To be honest the second string was nearly good enough to beat England so this would be competitive however it shows French management up.Tichtheid wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:46 am France have called five replacements in to the squad to replace the covidees
All that is missing from the statement is the "Bof" and the shrug.Gaëtan BARLOT (0 sélection, Castres Olympique), Thierry PAIVA (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Cyril CAZEAUX (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Baptiste PESENTI (2 sélections, Section Paloise) et Thomas RAMOS (14 sélections, Stade Toulousain) sont sélectionnés pour rejoindre le groupe France ce lundi 22 février.
Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
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This looks like a clusterf**k by the FFR (no surprise there).
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/sevens/2 ... tory.shtml
The way this reads is the COVID originated in the 7s squad who were not meant to be mixing with the full senior side anyway. You couldn't make this sh*t up.
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/sevens/2 ... tory.shtml
The way this reads is the COVID originated in the 7s squad who were not meant to be mixing with the full senior side anyway. You couldn't make this sh*t up.

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So the plan is to get the new guys infected as well?Tichtheid wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:46 am France have called five replacements in to the squad to replace the covidees
All that is missing from the statement is the "Bof" and the shrug.Gaëtan BARLOT (0 sélection, Castres Olympique), Thierry PAIVA (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Cyril CAZEAUX (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Baptiste PESENTI (2 sélections, Section Paloise) et Thomas RAMOS (14 sélections, Stade Toulousain) sont sélectionnés pour rejoindre le groupe France ce lundi 22 février.
pretty much (They are supposed to be in isolation)Uncle fester wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:22 pmSo the plan is to get the new guys infected as well?Tichtheid wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:46 am France have called five replacements in to the squad to replace the covidees
All that is missing from the statement is the "Bof" and the shrug.Gaëtan BARLOT (0 sélection, Castres Olympique), Thierry PAIVA (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Cyril CAZEAUX (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Baptiste PESENTI (2 sélections, Section Paloise) et Thomas RAMOS (14 sélections, Stade Toulousain) sont sélectionnés pour rejoindre le groupe France ce lundi 22 février.
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See above ^^^^^laurent wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:28 pmpretty much (They are supposed to be in isolation)Uncle fester wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:22 pmSo the plan is to get the new guys infected as well?Tichtheid wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:46 am France have called five replacements in to the squad to replace the covidees
All that is missing from the statement is the "Bof" and the shrug.
****ing clueless.
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“Following the RT-PCR tests carried out last night, all the players and management tested negative for Covid-19.”
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“Following the RT-PCR tests carried out last night, all the players and management tested negative for Covid-19.”
Good news
So I squares up, casual like.
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Agree. This was self inflicted and I'm guessing a breach of the protocols on mixing. Anyway, the Sweaties (rightly) have refused a pp.clive wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:47 pm The game will be postponed until next week, not that I agree with it, France have been very poor with covid protocols, and Should play this week.
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Bringing in the 7s squad????
You couldn't make up the level of incompetence from some people. WTF was France management thinking.
You couldn't make up the level of incompetence from some people. WTF was France management thinking.
I think the SRU would have been ok with a postponement if it wasn't for the players we rely on who play elsewhere, particularly Hogg.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:52 amAgree. This was self inflicted and I'm guessing a breach of the protocols on mixing. Anyway, the Sweaties (rightly) have refused a pp.clive wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:47 pm The game will be postponed until next week, not that I agree with it, France have been very poor with covid protocols, and Should play this week.
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I think the error here is to mention "France" and "management" in the same line.Lemoentjie wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:53 am Bringing in the 7s squad????
You couldn't make up the level of incompetence from some people. WTF was France management thinking.

