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God we’re dumb sometimes. It’s normally the Scots that are quicker thinking now it’s Wales as well
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:05 pm Shut up, Farrell, you got played.
I really don't want to stick up for him but he had a point.
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Jock42 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:08 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:05 pm Shut up, Farrell, you got played.
I really don't want to stick up for him but he had a point.
I don't think he does. His team could have been set for a penalty.
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Big D wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:09 pm
Jock42 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:08 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:05 pm Shut up, Farrell, you got played.
I really don't want to stick up for him but he had a point.
I don't think he does. His team could have been set for a penalty.
Nah, not when the ref has told you to talk to your team. You've got to give them a chance to do so.
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Big D wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:09 pm
Jock42 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:08 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:05 pm Shut up, Farrell, you got played.
I really don't want to stick up for him but he had a point.
I don't think he does. His team could have been set for a penalty.
I agree, if you choose to bring on a massive entourage of water boys, coaches, subs, then deal with it
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Farrell needs to be careful with how he talks to referees. I know they will deny it, but I'm certain that different captains get reputations in referee's circles - and then the odd good point he makes will be dismissed without really being listened to as "just him crying again". It's not just what he's saying, but how he's going about saying it
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How can England hope to win matches with their penalty count. It’s not just a one off, it’s becoming policy.
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Slick wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:03 pm Itoje is a very good player but the endless fawning over him does seem to cover some serious issues.

13 minutes, 3 penalties a knock on and a charge down
And again. I wholeheartedly agree, he adds a lot to the team, but I'm increasingly of a mind that it doesn't outweigh the territory and possession his penalties cost us.
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WTF this ref and TMO are insane!!!!!!!
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Oh FFS :lol:
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FFS joke shop decision.
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This is utterly, utterly disgraceful
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Holy shit. Can someone show me in the law book how that's not a knock on?
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BCM doing his best not to start shouting :lol:
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Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:20 pm Holy shit. Can someone show me in the law book how that's not a knock on?
it went backwards off his leg.
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Holy fuck
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England are getting quite fucked here by the ref, I must say
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Nigel is surprised.
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Holy Fuck!..😂
I love watching little children running and screaming, playing hide and seek in the playground.
They don't know I'm using blanks..
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Wales have 1 player more than the oppo yet again.
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This ref had got a few quid on Wales at 10/1.

Utterly ridiculous.
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All I can say is :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You see, when you have a gobbie sh*te like Farrell p*ssing off the ref, you risk the marginals going against you.
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Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:21 pm
Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:20 pm Holy shit. Can someone show me in the law book how that's not a knock on?
it went backwards off his leg.
Shush
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:lol:

That's absolutely jokeshop.

Game over now, England simply do not overhaul leads, let alone ones in double figures.
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Sandstorm wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:20 pm BCM doing his best not to start shouting :lol:
<Sings circus theme tune>
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Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:21 pm
Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:20 pm Holy shit. Can someone show me in the law book how that's not a knock on?
it went backwards off his leg.

As soon as he lost control off his hands forwards it's a knock on unless he somehow regathers?
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Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:21 pm
Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:20 pm Holy shit. Can someone show me in the law book how that's not a knock on?
it went backwards off his leg.
Once you lose control of ball forward, you have to regain control of it don’t you?
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Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:22 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:21 pm
Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:20 pm Holy shit. Can someone show me in the law book how that's not a knock on?
it went backwards off his leg.

As soon as he lost control off his hands forwards it's a knock on unless he somehow regathers?
That's been my understanding and how I can recall seeing it reffed since forever.
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Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:22 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:21 pm
Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:20 pm Holy shit. Can someone show me in the law book how that's not a knock on?
it went backwards off his leg.

As soon as he lost control off his hands forwards it's a knock on unless he somehow regathers?
Yep, that's how I understand it. Certainly how the law seems to be applied usually.

Going to be one of those days
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Young’s best pass in 500 mins of Test Rugby.
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Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:22 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:21 pm
Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:20 pm Holy shit. Can someone show me in the law book how that's not a knock on?
it went backwards off his leg.
As soon as he lost control off his hands forwards it's a knock on unless he somehow regathers?
Nope, it has to touch another player or the ground.
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Watson is definitely back and that's a good thing.
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Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:22 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:21 pm
Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:20 pm Holy shit. Can someone show me in the law book how that's not a knock on?
it went backwards off his leg.

As soon as he lost control off his hands forwards it's a knock on unless he somehow regathers?
Yes.
A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.
Makes a change for the knock on decisions to go against Eng.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:27 pm Watson is definitely back and that's a good thing.
Yeah, he might get another pass one day.
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Weak defence there by Wales.
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Fcin Youngs
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Welsh kicking around the breakdown is abject.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:27 pm
Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:22 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:21 pm

it went backwards off his leg.

As soon as he lost control off his hands forwards it's a knock on unless he somehow regathers?
Yes.
A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.
Makes a change for the knock on decisions to go against Eng.
Ambiguous. It doesn't appear to cover it going backwards off another part of the body. I know that referees will call a knock on if you lose control but somehow manage to hack it forward thou as it wasn't a deliberate kick
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Sandstorm wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:21 pm Wales have 1 player more than the oppo yet again.
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Ymx wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:22 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:21 pm
Saint wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:20 pm Holy shit. Can someone show me in the law book how that's not a knock on?
it went backwards off his leg.
Once you lose control of ball forward, you have to regain control of it don’t you?
I don’t know the answer but have they treated it as a normal kick? You throw it forward, never have control then kick it
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