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Tichtheid wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:46 am France have called five replacements in to the squad to replace the covidees
Gaëtan BARLOT (0 sélection, Castres Olympique), Thierry PAIVA (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Cyril CAZEAUX (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Baptiste PESENTI (2 sélections, Section Paloise) et Thomas RAMOS (14 sélections, Stade Toulousain) sont sélectionnés pour rejoindre le groupe France ce lundi 22 février.
All that is missing from the statement is the "Bof" and the shrug.
To be honest the second string was nearly good enough to beat England so this would be competitive however it shows French management up.
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This looks like a clusterf**k by the FFR (no surprise there).

https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/sevens/2 ... tory.shtml

The way this reads is the COVID originated in the 7s squad who were not meant to be mixing with the full senior side anyway. You couldn't make this sh*t up. :evil:
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Tichtheid wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:46 am France have called five replacements in to the squad to replace the covidees
Gaëtan BARLOT (0 sélection, Castres Olympique), Thierry PAIVA (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Cyril CAZEAUX (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Baptiste PESENTI (2 sélections, Section Paloise) et Thomas RAMOS (14 sélections, Stade Toulousain) sont sélectionnés pour rejoindre le groupe France ce lundi 22 février.
All that is missing from the statement is the "Bof" and the shrug.
So the plan is to get the new guys infected as well?
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Uncle fester wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:22 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:46 am France have called five replacements in to the squad to replace the covidees
Gaëtan BARLOT (0 sélection, Castres Olympique), Thierry PAIVA (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Cyril CAZEAUX (0 sélection, Union Bordeaux Bègles), Baptiste PESENTI (2 sélections, Section Paloise) et Thomas RAMOS (14 sélections, Stade Toulousain) sont sélectionnés pour rejoindre le groupe France ce lundi 22 février.
All that is missing from the statement is the "Bof" and the shrug.
So the plan is to get the new guys infected as well?
pretty much (They are supposed to be in isolation)
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laurent wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:28 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:22 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:46 am France have called five replacements in to the squad to replace the covidees



All that is missing from the statement is the "Bof" and the shrug.
So the plan is to get the new guys infected as well?
pretty much (They are supposed to be in isolation)
See above ^^^^^

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The game will be postponed until next week, not that I agree with it, France have been very poor with covid protocols, and Should play this week.
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Good news
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clive wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:47 pm The game will be postponed until next week, not that I agree with it, France have been very poor with covid protocols, and Should play this week.
Agree. This was self inflicted and I'm guessing a breach of the protocols on mixing. Anyway, the Sweaties (rightly) have refused a pp.
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Bringing in the 7s squad????

You couldn't make up the level of incompetence from some people. WTF was France management thinking.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:52 am
clive wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:47 pm The game will be postponed until next week, not that I agree with it, France have been very poor with covid protocols, and Should play this week.
Agree. This was self inflicted and I'm guessing a breach of the protocols on mixing. Anyway, the Sweaties (rightly) have refused a pp.
I think the SRU would have been ok with a postponement if it wasn't for the players we rely on who play elsewhere, particularly Hogg.
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Lemoentjie wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:53 am Bringing in the 7s squad????

You couldn't make up the level of incompetence from some people. WTF was France management thinking.
I think the error here is to mention "France" and "management" in the same line. :problem:
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:52 am
clive wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:47 pm The game will be postponed until next week, not that I agree with it, France have been very poor with covid protocols, and Should play this week.
Agree. This was self inflicted and I'm guessing a breach of the protocols on mixing. Anyway, the Sweaties (rightly) have refused a pp.
I think the SRU would have been ok with a postponement if it wasn't for the players we rely on who play elsewhere, particularly Hogg.
This. I’m sure we’d all prefer to play a full strength France, but it’s clearly unreasonable to expect Scotland to play without our best players so that France can field theirs.
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Big D wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:07 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:52 am
clive wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:47 pm The game will be postponed until next week, not that I agree with it, France have been very poor with covid protocols, and Should play this week.
Agree. This was self inflicted and I'm guessing a breach of the protocols on mixing. Anyway, the Sweaties (rightly) have refused a pp.
I think the SRU would have been ok with a postponement if it wasn't for the players we rely on who play elsewhere, particularly Hogg.
A quick headcount tells me there are 12 in the current squad who could be recalled to play for their clubs, the definite starters would be Hogg and Gray, but if Hoggy goes then Maitland would be his immediate deputy but he would be subject to recall. If we play Graham at full back without those two we'd be short of wingers. Land and Taylor could be called back and that leaves us short in the centres.