This. I’m sure we’d all prefer to play a full strength France, but it’s clearly unreasonable to expect Scotland to play without our best players so that France can field theirs.Big D wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:07 amI think the SRU would have been ok with a postponement if it wasn't for the players we rely on who play elsewhere, particularly Hogg.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:52 amAgree. This was self inflicted and I'm guessing a breach of the protocols on mixing. Anyway, the Sweaties (rightly) have refused a pp.clive wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:47 pm The game will be postponed until next week, not that I agree with it, France have been very poor with covid protocols, and Should play this week.
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A quick headcount tells me there are 12 in the current squad who could be recalled to play for their clubs, the definite starters would be Hogg and Gray, but if Hoggy goes then Maitland would be his immediate deputy but he would be subject to recall. If we play Graham at full back without those two we'd be short of wingers. Land and Taylor could be called back and that leaves us short in the centres.Big D wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:07 amI think the SRU would have been ok with a postponement if it wasn't for the players we rely on who play elsewhere, particularly Hogg.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:52 amAgree. This was self inflicted and I'm guessing a breach of the protocols on mixing. Anyway, the Sweaties (rightly) have refused a pp.clive wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:47 pm The game will be postponed until next week, not that I agree with it, France have been very poor with covid protocols, and Should play this week.
It's a similar mess up front though possibly not quite as bad, Ritchie Gray would come in for his brother, Gilchrist on the bench but he is struggling for form. Bayliss, du Preez, Craig could go, Bhatti going would leave us without last minute injury cover at loosehead
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This is entirely on France. Covid bubbles are not new and they ought to know how to stop the spread.
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For info the 7's squad was a separate bubble (they were supposed to play in spain last week end).
The leaks point to one of the fitness coaches not the 7's (they just tested positive earlier maybe)
All in all the real stupidity was moving around in alpes maritmes (one of the Covid Hotspots in France) when Marcoussis was a lot safer.
The French 7 ladies went to spain without a glitch out of marcoussis the 15's ladies also were doing a camp in Marcoussis with 0 cases.
Laporte was likely spending FFR Money at one of his mates in the south.
good news in no new cases today
The leaks point to one of the fitness coaches not the 7's (they just tested positive earlier maybe)
All in all the real stupidity was moving around in alpes maritmes (one of the Covid Hotspots in France) when Marcoussis was a lot safer.
The French 7 ladies went to spain without a glitch out of marcoussis the 15's ladies also were doing a camp in Marcoussis with 0 cases.
Laporte was likely spending FFR Money at one of his mates in the south.
good news in no new cases today
What a shambles... Tough on the Scots too. Through no fault of their own, they face two shit options: keep the momentum and play a weakened French team, potentially putting their entire squad at risk, or play it safe and compromise their best start to a 6N in a good while with a GS still to play for.
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Not sure how it puts their squad at any more risk than would have been otherwise. Any players they face will have to have passed exactly the same tests as before.TNT wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm What a shambles... Tough on the Scots too. Through no fault of their own, they face two shit options: keep the momentum and play a weakened French team, potentially putting their entire squad at risk, or play it safe and compromise their best start to a 6N in a good while with a GS still to play for.
Did you miss the loss to Wales or is this trolling?TNT wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm What a shambles... Tough on the Scots too. Through no fault of their own, they face two shit options: keep the momentum and play a weakened French team, potentially putting their entire squad at risk, or play it safe and compromise their best start to a 6N in a good while with a GS still to play for.
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As if the Scots fans don't have a big enough victim complex already, this will eclipse this year's Lions selections.
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So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
I'm still expecting a pumping. It's just easier this way.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 am https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml
So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
So I squares up, casual like.
Why? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 am https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml
So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
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F**ked. Not only is Snail Serin starting, looks like he will be captain so, barring injury, is not coming off either.Big D wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 amWhy? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 am https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml
So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....

Looking like
15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Thomas ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Serin ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Alldritt, 6. Cretin ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Bamba, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar.
And TBH, that's not too shabby bar Serin. Danty has been on better form than Vincent anyway: assuming he can avoid being carded for a change.
Bouthier is a different player to Dulin but I'm okay with that. Dupont is going to be the self-inflicted killer.
Err yeah, got confused big time sorrycharltom wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:47 pmDid you miss the loss to Wales or is this trolling?TNT wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm What a shambles... Tough on the Scots too. Through no fault of their own, they face two shit options: keep the momentum and play a weakened French team, potentially putting their entire squad at risk, or play it safe and compromise their best start to a 6N in a good while with a GS still to play for.

