, being paranoid as I have a lot of the symptoms already :shock:
Which one might I ask?
For me, it's Chrohns. For the most part it's under control and I've learnt to live with it.
Diverticular disease for me. Not auto immune. You have my sympathies.
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Reported deaths down quite a bit today - but the drop in new cases does seem to be levelling off a bit. I'd been hoping we'd be well under 10K per day, by this week.

I don't think the data is going to encourage Boris to announce much of a change to the restrictions we're living under.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm
mat the expat wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:23 pm Having an auto-immune disorder, being paranoid as I have a lot of the symptoms already :shock:
Which one might I ask?
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Jasonstry wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:58 pm
Ymx wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:15 pm

A symptom is a manifestation of disease apparent to the patient himself, while a sign is a manifestation of disease that the physician perceives. The sign is objective evidence of disease; a symptom, subjective. Symptoms represent the complaints of the patient, and if severe, they drive him to the doctor's office.
From what I read.

If patient observes it = Symptom
If doctor observes it = Sign
Didn't think my first post would be about this but there you go. A sign is observable by the doctor/responder but a symptom isn't with the key words being "I feel". So a first responder finds a casualty with a leg bent at an unsual angle and notices that his face is pale and his skin is cold and clammy. These are signs that he has broken his leg and is in shock. He/she asks the casualty how they feel and is told "I feel pain, I feel cold, I feel faint, I feel thirsty." These are symptoms of the same thing.
Hope that makes sense.
Thank you :thumbup:
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