It's a similar mess up front though possibly not quite as bad, Ritchie Gray would come in for his brother, Gilchrist on the bench but he is struggling for form. Bayliss, du Preez, Craig could go, Bhatti going would leave us without last minute injury cover at loosehead
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This is entirely on France. Covid bubbles are not new and they ought to know how to stop the spread.
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For info the 7's squad was a separate bubble (they were supposed to play in spain last week end).

The leaks point to one of the fitness coaches not the 7's (they just tested positive earlier maybe)

All in all the real stupidity was moving around in alpes maritmes (one of the Covid Hotspots in France) when Marcoussis was a lot safer.

The French 7 ladies went to spain without a glitch out of marcoussis the 15's ladies also were doing a camp in Marcoussis with 0 cases.

Laporte was likely spending FFR Money at one of his mates in the south.

good news in no new cases today
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What a shambles... Tough on the Scots too. Through no fault of their own, they face two shit options: keep the momentum and play a weakened French team, potentially putting their entire squad at risk, or play it safe and compromise their best start to a 6N in a good while with a GS still to play for.
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TNT wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm What a shambles... Tough on the Scots too. Through no fault of their own, they face two shit options: keep the momentum and play a weakened French team, potentially putting their entire squad at risk, or play it safe and compromise their best start to a 6N in a good while with a GS still to play for.
Not sure how it puts their squad at any more risk than would have been otherwise. Any players they face will have to have passed exactly the same tests as before.
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TNT wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm What a shambles... Tough on the Scots too. Through no fault of their own, they face two shit options: keep the momentum and play a weakened French team, potentially putting their entire squad at risk, or play it safe and compromise their best start to a 6N in a good while with a GS still to play for.
Did you miss the loss to Wales or is this trolling?
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Voilà ...
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As if the Scots fans don't have a big enough victim complex already, this will eclipse this year's Lions selections.
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https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml

So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 am https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml

So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
I'm still expecting a pumping. It's just easier this way.
So I squares up, casual like.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 am https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml

So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
Why? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.
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Big D wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 am https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml

So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
Why? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.
F**ked. Not only is Snail Serin starting, looks like he will be captain so, barring injury, is not coming off either. :sick:

Looking like
15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Thomas ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Serin ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Alldritt, 6. Cretin ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Bamba, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar.

And TBH, that's not too shabby bar Serin. Danty has been on better form than Vincent anyway: assuming he can avoid being carded for a change.

Bouthier is a different player to Dulin but I'm okay with that. Dupont is going to be the self-inflicted killer.
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charltom wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:47 pm
TNT wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm What a shambles... Tough on the Scots too. Through no fault of their own, they face two shit options: keep the momentum and play a weakened French team, potentially putting their entire squad at risk, or play it safe and compromise their best start to a 6N in a good while with a GS still to play for.
Did you miss the loss to Wales or is this trolling?
Err yeah, got confused big time sorry :???: , but imho the scots still have a very decent shot at the title. Obviously they can get bust the french slam at the weekend, and after that the Welsh are thin on points difference and look likely to lose a game.

Anyhow, game is confirmed, we'll find out soon how deep that French squad is (if they manage to stay clear from the plague until then).
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:08 pm
Big D wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 am https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml

So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
Why? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.
F**ked. Not only is Snail Serin starting, looks like he will be captain so, barring injury, is not coming off either. :sick:

Looking like
15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Thomas ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Serin ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Alldritt, 6. Cretin ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Bamba, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar.

And TBH, that's not too shabby bar Serin. Danty has been on better form than Vincent anyway: assuming he can avoid being carded for a change.

Bouthier is a different player to Dulin but I'm okay with that. Dupont is going to be the self-inflicted killer.
That looks an OK side to be honest, i can see them getting the win.
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ASMO wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:44 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:08 pm
Big D wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 am

Why? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.
F**ked. Not only is Snail Serin starting, looks like he will be captain so, barring injury, is not coming off either. :sick:

Looking like
15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Thomas ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Serin ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Alldritt, 6. Cretin ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Bamba, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar.

And TBH, that's not too shabby bar Serin. Danty has been on better form than Vincent anyway: assuming he can avoid being carded for a change.