Anyhow, game is confirmed, we'll find out soon how deep that French squad is (if they manage to stay clear from the plague until then).
That looks an OK side to be honest, i can see them getting the win.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:08 pmF**ked. Not only is Snail Serin starting, looks like he will be captain so, barring injury, is not coming off either.Big D wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 amWhy? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 am https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml
So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
Looking like
15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Thomas ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Serin ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Alldritt, 6. Cretin ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Bamba, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar.
And TBH, that's not too shabby bar Serin. Danty has been on better form than Vincent anyway: assuming he can avoid being carded for a change.
Bouthier is a different player to Dulin but I'm okay with that. Dupont is going to be the self-inflicted killer.
Yes, not quite the decimation we were hoping for...ASMO wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:44 pmThat looks an OK side to be honest, i can see them getting the win.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:08 pmF**ked. Not only is Snail Serin starting, looks like he will be captain so, barring injury, is not coming off either.Big D wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 am
Why? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.
Looking like
15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Thomas ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Serin ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Alldritt, 6. Cretin ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Bamba, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar.
And TBH, that's not too shabby bar Serin. Danty has been on better form than Vincent anyway: assuming he can avoid being carded for a change.
Bouthier is a different player to Dulin but I'm okay with that. Dupont is going to be the self-inflicted killer.
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Poor France. Lost ten players from their player base of three million registered players and their twenty something full time professional clubs. Here in Scotland with our two pro clubs from a player base 40,000 we are weeping for your misfortune.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:08 pmF**ked. Not only is Snail Serin starting, looks like he will be captain so, barring injury, is not coming off either.Big D wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 amWhy? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 am https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml
So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
Looking like
15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Thomas ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Serin ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Alldritt, 6. Cretin ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Bamba, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar.
And TBH, that's not too shabby bar Serin. Danty has been on better form than Vincent anyway: assuming he can avoid being carded for a change.
Bouthier is a different player to Dulin but I'm okay with that. Dupont is going to be the self-inflicted killer.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Well let us try and make you cry anywayBiffer wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:39 pmPoor France. Lost ten players from their player base of three million registered players and their twenty something full time professional clubs. Here in Scotland with our two pro clubs from a player base 40,000 we are weeping for your misfortune.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:08 pmF**ked. Not only is Snail Serin starting, looks like he will be captain so, barring injury, is not coming off either.Big D wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 am
Why? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.
Looking like
15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Thomas ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Serin ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Alldritt, 6. Cretin ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Bamba, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar.
And TBH, that's not too shabby bar Serin. Danty has been on better form than Vincent anyway: assuming he can avoid being carded for a change.
Bouthier is a different player to Dulin but I'm okay with that. Dupont is going to be the self-inflicted killer.

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Agree with all that bar the "managed" bit.laurent wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:31 am FFR is Managed by cunts and a crook. So not much sympathy from me (just pissed off) PS surprised the French Sport minister has not even piped up.

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Yep, and training suspended. Very surprised they haven't called it yet.
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That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 amThat'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?
So I squares up, casual like.
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No forfeit, please. The last thing I want after that major fuck up against Wales is to win a game 28-0 without playing it.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 amThat'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
Find a weekend where the French have recovered from their lack of discipline and Scotland have everyone available, play it then.
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 amTorquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 amThat'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?
It's new for me too, but France have enough time to get the squad fit and clear for the trip to London on the 13th.
Award the match points to Scotland and move on.
The problem is that we would still lose players due to player release and wouldn't have everyone available unless it is in an international windowclydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:11 amNo forfeit, please. The last thing I want after that major fuck up against Wales is to win a game 28-0 without playing it.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 amThat'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
Find a weekend where the French have recovered from their lack of discipline and Scotland have everyone available, play it then.
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No. Play the game. With someone, somewhere. In summertime, if needed.Tichtheid wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:12 amBegbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 amTorquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?
It's new for me too, but France have enough time to get the squad fit and clear for the trip to London on the 13th.
Award the match points to Scotland and move on.
Suppose this is awarded as 28-0, Scotland beat Ireland and Italy and end up winning their first 6N. How embarrassing would it be to lift that trophy?
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:21 amNo. Play the game. With someone, somewhere. In summertime, if needed.Tichtheid wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:12 amBegbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 am [/b]
I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?
It's new for me too, but France have enough time to get the squad fit and clear for the trip to London on the 13th.
Award the match points to Scotland and move on.
Suppose this is awarded as 28-0, Scotland beat Ireland and Italy and end up winning their first 6N. How embarrassing would it be to lift that trophy?
It wouldn't be the same as winning it proper, but there is huge congestion in fixtures as it is, there is only one weekend available as far as I can see and that is next week, where the player release problem arises.
Get this bastard covid season done and let's get back to normal come September, with crowds.
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It'll be the usual mixBegbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 amTorquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 amThat'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?
- some will be in conspiratorial mode
- some will blame the FFR or the management. Plenty in the press rumour mill that it was Galthie himself who breached the protocols and hence was probably responsible for the spread
The downside is everyone from the public, to TV, the tournament organisers and sponsors are cheated because of one or two people's f**k up.