Bouthier is a different player to Dulin but I'm okay with that. Dupont is going to be the self-inflicted killer.
That looks an OK side to be honest, i can see them getting the win.
Yes, not quite the decimation we were hoping for...
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:08 pm
Big D wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 am https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml

So, game goes ahead unless any more cases detected in the France camp. Cynic in me says if I were Galthie now, I'd be looking to get as many more positive tests as I could manufacture....
Why? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.
F**ked. Not only is Snail Serin starting, looks like he will be captain so, barring injury, is not coming off either. :sick:

Looking like
15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Thomas ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Serin ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Alldritt, 6. Cretin ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Bamba, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar.

And TBH, that's not too shabby bar Serin. Danty has been on better form than Vincent anyway: assuming he can avoid being carded for a change.

Bouthier is a different player to Dulin but I'm okay with that. Dupont is going to be the self-inflicted killer.
Poor France. Lost ten players from their player base of three million registered players and their twenty something full time professional clubs. Here in Scotland with our two pro clubs from a player base 40,000 we are weeping for your misfortune.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:39 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:08 pm
Big D wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 am

Why? When your B/C/D team romp to victory it will be a triumph.
F**ked. Not only is Snail Serin starting, looks like he will be captain so, barring injury, is not coming off either. :sick:

Looking like
15. Bouthier ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Thomas ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Serin ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Alldritt, 6. Cretin ; 5. Willemse, 4. Le Roux ; 3. Bamba, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar.

And TBH, that's not too shabby bar Serin. Danty has been on better form than Vincent anyway: assuming he can avoid being carded for a change.

Bouthier is a different player to Dulin but I'm okay with that. Dupont is going to be the self-inflicted killer.
Poor France. Lost ten players from their player base of three million registered players and their twenty something full time professional clubs. Here in Scotland with our two pro clubs from a player base 40,000 we are weeping for your misfortune.
Well let us try and make you cry anyway :razz:
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Another positive result this morning :sad:
So I squares up, casual like.
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laurent wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:31 am FFR is Managed by cunts and a crook. So not much sympathy from me (just pissed off) PS surprised the French Sport minister has not even piped up.
Agree with all that bar the "managed" bit. :eh:
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Yep, and training suspended. Very surprised they haven't called it yet.
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Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.


I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?
So I squares up, casual like.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
No forfeit, please. The last thing I want after that major fuck up against Wales is to win a game 28-0 without playing it.

Find a weekend where the French have recovered from their lack of discipline and Scotland have everyone available, play it then.
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Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.


I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?

It's new for me too, but France have enough time to get the squad fit and clear for the trip to London on the 13th.
Award the match points to Scotland and move on.
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clydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:11 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.
No forfeit, please. The last thing I want after that major fuck up against Wales is to win a game 28-0 without playing it.

Find a weekend where the French have recovered from their lack of discipline and Scotland have everyone available, play it then.
The problem is that we would still lose players due to player release and wouldn't have everyone available unless it is in an international window
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:12 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am

That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.


I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?

It's new for me too, but France have enough time to get the squad fit and clear for the trip to London on the 13th.
Award the match points to Scotland and move on.
No. Play the game. With someone, somewhere. In summertime, if needed.

Suppose this is awarded as 28-0, Scotland beat Ireland and Italy and end up winning their first 6N. How embarrassing would it be to lift that trophy?
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clydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:21 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:12 am
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I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?

It's new for me too, but France have enough time to get the squad fit and clear for the trip to London on the 13th.
Award the match points to Scotland and move on.
No. Play the game. With someone, somewhere. In summertime, if needed.

Suppose this is awarded as 28-0, Scotland beat Ireland and Italy and end up winning their first 6N. How embarrassing would it be to lift that trophy?

It wouldn't be the same as winning it proper, but there is huge congestion in fixtures as it is, there is only one weekend available as far as I can see and that is next week, where the player release problem arises.

Get this bastard covid season done and let's get back to normal come September, with crowds.
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Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:09 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 am
Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am Another positive result this morning :sad:
That'll be cancellation then. France should forfeit if that happens.


I'm starting to get on board with that. How do you think most French fans would feel about that? Hard done by? Or would the anger be directed at FFR?
It'll be the usual mix
- some will be in conspiratorial mode
- some will blame the FFR or the management. Plenty in the press rumour mill that it was Galthie himself who breached the protocols and hence was probably responsible for the spread

The downside is everyone from the public, to TV, the tournament organisers and sponsors are cheated because of one or two people's f**k up.
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